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There will be no "Blue Wave", change my mind!


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2018 May 14, 8:51am   80,300 views  699 comments

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Yesterday former Bill Clinton advisor Dick Morris told radio host on New York's AM 970 that he believes the "blue wave" that Democrats are expecting to give them back the Senate and House will not materialize, and polling has backed him up.

Last week, CNN's mid term poll showed that Democrats only had a 3 point advantage, well within the margin of error, and considering that CNN is known for "oversampling" Democrats in its own polls, this is troubling for the DNC.

Additionally, a recent poll from Reuters (left leaning) has shown that Millennials are leaving the Democrat party in droves. Democrat membership in the 18-34 demographic (the bread and butter of the DNC) dropped 9% over the past 2 years, most of them becoming "independents".

"I think that [Democrats] see fool’s gold in these scandals," Morris said. "They’re putting everything behind the Stormy Daniels scandal and Michael Cohen … and the country doesn’t give a damn."

That's when Morris dropped his prediction.

"There is no blue wave coming," Morris exclaimed. "There is a red wave. And what makes it red is the blood of the Democratic Party."

Here's my official take. I believe the GOP will LOSE seats in the house but will not give it up to the DNC. I believe the GOP will GAIN seats in the senate, keeping their majority. This will mean that Trump will have both houses of congress for his entire term.

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30   edvard   2018 May 14, 11:46am  

"And the Democrat party is so far left now, it is barely recognizable. They are a cobbled together coalition of gays, trannies, SJW'rs, illegal aliens, criminals, poor, unions.........all funded by uber rich Leftists."

That comment right there is precisely why the GOP is likely doomed. Rampant xenophobia has overtaken the party and if there's one thing assured: That kind of xenophobia is becoming increasingly more unpopular with more and more Americans as shown by the widening levels of support for gay marriage, civil rights, unions and so on. That you say that is laughable. Jesus christ...

"Right has gotten more extreme? No, they just got a voice thanks to the internet and talk radio."
Its more that they have gotten more paranoid and scared. That and a huge number of them like to believe in the dumbest horse shit. I forget the number but something like 20% of the US populace literally believes that commercial jet planes intentionally spew toxic chemicals placed in the fuel by the gubbermint. Yes- and these folks also overwhelmingly vote Republican. They have become the party of the stupid and economically repressed.
31   socal2   2018 May 14, 12:00pm  

edvard says
That comment right there is precisely why the GOP is likely doomed. Rampant xenophobia has overtaken the party and if there's one thing assured: That kind of xenophobia is becoming increasingly more unpopular with more and more Americans as shown by the widening levels of support for gay marriage, civil rights, unions and so on. That you say that is laughable. Jesus christ...


Right - cause that is what the American people want. MOAR harpy social justice warrior screeching from the Democrat party. Didn't Obama and the SJW crowd lose over 1,000 elected seats under Obama's watch? Didn't the Republicans get their biggest majorities in nearly 100 years under Obama's watch?

I wouldn't mistake America's acceptance of gay marriage to the other extreme where they are cool with Christian photographers and cake bakers being sued and losing their businesses because they don't want to participate in hay weddings. Let alone the scientific ignorance being pushed by Democrats that gender is fluid.

With the exception of crazy California, the Democrats have been wiped out from top to bottom since the Democrat party went full SJW retard.

Never go full SJW retard.
32   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 12:06pm  

edvard says
That comment right there is precisely why the GOP is likely doomed.


Have you not been paying attention the past 8 years? The Democrats used to own 1,000 more elected seats than they do today. If the GOP was dead, then Obama revived the party and killed his own party.
33   edvard   2018 May 14, 12:26pm  

"Right - cause that is what the American people want. MOAR harpy social justice warrior screeching from the Democrat party. Didn't Obama and the SJW crowd lose over 1,000 elected seats under Obama's watch? Didn't the Republicans get their biggest majorities in nearly 100 years under Obama's watch?
I wouldn't mistake America's acceptance of gay marriage to the other extreme where they are cool with Christian photographers and cake bakers being sued and losing their businesses because they don't want to participate in hay weddings. Let alone the scientific ignorance being pushed by Democrats that gender is fluid.
With the exception of crazy California, the Democrats have been wiped out from top to bottom since the Democrat party went full SJW retard. "

Ahhh so much bullshit in yet another useless rant.

You guys do realize that ever since the election that the GOP has been losing elections like mad, even in some very red states, right? You do also realize that even in some of the most cherry-red parts of the country where the GOP didn't even worry about are now becoming hotly contested where they've never been before? Either way you slice it this is unprecedented and shows just how unpopular Trump really is.

"I wouldn't mistake America's acceptance of gay marriage to the other extreme where they are cool with Christian photographers and cake bakers being sued and losing their businesses because they don't want to participate in hay weddings. Let alone the scientific ignorance being pushed by Democrats that gender is fluid."

Hooray for you for drawing a conclusion on two very unrelated things.

"With the exception of crazy California, the Democrats have been wiped out from top to bottom since the Democrat party went full SJW retard. "

Nope. Like I said, things haven't been going well for the poor ole' GOP since the election and we are indeed likely looking at a severe reversal come November. But hey- be my guest- think otherwise. Makes it so much easier for the rest of us to go to the polls and do our jobs.

"Have you not been paying attention the past 8 years? The Democrats used to own 1,000 more elected seats than they do today. If the GOP was dead, then Obama revived the party and killed his own party."

You are being shortsighted. Perhaps I should've been more clear. So we all know about the baby boomers and how their sheer numbers affected the general direction of the country in terms of culture, business and politics? Well guess what... the millennial and post millennial generations are by far the largest demographic the country has ever seen and furthermore, about 90% of them identify as being leftist, and actually even more leftist than me. They are all coming of voting age and will be the overwhelming demographic calling the shots.

So far the GOP has ignored this and continued right along with Nixon's southern strategy. They resemble the Democratic party of the 1960's where the New Deal had outlived its usefulness. The GOP has been using that same strategy for almost 45 years. It has outlived its usefulness and is wildly unpopular with the aforementioned millennial/post millennial generations.

The net-net? The GOP, if they do not change, stand to experience outstanding, staggering losses. Maybe not at these midterms, but within the next few years. If history repeats itself we can expect an overall shift of the country back towards a populist leftist movement akin to the new deal and retain that for perhaps decades to come. Its happened before and will likely happen again.
34   lostand confused   2018 May 14, 12:34pm  

There are some stupid states like IL, where the dems fool the voters though.
36   Shaman   2018 May 14, 1:28pm  

edvard says
pretty much ALL of the post millennial generation leans very heavily to the left... as in FDR new deal left


Nationalism, infrastructure spending, trade protectionism, labor protections, and a focus on the economy would aptly characterize FDR’s Presidency. Sound familiar? Those are all things the Left decries daily about Trump!
Meanwhile, the Left wants MOAR TAXES, institutional hate for white males, locking up people who might have and use a penis, and a tranny in every bathroom.
The only millennial buying that platform are either stupid or pandering to the friends who are stupid.

The New Republican Party under Trump is a lot like the Old Democrat party... minus all the racism and Jim Crow.
37   Shaman   2018 May 14, 1:30pm  

edvard says
You guys do realize that ever since the election that the GOP has been losing elections like mad


Hey, winning five out of six special elections isn’t that great... for the Democrats! Mostly because five Republicans got elected and only one of their own.
38   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 May 14, 1:46pm  

Quigley says
Nationalism, infrastructure spending, trade protectionism, labor protections, and a focus on the economy would aptly characterize FDR’s Presidency. Sound familiar? Those are all things the Left decries daily about Trump!

Trump as FDR?

Infrastructure spending: FDR started WPA, which hired millions. That was something that Obama should have done. It's totally not needed now, since we are on the longest reduction in unemployment in history (most of which happened under Obama). Anyway, Trump hasn't done anything of the sort, and the only infrastructure spending has been plans to privatize things.
Nationalism: FDR brought us into WW2 and oversaw most of the victory that would lead us into a position of strength in the world. We have used relationships since then to keep us out of another big war, using a world order Trump calls globalism. Trump is tearing down that world order.
Focus on the economy? All presidents focus on the economy. If Trump achieved what Obama achieved, his supporters would be bragging on it all day long. Obama brought unemployment from around 10% down to 4.7% or so. Trump has taken it from 4.7% to 4.1%. Yet, Trump supporters say Obama sucked, and Trump is great. Lowest unemployment in years!!!!!!!!
39   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 2:04pm  

drB6 says
https://i1.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/gs_20161121_youth-party-id.jpg?fit=400%2C9999px&ssl=1


This is as crystal clear as it gets.



There will be no blue wave.
40   socal2   2018 May 14, 2:10pm  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Obama brought unemployment from around 10% down to 4.7% or so.


I thought that was due to the Republican Congress under Obama?
41   anonymous   2018 May 14, 2:21pm  

The Leftist argument here is more about personal attacks and what they think most Americans want, versus the positive change being implemented. Who wouldn't want a stronger defense and border, lower taxes, less waste and welfare, stronger foreign policy, etc.? Isn't that what Trump is trying to do?

This is exactly what's wrong with the Left. They're so triggered about losing the election, that it blinds them from seeing what policies are actually getting implemented and the good that it's having on the country. It's really pathetic and very beta in nature.

"I can't wait until the Right loses and someone Left gets in office. Then we can really make ourselves weaker and bigger pussies, but then maybe everyone around the world will like us." You all are more worried about being liked, not being called racist, not being labeled greedy, etc., versus doing the right thing. You're probably the parent that gives their child whatever they want so that they won't hate you. Grow some balls.
42   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 2:38pm  

The Democrats/Left have no message. I repeat, they have zero policy prescriptions to fix the country. Ever since November 2016, their entire platform is "obstruct Trump".

They ditched Dreamers, they ditched the working class, they ditched blacks. Everything has been Russia, Stormy Daniels. No one gives a shit about that. People care about paying their mortgage, having a job to do so, and having more money on their paycheck at the end of the month.

I don't give two shits about who pees where, or who marries who, or what color someone's skin is. I want my gay mexican friend to to have the right to get married, smoke weed, and to be able to protect his black atheist husband with an AR15.

Democrats are the same old socialist who eventually become communist that we've always known, and were responsible for 100,000,000 deaths in the 20th century. Fuck em.
43   anonymous   2018 May 14, 2:53pm  

Amen, Goran. I blame politicians and the media for corrupting the Left's minds so much and twisting their thought process and playing with their emotions. The media does it to the Right too, and I hate it when they do, but the Left is 1000x worse.
44   edvard   2018 May 14, 2:54pm  

"There will be no blue wave."

So you picked a single url? How about a url that shows ALL of the polls together?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

You see, that is a chart which includes all existing polls and polling data. The trend has been un-changed more or less for over a year and the GOP has lagged behind an average of 5-6 points, which statistically is huge. But by all means- keep believing in what you want to. Maybe since you're so confident maybe just stay home.

"The Democrats/Left have no message. I repeat, they have zero policy prescriptions to fix the country. Ever since November 2016, their entire platform is "obstruct Trump".
They ditched Dreamers, they ditched the working class, they ditched blacks. Everything has been Russia, Stormy Daniels. No one gives a shit about that. People care about paying their mortgage, having a job to do so, and having more money on their paycheck at the end of the month. "

Most of what you said was pretty much horse shit. I'm sorry but the GOP is the party that ran on a racist platform, chose a nasty lil' nest of racist, xenophobic dipshits to run, and after Trump won, he chose to fill his cabinet with folks who constantly get themselves into trouble on ethics. That members of his admin like the head of the EPA, the public education system and the FCC are ALL incredibly unpopular, and are in the news constantly where such folks were never placed in the limelight before shows that nope- the GOP doesn't give one rat's ass about anyone other than themselves and their corporate backers.

And you seem to think that the DNC being against Trump isn't much of a platform? When the president actively seeks to ruin the country on a daily basis it is indeed a very valid platform-albeit a temporary one - but more or less a platform built for the national emergency we now exist in with this joke of a president.
45   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 2:57pm  

Feux Follets says
Why does your "friend" have to have an identifying label ? Why can't he just be your friend ?


Ask the Democrats. Everything in their platform is a label or "identity". I think it's obvious (for some) that I'm trying to point out that labels don't matter.

Feux Follets says
God damn FDR...damn that man


Exactly. Putting Americans in concentration camps. What a total fag. Fuck that crippled dead asshole.
46   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 2:59pm  

edvard says
And you seem to think that the DNC being against Trump isn't much of a platform? When the president actively seeks to ruin the country on a daily basis it is indeed a very valid platform-albeit a temporary one - but more or less a platform built for the national emergency we now exist in with this joke of a president.


Ruin it for WHO?

Who is suffering right now besides snowflake lefty assholes who don't understand how an election works?
47   Shaman   2018 May 14, 3:00pm  

Feux Follets says
When did those last two parts occur ?


Read some history Feux. In the 30s and 40s, Democrats were the party of segregation, the KKK, and Jim Crow. Blacks began to hold their nose and vote Democrat due only to FDR’s social policies which included social safety nets. It wasn’t until the Republican majority pushed through the Civil Rights Act that Democrats decided to pivot, capitalize on the black vote, and win some elections.
48   Shaman   2018 May 14, 3:02pm  

edvard says
When the president actively seeks to ruin the country on a daily basis it is indeed a very valid platform-albeit a temporary one - but more or less a platform built for the national emergency we now exist in with this joke of a president.


Huh. Wanna give some examples we can either validate or pick apart?
Wasn’t this the exact same thing some people said about Obama?
Memory isn’t your thing, huh?
49   Bd6r   2018 May 14, 3:04pm  

edvard says
So you picked a single url? How about a url that shows ALL of the polls together?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

You see, that is a chart which includes all existing polls and polling data. The trend has been un-changed more or less for over a year and the GOP has lagged behind an average of 5-6 points, which statistically is huge. But by all means- keep believing in what you want to. Maybe since you're so confident maybe just stay home.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
50   anonymous   2018 May 14, 3:11pm  

edvard says
I'm sorry but the GOP is the party that ran on a racist platform, chose a nasty lil' nest of racist, xenophobic dipshits to run, and after Trump won, he chose to fill his cabinet with folks who constantly get themselves into trouble on ethics. That members of his admin like the head of the EPA, the public education system and the FCC are ALL incredibly unpopular, and are in the news constantly where such folks were never placed in the limelight before shows that nope- the GOP doesn't give one rat's ass about anyone other than themselves and their corporate backers.
Wow, you just proved our point. The GOP ran on a racist platform lol? You have no link to reality except for what you hear from Van Jones.
51   edvard   2018 May 14, 3:22pm  

"Wow, you just proved our point. The GOP ran on a racist platform lol? You have no link to reality except for what you hear from Van Jones."

You guys seem to enjoy behaving like most right wing nutters I've run into who are either genuinely dumb or play dumb when it comes to super obvious shit, like things Trump has literally and unquestionably done.

The very FIRST thing Trump did, on day one was to go on a big rant against Hispanics. You remember now? Where he called them drug dealers, rapists and whatnot? Yeah- sounds pretty racist to me, right?

Oh- and what about then having Steve Bannon run his campaign- a guy who has repeatedly gloated and bragged about the alt-right and is the favorite darling of various right wing hate groups?

And speaking of Bannon... remember when first he and then Trump decided they would support that mollestor down in Alabama?
Or what about when Trump sort of suggested that Nazis in that rally in NC were decent people?

Shall I go on or have I made the obvious facts you choose to ignore so glaringly clear?


And what about
52   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 3:22pm  

Feux Follets says
It's the Democrat's fault someone chooses to use "unique identifiers" when talking about someone else who supposedly is their "friend" ?


Yes, that is exactly the point! Glad you got it.

53   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 3:23pm  

edvard says
The very FIRST thing Trump did, on day one was to go on a big rant against Hispanics.


Uh no, illegal aliens. Trump has hired thousands of hispanics. Do racist people put paychecks into minority pockets every month? No, they enslave them or put them on welfare programs like Democrats do.
54   edvard   2018 May 14, 3:24pm  

"Yes, that is exactly the point! Glad you got it. "

And now that you seem clearly unable to devote time to an intelligent post you'll do like most wingnut trolls: Start posting immature memes. Yeah- way to try and prove whatever laughably point you might have made.

"Uh no, illegal aliens. Trump has hired thousands of hispanics. Do racist people put paychecks into minority pockets every month? No, they enslave them or put them on welfare programs like Democrats"

Uh yes, illegals or not, making nasty racist comments about humans in general is... Racist. Or are you too dense to get that?
55   anonymous   2018 May 14, 3:24pm  

edvard says
You guys seem to enjoy behaving like most right wing nutters I've run into who are either genuinely dumb or play dumb when it comes to super obvious shit, like things Trump has literally and unquestionably done.
I want quotes and documented actions. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze.
56   edvard   2018 May 14, 3:25pm  

"I want quotes. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze."

Don't be so lazy. Have you heard of Google? I'm not going to be your baby sitter: Go look that shit up yourself. Its easy and everything I said comes up right away and was heavily reported when it occurred- on FOX news too...
57   WookieMan   2018 May 14, 3:33pm  

edvard says
"There will be no blue wave."

So you picked a single url? How about a url that shows ALL of the polls together?


Highlight the text and then click quote. Your comments are difficult to read if you haven't read all the prior comments.
58   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 3:41pm  

edvard says
And now that you seem clearly unable to devote time to an intelligent post you'll do like most wingnut trolls:


Intelligent post? Don't intelligent post require intelligent points? Or even "a point"? I honestly didn't see one.
59   Goran_K   2018 May 14, 3:43pm  

edvard says
Uh yes, illegals or not, making nasty racist comments about humans in general is... Racist. Or are you too dense to get that?


First off, calm it down with the personal attacks. Last warning or you're going to start getting nuked. You're not going to like it, and honestly, I don't like doing it. Just follow the rules.

Secondly, what nasty racist comments? Saying some illegals who come over the border are "bad people" is not a nasty comment, it's simply a fact of life. When you don't check who is coming over, inevitably, you will get bad apples streaming across unmitigated.
60   CBOEtrader   2018 May 14, 3:48pm  

PrivilegedtobeWhite says
literally and unquestionably


Lol so literally and unquestionably that you can't be bothered to address anything specific, apparently.



edvard says
"I want quotes. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze."

Don't be so lazy. Have you heard of Google? I'm not going to be your baby sitter: Go look that shit up yourself. Its easy and everything I said comes up right away and was heavily reported when it occurred- on FOX news too...


Haha, ofc.

Ed: "Trump is racist. CNN told me so."
Also Ed: "I have no sources."

Ladies and gentlemen, this is TDS in action.
61   anonymous   2018 May 14, 5:52pm  

edvard says
"I want quotes. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze."

Don't be so lazy. Have you heard of Google? I'm not going to be your baby sitter: Go look that shit up yourself. Its easy and everything I said comes up right away and was heavily reported when it occurred- on FOX news too...
I can't find anything that proves that he is running a racist platform. Back up your shit.
62   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 14, 7:05am  

Holidays to Today:

Trump Approval


Trump Disapproval was +21 pts on 12/15/17.
Trump Disapproval stands at +8pts as of 8/13/18.

His margin of disapproval has been cut in half, despite a full court press of Negative Media (which nobody in their right mind can deny) - Unheard for a President who is demonstrating success in hard numbers from GDP to Unemployment to Increasing Exports.

Generic Ballot
Dems lead by 13 points around Christmas 2017
Dems lead has been chopped to a third of that, now 4 points as of Mid August 2018.

63   MrMagic   2018 Aug 14, 8:11am  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Trump Disapproval was +21 pts on 12/15/17.
Trump Disapproval stands at +8pts as of 8/13/18.


TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Dems lead by 13 points around Christmas 2017
Dems lead has been chopped to a third of that, now 4 points as of Mid August 2018.


Come on, you're just quoting fake Fox News crap....

Oh, wait.... it's RCP, which is consider to be one of the most accurate...

Damn.... Time for some NEW FAKE Russia scandal dreamed up by the Liberal MSM. I wonder how Rachel Maddow feels about those numbers?

The "Blue Wave" has turned into a trickling creek.
64   CBOEtrader   2018 Aug 14, 8:34am  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
despite a full court press of Negative Media (which nobody in their right mind can deny) - Unheard for a President who is demonstrating success in hard numbers from GDP to Unemployment to Increasing Exports.


People dont like being deceived. As they realize, one by one that the MSM is lying about Trump, his ratings will improve. This also gives him a bullet-proof coating against the MSM attacks, since every Trump supporter has realized the MSM is lying constantly.

His approval will rise as the FBI/CIA/Hillary collusion against him during 2016 election continues to come to light. They never thought they would lose, and have been fighting against the inevitable ever since.
65   Rin   2018 Aug 14, 11:14am  

Goran_K says
Who is suffering right now besides snowflake lefty assholes who don't understand how an election works?


This is key ...

http://patrick.net/post/1315913/2018-05-11-be-honest-if-there-s-no-sudden-economic-collapse-then-trump-gets-re-elected

In it ...

"BTW, I have a thread on election bitches because these east/west coast Femi-Nazis ...

http://patrick.net/post/1301811/2017-01-23-election-bitches-read-my-lips-the-vote-of-women-in-boston-and-nyc-don-t-matter

went ape shit because they couldn't figure out that it takes more than winning over places like Boston and NYC to put a candidate into the White House."
66   Rin   2018 Aug 14, 11:16am  

Seriously, why were 1000s of women, running around the cities of Boston and NYC, protesting the election in mass?

They had already won Massachusetts and New York State!

All they did was create a major traffic jam for YES! ... Hillary Clinton voters!
67   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 14, 5:55pm  

MrMagic says
The "Blue Wave" has turned into a trickling creek.


8/14/18 Update: Rasmussen, which does Likely Voters rather than less reliable Registered Voters and certainly the laughable "All Adults", has Trump +1 Approval.

AND, Trumps total approval is now a mere -5%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
68   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 14, 6:23pm  

Aphroman says
It’s a shame that Republicans make the laws here in the States. If they respected our Constitution and Americans way of life


It's not a shame, it's democracy, something leftists hate when they don't win elections.

Also, protecting the 2nd Amendment is respecting the Constitution.
69   Shaman   2018 Aug 14, 6:40pm  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
8/14/18 Update: Rasmussen, which does Likely Voters rather than less reliable Registered Voters and certainly the laughable "All Adults", has Trump +1 Approval.


This poll was the most accurate for predicting election 2016. RCP averages in a lot of super questionable polls with extremely divergent results to get their number. GIGO!

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