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bob2356 says

What party it that? i'm independent formerly republican. Republicans control both houses. How many mandatory usage of e verify bills have they introduced under Trump? Zero.

Yet you never seem to have nary a bad word about Democrats when they oppose "common sense" immigration reform. This week we have Democrats like Kamala Harris saying that no illegal alien family should ever be detained if caught by ICE sneaking across the border. That is basically total open borders. All a human or drug smuggler needs is to carry a kid with them.

I've already conceded that some Republican Chamber of Commerce types are against E-Verify, but the majority of Republicans are for it. E-Verify doesn't get out of committee because they know they can't get enough Democrat votes in the House and Senate once out of committee.

socal2 says

Yet you never seem to have nary a bad word about Democrats when they oppose "common sense" immigration reform. This week we have Democrats like Kamala Harris saying that no illegal alien family should ever be detained if caught by ICE sneaking across the border. That is basically total open borders. All a human or drug smuggler needs is to carry a kid with them.

What "common sense" immigration reform are you talking about? Changing the policy from prioritizing going after proven criminals to simply making everyone a criminal case and creating total chaos. I agree with the dems that was just stupid. The debates on immigration reform on patnet are always right wingnuts throwing out outrageous bullshit bombs. Want to show the debates that have been had where the dem's were blocking common "common sense" immigration reform?

The only common sense immigation reform is eliminating jobs for illegals. Not a peep out about going after employers from trump or the republicans. I said the exact same thing when it was Obama in charge.

socal2 says

I've already conceded that some Republican Chamber of Commerce types are against E-Verify, but the majority of Republicans are for it. E-Verify doesn't get out of committee because they know they can't get enough Democrat votes in the House and Senate once out of committee.

Load of crap. R's have a majority in the house and don't need a single D vote. No way D's are going the philibuster E-Verify in the Senate going into mid term elections. Never going to happen. The republican comiittee chairman are deliberatly bottling it up so they can have their cake and eat it to. Appease the base with rhetoric about going after illegal immigrants and the corporatate donors by actually preventing anything from happening.

zzyzzx says

What this is really about.

What can you say about people who put their children at risk for a personal advantage? New Democrats?

These are the negligent, short sighted, brain dead, procreating ASSHOLES you DON'T want as citizens.

bob2356 says

What "common sense" immigration reform are you talking about?

Securing the border for starters. Eliminating sanctuary cities. Beefing up ICE enforcement. Ending chain migration.

Democrats are against all of that.

bob2356 says

Changing the policy from prioritizing going after proven criminals to simply making everyone a criminal case and creating total chaos.

Here's a hint, everyone who crosses the border illegally is a criminal. EVERY ONE. Which part of that law is difficult to understand?

This might help you:

Feux Follets says

socal2 says

Ending chain migration

Does this apply to Melania and her family ?

Ahhhhh...

So unique, isn't that cute!

socal2 says

Securing the border for starters. Eliminating sanctuary cities. Beefing up ICE enforcement. Ending chain migration.

And E-Verify!

I still just cannot understand any Left logic on the pro-illegal-immigration stance. It's as if their belief system isn't really their own, but simply whatever the opposite of the Right is.

Sniper says

Trump Signs E.O. that will keep migrant families together - What's the next Democrat Faux Outrage Du Jour?

Melania's jacket.

Feux Follets says

How about something concerning the Golden Golem's brilliant tariffs that may lead to a depression ?

If you mean an economic depression, that's impossible with the fed printing and the fake GDP numbers. If you mean a psychological depression, that's been going on since Nov. 2016

RafiMaas says

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

I still just cannot understand any Left logic on the pro-illegal-immigration stance.

It's called pro- human rights. Pro- not having my rights trampled

Rafi is illegal?

This video posted by Trump is actually pretty amusing:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009536237881847808

RafiMaas says

If you don't want me to come after your second you sure as shit better not come after my 4th.

Cut the crap: you'll be coming after the 2nd no matter what until your last breath.

socal2 says

bob2356 says

What "common sense" immigration reform are you talking about?

Securing the border for starters. Eliminating sanctuary cities. Beefing up ICE enforcement. Ending chain migration.

Democrats are against all of that.

Which bills were those? What were the vote totals? Saying something is true doesn't make it true. Keeping E-verify in committee and refusing to allow it to a floor vote has zero to do with dems, even though you claim the dems are holding it up. Something you skipped over discussing while accusing me of political favouritism. .

So once we secure the borders what shall we do about the problem that 2/3's of illegals entered legally and overstayed? Will a gazillion dollar wall help with that? If the existing laws against employing illegals were enforced and no one would employ an illegal those illegals would leave also. When do you suppose trump will be issuing an executive order on that? When will we see executives doing perp walks? Until that day it's all self serving political theatre on both sides. But the R's are the hypocrites. The dems have wrong positions on some of the issues, but they aren't saying one thing and doing another.

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

I still just cannot understand any Left logic on the pro-illegal-immigration stance. It's as if their belief system isn't really their own, but simply whatever the opposite of the Right is.

It's just based on the Liberal kool-aid they drink and what Rachel Maddow tells them to think. Logic??? That horse left the barn a long time ago!

Voters Blame Parents, Not Feds, For Border Children Crisis

Most voters blame the parents of the separated children at the border for the latest illegal immigration crisis, not the federal government.

When families are arrested and separated after attempting to enter the United States illegally, 54% of Likely U.S. Voters say the parents are more to blame for breaking the law.

To help understand the current political debate over the children issue, a closer look shows that 82% of Republicans and 56% of voters not affiliated with either major political party feel the parents are more to blame for breaking the law. But 60% of Democrats say the government is more to blame for enforcing the law.

Seventy-five percent (75%) of Democrats think the Trump administration is too aggressive in trying to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States, a view shared by only 23% of Republicans and a plurality (46%) of unaffiliated voters.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis

Feux Follets says

Speaking of crickets and pawns still not a peep from the base on this even after a week or more...

The Iran Business Ties Trump Didn’t Disclose. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-iran-business-ties-trump-didnt-disclose

Maybe because there's NOTHING to disclose. Did you miss this part of the article?

....."There is no reason to think that anyone in the Trump Organization was intentionally seeking to help the Iranians. Trump’s top lawyer at the time, Jason Greenblatt, oversaw the contract with the Mammadovs and is now at the White House, serving as an adviser on the Middle East. An Orthodox Jew, Greenblatt is known as a supporter of Israel and an antagonist of Iran."

Another Faux Liberal Outrage, foiled again.....

NEXT!!

bob2356 says

But the R's are the hypocrites. The dems have wrong positions on some of the issues, but they aren't saying one thing and doing another.

Good grief.
www.youtube.com/embed/Lps-As9djiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=728SW65tlU0

RafiMaas says

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

I still just cannot understand any Left logic on the pro-illegal-immigration stance.

It's called pro- human rights. Pro- not having my rights trampled. If you don't want me to come after your second you sure as shit better not come after my 4th. Don't tread on me.

Huh? Is it your human right to enter my house without my permission? Your argument is a red herring.

The Time Cartoon is a gift.

For Low Information Retards and Extremists, a rallying cry.

For the Silent Majority, more eyerolling at the over-the-top Narrative Pushing.

HEYYOU says

What group of dumb asses were complaining about Obama's E.Os.

What group of dumbasses were defending Obama's EOs?

komputodo says

Sniper says

Trump Signs E.O. that will keep migrant families together - What's the next Democrat Faux Outrage Du Jour?

Melania's jacket.

That didn't take long:
Chorus of celebrities attack the First Lady over 'dumb and moronic' slogan jacket saying 'I really don't care' after she wore it to visit immigrant child detention center, as White House tries to shrug off scandal and Don Jr mocks backlash...Chelsea Handler was among the big names to slam Melania for the item of clothing, tweeting: 'The hypocrisy of @FLOTUS going down to the border to speak broken English to our refugees in that dumb jacket is a little hard to swallow.'

Why would anybody care what a failed comic who lets people piss on her face says about anything?

Feux Follets says

What ever happened to that line - don't blame the children for the mistakes of their parents the prolifers love to use ?

Who's doing that?

Sniper says

Voters Blame Parents, Not Feds, For Border Children Crisis

Most voters blame the parents of the separated children at the border for the latest illegal immigration crisis, not the federal government.

Please point to where it says the children are to blame.

I'm pretty sure the children don't travel 1000 miles through the heat all by themselves and made the decision to go to the US without parental involvement.

Sniper says

Feux Follets says

What ever happened to that line - don't blame the children for the mistakes of their parents the prolifers love to use ?

Who's doing that?

Give him a break. he gets confused easily.