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Calling it Now: Best-President-to-Date


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2018 Jul 1, 12:01am   18,396 views  69 comments

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It has truly been an unexpected surprise to watch the Trump admin perform thus far. In totality, I am fairly confident to call it now: we are witnessing a very rare event of effective and beneficial leadership, one that we may not witness again in our lifetime. That is all I wanted to post. Good luck to each of you in making the best of these good times.

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 1, 3:50am  

I get up every day, jazzed that we have a President willing to stand up to one-sided unfree trade. The thing with immigration and foreign policy is a delightful extra.

I look over and see a Party that wants multinationals to have unlimited ability to outsource and insource, then import tariff-free into the USA, that wants Border Enforcement eliminated, and all Guns Banned and I say, how could more than 15% of the population vote for such extremist policies?
2   lostand confused   2018 Jul 1, 5:41am  

Open border protests in all major cities. Couldn't ask for better advertisement for repiblicans-vote for us or batshit crazy will take over.
3   lostand confused   2018 Jul 1, 7:07am  

Feux Follets says
Protesting is a problem now ?

Nope, I am actually encouraging the batshit crazy open borders brigade to protest. The more crazy hangs out in the open, the more sane people run to the republicans.
4   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jul 1, 7:22am  

You would have to be a first rate Moron driven by fear and hate of Trump to deny that.
5   Shaman   2018 Jul 1, 8:17am  

I have no problem with Democrats protesting for open borders and transgender rights and free shit at taxpayer expense! It firmly delineates their position for voters, and best of all, the idiotic MSM covers it nonstop! It’s contradictory advertisement for the Democrats!

Let me give a recent example of this.
Gavin Newsome did something clever in the recent primary election. He spent millions running nonstop ads which warned about one of his opponents, a little known businessman originally from Illinois, John Cox. The ads claimed that Cox was pro gun and pro business and pro immigration enforcement as well as being anti-sanctuary state. Then the ads contrasted with Newsome’s position of being the opposite of that. As a Republican voter, those ads were designed to give me a favorable view of Cox, while giving a favorable view of Newsome to any Leftist voters out there. But that was AS INTENDED! Newsome wanted GOP support to coalesce behind a candidate who would displace the other Democrat front runner, who would stand an excellent chance of beating him if GOP voters were forced to choose between two Democrats. So he needed to run against a Republican to have his best chance. Thus, he designed his ads to promote his favored opponent to his base even as he promoted himself to his own base.

This protest action by Democrats is working against them, coalescing horrified patriots behind the GOP. Even people with hesitation about current Republican policies would rather see law and order continue than have our civilization devolve into a communistic Hell.

So keep it up, Lefties! You’re shooting yourselves in the fucking face and we can’t get enough of it!
6   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 9:09am  

lostand confused says
the more sane people run to the republicans.


Sane ?
7   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 9:25am  

Is this like Logan's "Place your bets now on the 2016 recession thread" ?

Remember how that turned out for everyone that placed their bets, opened their mouths and called their shots.

It seems Logan had the last laugh and anyone paying attention would have known better not to open their mouth or call something that wasn't going to happen...but no.....................
8   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jul 1, 9:32am  

Ya'll remember Obama? He could have been a contender.
9   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 1, 2:02pm  

This November, the choice couldn't be more Clear:


10   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 2:12pm  

steverbeaver says
It has truly been an unexpected surprise to watch the Trump admin perform thus far. In totality, I am fairly confident to call it now: we are witnessing a very rare event of effective and beneficial leadership, one that we may not witness again in our lifetime. That is all I wanted to post. Good luck to each of you in making the best of these good times.
100% agree. I'm impressed with Trump's resilience through all of the hating by the Left (and some of the Right). It takes balls to keep your promises and ignore all the haters for the sake of saving this country. MAGA
13   Patrick   2018 Jul 3, 7:51am  

I admit I was pretty worried when The Donald won the election, but so far he has done much good and I wish him well.

Unlike conventional presidents who shallowly take polls and shift with the wind on every issue, he seems well motivated by the contempt the Ivy League/NPR/NYTimes crowd has for him. He wants to demonstrate that they are wrong, and that is working out nicely for the country.
14   FortWayne   2018 Jul 3, 7:58am  

He’s the leader we needed.
15   Ceffer   2018 Jul 3, 8:12am  

Gee, you really think he's better than the America hating, hysterical, free shit suicide pilots and corrupt, psychopath royalists of the left?

I personally think he's worse then HITLER, when he isn't being worse than SATAN!
16   Shaman   2018 Jul 3, 8:40am  

You realize that the youth of today are going to equate Hitler with an orange guy who just wants to make America great again. Due to the constant comparison, Hitler’s reputation may move from the 20th Century SATAN to just the Diet Coke of evil. Just one calorie. Not evil enough!
17   Ceffer   2018 Jul 3, 9:04am  

Yeah, the young history dunces are going to think that Hitler was a bloviating, Benny Hill talk show host with a pompadour and girls in sequined bikinis, and that Satan wears yoga pants.
18   zzyzzx   2018 Jul 3, 11:19am  



And the best part is, that since liberals won't eat any, there will be more for me!

Extra points if you traveled five states to find a liberal baker refusing to make it!
21   skridlov   2018 Jul 6, 8:00pm  

steverbeaver says
Calling it Now: Best-President-to-Date


You are joking right? Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy R,. FDR, to name an obvious few, you think none are "better" ? Ridiculous.
22   Strategist   2018 Jul 6, 8:08pm  

steverbeaver says
It has truly been an unexpected surprise to watch the Trump admin perform thus far. In totality, I am fairly confident to call it now: we are witnessing a very rare event of effective and beneficial leadership, one that we may not witness again in our lifetime. That is all I wanted to post. Good luck to each of you in making the best of these good times.


The usual politicians did all the usual things that never worked:
Kick the problem cans down the street
Talk diplomatically
Tolerate terrorism
Try not to offend anyone
Give nice speeches
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This businessman knows how to get things done. Kicks butt. Solves problems. And delivers.
I hope the era of the the same ole politicians is over. I think it is over.
23   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Jul 6, 8:26pm  

Ceffer says

Try not to offend anyone


Exterminated half the jewish population on the planet using ovens tends to be an extremely compelling argument.

Even if they are ignorant, that one sentence tends to make immediate headway.
24   Goran_K   2018 Jul 6, 8:28pm  

Towers over Clinton, even higher over Bush, and completely shits all over Obama.
25   Shaman   2018 Jul 7, 7:18am  

Trump isn’t the President of Russia! Only idiots think that!
28   Booger   2018 Jul 7, 4:49pm  

skridlov says
You are joking right? Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy R,. FDR, to name an obvious few, you think none are "better" ? Ridiculous.
.

Trump still has more than 6 more years. In that time even you will think of Trump as best ever.
30   komputodo   2018 Jul 7, 9:07pm  

Tim Aurora says
No he isn't but he is "for" Russia


I don't consider myself "FOR" Russia but on that same note, I have no desire to see it crash and burn. I believe several countries can co-exist and even do business to mutual advantage. I'm always amazed by the mindset of people who get their info from 20 second soundbites who believe the solution to all disagreements is "just nuke them".
31   bob2356   2018 Jul 8, 6:35am  

40 posts and no one has said why Trump is the greatest. So far:, cancelled tpp which wasn't going to pas anyway. big tax cut for .1%, said let's do lunch later to NK, didn't fuck up the continued growth of he economy. Other than TPP you could say exactly the same for reagan and bush first term. Where is all this greatness?
32   steverbeaver   2018 Jul 8, 9:06am  

I am basing this on performance behavior

Situation
Task
Actions
Results

Almost everything has been exceptional when viewed this way from my point of view, from announcement to current day. Maybe there's something out there that does a nice summary comparison among all presidents as well.
33   bob2356   2018 Jul 8, 12:04pm  

steverbeaver says
I am basing this on performance behavior

Situation
Task
Actions
Results

Almost everything has been exceptional when viewed this way from my point of view


Almost everything as in what?
34   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 8, 12:10pm  

Let's see, one, now two pro-2A judges, got the voluntary denuclearization of North Korea (a point you forgot, and not having to give billions on cash pallets to get it), fixing the unfair trade system, getting out of the horrible Iran Deal, record low unemployment, pushing a permanent solution to immigration, strong economy, ban of immigration from Shithole Civil War countries, standing up to Chinese Steel Dumping with the EU trying to pass the buck to us, demanding more Euro contributions for NATO, selling a shitload of weapons to Saudi Arabia, and standing up for American Workers against Harley Davidson, instead of giving the "Natural Forces" lie bullshit.

Oh, and top-notch, non-Brownie reactions to Texas and Puerto Rican hurricanes, the latter in the face of gross corruption and incompetence by Socialist Mayors.

Next: NAFTA goes bye-bye. Canada and Mexico need NAFTA a whole helluva lot more than the American Worker.

And we're not even halfway into his first term.
35   steverbeaver   2018 Jul 8, 3:56pm  

Tell me... are you still forced to buy health insurance or pay a "fine"?
36   steverbeaver   2018 Jul 8, 4:06pm  

Latest example: precisely zero fucks given when dealing with Chinese bullshit on trade. Situation is all recent previous presidents did jack shit to keep things fair. Task is to make America Great Again. Actions involve stern warnings followed up by actual soft actions in the form of new tariffs. Result is stock market knows what's-what and cares fuck-all about repercussions because they know we will win on this handily. It was a difficult choice to make and had lots of opposition. Does a good leader ultimately rely on "consensus"? How many detractors to his actions were benefitting from status-quo?

If you come at me arguing about how China was fair to US or its other trade partners, there is ample proof to the contrary and I have personally observed it.
37   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 8, 5:26pm  

TrumpingTits says
No...or rather, this incarnation of NAFTA will go bye-bye. It is a congressional-executive agreement, so it will take Congress to pass legislation in both houses to rescind it and you know that they won't. But, they will be happy to replace it with a new NAFTA. So, we will get a NAFTA 2. And I'd be careful about wishing for a new King, if I were you. You might just get one. :)


If it's a treaty, while the President can make treaties that the Senate has to ratify, the Constitution does not explicitly require Senate approval to abrogate Treaties. The Precedence is somewhat mixed but in favor of Presidential Abrogation.
38   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 8, 5:28pm  

steverbeaver says
Tell me... are you still forced to buy health insurance or pay a "fine"?


Ah, Another great Trump accomplishment Big Insurance got their mandatory insurance/subsidy scheme nixed.

I'm sure a missed a few other Big Achievements.
39   MrMagic   2018 Jul 8, 7:13pm  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
I'm sure a missed a few other Big Achievements.


Yes you did, a BIG one... your 401K balance:

40   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 8, 7:28pm  

TrumpingTits says
So it is legislation. And like all forms of legislation, only Congress can change it, repeal it or the courts can declare it unconstitutional. Now Trump could simply refuse to follow/enforce the law much like Obama's Regime did. But that could be challenged in court.


Except, NAFTA has a clause in it.

Article 2205: Withdrawal

A Party may withdraw from this Agreement six months after it provides written notice of withdrawal to the other Parties. If a Party withdraws, the Agreement shall remain in force for the remaining Parties.

http://www.sice.oas.org/trade/nafta/chap-22.asp

Many experts believe Trump can withdraw, although Congress could reimpose it - which would be a hugely unpopular move among the Republican Base.


Todd Tucker, fellow, the Roosevelt Institute
Congress can’t block Trump from withdrawing, but he will have other problems to deal with if he does so.

The executive branch has exclusive authority over foreign relations. Presidents from William McKinley to Franklin Roosevelt to Jimmy Carter terminated international agreements without explicit congressional authorization — including some that dealt with trade.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/26/16505508/nafta-congress-block-trump-withdraw-trade-power

So excited. Right now, China and Europe are using Mexico and Canada as backdoors to get Euro/Chinese goods tariff free into the USA, providing Canadian and Mexican jobs while depriving Americans of those jobs they would have gotten if NAFTA didn't exist, while depriving America of Tariff Revenue. A Lose-Lose deal.

Canada has a mere 36M people. It needs NAFTA far, far, far more than we do.

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