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I feel that a good chunk of the Media's attitude problem isn't just Trump, but their desire to prove to themselves that they still have the power to move the needle.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Aphroman says

So I’m 1 for 1 in showing right wingers murdering innocent Americans, driving their cars into crowds of people, JUST LIKE ISIS, and you still can’t show one example of The Left murdering anyone

You realize violence is more than murder, yes?

The BLM shooter killed 5 cops.

Ah forgot about the BLM shooter.

There was also a BLM stabber on a campus, in Texas I think.

* the guy who beat up Rand Paul on his front lawn, breaking ribs
* 2017 Congressional baseball shooting

And here are 180 violent attacks on Trump supporters:

https://fusiontables.google.com/data?docid=1hmh7MncFInF_LmbYBA9bePIYFyqQhU6Zj9ro9jB7#map:id=3

Left is violent and act like Nazis
Change My Mind

The stand down orders by Democrat Mayors are despicable. I not only hope that Mr Hernandez wins his law suit, I hope the evil corrupt Democrat mayor is individually found guilty.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Just a taste of Leftist violence:
www.youtube.com/embed/MW2F46eqiKg




Even the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed the case against the Police and Mayor of San Diego can go forward:

A three-judge panel with Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with Trump supporter Juan Hernandez, the lead plaintiff in a federal lawsuit against the San Jose Police Department.

“San Jose PD lead us right into the protesters,” said Hernandez. “Someone needs to be held accountable for what happened. So, it’s awesome — a huge step — to know that they will be held accountable for the lack of planning and the stand-down order that they received.”

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/07/27/trump-supporters-score-legal-v...

Aphroman says

Everyone knows that the right wingers violence like Charlottesville ended up with one person being murdered

The left created that atmosphere of violence by showing up at a legally registered public rally with 3 to 1 numbers, carrying weapons and assaulting those attempting to engage in their 1st amendment rights.

The kid got scared, was surrounded by a mob throwing rocks and swinging sticks. It is not exactly unforeseeable for a cornered man to overreact and run his car over the protesters. In fact there are hundreds of clips of leftist protesters assaulting cars and getting run over. A severe injury was a matter of time, and largely their own damn fault.

The premise stands: all the political violence today is from the left.

Does anyone ever see people on the right trying to stop debates, rallies, conventions, free speech, and protests on the left? And on college campuses it’s even worse the left does not tolerate any opposing speech or ideas. I don’t even see how this is debatable its constant, the left just seems to have vastly more unhinged mentally ill people that can’t even discuss anything without losing their shit.

https://federalistleague.wordpress.com/2018/10/10/the-democratic-party-a-party-of-violence-and-extremism/

The Democratic Party: A Party of Violence and Extremism

Canada, but it is the Left. Male Feminist who kicked a woman accused of doing the same back in August. Worked at a Hair Salon.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36873/male-feminist-who-kicked-pro-lifer-gets-arrested-amanda-prestigiacomo

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/protesters-assault-trump-supporters-eggs-bottles-punches-after-rally-n585096

Protesters Assault Trump Supporters With Eggs, Bottles, Punches After Rally

Booger says

That photo seems to be real:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6260447/Mans-pick-truck-torched-mob-Trump-sticker.html

Aphro showing the leftist hate.

CBOEtrader says

Aphro showing the leftist hate.

That's why when the Grapeshot starts it will be extry special.

Liberals are the most hypercritical little bitches on the planet.
I remember they were all crying because Trump said "Alright get him out of here, if someone hits him I'll pay your lawyer fee."

Trump was talking about a Liberal Shit Stirring Brownshirt sent by the Dirty rotten filthy Liberals to break the peace at the event Trump paid for, attended by people wanting to hear what he had to say.
Yet we get crickets from these Stupid Sons of Bitches when the Liberals suggest their base chase people down and harass and harangue people regardless where you find them.
Thank God I live in a stand your ground State. Those stupid mother fuckers don't pull that shit here no sir ree Bob. Not unless they want to leave the scene with a toe tag.

Come on Trump EO national Carry and Stand you r Ground. Libbies need a new pair of Shoes!

Good question, actually. Are there stats on recent leftist mob violence in relaxed (shall issue, stand your ground) vs. restrictive zones?
It would be somewhat skewed because the former tend to be right-leaning to begin with, which would reduce the possibility of such a thing and also imply that the police would be doing their job in the event that it occurs. Still, it would be a data point.
Gut feel says that it should be next to non-existent in firearm-enabled zones, but data is better than gut feel.

It's not just the Left that is violent. Police (typically Right leaning) shoot and kill about 100 un-armed people a year. I haven't seen statistics for those they shoot but aren't killed. Additionally, there are plenty of incidents of police beating up folks, intimidating people, using unreasonable force and generally harassing law abiding citizens. Yes, the left is violent, but so is the Right.

Misc says

It's not just the Left that is violent. Police (typically Right leaning) shoot and kill about 100 un-armed people a year. I haven't seen statistics for those they shoot but aren't killed. Additionally, there are plenty of incidents of police beating up folks, intimidating people, using unreasonable force and generally harassing law abiding citizens. Yes, the left is violent, but so is the Right.

2 problems here
1: "kill 100 un-armed people" is an irrelevancy because "unarmed" doesn't mean "unjustified". Ok, I'll buy that there's a number of unjustified shootings. Which takes me to the next point.
2: what makes you think that those who engage in unreasonable brutality are Right? In San Jose, in San Diego, (in how many other places?) the police all but played into the left agenda during anti-Trump riots. Whether or not police at large is right-leaning or left-leaning is irrelevant. Only a small percentage of the police engage in use of unreasonable force, what makes you think that they are not from the left component?

Here's statistically valid approach: IF you gather political leanings of "bad officers" AND compare it against right vs. left composition in the overall police force AND discover that first right/left ratio is greater than the second right/left ratio THEN you'd have a point.
I'm sure that you haven't done any of that. Long story short, this is not a valid argument. If this is the best there is, OP title is correct.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1051393437725904897

Look at this coward go for a sucker punch as soon as the guy looks away. Not today, dickhead! pic.twitter.com/kCpJ1LyvWF

— Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) October 14, 2018

Man shot trying to forcibly enter DC Fox Affiliate, had made repeated threats. "Mental Illness" to blame.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/fox-5-security-shoots-man-attempting-to-break-into-building

Nevermind the perp's long history with the police.
https://abc11.com/man-shot-outside-tv-station-in-washington-dc/4537005/

You can certainly be weak and violent. In fact, they very often go together. Mental Illness and Violence often go together as well, despite what Official Psykologie says.

Whether the weak and violent can prevail over the strong and well-armed and well versed in arms, is another story.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

their jihadi brethren who vote Democrat.

They kinda do, in Minneapolis/St Paul

jazz_music says

The further to the right the closer to fascism by definition.

Domestically, Black Nationalists have killed far more people (Police and Whites) in the past 3 years than the Alt-Right.

Black Nationalists are potentially recruited from about 12% of the population, the "AltRight" from about 75%. That makes the number of killings by Black Nationalists even more profound.

In order to get the numbers ginned up, the SPLC and others include Incels Elliot Rodgers, and (probably somewhat more understandably) Dylan Roof, though he had no anti-Black attitudes previous to a never-approached crush dating a black dude and nothing to indicate any AltRight ideology, and have to stretch back before the 2016 Election Season began.

In other words, the Left are so desperate to equivocate, they include Angry Young Incels as the "AltRight", rather than people who are clearly ideologues. And yes - all of the Black Nationalist Cop killers referenced Black Lives Matter and "White Oppression" fringe racist conspiracy theories during, before, and in some cases, after their attacks.

HonkpilledMaster says

Black Nationalists have killed far more people (Police and Whites) in the past 3 years than the Alt-Right.

Source?

200 Christians were just slaughtered in Sri Lanka (it's on the news).

Patrick says

ONLY the left is violent

Not true. But apparently facts are subjective ? Either that or killing doesn't count as violence ?

On Wednesday, the Anti-Defamation League released a report finding that attackers with ties to right-wing extremist movements killed at least 50 people in 2018. That was close to the total number of Americans killed by domestic extremists, meaning that the far right had an almost absolute monopoly on lethal terrorism in the United States last year. That monopoly would be total if, in one case, the perpetrator had not “switched from white supremacist to radical Islamist beliefs prior to committing the murder.”

The number of fatalities is 35 percent higher than the previous year, and it marks the fourth-deadliest year for such attacks since 1970. In fact, according to the ADL, white supremacists are responsible for the majority of such attacks “almost every year.” The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

HonkpilledMaster says

Whether the weak and violent can prevail over the strong and well-armed and well versed in arms, is another story.

Heinlein said it best:
“Never truly frighten a weak man. He’ll kill you.”

marcus says

and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

Would you consider a Cuban school shooter a white supremacist?

What about the Bernie supporter who stabbed people on the bus?

This is more so about destructution of definitions than any relevant trend.

marcus says

Not true. But apparently facts are subjective ? Either that or killing doesn't count as violence ?

You linked to a list of murders commited by people who are accused white supremacists. Some are proven white supremacists, who murdered someone. Ok. If 48 is all the violent crime related to extreme white supremacists they could document in 2018, we're doing pretty good as a society w white supremacy. Chicago gets more black supremacist murders every weekend.

Try reading the source data. It's almost as if the core claim is made up

CBOEtrader says

Chicago gets more black supremacist murders every weekend.

Wtf ? You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

marcus says

CBOEtrader says

Chicago gets more black supremacist murders every weekend.

Wtf ? You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You are saying that because you didnt read your own article. It is a list of violence perpetuated by anyone loosely acquainted w maybe white supremacy. It is NOT a list of white supremacist terrorism. That is a lie.

By the same logic every murder in Chicago would be called a violent black supremacist terrorist attack.

Here you go:



If you leave out the first one, which was probably Jihad motivated, that is 2016-2017 terror attacks by Black Militants on Cops. Not including anything like all Jihadi attacks., nor 2018, with no ambiguous incidents. This was a very quick search that indubitably missed a few because you can't sort by perpetrator, which is strange because you can sort by everything else. No doubt to make it tough on narrative disruptors.

As I said before, Incel attacks aren't Ring Wing Terrorism. Not getting laid is not a prequisite to being a "Nazi" or "White Supremacist".

Without counting the Flipouts of the Unfuckable, the SPLC and the AltLeft Narrative Pushers have no case