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Interracial Violent Crime Rates


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2019 Sep 30, 10:50pm   63,428 views  439 comments

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How is it possible that only 12% of the population (blacks) assault whites at more than 5x the reverse rate?

It's possible only if black people are far more racist than white people and deliberately choose to attack whites.

Why is this violent racism never mentioned in the mainstream press?

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49   Hircus   2022 May 27, 3:00pm  

Patrick says
Those are the absolute numbers. You could say that blacks kill whites at 2x the reverse if the population contained equal numbers of white and black people.

But the populations are very different. There are far more whites than blacks in the US, say 5x more whites. So black people kill white people at somewhere around 10x the reverse rate when you take the populations into account.

This implies that blacks are deliberately killing white people, which is a black racism far more pervasive and deadly than that of whites.


I'm not sure what you specifically mean when you refer to adjusting for pop. I can think of multiple ways to do it, each yielding different results.

I'll try to expand on the point I tried to make earlier.

Assume murders are random, unaffected by social circles, locality, bias etc...
You would expect all murders would be distributed equally among races, according to population percentage.
So if blacks are 13% of the pop, and whites are 60%, (and 27% in other categories) then you would expect to see 13% of murder victims be black, and 60% white.
And these same exact ratios would be expected for both white and black murderers. So, the expected ratio of victims would be determined by population ratios.

Expected victims of white murderers: 60% white, 13% black
Expected victims of black murderers: 60% white, 13% black
Actual victims of white murderers: 89% white, 8% black
Outgroup victim gap 13% - 8% = 5 or 13/8 = 1.6
Actual victims of black murderers: 16% white, 82% black
Outgroup victim gap 60% - 16% = 44 or 60/16 = 3.75


Of course, murder isnt random, nor is it unbiased, and social circles are a huge factor, along with other factors. But the reason I found this very unexpected is because while both blacks and whites show a VERY strong affinity for killing their own, blacks are much farther away from the population-expected percentage of victims than whites are. It's possible this indicates that blacks have a stronger affinity for killing their own compared to whites, although I want to say that I feel this dataset is pretty much inadequate for drawing conclusions from. While it's true that blacks kill outside their own more often than whites (16% vs 8% of their victims are outsiders), this would probably reverse if you adjusted for population, because since whites outnumber blacks 5x, in the absence of bias, one would expect the higher population white group to account for a relatively larger % of the victims compared to if whites were a small pop group.

While I don't have any personal experience with homicide, my personal experience with violent crime is that blacks have a chip on their shoulder and are aggressive towards whites much more often that the reverse. And this is a big part of why I was surprised by these findings, because it seems unintuitive and at odds w/ my experience.

If you look at the data from other angles, I think it would be easy to see that blacks commit more murders than whites, and dramatically more so when adjusted for pop. I think the "blacks are violent" argument is easy to make from that observation. But I'm not convinced on the "blacks target whites for murder" argument being drawn from this data set. I'm starting to wonder if maybe "blacks are violent" is sometimes misinterpreted as "blacks target whites for murder", at least for part of it.

I still think things will change if we had a better dataset. I suspect this data is like the female pay gap - one set of conclusions looks so obvious and strong when viewed from mile high aggregates, but when you break things down by context/scenario/specifics, it all falls apart, and flips prior conclusions on their head.
50   Patrick   2022 May 27, 4:09pm  

Hircus says
I'm not sure what you specifically mean when you refer to adjusting for pop.


The number of whites killed by blacks, divided by the number of blacks is 514 / (330000000 * 0.13) = 1.2 x 10^-5 whites killed by blacks per year, per member of the black population.

The number blacks killed by whites, divided by the number of whites is 234 / (330000000 * 0.60) = 0.12 x 10^-5 blacks killed by whites per year, per member of the white population.

So black people are about 10x more likely than whites to commit interracial murder, per person.

And since the number of black-white interactions is identical to the number of white-black interactions, black people are about 10x more dangerous to whites than the reverse.

@Hircus
51   Hircus   2022 May 27, 5:32pm  

Ok. So I agree blacks are violent, and also more violent than whites, which IMO is what that shows. I don't agree this particular data implies that they target whites.
52   AmericanKulak   2022 May 27, 6:33pm  

80% of kids are abused by their mothers.

But don't expect to see many PSAs or cartoons about it.
53   Patrick   2022 May 27, 8:04pm  

Hircus says

Ok. So I agree blacks are violent, and also more violent than whites, which IMO is what that shows. I don't agree this particular data implies that they target whites.


I admit that black people do kill an awful lot of other black people as well.
54   Misc   2022 May 28, 7:46pm  

The stats for Black violent crime compared to Whites is just so off the charts, the FBI includes Hispanics as White for crime stats.
55   AmericanKulak   2022 May 28, 8:36pm  

19-year old but third year Berkeley Student killed execution style in the Summer of Black Racists.

His killer whinged about people on caring about Da White Man. Yet the victim's own university made him an also-ran in his own obituary.


Many of you may have had a close relationship with Seth and are feeling a sense of loss and disbelief.

Others, like many of us, are experiencing stress, grief and anxiety related to the coronavirus pandemic and the recent murders of George Floyd, Riah Milton, and other Black Americans.


Sincerely,

Carol Christ
Chancellor

Stephen C. Sutton
Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs

Sunny Lee
Assistant Vice Chancellor and Dean of Students"

https://karlstack.substack.com/p/his-name-was-seth-smith
56   mell   2022 May 28, 9:28pm  

AmericanKulak says

19-year old but third year Berkeley Student killed execution style in the Summer of Black Racists.

His killer whinged about people on caring about Da White Man. Yet the victim's own university made him an also-ran in his own obituary.


Many of you may have had a close relationship with Seth and are feeling a sense of loss and disbelief.

Others, like many of us, are experiencing stress, grief and anxiety related to the coronavirus pandemic and the recent murders of George Floyd, Riah Milton, and other Black Americans.


Sincerely,

Carol Christ
Chancellor

Stephen C. Sutton
Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs

Sunny Lee
Assistant Vice Chancellor and Dean of Students"

https://karlstack.substack.com/p/his-name-was-seth-smith


This is the worst of the worst CA trash. Nobody should go to Berkeley. Fuck these leftoid asshoes
57   Patrick   2022 May 31, 10:35am  

https://patriots.win/p/15IEJrdyOy/racist-confrontation-caught-on-c/c/


–Madnote1984 10 points 2 hours ago +10 / -0
This is EXACTLY how you judo the outrage brigade when they come for you. Double-down and act totally justified like you give ZERO fucks. The minute you get all apologetic they smell blood and will destroy you.

–Bloodylouver 9 points 3 hours ago +10 / -1
I don’t see the problem… some negros act like Niggas.. it’s just a fact of life..when black folks stop saying it I might consider but not until then.

–cybertoke 7 points 3 hours ago +7 / -0
BASED!

and she does make a point. If you are acting like an absolute jogger, throwing slurs and attacks of your own, don't be surprised when you get called one.

Its like women who scream at and beat on men (a la Amber Heard ) and then freak out when you raise a hand to stop their attack after all else fails.

–JimJordansJacket 2 points 2 hours ago +2 / -0
I had a long talk with my son about this yesterday. Not just about racial matters but I’m all things be unapologetic. Stop compromising. Live the truth out loud and drag the Overton window back to the right where it belongs.

–Jthenk 4 points 3 hours ago +4 / -0
Wish she was my grandmother


The father of a friend of mine used to say "There are black people, and then there are niggers." It's true. The majority of black people are fine human beings, but some are not. We should judge them on the content of their character and not the color of their skins. For example, these two black men holding and beating and Asian in public are niggers:

58   BayArea   2022 May 31, 2:46pm  

I see it two ways

#1 stats

#2 growing up in Oakland, Berkeley, Richmond…


#2 left an impression on me in a way that #1 could never.
59   GNL   2022 May 31, 4:48pm  

Patrick says

https://patriots.win/p/15IEJrdyOy/racist-confrontation-caught-on-c/c/


–Madnote1984 10 points 2 hours ago +10 / -0
This is EXACTLY how you judo the outrage brigade when they come for you. Double-down and act totally justified like you give ZERO fucks. The minute you get all apologetic they smell blood and will destroy you.

–Bloodylouver 9 points 3 hours ago +10 / -1
I don’t see the problem… some negros act like Niggas.. it’s just a fact of life..when black folks stop saying it I might consider but not until then.

–cybertoke 7 points 3 hours ago +7 / -0
BASED!

and she does make a point. If you are acting like an absolute jogger, throwing slurs and attacks of your own, don't be surprised w...

How come no video of what the joggers did/said to her?
60   EBGuy   2022 May 31, 5:26pm  

Hircus says
I do expect to see very different numbers for a dataset that encompasses all violent crime, not just murder. I think murder is extreme and motivated by very different things than assault/robbery etc...

Be aware that Table 6 is Single Victim, Single Offender. Overall AA homicide victims in Table 6 is 2,925.[2018]
As the FBI explains elsewhere in its compilation, however, there were an estimated 17,250 murders in the United States that year [2016]. In 7,881 of these, the victim was black.
To summarize, (a) Table 3 drastically understates the total number of murders in 2016, and (b) in a high percentage of murders, the offender is unidentified. Consequently, the number of blacks killed by blacks in 2016 was clearly higher than 2,570 – no doubt, significantly higher if we assume the offense rates consistent with those derived from cases in which the offender’s race is known.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/understating-black-on-black-murders/
61   Patrick   2022 Jun 1, 9:33am  



Black people are the primary victims of black crime, simply because of proximity.
64   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Jun 18, 12:17pm  

Is there a way to run who has been attacking Asians over the past three years? Anecdotally it’s been blacks but the msm is hyper focused on those dastardly white supremecists.
65   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Jun 18, 12:24pm  

The supervisor from the Breanna Taylor matter was on …Sebastian Gorka. It’s long but very worth listening to.


original link


And surprise surprise, much like when Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman and Zimmerman was forced to use deadly force to defend himself, much like when Michael Brown attacked a cop in Ferguson, MO and the cop was forced to use deadly force to defend himself, the mainstream media pushed forth a narrative that was a complete falsification…everything from the alleged “victims” background to the details of the actual incident. The entirety was made up fairy tales concocted by the msm and pushed forward by BLM and lying Democrats.
66   Patrick   2022 Jul 5, 10:19am  

https://vdare.com/posts/his-name-is-clark-kelly-88-year-old-white-veterinarian-murdered-by-black-male-in-san-diego-robbery-gone-wrong


Those who dedicate their lives to helping others always end up being ultimately deprived of their lives. In this case, a “saint” at the age of 88, who loved helping animals and dedicating his life to benefiting other people, was murdered by a black male.

And it’s barely a story in San Diego. Were white privilege real, all we’d talk about nationally, not just in San Diego, would be the murder of an 88-year-old white male veterinarian by a black male.

Sadly, the silence around his murder is a reminder white privilege is a myth promoted by those adamant on dismantling what’s left of the United States of America. By telling non-whites their situation in life is based on what white people did in the past, and are doing in the present, they might act out in a rage so that certain white individuals have no future. Like Clark Kelly. RIP.
67   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 5, 10:33am  

Burn the coal, pay the toll.

There might be a reason why Black Women are such hardasses.
68   Patrick   2022 Jul 26, 3:20pm  

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/GiorgiaMeloni/status/1551107520848175105


How many more attacks and violence will we have to witness to admit that there is a huge security problem in Italy?
There is no more time to waste.


69   BayArea   2022 Jul 26, 4:51pm  

Patrick says

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/GiorgiaMeloni/status/1551107520848175105



How many more attacks and violence will we have to witness to admit that there is a huge security problem in Italy?
There is no more time to waste.





I wasn’t prepared for that. That was shocking disregard for life.
70   RC2006   2022 Jul 26, 5:15pm  

Every continent, same shit, same group.
73   HeadSet   2022 Jul 29, 10:41am  

In the case of Ethan Liming, a strong mitigating circumstance it that Ethan started the fight, by shooting water pellets at those guys playing basketball, and then pursuing and continuing to shoot at the players as they ran off.
75   stereotomy   2022 Jul 29, 1:39pm  

Between the clot shot, shutting down farming, unprosecuted hate crimes against whites, can we conclude that the WEF agenda for white people is extermination? At least extermination of the men, so that the remaining oligarchs can have their harems?
76   Patrick   2022 Sep 8, 10:15am  

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/MrAndyNgo/status/1567329827539062784#m



There is an epidemic of black violence against white people, but the media is silent about it.
78   AmericanKulak   2022 Sep 8, 10:23am  

stereotomy says

Between the clot shot, shutting down farming, unprosecuted hate crimes against whites, can we conclude that the WEF agenda for white people is extermination? At least extermination of the men, so that the remaining oligarchs can have their harems?

Don't forget the return of Eunichs via Trans Surgery and Hormones and Puberty Blockers.
79   Patrick   2022 Sep 8, 10:39am  


Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
Sep 6
Damien and Myles Sanderson went on a stabbing spree in Canada this weekend, killing 11 people. Myles had 59 previous convictions and yet was still free. It turns out that the only sure way to protect the public from violent crooks is to put them in prison. Banning guns wont do it

The parole board in February lamented that Myles had suffered systemic racism due to his indigenous background. They blamed his violence on "loss of culture/spirituality."

The only kind of "criminal justice reform" we should be talking about is the kind that puts guys like Myles behind bars and keeps them there

Will anyone on the parole board be held accountable for declaring this psychopath “not an undue risk to society,” despite having committed dozens of violent crimes at that point?

Michael Roberts 🇺🇲🏴‍☠️
@domestickterror
Sep 6
Replying to @MattWalshBlog
It's happening world wide. Here in New Zealand the "justice" system is being notoriously soft on indigenous offenders citing "culture reports"
80   Patrick   2022 Sep 8, 11:25am  




Wow, he somehow thinks Kyle shot at black people rather that at armed white pedophiles?

And he's sorry about the guy going to jail for shooting random people in the head?
81   richwicks   2022 Sep 8, 11:47am  

Patrick says


Wow, he somehow thinks Kyle shot at black people rather that at armed white pedophiles?

And he's sorry about the guy going to jail for shooting random people in the head?


A reminder of how poor our "news" media is. People who insist on listening to it, wouldn't, if they only recognized it was nothing but a pack of lies and propaganda.

He's a victim of brainwashing. A lot of people are. Hell, I'm certain everybody is.
82   Onvacation   2022 Sep 8, 11:52am  

Patrick says

. It turns out that the only sure way to protect the public from violent crooks is to put them in prison.

Or shoot them.
83   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Sep 8, 12:16pm  

Niggas doing Nigga things, hating and killing whites. Niggas got new tech called live streaming, and of course decided to livestream nigga behavior.

84   Patrick   2022 Sep 9, 2:55pm  




Not sure that the woman he beheaded is white, but it seems probable.

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