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Let's get it straight, Kathleen Kennedy, not Disney Inc, ruined Star Wars
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RC2006
2019 Dec 18, 5:55am
RC2006
2019 Dec 18, 5:55am
CovfefeButDeadly says
I'd usually agree, not with this turd.
54% from the critics probably means its fantastic
I'd usually agree, not with this turd.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 7:47am
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 7:47am
TrumpingTits says
I don't know but isn't Pixar holding up pretty well? I mean if it were 'Toy Story' followed by a complete bust then yeah, Disney is a loser caretaker.
Otherwise, for the most part, they're acting just like any other holding company out there but in their case, for entertainment venues instead of let's say software like the loser Computer Associates which does nothing but butcher companies left and right.
If you want a major loser for a holding company, look no further than a GE. If it were GE in place of Disney, I'd say 'yes' Disney ruined X, Y, and Z because GE would send in their goons to destroy the goods.
In this case, Disney simply honored Lucas's wish for retaining Kathleen Kennedy. It was Lucas's fault for allowing this to unfold.
happened elsewhere in the Disney empire.
I don't know but isn't Pixar holding up pretty well? I mean if it were 'Toy Story' followed by a complete bust then yeah, Disney is a loser caretaker.
Otherwise, for the most part, they're acting just like any other holding company out there but in their case, for entertainment venues instead of let's say software like the loser Computer Associates which does nothing but butcher companies left and right.
If you want a major loser for a holding company, look no further than a GE. If it were GE in place of Disney, I'd say 'yes' Disney ruined X, Y, and Z because GE would send in their goons to destroy the goods.
In this case, Disney simply honored Lucas's wish for retaining Kathleen Kennedy. It was Lucas's fault for allowing this to unfold.
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socal2
2019 Dec 18, 8:39am
RC2006 says
Probably right. But alot of the critics who don't like the new movie raved about the Last Jedi.
CovfefeButDeadly says54% from the critics probably means its fantastic
I'd usually agree, not with this turd.
Probably right. But alot of the critics who don't like the new movie raved about the Last Jedi.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 18, 8:46am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 18, 8:46am
They keep raising the price of tickets to offset the lack of attendance.
That is how they keep breaking Box Office records.
That is how they keep breaking Box Office records.
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Goran_K
2019 Dec 18, 8:49am
Goran_K
2019 Dec 18, 8:49am
Forbes: "Rise of Skywalker is WORST Star Wars film ever"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/12/18/review-disney-and-lucasfilms-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-a-terrible-end-to-the-skywalker-saga/?utm_source=FACEBOOK&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Valerie%2F&fbclid=IwAR08v-_gqaLKdza7UAvkqfvSLSwK3cmCgLKZcZbRckkfeES70tvRmXjc6YQ#359492d7113c
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/12/18/review-disney-and-lucasfilms-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-a-terrible-end-to-the-skywalker-saga/?utm_source=FACEBOOK&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Valerie%2F&fbclid=IwAR08v-_gqaLKdza7UAvkqfvSLSwK3cmCgLKZcZbRckkfeES70tvRmXjc6YQ#359492d7113c
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socal2
2019 Dec 18, 8:56am
Goran_K says
Reading his review gives me hope it will be better.
The reviewer seems mostly pissed that Abrams had to fix alot of the bullshit plot points in the last 2 movies and tries to tie it back to the original trilogy.
Forbes: "Rise of Skywalker is WORST Star Wars film ever"
Reading his review gives me hope it will be better.
The reviewer seems mostly pissed that Abrams had to fix alot of the bullshit plot points in the last 2 movies and tries to tie it back to the original trilogy.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:03am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:03am
Rin says
They paid well over $4B for the Franchise. So, when you consider production costs, marketing, etc... Disney probably hasn't broken even years after the purchase. They were hoping I'm sure for a lot more. We do know the Merch sales have been seriously underwhelming, to the point they even braved SJW screeching by removing the Asian chick from new imprints.
They wanted to get rid of Kennedy a long time ago, but can't because she's literally considered the top female Hollywood Executive right now.
Force Awakens, $2B worldwide gross
Rogue One, $1B worldwide gross
Last Jedi, $1.3B worldwide gross
They paid well over $4B for the Franchise. So, when you consider production costs, marketing, etc... Disney probably hasn't broken even years after the purchase. They were hoping I'm sure for a lot more. We do know the Merch sales have been seriously underwhelming, to the point they even braved SJW screeching by removing the Asian chick from new imprints.
They wanted to get rid of Kennedy a long time ago, but can't because she's literally considered the top female Hollywood Executive right now.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 9:11am
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 9:11am
NoCoupForYou says
They made $4B in a four year span.
In other words, if the deal was floated with bonds (which most companies use for M&As or for build outs like Verizon's Fiber network), they have more than enough to pay the bondholders, since they don't have to pay off everything upfront, with a lot leftover for general business operations. And yes, if Kennedy churns up to a $1B per year, it's highly unlikely that she'll be asked to leave.
The way out is for each SW film to be Solo-redux, a $300M+ dud which will promptly put Kathleen in the "See ya, don't want to be ya" pile.
So let's pray for the 'Rise of Skywalker' to be the greatest failure of all time!
They paid well over $4B for the Franchise. So, they've barely broken even. They were hoping I'm sure for a lot more.
They made $4B in a four year span.
In other words, if the deal was floated with bonds (which most companies use for M&As or for build outs like Verizon's Fiber network), they have more than enough to pay the bondholders, since they don't have to pay off everything upfront, with a lot leftover for general business operations. And yes, if Kennedy churns up to a $1B per year, it's highly unlikely that she'll be asked to leave.
The way out is for each SW film to be Solo-redux, a $300M+ dud which will promptly put Kathleen in the "See ya, don't want to be ya" pile.
So let's pray for the 'Rise of Skywalker' to be the greatest failure of all time!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:13am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:13am
Rin says
Gross, not including various costs.
I'm sure Disney isn't going to go bankrupt over Star Wars, but they certainly didn't make a killing on it, in fact I suspect they're way off from the amount they hoped to make.
Rin says
Sure looks that way!
Interesting female mentality: The male hero becomes better through training, suffering, adversity; the female heroine is innately perfect and the world simply needs to recognize it.
They made $4B in a four year span.
Gross, not including various costs.
I'm sure Disney isn't going to go bankrupt over Star Wars, but they certainly didn't make a killing on it, in fact I suspect they're way off from the amount they hoped to make.
Rin says
So let's pray for the 'Rise of Skywalker' to be the greatest failure of all time!
Sure looks that way!
Interesting female mentality: The male hero becomes better through training, suffering, adversity; the female heroine is innately perfect and the world simply needs to recognize it.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 18, 10:03am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 18, 10:03am
Shaman says
You then spend the next paragraph talking about Kylo Ren. But you still feel qualified to judge..
Kylo Ren killing Snoke is nothing new. Happened with almost every Sith pair, though Vader killing Palpatine was different motivation. Remember the Rule of Two. Which means Rey would have gone to the darkside had she agreed. Kylo was originally trained as Jedi, and his internal conflict is clear throughout the series(just like with Vader).
Again, don't see what was so hard to follow.
Example: Rey:
You then spend the next paragraph talking about Kylo Ren. But you still feel qualified to judge..
Kylo Ren killing Snoke is nothing new. Happened with almost every Sith pair, though Vader killing Palpatine was different motivation. Remember the Rule of Two. Which means Rey would have gone to the darkside had she agreed. Kylo was originally trained as Jedi, and his internal conflict is clear throughout the series(just like with Vader).
Again, don't see what was so hard to follow.
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Ceffer
2019 Dec 18, 10:48am
Ceffer
2019 Dec 18, 10:48am
Merchandising campaign: lesbos with purple hair dilding each other with kiddies' plastic light sabers.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Dec 18, 11:03am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Dec 18, 11:03am
But who hired and approved everything she did?
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 11:15am
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 11:15am
FortWayneIndiana says
First of all, the parent company does not manage the wholly owned subsidiary. Realize, this is not GE, where its bozo C-suite muck with anything they buy.
In other words, Disney's execs don't have to approve of any of her day to day actions w/o some prior clearance from them.
In effect, the board hired her under Lucas's guidance during the whole deal where he wanted to 'preserve the Star Wars' universe in return for the sale of the franchise.
The person who betrayed Lucas was Kennedy, not Disney's bean counters.
NoCoupForYou says
I think for the most part, they're ok with years 1 to 4 because in effect, they've seen a blockbuster per year till the Solo debacle. I mean one can't always expect the Marvel series mega blockbusters to reproduce itself in Star Wars and in the same way with multiple movies serials.
So here's the thing, let 'Rise of Skywalker' fail and then, we'll see a change at Lucasfilm's helm. Until then, all bets are off.
But who hired and approved everything she did?
First of all, the parent company does not manage the wholly owned subsidiary. Realize, this is not GE, where its bozo C-suite muck with anything they buy.
In other words, Disney's execs don't have to approve of any of her day to day actions w/o some prior clearance from them.
In effect, the board hired her under Lucas's guidance during the whole deal where he wanted to 'preserve the Star Wars' universe in return for the sale of the franchise.
The person who betrayed Lucas was Kennedy, not Disney's bean counters.
NoCoupForYou says
in fact I suspect they're way off from the amount they hoped to make.
I think for the most part, they're ok with years 1 to 4 because in effect, they've seen a blockbuster per year till the Solo debacle. I mean one can't always expect the Marvel series mega blockbusters to reproduce itself in Star Wars and in the same way with multiple movies serials.
So here's the thing, let 'Rise of Skywalker' fail and then, we'll see a change at Lucasfilm's helm. Until then, all bets are off.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 2:00pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 2:00pm
NuttBoxer says
Look, most people are like you: wouldn’t know the good from the bad if it smacked them in the face with its lady penis.
I happen to be cursed with a more literary bent, which means I’m always ruining perfectly popular movies for people with my snobbish insistence on character arcs, story telling, and consistence in basic physics. NuttBoxer says
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity) but still had to get their space bombers literally OVER the dreadnaught to DROP bombs that look like WWII era bombs onto it using the gravity that doesn’t exist? Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!
Fuck!
But you still feel qualified to judge..
Look, most people are like you: wouldn’t know the good from the bad if it smacked them in the face with its lady penis.
I happen to be cursed with a more literary bent, which means I’m always ruining perfectly popular movies for people with my snobbish insistence on character arcs, story telling, and consistence in basic physics. NuttBoxer says
Resistance takes down Drednaught(pretty cool),
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity) but still had to get their space bombers literally OVER the dreadnaught to DROP bombs that look like WWII era bombs onto it using the gravity that doesn’t exist? Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!
Fuck!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 2:25pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 2:25pm
Shaman says
Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!the story was written by lib art major millennial SJWs.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
Shaman says
First of all, the name 'Dreadnought' is already reminiscent of the huge battleships between the UK and Germany during the WWI (and II) eras and thus, the entire setup was to replay that whole bombing away of a supersized vessel in the absence of any localized gravity.
Yes, it was an anachronistic attempt at showing Poe to be a loose cannon, sacrificing lives in return for one sunken supersized Bismarck vessel.
NuttBoxer saysResistance takes down Drednaught(pretty cool),
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity) but still had to get their space bombers literally OVER the dreadnaught to DROP bombs that look like WWII era bombs onto it using the gravity that doesn’t exist? Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!
First of all, the name 'Dreadnought' is already reminiscent of the huge battleships between the UK and Germany during the WWI (and II) eras and thus, the entire setup was to replay that whole bombing away of a supersized vessel in the absence of any localized gravity.
Yes, it was an anachronistic attempt at showing Poe to be a loose cannon, sacrificing lives in return for one sunken supersized Bismarck vessel.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
I'm kind of with NuttB on this one. I think you guys are looking a bit too much into a movie. Enjoy it or don't. It's fiction. You can make up anything you want.
I get the SJW angle, but they're just trying to make a movie that will appeal to the largest audience. Men, even the one's bitching about the movie here, are already locked into Star Wars. You know you're going to watch this movie in some format and Disney will make money off it. If they can get women more interested in Star Wars, that's a shit load more money. Star Wars has never been about making GOOD movies if you're being objective. It's just business.
I get the SJW angle, but they're just trying to make a movie that will appeal to the largest audience. Men, even the one's bitching about the movie here, are already locked into Star Wars. You know you're going to watch this movie in some format and Disney will make money off it. If they can get women more interested in Star Wars, that's a shit load more money. Star Wars has never been about making GOOD movies if you're being objective. It's just business.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:42pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:42pm
WookieMan says
Nope, I can get the full summary from wikipedia and the highlights from someone making clips on the 'net, criticizing the segments. I will not watch this movie and thus, Disney Inc/Lucasfilm won't get a penny out of me.
You know you're going to watch this movie in some format
Nope, I can get the full summary from wikipedia and the highlights from someone making clips on the 'net, criticizing the segments. I will not watch this movie and thus, Disney Inc/Lucasfilm won't get a penny out of me.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:43pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:43pm
WookieMan says
That's why I want a Solo like failure to torpedo the Kathleen Kennedy Dreadnought.
It's just business.
That's why I want a Solo like failure to torpedo the Kathleen Kennedy Dreadnought.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 3:01pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 3:01pm
WookieMan says
One more time, there's not this 'they' in this fiasco.
It's a singular person with the name of Kathleen Kennedy. It's a 'she' and yes, 'she' thinks she can get more women interested in Star Wars by turning it into a Femi-Nazi/SJW propaganda piece than a Sci-Fi drama about plausibility and a hero's or heroine's journey.
If they
One more time, there's not this 'they' in this fiasco.
It's a singular person with the name of Kathleen Kennedy. It's a 'she' and yes, 'she' thinks she can get more women interested in Star Wars by turning it into a Femi-Nazi/SJW propaganda piece than a Sci-Fi drama about plausibility and a hero's or heroine's journey.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 4:44pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 4:44pm
Rin says
After the abortion of a film that last one was, i have lost what little interest in the series I ever had. It was always silly pulp fiction, more of a space western than anything else. But what made it WORK was Lucas’ strict adherence to Joseph Campbell’s “Hero’s Journey” story structure. It told an age old story of a young man’s quest for significance, to right a dystopian wrong, to battle oppression as he comes into his natural gifts through hard work and sacrifice, helped along with an older mentor. In the second original film, we learned that the great evil Luke was fighting was a product of his own origin story, that he would have to resist a generational ideology to seek the good...or accept it and lose all chance to change things for the better.
And the third was a story of redemption.
I actually liked the prequels, the third most of all because it showed how a passionate young man with boundless talent could be seduced with impossible choices into choosing the darkest evil over the noble...how blind adherence to fleeting cares could lead one to ultimate destruction.
It was a damned good story, if a bit dark. And it neatly set the stage for the original trilogy, making Luke’s journey all the more impactful as he worked to redeem his wayward father.
Compared to that sort of masterful storytelling, the last trilogy is a mashup mess, and not worth watching. The first one was long on nostalgia, short on the Hero’s Journey. Rey just appears and is perfect from the start. She don’t need training... she just is a master Jedi already as soon as she is told she is. So lame.
WookieMan saysYou know you're going to watch this movie in some format
Nope, I can get the full summary from wikipedia and the highlights from someone making clips on the 'net, criticizing the segments. I will not watch this movie and thus, Disney Inc/Lucasfilm won't get a penny out of me.
After the abortion of a film that last one was, i have lost what little interest in the series I ever had. It was always silly pulp fiction, more of a space western than anything else. But what made it WORK was Lucas’ strict adherence to Joseph Campbell’s “Hero’s Journey” story structure. It told an age old story of a young man’s quest for significance, to right a dystopian wrong, to battle oppression as he comes into his natural gifts through hard work and sacrifice, helped along with an older mentor. In the second original film, we learned that the great evil Luke was fighting was a product of his own origin story, that he would have to resist a generational ideology to seek the good...or accept it and lose all chance to change things for the better.
And the third was a story of redemption.
I actually liked the prequels, the third most of all because it showed how a passionate young man with boundless talent could be seduced with impossible choices into choosing the darkest evil over the noble...how blind adherence to fleeting cares could lead one to ultimate destruction.
It was a damned good story, if a bit dark. And it neatly set the stage for the original trilogy, making Luke’s journey all the more impactful as he worked to redeem his wayward father.
Compared to that sort of masterful storytelling, the last trilogy is a mashup mess, and not worth watching. The first one was long on nostalgia, short on the Hero’s Journey. Rey just appears and is perfect from the start. She don’t need training... she just is a master Jedi already as soon as she is told she is. So lame.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 4:57pm
WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 4:57pm
Then don't watch it. Not sure what else to say. It's likely to gross $1B worldwide like the others have. Kathleen Kennedy will likely not go anywhere (I'm not a supporter). They will still sell toys and Disneyland(world) tickets on the back of the movie to the tune of $120/pp to get into the theme park.
Lucasfilm will be like buying a $100k house today and it being worth $10M in 20 years. This is about money. No one in corporate cares about a storyline and most productions don't. They just hire the highest paid hunk or most titty inflated bad actress to star in their films. Movies have sucked for a decade now, maybe longer. I'm talking about everyone here, not just Disney. Movies suck. Netflix (Amazon, etc) type series' is where most the talent and good content has gone.
I'll see this one Monday afternoon with my kids and 6 beers (wife is driving). I'll give my honest report then.
Lucasfilm will be like buying a $100k house today and it being worth $10M in 20 years. This is about money. No one in corporate cares about a storyline and most productions don't. They just hire the highest paid hunk or most titty inflated bad actress to star in their films. Movies have sucked for a decade now, maybe longer. I'm talking about everyone here, not just Disney. Movies suck. Netflix (Amazon, etc) type series' is where most the talent and good content has gone.
I'll see this one Monday afternoon with my kids and 6 beers (wife is driving). I'll give my honest report then.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 5:14pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 5:14pm
WookieMan says
Solo didn't and that's my hope.
WookieMan says
Actually, toy sales have come nowhere close to either of the first two trilogies.
WookieMan says
See my point about Solo and why I hope for 'Rise of Skywalker' to replay.
WookieMan says
I like tits and Rey doesn't have 'em.
Let me show you how one makes money on tits ...
It's likely to gross $1B worldwide like the others have
Solo didn't and that's my hope.
WookieMan says
They will still sell toys
Actually, toy sales have come nowhere close to either of the first two trilogies.
WookieMan says
No one in corporate cares about a storyline
See my point about Solo and why I hope for 'Rise of Skywalker' to replay.
WookieMan says
titty inflated bad actress
I like tits and Rey doesn't have 'em.
Let me show you how one makes money on tits ...
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 19, 9:19am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 19, 9:19am
Shaman says
So you watch Star Wars expecting Kubrick's 2001!? I guess you also don't like Friday because it's not more like Boyz in da Hood? The comparison is ridiculous, and no critic would even attempt it. This is obviously just an excuse for you, and other bitter men to retaliate at a franchise because of your issues with women.
Go poke holes in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly for the unrealistic shooting scenes. Or Pulp Fiction for almost every scene. Totally unrealistic movies, so they must be trash..
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity)
So you watch Star Wars expecting Kubrick's 2001!? I guess you also don't like Friday because it's not more like Boyz in da Hood? The comparison is ridiculous, and no critic would even attempt it. This is obviously just an excuse for you, and other bitter men to retaliate at a franchise because of your issues with women.
Go poke holes in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly for the unrealistic shooting scenes. Or Pulp Fiction for almost every scene. Totally unrealistic movies, so they must be trash..
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2019 Dec 19, 10:32am
Who added gay shit into last episode? Is it still Kathleen Kennedy?
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Rin
2019 Dec 19, 7:53pm
Rin
2019 Dec 19, 7:53pm
WookieMan says
I wouldn't and that's because I'm not some 17 year old who's never laid pipe before.
Remember, I'd been with French-Canadian babes so my standards are a bit higher than some guy pining over a lost love back in school. I believe Rey is suppose to represent that college aged upstart.
Rin saysI like tits and Rey doesn't have 'em.
Would you not fuck her though??
I wouldn't and that's because I'm not some 17 year old who's never laid pipe before.
Remember, I'd been with French-Canadian babes so my standards are a bit higher than some guy pining over a lost love back in school. I believe Rey is suppose to represent that college aged upstart.
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steverbeaver
2019 Dec 19, 8:19pm
steverbeaver
2019 Dec 19, 8:19pm
Hmm. There's a thought. Instead of adding extra scenes years later they just enhance Rey's TnA. It might make a profit!
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socal2
2019 Dec 21, 9:19am
I saw the movie yesterday.
No spoilers.
I really enjoyed it and think It is easily the best of the new movies and prequels. It fixes alot of Rian Johnson's mess and the overall story arc makes sense and was satisfying to me. There was no overtly feminist or SJW shit that I could tell (geesh - low bar!). It was a really fun and fast moving movie. They could have made it into 2 movies.
No spoilers.
I really enjoyed it and think It is easily the best of the new movies and prequels. It fixes alot of Rian Johnson's mess and the overall story arc makes sense and was satisfying to me. There was no overtly feminist or SJW shit that I could tell (geesh - low bar!). It was a really fun and fast moving movie. They could have made it into 2 movies.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 21, 10:28am
Shaman
2019 Dec 21, 10:28am
Thanks for the review socal2.
Anyone else take the plunge? I really don’t trust paid critic reviewers. Bunch of sissy idiots.
Anyone else take the plunge? I really don’t trust paid critic reviewers. Bunch of sissy idiots.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Dec 21, 4:50pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Dec 21, 4:50pm
socal2 says
Is it true they had homosexual scene at the end with women kissing?
I saw the movie yesterday.
No spoilers.
I really enjoyed it and think It is easily the best of the new movies and prequels. It fixes alot of Rian Johnson's mess and the overall story arc makes sense and was satisfying to me. There was no overtly feminist or SJW shit that I could tell (geesh - low bar!). It was a really fun and fast moving movie. They could have made it into 2 movies.
Is it true they had homosexual scene at the end with women kissing?
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Rin
2019 Dec 23, 7:00pm
Rin
2019 Dec 23, 7:00pm
Ok, opening weekend is over and it's grossed some ~$376M worldwide.
In other words, it's not a flop and Kathleen Kennedy gets to keep her job.
In other words, it's not a flop and Kathleen Kennedy gets to keep her job.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 24, 8:07am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 24, 8:07am
FortWayneIndiana says
Yes. It was literally a flash though. Probably under a second and I could not make out who it was.
Saw it yesterday with my boys and that was the one take away where I was like WTF with regard to FW's quote above. That said, Star Wars has always been glorified and the movies are average at best. This one is the same. You'll be entertained and if you want to find the negatives that suite your beliefs you might be able to find them. I didn't notice overtly SJW type stuff as socal2 mentions. Solid, entertaining movie to burn time over xmas break if you have it.
I'll have to watch it again in the comfort of my own home to get a final ruling on it. Anyone here have a home theater? Was looking into upgrading the sound to Atmos, wasn't sure if it was worth it. I hate public theaters and have only been to one or two Atmos theaters. So don't have much experience with it. Was looking for a 5.2.4 setup if anyone has something similar or any other suggestions.
Is it true they had homosexual scene at the end with women kissing?
Yes. It was literally a flash though. Probably under a second and I could not make out who it was.
Saw it yesterday with my boys and that was the one take away where I was like WTF with regard to FW's quote above. That said, Star Wars has always been glorified and the movies are average at best. This one is the same. You'll be entertained and if you want to find the negatives that suite your beliefs you might be able to find them. I didn't notice overtly SJW type stuff as socal2 mentions. Solid, entertaining movie to burn time over xmas break if you have it.
I'll have to watch it again in the comfort of my own home to get a final ruling on it. Anyone here have a home theater? Was looking into upgrading the sound to Atmos, wasn't sure if it was worth it. I hate public theaters and have only been to one or two Atmos theaters. So don't have much experience with it. Was looking for a 5.2.4 setup if anyone has something similar or any other suggestions.
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RC2006
2019 Dec 24, 10:16am
RC2006
2019 Dec 24, 10:16am
I saw it and it was the best one of this trilogy for what its worth. Rotten tomatoes critic vs user review just show how most critics are liberals.
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Rin
2019 Dec 28, 5:40pm
Rin
2019 Dec 28, 5:40pm
Ok, as of this weekend, 'Rise of Skywalker' is almost at ~$600M globally and it's not petering out, if you look at this chart ...
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Wars-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-(2019)#tab=box-office
For all intensive purpose, this film is a hit and will secure Kathleen Kennedy's spot at the helm.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Wars-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-(2019)#tab=box-office
For all intensive purpose, this film is a hit and will secure Kathleen Kennedy's spot at the helm.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 28, 7:31pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 28, 7:31pm
It’s almost like the film opened modestly with a lot of fans on the fence about seeing it. Then, after reports that JJ Abrams fixed it and the SJW stuff is gone, the fans are finally getting around to seeing it.
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Patrick
2019 Dec 28, 7:41pm
Patrick
2019 Dec 28, 7:41pm
I just don't want to be preached at or manipulated if I'm paying to see a movie.
Paying should mean that I'm the customer, not merely another target for indoctrination.
Hollywood won't stop with this kind of crap until people refuse to pay.
Paying should mean that I'm the customer, not merely another target for indoctrination.
Hollywood won't stop with this kind of crap until people refuse to pay.
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Rin
2019 Dec 28, 7:55pm
Rin
2019 Dec 28, 7:55pm
Patrick says
Pat, it's too late. Somehow, someway, ppl bought into the return of Palpatine and a completely unbelievable story line, after the fiasco which was 'The Last Jedi'.
I've gotten enough spoiler info to reconstruct the entire 'Rise of Skywalker' w/o giving Kathleen Kennedy a penny. The story is retarded and basically, tosses the closure of 'Return of the Jedi' into the gutter forever, making all of the prior Star War movies, meaningless.
Hollywood won't stop with this kind of crap until people refuse to pay.
Pat, it's too late. Somehow, someway, ppl bought into the return of Palpatine and a completely unbelievable story line, after the fiasco which was 'The Last Jedi'.
I've gotten enough spoiler info to reconstruct the entire 'Rise of Skywalker' w/o giving Kathleen Kennedy a penny. The story is retarded and basically, tosses the closure of 'Return of the Jedi' into the gutter forever, making all of the prior Star War movies, meaningless.
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Sorry, that's just not the case. This is not the C-suite vs humanity epic battle of wits. This is one nasty, men-hating bitch, Kathleen Kennedy and her cronies vs humanity.
What happened was that Lucas mistakenly took Kathleen to be a friend/ally .... however, instead, little did he know but his protege, who was with Lucasfilm since the time of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' and 'Return of the Jedi' was a snake in the grass, a Femi-Nazi Manchurian candidate of a Palpatine-like nature. Yes, Lucas handed the franchise over to her and Disney simply allowed Lucasfilm to run as a wholly owned subsidiary under Lucas's hand chosen successor.
As long as the franchise made money, Disney's executives gave carte blanche to Kathleen Kennedy.
So let's stop with the Disney bashing. For all intensive purposes, they did the right thing. Let Lucasfilm run itself and it can make money for the parent company w/o needing to micromanage the organization.