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In 2003, it was the right that couldn't meme, because they were in a carefully constructed denial of reality, like Saddam Hussein really did have a weapons of mass destruction, and we couldn't wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

Jon Stewart became rich and famous making fun of Fox news just LYING constantly, and the Bush administration LYING constantly.

Notice Jon Stewart left when a black clone of George W. Bush that took some diction classes replaced him, and did exactly the same thing.

The group that "can meme" is the group telling the truth. Today, the democratic establishment are the group of complete liars. That won't last forever.

There’s a step further.....they don’t relate to others and won’t actually change opinion when proven wrong.

I’ve had a couple arguments recently with others that are neither Republican nor democrat arguments.

The first one is that the governor of CA and other political leaders in CA should have known they only had a finite amount of time before people started breaking the shutdown in such large numbers that they wouldn’t be able to enforce the shutdown any longer. That has now happened...took about six weeks. One very wrong Democrat and establishment supporting friend cannot wrap her head around this. No acknowledgement whatsoever that it was foreseeable this would happen. Only continued insistence that people need to follow orders and they’re gonna make corona worse. It’s blind stupidity. The person isn’t actually dumb. She was born with more capacity for intelligence than I am. But she doesn’t understand human nature in any way shape or form.

The other is the continued insistence that the corona crisis was caused by President Trump. It’s a line parroted by leftist propaganda media in many opinion pieces. It’s not true and easily disproveable, mostly because Dr Fauci made multiple public statements in January and February that the US had nothing to be concerned about.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/saraaca...ed-states/amp/

“This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” Dr. Fauci told Newsmax’s Greg Kelly on January 21.

Dr. Fauci has backtracked on his original message. He now says the U.S. has yet to receive the worst of the COVID-19 outbreak. He has even encouraged a national shutdown after telling NBC in late February that Americans should go about their normal lifestyles.

Dr. Fauci has been the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984, serving under every U.S. President since Ronald Reagan.

I have yet to find one person who believes in this fairy tale of Trumps inaction leading to disaster in the US willing to admit they are wrong.

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The fact that liberals aren't constantly telling you the right can't meme, tells you you everything you need to know about which side is the most arrogant and the most dishonest with themselves.I might think your memes are stupid, and reflect poorly on you, but I'm not going to incessantly tell you that you don't know how to do it.

Because it was never for an instant questioned that you were communicating with like minded morons. I always felt that pretty much went without saying.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

The person isn’t actually dumb. She was born with more capacity for intelligence than I am. But she doesn’t understand human nature in any way shape or form.

The NPC character sheet has distinctly separate Intelligence and Wisdom scores to fill in. While the NPC may have high intelligence, a defining characteristic is low wisdom. They also suffer a -6 penalty to saving throw vs propaganda.

jazz_music says

And the memes are mostly silly lies that ironically makes y’all feel good. Many attacks are nothing at all except silliness. Ok so feel good, life is good. Funny lies are great because you have a whole group high fiving the opponent as deserving unfair attack. Boom.

NoCoupForYou says

Humorless Prigs have a hard time being funny, and virtue signaling requires a long drawn out explanation of who is oppressed and who isn't that precludes humor

jazz_music says

Punishment simply schoolyard style punishment for being the “other.”

Also, everybody gets shit in school. Maybe some got more than others. Humbug over it ain't grounds to hate normies or the basis for political ideology. Forgiveness is some powerful shit, think about it.

Now this is humorous:

Karloff says

The NPC character sheet has distinctly separate Intelligence and Wisdom scores to fill in. While the NPC may have high intelligence, a defining characteristic is low wisdom. They also suffer a -6 penalty to saving throw vs propaganda.

The "carefully constructed denial of reality" seems correct.

The false basis for the Iraq war is a good example. It was a lie, and most people suspected it was a lie, but they wanted to attack someone and the actual murders being Saudis made that difficult. So a carefully constructed denial of reality was used to make secular Iraq take punishment which should have rightly been imposed on The Islamic Dictatorship of Saudi Arabia. And it was difficult for the political right to meme about this, lest the lie be exposed.

Now it is the media, academia, and the Democratic Party which have been carefully constructing various denials of reality, and viciously attacking anyone who dares to point out the truth. The political left can't meme because they have to consult their victimization handbooks and look over their shoulders to make sure the PC police are OK with their memes. And those PC police just have no sense of humor at all.

The right, on the other hand, now has carte blanche to come up with whatever pithy and biting meme they like without worrying about the PC police at all, or about contradicting a web of lies.

So memes from the right these days are like guerrilla warfare, hit and run without worrying about centralized authority, or keeping straight lines while attacking, etc. Meme creators on the right can just go for it! That's a ton of fun, and very effective psychologically.

The reason the conservative memes work is because everyone knows they are true at some level. Examples:

marcus says

never for an instant questioned that you were communicating with like minded morons.

Just because!

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The fact that liberals aren't constantly telling you the right can't meme, tells you you everything you need to know about which side is the most arrogant and the most dishonest with themselves.I might think your memes are stupid, and reflect poorly on you, but I'm not going to incessantly tell you that you don't know how to do it.

Because it was never for an instant questioned that you were communicating with like minded morons. I always felt that pretty much went without saying.

Did President Trump incorrectly delay action on the corona virus?

If yes, when should he have gone against dr Fauci’s advice and what action should he have taken.

Not expecting cogent answers.

Onvacation says

Not expecting cogent answers.

I’m expecting links to opinion pieces. That’s the standard.

jazz_music says

It's not at all cute, the right wing is a huge embarrassment to itself continually too, especially their asinine leader.

It's people like you whining that we don't have yet another Neocon as president that starts a new war once the CIA is done with a false flag operation.

1 attack on a Saudi Arabian oil facility blamed on Iran, 2 limpet mine attacks blamed on Iran. Here, you want a laugh? See the comments section of this "proof" that Iran attacked oil tankers with limpet mines:

www.youtube.com/embed/WFcjzKAcC-c

Read the comments. You are the one that still believes this BS and want to go to yet another war.

Our previous 4 "presidential" meat puppets would have gone to war by now. Clinton would have, so would Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bob Dole. They aren't real presidents and they weren't running for that position - they were running for the position of pretend marionette. It was the "republican base" that first realized that our przdidents are all meat puppets, and took a shot at an unknown, who has so far, kept us out of war and openly points out our intelligence agencies are liars because they obviously are.

I would have never guessed it in 2004, but it turns out the Republican base was the first to wake up to the utter corruption of the government, the intelligence agencies, the leadership of both parties, and the propaganda that laughably calls itself "a free press". They realize this - you don't apparently. You will in time, but it might take some additional time. People like you should have woken up first - find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet, that many "liberals" PROPERLY protested over?

jazz_music says

It won’t even embarrass them

that explains left a lot of the left:

why wearing rainbows as an adult is not embarrassing to them.
why left pretends that looking for hand outs is not embarrassing, but somehow work is embarrassing.
why men on the left dress like women without understanding why they should be embarrassed.
why left thinks its not embarrassing to ask for others to pay for them.
why being a whiny baby is not embarrassing.
why men fucking men is not embarrassed.
why they think identity politics don't make them look dumb.
why being a worthless pedophile is just a gender identity and is not emberassing.

this list can go really far, honestly all the loser behavior on the left up there to list.

richwicks says

I would have never guessed it in 2004, but it turns out the Republican base was the first to wake up to the utter corruption of the government, the intelligence agencies, the leadership of both parties, and the propaganda that laughably calls itself "a free press".

That begs the question, is Trump for real? Or just the reality show actor with a history of womanizing hired to lose to Hillary?

Onvacation says

richwicks says

I would have never guessed it in 2004, but it turns out the Republican base was the first to wake up to the utter corruption of the government, the intelligence agencies, the leadership of both parties, and the propaganda that laughably calls itself "a free press".

That begs the question, is Trump for real? Or just the reality show actor with a history of womanizing hired to lose to Hillary?

If Trump isn't for real, well, at least he's no worse than Hillary Clinton and hasn't begun a new war.

Some jerkoff carnival barker didn't make it to the Oval Office without some support though. I just don't know if the support was from the same people that selected that disgusting murderous pig Hillary Clinton.

www.youtube.com/embed/6DXDU48RHLU

Time will tell. I have hope he works for a different team, but I'm far from certain that he does. He may be just ushering in a new fascism. It's better than communism though, at least the trains run on time.

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Patrick says

The right, on the other hand, now has carte blanche to come up with whatever pithy and biting meme they like without worrying about the PC police at all, or about contradicting a web of lies.

No

The glaring difference is the left wing memes are not lies and fantasies for the sake of dry humor.

Look at them!

Self-congratulatory fantasies for being such a sucker for billions of dollars yearly for right-wing media designed to make you feel proud to neutralize yourself as an effective member of an electorate. Laugh that off!!!

It's not at all cute, the right wing is a huge embarrassment to itself continually too, especially their asinine leader.

Esteemed patrick.net user jazz, left wing memes are for the most part just sadly parroted talking points written up by our owners. No creativity, no willingness to push boundaries and make people a bit uncomfortable.

Most of the media is utterly owned by the political left, not the right. Fox News barely counts as journalism, sadly.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Did President Trump incorrectly delay action on the corona virus?

I was responding to a post and hread about how the left can't meme. Not sure what conversation you're in.

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No creativity, no willingness to push boundaries and make people a bit uncomfortable.

Jazz is right the truth should make you uncomfortable, and the idea that Trump doesn't represent the oligarchs is indeed the most bizarre aspect of your supposed view.

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You don’t even know why that is stupid.
“We” is a collectivist term. It implies conformity and shared destiny in whatever the group decides.
“Me” implies self-determination and individualism. If the “we”s are trying to subjugate the “me”s then we have a problem.
And they are and we do.

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This is just Leftards putting their sick fantasies in a comic that makes a jab at Trump trying to make peace with the dictator of NKo.
I guess they’d rather have war.

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And this is just wrong on every level. No, the government doesn’t like the KKK. And no, neither does Trump. And no, the MAGA movement has nothing to do with Hate. If we hate something it is how poorly the Democrats and the Clerisy have run the country.

marcus says

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Did President Trump incorrectly delay action on the corona virus?

I was responding to a post and hread about how the left can't meme. Not sure what conversation you're in.

Lol.

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Where are the flags? If this "meme" were accurate one side would proudly be flying the US flag while the other side would have Palestinian, Mexican, and a couple hammer and sickle flags flying.

Patrick says

Esteemed patrick.net user jazz, left wing memes are for the most part just sadly parroted talking points written up by our owners. No creativity, no willingness to push boundaries and make people a bit uncomfortable.

The left, could CERTAINLY meme. You just don't remember it.











It's not left or right, it's whose lying and who isn't. I am fully aware that Obama was lying. So was Bush. This isn't a left and right issue. Obama was a clone of Bush with a great tan after a diction class. He wasn't at all different.

The people who unreasonably hate Trump and are complaining that Clinton, that warmonger, isn't president - they are wrong. Those people can't meme, because they are lying. That's the only reason they can't.

The only reason you laugh at the memes of the current right is because you have a dark sense of humor. It's absolutely monstrous what the left is currently doing. They tried to do a coup - but it is not the left, it's the establishment. If Jeb Bush was prezdident, there would have been no coup attempt, because Jeb Bush is completely controlled. He was a puppet. Just as Mitt Romney was, just like everybody else that was running on the Republican ticket in 2016.

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Where are the flags? If this "meme" were accurate one side would proudly be flying the US flag while the other side would have Palestinian, Mexican, and a couple hammer and sickle flags flying.

You should side with the Palestinians or at least have some sympathy for them.

Israel is a nuclear power with a military and an airforce that kills more people in a single airstrike than Gaza and the West Bank does in a decade. The Palestinians have rocks, maybe the occasional bomb, and a pathetic "rocket" that is literally powered by urea. They lost their property and are continuing to lose it.

When is the last time the West bank attempted to fight back against Israel in any way? A decade and 1/2, yet Israel continues to expand settlements in the West Bank. The Palestinians are being driven out, and those that can't be driven out will be placed on reservations or simply exterminated. It's clear Israel plans to take over the entire West Bank and probably Gaza as well. This can be the only possible reason why Israel won't draw their borders. If Israel wants a two state solution, they have the military power to do it. They want a one state solution, controlled by a solid Jewish majority. The Palestinians just happened to be there - they are in their way.

If a section of the United States was declared to be the new Israel, and they began to drive out the people of the area, would you fault the people driven out for resisting? This isn't a conflict over religion, it's a conflict over land. The Palestinians aren't being unreasonable, but it's clear they are going to lose. Any of them who are like me, would have given up decades ago. The Palestinians will lose. I'm not a fanatic. I know when I'm fighting a lost cause, what remains - doesn't realize it.

And just to be super clear, we are told Israeli settlements (which are EXCLUSIVELY Jewish) are there for protection. Look at where they are located:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:West_Bank_Access_Restrictions.pdf

They aren't buffer zones, they are in all over the West Bank and will expand in time to take it all up. Israel's government lies when they say they want a 2 state solution. They've been lying for 70 years.

richwicks says

Israel is a nuclear power with a military and an airforce that kills more people in a single airstrike than Gaza and the West Bank does in a decade. The Palestinians have rocks, maybe the occasional bomb, and a pathetic "rocket" that is literally powered by urea. They lost their property and are continuing to lose it.

You're forgetting the bus bombings, random stabbings, pizzeria detonations, hijackings, etc. of the past 50 years.

The reward for Israel withdrawing from Gaza unilaterally and making it, for the first time in 2000 years, 100% Jew Free, was constant rocket attacks.

Fakestinians didn't lose property. The vast majority were landless peasants sharecropping for Turkish landlords, and most of the rest came to Israel to work for the large number of works Jews built in the early 20th Century. ALL Travelers to 19th Century Israel reported an almost totally depopulated wasteland, including no less than Mark Twain.

Palestinian before 1960 referred to Jews only. "Palestinians" called themselves Arabs. The real Arabs, the Bedouin, support Israel, in fact the 3rd Colonel was a Bedouin, the true Desert, Camel Riding Arabs that Town Arabs hate.

Palestinians were given 3/4 of the Mandate of Palestine - it's called Jordan. The other 1/4 the Jews offered to split in half again, meaning the Jews would only get 1/8th of Palestine, but the Arabs rejected and invaded from every side.



Losing wars has consequences, as does rejecting every single Peace deal in history.

If Spaniards were firing urea-rockets into France, day after day after day, nobody would blame France for dropping a bomb every few weeks on a launch site.

And finally, strength discrepancy != justice. If 1 Knife wielding Thug is shot 5 times by 20 cops, it doesn't mean the cops are bad because they have 9mm Pistols.

I have plenty of pictures of all the Pizzerias, malls, cell phones, leather jackets, and abundant dates, candies, and knafeh on sale in Gaza, the alleged Open Air Prison, if you want. It even had a water park, until Palestinian Islamic Jihad bombed it because they didn't like mixed sex bathing.

richwicks says

And just to be super clear, we are told Israeli settlements (which are EXCLUSIVELY Jewish) are there for protection. Look at where they are located:

All settlements in Gaza were disbanded and the occupants unilaterally removed - by Israel.

The settlements in the West Bank are areas where Jews have proven Title, areas where the Arab Legion expelled Jews from in 1948. It is a reconquest of stolen territory.

it is, after all, Jew-rusalem, not Arabsalem, in the province of Jew-dea, not Arab-dea. Arab Supremacists continue to occupy Phoenicia, Kurdistan, Egypt (Copts), and the Maghreb (Berbers). God bless the Druze if Arabs ever conquer Israel, that Mountain People depend on Israel so they aren't exterminated. The Bah'hai religion also, which is banned in almost all Arab Countries, including Iraq.

Palestine is a Roman Neologism, imposed on Israel after a revolt, just like Dacia was renamed "Roman-ia" after a revolt from that province by the Roman Empire.

Arabs are imperialist colonizers from the Hedjaz, like everywhere else North of Jeddah.

Fakestinians are also the only people in the world not treated like all other refugees, they have their own unique Refugee Agency and are not subject to the same rules as other refugees.

For example, a Hutu refugee living in Kenya and obtaining Kenyan residency is no longer considered a refugee. An Arab who was kicked out of Israel after waging guerilla warfare from his village is a refugee, as is his children and grandchildren, even if they are Citizens of Jordan and the UK and own property in both countries.

For example, both Rashida Taliban and Linda Cockroach are refugees, as is the latter's children, though they have never set foot in Fakestine, and indeed her parents weren't even born in there, but in Jordan.

The vile Carter let all the Cockroaches in. They all got cash from the UN and Jordan, while getting US Taxpayer student aid and welfare both, they took over the married student housing and used the cash grants from the UN to buy houses while living free on campus on US taxpayer money while getting UN cash on top of US Welfare. That is why so many "Impoverished" Palestinians that came in the late 70s own 3-4 properties.

No Karen Tribesman born in Thailand, to somebody born in India, is considered still a refugee from Burma, even when they have Thai and US citizenship, owning property in both Bangkok and LA - but Palestinians are never-ending refugees.

Finally, the Oppressed Palestinians are some of the most obese people in the world.

In fact, the average Palestinian woman is 30% more likely to be fat than an American woman.

Stunning, when you consider the average Palestinian is under 30 years old.

KGB Code Name Aref, an Egyptian Socialist born in Cairo, was selected to form the PLO, KGB Code Name "Big Farm" in 1964.

This Egyptian native-to-Cairo's name? Yassir Arafat.

The PLO recognized Egypt's total control of Gaza and Jordan's control of the West Bank & Jerusalem in their founding documents. That is, the Palestinians claiming that West Bank is theirs, they did not recognize in 1964 - they want all of Israel, to make sure Islam is not humiliated by having to return land to Jews.

Jordan only dropped their claim to the West Bank as being part and parcel of Jordan in 1982. From annexation in 1947, through it's loss in 1967, right up to the early 80s, Jordan did NOT consider the West Bank to belong to a "Palestinian Nation". Because Jordan IS the Palestinian Arab Nation.

The PFLP was "Little Farm".

TL;DR: After abandoning the Cuba BS, then the Venezuela BS, the Left's last outpost of fake oppression is Fakestine.

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There are exactly two things that matter most about this conflict:

1) If Arab states lay down their arms, there is no conflict
2) If Israel lays down her arms, there is no Israel

It's as simple as that.

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mostly_reader says

It's as simple as that.

True.

Another question: How do you occupy the territory of a country that never Existed?