patrick.net

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/37percent-of-real-estate-agents-in-the-us-couldnt-afford-to-pay-their-rent-in-october-—-another-bad-sign-for-the-housing-market-here-are-3-key-takeaways-for-sellers-right-now/ar-AA148gt9

37% of real estate agents in the US couldn't afford to pay their rent in October

Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.

DD214 says

Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.

flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price

Nice thought however your % may be less than what they can game you for.

Car sales, furniture sales, - as a consumer your goal is to get the item at the least possible cost and as a commission earner your goal is to make as much money as you can for yourself even it that means being unethical, not that such a thing would ever occur

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

master negotiator skill

Master Negotiator vs Unethical Pathologically Lying Sales Person.

I will go with the latter option to win

DD214 says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

master negotiator skill

Unethical Pathologically Lying Sales Person.

I will go with the latter option to win

A real estate agent once told me, "I didn't create the system". I guess this is how he justified his actions. In this business, most of it is lying/rip off/fraud and this is what is distinct about it.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

lip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

Why do that? Just say you will not buy the house unless the price comes down to X. Then each realtor is looking at either 3% of the lower price or nothing.

A colostomy bag is worse than a realtor.
They both are shitty, but You can get rid of a realtor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/zy1r88/lost_all_on_the_market_i_work_real_estate_both/

The commentary is priceless!

HeadSet says

I respect a woman who supports herself by being a stripper more than I respect a woman on welfare.

Explain further please?

GNL says

Explain further please?

I thought the meaning was obvious. A woman who falls on hard times but pulls herself up even with "demeaning" jobs like stripper, Keno Writer, sewer cleaner and the like, is more deserving of respect that a woman who uses her child as a meal ticket for an idle life.

HeadSet says

GNL says

Explain further please?

I thought the meaning was obvious. A woman who falls on hard times but pulls herself up even with "demeaning" jobs like stripper, Keno Writer, sewer cleaner and the like, is more deserving of respect that a woman who uses her child as a meal ticket for an idle life.

1,000%. I'm an angry dude, but I HATE my SIL. I'll be cordial with her unless she gets out of line. She did one time and I physically had to put her in her place. Love my nephew, but she gets free food, rent support, child support, dependent tax write offs, etc. She knows the game. AND we take care of her kid. I'm glad we're able. But 6 fucking DUI's.

Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven. In 24 years or so of having a license, ZERO DUI's. Two speeding tickets when I was young and dumb. 16 and 18. I can't comprehend how a person can get 6 DUI's. Then gets child support from the government because baby daddy is in prison. She makes up for her fuck ups by spending $150 on a pair of Jordans for a kid that will wear them for a year. I wish I had knocked her ass out in the aforementioned physical altercation.

WookieMan says

Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven.

Don't drink and drive.

If you killed somebody, you'll want to kill yourself. Just don't bother with it. Sleep it off in the car, or take a taxi, or walk. Imagine if you caused an accident, or even were just involved with an accident that wasn't your fault, and a child died? If you're intoxicated, you're fucked either way, and even if the accident isn't your fault, you could have possibly prevented it if you were sober.

GNL says

HeadSet says

I respect a woman who supports herself by being a stripper more than I respect a woman on welfare.

Explain further please?

Explanation? Or illustration?

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

DD214 says

Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.

flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

Can you explain this in more detail please?

HeadSet says

GNL says

Explain further please?

I thought the meaning was obvious. A woman who falls on hard times but pulls herself up even with "demeaning" jobs like stripper, Keno Writer, sewer cleaner and the like, is more deserving of respect that a woman who uses her child as a meal ticket for an idle life.

I meant to ask that to comment #40.

richwicks says

WookieMan says

Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven.

Don't drink and drive.

If you killed somebody, you'll want to kill yourself. Just don't bother with it. Sleep it off in the car, or take a taxi, or walk. Imagine if you caused an accident, or even were just involved with an accident that wasn't your fault, and a child died? If you're intoxicated, you're fucked either way, and even if the accident isn't your fault, you could have possibly prevented it if you were sober.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

GNL says

richwicks says

WookieMan says

Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven.

Don't drink and drive.

If you killed somebody, you'll want to kill yourself. Just don't bother with it. Sleep it off in the car, or take a taxi, or walk. Imagine if you caused an accident, or even were just involved with an accident that wasn't your fault, and a child died? If you're intoxicated, you're fucked either way, and even if the accident isn't your fault, you could have possibly prevented it if you were sober.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I meant to ask that to comment #40.

GNL says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

DD214 says

Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.

flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

Can you explain this in more detail please?

I think they mean that if they are using a buyer's agent, their buyer's agent realtor's commission should be based on how much of a discount they can get instead of a set % of the sales price.

A back stabbing GOP leader.

GNL says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

DD214 says

Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.

flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

Can you explain this in more detail please?

sure.

works if selling agent is a greedy bastard motivated by commission. easy to find out in conversation.

they get 2-3% commission as buyer agent. common in CA is 3/2 split lately. or 4.5 if they represent both sides. offer them higher % on anything saved over target price being top commission so they will be incentivised by you.

for example its listed at 220k. if you offer barely a 6% cash commission on saved from list price and you get it for 190, saving you 30k (minus 6% of 30k to pay out upon sale).

richwicks says

Don't drink and drive.

Everyone does. Not justifying it. It's fact. No one here being honest can stay they haven't drank and driven a car. Could be one drink and they leave 4 hours later and are 100% sober. Everyone that is cool drinking has drove with alcohol in them.

Unless you're full blow sobriety, you drink and drive. You can tell me you don't and I won't believe you. It would be a lie.

Got pulled over twice while drunk when I was in my 20s. Got let go both times. I had the same line both times. Can you guess what I told the officer to get him to let me go?

The second time was a real wake up call, I don’t do that anymore. Not more than one drink anyways and that with dinner. Mostly, these days, I don’t drink.

I've known a few VERY BAD real estate agents, as well as attorneys. Have you ever met an attorney that won't twist the truth, lie and connive in order to 'win' their case?
It happens all the time.

Believe it or not, I've known some honest real estate agents. I've also known a few (very few) honest attorneys, which, IMO, is even more shocking.

Patrick had a thread that stated that there are Doctors out there that will kill you if they can make money off of that. And guess what, there are Doctors out there that will
kill an innocent baby as it emerges from the womb ... all for MONEY.

Human nature is sinful ... and sin permeates into every single area of life.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

for example its listed at 220k. if you offer barely a 6% cash commission on saved from list price and you get it for 190, saving you 30k (minus 6% of 30k to pay out upon sale).

So, you still pay $218,200?

6% of $30k is about $1,800. $220k - $1,800 = $218.2k.

Is that what you're saying?

Shaman says

I had the same line both times. Can you guess what I told the officer to get him to let me go?

Did you offer to blow him?

Shaman says

Can you guess what I told the officer to get him to let me go?

I’m not strunk ossifer, I only had tee martoonies?

https://www.bubbleinfo.com/2022/12/22/realtor-lawsuits/

I have to answer this "What is worse then a Realtor?"

A government employee is worse. Every. Single. One.

From the Department of Motor Vehicles, right up to an intelligence officer from any of the Alphabet agencies.

These are all NPC robots and they are dangerous and insane. I think ultimately, it's the Federal Reserve central bank that controls them, but they have no convictions or principles, they just follow orders. From teaching children critical race theory, to overthrowing elections.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/guess-gets-blamed-home-buyers-103000469.html

Guess who gets blamed when home buyers believe they’ve paid too much?

Buyer’s remorse is likely to take on a more sinister turn in the coming months, as people who purchased their houses at the top of the market take out their frustrations on their real estate agents.

zzyzzx says

Buyer’s remorse is likely to take on a more sinister turn in the coming months, as people who purchased their houses at the top of the market take out their frustrations on their real estate agents.

The realtors could not care less about disgruntled fools once the commission check is cashed. Those same buyers will call a realtor when they want to sell those same houses in the future.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/10epbfu/what_are_some_ways_real_estate_agents_screw_with/

What are some ways real estate agents screw with you?

zzyzzx says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/guess-gets-blamed-home-buyers-103000469.html

Guess who gets blamed when home buyers believe they’ve paid too much?

Buyer’s remorse is likely to take on a more sinister turn in the coming months, as people who purchased their houses at the top of the market take out their frustrations on their real estate agents.

This is not as black and white situation. Buyers lost equity on their purchase. At the same time, they’ve likely locked 2.5-3.5% mortgage rates vs. 6.5% now. Their mortgage payments are probably lower compared to buying now with the higher mortgage rates. Not all is lost at the moment.

HeadSet says

The realtors could not care less about disgruntled fools once the commission check is cashed.

Couldn't this same thing be said about most salesmen?

Government is to blame for almost everything you can think of. In the case of real estate, a very good argument can be made that the NAR is a monopoly. Also, it's regulations that have made real estate so expensive and out of sight for more and more people. Well, regulations and government fiscal policy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/112d02h/my_real_estate_agent_competed_with_me_while/

My Real estate agent competed with me while representing me

My agent competed with me while representing me and submitted a higher offer, purchased the house and living in it. I just found out about it 6 months after it has happened. What can I do about it?

Do I have enough grounds to sue him?

It gets interesting, I was already in contract with the seller. After my agent submitted the higher offer, the seller cancelled my contract stating change in circumstances and delisted the house on mls. My agent bought the house and I confirmed it on public records page. The seller agent is fully aware of this. I basically had a crook for a buyer and seller agent. Both are crooks.

https://old.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/111tzje/why_do_people_not_like_real_estate_agents/

Why do people not like real estate agents?

Ours did literally nothing except sit in on the signing of the paperwork. The commission for the labor just didn't add up. Other buyers may have them going to multiple showings, but our simple deal should not have cost the same. yeah yeah.. the buyer paid, but we all know that money could have and should gone to the buyer/seller, not someone who just happened to be in the room.

zzyzzx says

My Real estate agent competed with me while representing me

I'm not an attorney, but I can tell you this; if what you are saying is true, your agent violated his fiduciary agency relationship with you. You could potentially have a huge law suit against that agent. Get all of your paperwork that documents your agency relationship (you should have had a signed agency disclosure form) and find a good attorney that is very familiar with real estate law.

Also, you can file a complaint with the 'Real Estate Commission' in your state. The key to all of this is that you must have documentation.

RayAmerica says

My Real estate agent competed with me while representing me

That is what they all do, to some extent. This is business. No morals. No fiduciary duty. Their goal is to undermine and screw the buyer and seller so that they can get their commission after the sale. No court will help anyone in this. Real estate industry is worse than the drug cartel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/11buhml/buried_in_debt_evaluating_options/

gabbar says

Real estate industry is worse than the drug cartel.

Wow! I didn't know that. How many people has the 'real estate industry' murdered in the last 18 months?