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What is worse then a Realtor?


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2020 Jul 5, 4:33pm   23,362 views  174 comments

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A land salesman, or as they call themselves a consultant.

One of the sales wiennie's at this development was trying to get me to buy some land. I understand that is their job, but the salesman seemed to be oblivious to the economy and market. They are programmed to say "it's a great time to buy" over and over again. :-(

https://www.centennialridgetx.com/index.html

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44   HeadSet   2022 Nov 22, 12:26pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

lip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

Why do that? Just say you will not buy the house unless the price comes down to X. Then each realtor is looking at either 3% of the lower price or nothing.
45   Shaman   2022 Nov 22, 1:32pm  

A colostomy bag is worse than a realtor.
They both are shitty, but You can get rid of a realtor.
47   GNL   2022 Dec 29, 8:53am  

HeadSet says

I respect a woman who supports herself by being a stripper more than I respect a woman on welfare.

Explain further please?
48   HeadSet   2022 Dec 29, 7:11pm  

GNL says


Explain further please?

I thought the meaning was obvious. A woman who falls on hard times but pulls herself up even with "demeaning" jobs like stripper, Keno Writer, sewer cleaner and the like, is more deserving of respect that a woman who uses her child as a meal ticket for an idle life.
49   WookieMan   2022 Dec 29, 7:45pm  

HeadSet says

GNL says

Explain further please?

I thought the meaning was obvious. A woman who falls on hard times but pulls herself up even with "demeaning" jobs like stripper, Keno Writer, sewer cleaner and the like, is more deserving of respect that a woman who uses her child as a meal ticket for an idle life.

1,000%. I'm an angry dude, but I HATE my SIL. I'll be cordial with her unless she gets out of line. She did one time and I physically had to put her in her place. Love my nephew, but she gets free food, rent support, child support, dependent tax write offs, etc. She knows the game. AND we take care of her kid. I'm glad we're able. But 6 fucking DUI's.

Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven. In 24 years or so of having a license, ZERO DUI's. Two speeding tickets when I was young and dumb. 16 and 18. I can't comprehend how a person can get 6 DUI's. Then gets child support from the government because baby daddy is in prison. She makes up for her fuck ups by spending $150 on a pair of Jordans for a kid that will wear them for a year. I wish I had knocked her ass out in the aforementioned physical altercation.
50   richwicks   2022 Dec 29, 8:00pm  

WookieMan says

Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven.


Don't drink and drive.

If you killed somebody, you'll want to kill yourself. Just don't bother with it. Sleep it off in the car, or take a taxi, or walk. Imagine if you caused an accident, or even were just involved with an accident that wasn't your fault, and a child died? If you're intoxicated, you're fucked either way, and even if the accident isn't your fault, you could have possibly prevented it if you were sober.
51   Onvacation   2022 Dec 29, 8:25pm  

GNL says

HeadSet says

I respect a woman who supports herself by being a stripper more than I respect a woman on welfare.

Explain further please?

Explanation? Or illustration?
52   GNL   2022 Dec 30, 7:04am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

DD214 says



Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.


flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill

Can you explain this in more detail please?
53   GNL   2022 Dec 30, 7:05am  

HeadSet says

GNL says



Explain further please?

I thought the meaning was obvious. A woman who falls on hard times but pulls herself up even with "demeaning" jobs like stripper, Keno Writer, sewer cleaner and the like, is more deserving of respect that a woman who uses her child as a meal ticket for an idle life.

I meant to ask that to comment #40.
54   GNL   2022 Dec 30, 7:06am  

richwicks says

WookieMan says


Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven.


Don't drink and drive.

If you killed somebody, you'll want to kill yourself. Just don't bother with it. Sleep it off in the car, or take a taxi, or walk. Imagine if you caused an accident, or even were just involved with an accident that wasn't your fault, and a child died? If you're intoxicated, you're fucked either way, and even if the accident isn't your fault, you could have possibly prevented it if you were sober.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
55   GNL   2022 Dec 30, 7:07am  

GNL says

richwicks says


WookieMan says



Not with kids in the car but I'll have a couple beers nightly and more on the weekend. And yes, I've driven.


Don't drink and drive.

If you killed somebody, you'll want to kill yourself. Just don't bother with it. Sleep it off in the car, or take a taxi, or walk. Imagine if you caused an accident, or even were just involved with an accident that wasn't your fault, and a child died? If you're intoxicated, you're fucked either way, and even if the accident isn't your fault, you could have possibly prevented it if you were sober.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I meant to ask that to comment #40.
56   zzyzzx   2022 Dec 30, 8:16am  

GNL says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


DD214 says




Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.


flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill


Can you explain this in more detail please?


I think they mean that if they are using a buyer's agent, their buyer's agent realtor's commission should be based on how much of a discount they can get instead of a set % of the sales price.
57   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2022 Dec 30, 8:32am  

A back stabbing GOP leader.
58   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Dec 30, 8:47am  

GNL says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


DD214 says




Anytime you are dealing with someone who works on or for a commission , there is a built in conflict of interest between you and them.


flip the commission by giving % of saved from target price. double the rate.

they get 2-3% from sale price. make it 4-6% of saved.

master negotiator skill


Can you explain this in more detail please?


sure.

works if selling agent is a greedy bastard motivated by commission. easy to find out in conversation.

they get 2-3% commission as buyer agent. common in CA is 3/2 split lately. or 4.5 if they represent both sides. offer them higher % on anything saved over target price being top commission so they will be incentivised by you.

for example its listed at 220k. if you offer barely a 6% cash commission on saved from list price and you get it for 190, saving you 30k (minus 6% of 30k to pay out upon sale).
59   WookieMan   2022 Dec 30, 3:05pm  

richwicks says

Don't drink and drive.

Everyone does. Not justifying it. It's fact. No one here being honest can stay they haven't drank and driven a car. Could be one drink and they leave 4 hours later and are 100% sober. Everyone that is cool drinking has drove with alcohol in them.

Unless you're full blow sobriety, you drink and drive. You can tell me you don't and I won't believe you. It would be a lie.
60   Shaman   2022 Dec 30, 3:18pm  

Got pulled over twice while drunk when I was in my 20s. Got let go both times. I had the same line both times. Can you guess what I told the officer to get him to let me go?

The second time was a real wake up call, I don’t do that anymore. Not more than one drink anyways and that with dinner. Mostly, these days, I don’t drink.
61   RayAmerica   2022 Dec 30, 3:28pm  

I've known a few VERY BAD real estate agents, as well as attorneys. Have you ever met an attorney that won't twist the truth, lie and connive in order to 'win' their case?
It happens all the time.

Believe it or not, I've known some honest real estate agents. I've also known a few (very few) honest attorneys, which, IMO, is even more shocking.

Patrick had a thread that stated that there are Doctors out there that will kill you if they can make money off of that. And guess what, there are Doctors out there that will
kill an innocent baby as it emerges from the womb ... all for MONEY.

Human nature is sinful ... and sin permeates into every single area of life.
62   GNL   2022 Dec 30, 3:49pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

for example its listed at 220k. if you offer barely a 6% cash commission on saved from list price and you get it for 190, saving you 30k (minus 6% of 30k to pay out upon sale).

So, you still pay $218,200?

6% of $30k is about $1,800. $220k - $1,800 = $218.2k.

Is that what you're saying?
63   GNL   2022 Dec 30, 3:51pm  

Shaman says

I had the same line both times. Can you guess what I told the officer to get him to let me go?

Did you offer to blow him?
64   just_passing_through   2022 Dec 31, 10:02am  

Shaman says

Can you guess what I told the officer to get him to let me go?

I’m not strunk ossifer, I only had tee martoonies?
66   richwicks   2022 Dec 31, 7:58pm  

I have to answer this "What is worse then a Realtor?"

A government employee is worse. Every. Single. One.

From the Department of Motor Vehicles, right up to an intelligence officer from any of the Alphabet agencies.

These are all NPC robots and they are dangerous and insane. I think ultimately, it's the Federal Reserve central bank that controls them, but they have no convictions or principles, they just follow orders. From teaching children critical race theory, to overthrowing elections.
67   zzyzzx   2023 Jan 3, 7:33am  

https://www.yahoo.com/news/guess-gets-blamed-home-buyers-103000469.html

Guess who gets blamed when home buyers believe they’ve paid too much?

Buyer’s remorse is likely to take on a more sinister turn in the coming months, as people who purchased their houses at the top of the market take out their frustrations on their real estate agents.
68   HeadSet   2023 Jan 3, 7:55am  

zzyzzx says

Buyer’s remorse is likely to take on a more sinister turn in the coming months, as people who purchased their houses at the top of the market take out their frustrations on their real estate agents.

The realtors could not care less about disgruntled fools once the commission check is cashed. Those same buyers will call a realtor when they want to sell those same houses in the future.
70   Eman   2023 Jan 18, 2:59pm  

zzyzzx says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/guess-gets-blamed-home-buyers-103000469.html

Guess who gets blamed when home buyers believe they’ve paid too much?

Buyer’s remorse is likely to take on a more sinister turn in the coming months, as people who purchased their houses at the top of the market take out their frustrations on their real estate agents.

This is not as black and white situation. Buyers lost equity on their purchase. At the same time, they’ve likely locked 2.5-3.5% mortgage rates vs. 6.5% now. Their mortgage payments are probably lower compared to buying now with the higher mortgage rates. Not all is lost at the moment.
71   GNL   2023 Jan 18, 4:02pm  

HeadSet says

The realtors could not care less about disgruntled fools once the commission check is cashed.

Couldn't this same thing be said about most salesmen?

Government is to blame for almost everything you can think of. In the case of real estate, a very good argument can be made that the NAR is a monopoly. Also, it's regulations that have made real estate so expensive and out of sight for more and more people. Well, regulations and government fiscal policy.
72   zzyzzx   2023 Feb 16, 9:19am  

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/112d02h/my_real_estate_agent_competed_with_me_while/

My Real estate agent competed with me while representing me

My agent competed with me while representing me and submitted a higher offer, purchased the house and living in it. I just found out about it 6 months after it has happened. What can I do about it?

Do I have enough grounds to sue him?

It gets interesting, I was already in contract with the seller. After my agent submitted the higher offer, the seller cancelled my contract stating change in circumstances and delisted the house on mls. My agent bought the house and I confirmed it on public records page. The seller agent is fully aware of this. I basically had a crook for a buyer and seller agent. Both are crooks.
73   zzyzzx   2023 Feb 16, 9:41am  

https://old.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/111tzje/why_do_people_not_like_real_estate_agents/

Why do people not like real estate agents?

Ours did literally nothing except sit in on the signing of the paperwork. The commission for the labor just didn't add up. Other buyers may have them going to multiple showings, but our simple deal should not have cost the same. yeah yeah.. the buyer paid, but we all know that money could have and should gone to the buyer/seller, not someone who just happened to be in the room.
74   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 16, 2:37pm  

zzyzzx says


My Real estate agent competed with me while representing me

I'm not an attorney, but I can tell you this; if what you are saying is true, your agent violated his fiduciary agency relationship with you. You could potentially have a huge law suit against that agent. Get all of your paperwork that documents your agency relationship (you should have had a signed agency disclosure form) and find a good attorney that is very familiar with real estate law.

Also, you can file a complaint with the 'Real Estate Commission' in your state. The key to all of this is that you must have documentation.
75   gabbar   2023 Feb 16, 3:00pm  

RayAmerica says


My Real estate agent competed with me while representing me

That is what they all do, to some extent. This is business. No morals. No fiduciary duty. Their goal is to undermine and screw the buyer and seller so that they can get their commission after the sale. No court will help anyone in this. Real estate industry is worse than the drug cartel.
77   RayAmerica   2023 Feb 27, 11:09am  

gabbar says

Real estate industry is worse than the drug cartel.

Wow! I didn't know that. How many people has the 'real estate industry' murdered in the last 18 months?
80   RedStar   2023 Mar 7, 2:55pm  

The last house I bought out of state, the realtor didn't even show up for the home inspection. I emailed him a week in advance that I wouldn't be able to make it because of last minute work, and his response was why would I be there?

He had the guts to text me after closing to sell me on his lawn care business but I blocked his number.
82   WookieMan   2023 Mar 8, 6:35am  

RedStar says

I emailed him a week in advance that I wouldn't be able to make it because of last minute work, and his response was why would I be there?

Not defending realtors at all having been one. Do you really think you wanted him there? Realtors are not inspectors. 9 out of 10 times they just end up in an argument if both inspector and buyer broker are there. 90% of realtors probably haven't picked up a hammer. Everyone acts like a tough guy. Inspectors act like they're fucking structural engineers, when they took a shit class and have no experience in construction. Same for the broker.

Get the warranty on a new build. Resale, you're going to have to fucking fix stuff. Don't own a home if you can't handle it. Simple as that. The second the power goes out and a pipe breaks in the winter, you have to fix it. The furnace will go on you. The water heater. So you fix it. There's no value add to the broker being there. It only causes more drama. And 99% of them LIE about their knowledge of housing. They're sales people. Not builders or tradesmen.
83   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 10, 6:53am  

https://www.reddit.com/r/RidiculousRealEstate/comments/11mxg7s/realtors_cost_1trillion_every_10_years/

Realtors cost $1Trillion every 10 years

Americans pay the highest fees in the developed world. The 6% commission hasn’t come down since it’s inception in the 1920s, despite internet, networks, software, etc. It’s price-fixing. Class action law suits are targeting the national association of realtors over the fact that homeowners have to pay their buyer’s agent. New legislation may require the buyer agents fee be sourced by the buyer, not the seller, as this would of course stop buyer agents from being able to hold the buyer hostage for their 2.5%. Even though buyers find property on their own, the realtor puts the buyer behind a paywall.

The very concept of a fixed commission, a 5 or 6 percentage, is going to mean you inevitably overcharge people. There is not twice the work involved in selling a $500k homes than a $250k home, but the fee doubles.

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