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Bitcoin says

Plus, high paying jobs

Biggest con of CA. Every job offer we've had from CA was 20-30% less than IL. Fact. 6 figure jobs. CO had the best offer at over $300k.

Factor in Covid, you can make the same anywhere in the country if you have the skill. You can also live for 1/2 the costs, maybe even cheaper. I'm $2k/mo living in a high property tax state. Out the gate you're at $2k with just PI in CA. I'm being generous too. Remember you're paying for this stuff after you've been taxed.

No one has to believe me, but being taxed at 13% marginally is insane. Factor in federal? Factor in buying a home in CA? It makes ZERO sense for anyone to move to CA. Joe Rogan as a recent example just saved $13M in taxes. lL would have been a $4.75M tax hit. 1/3rd less than CA. TX $0. My Montana guys and I know some of the TX guys are seeing it. If you own, I'd get out of CA.

Weather is the worst excuse to live in a place. You sound like a pussy. If you're 50 plus you can move to different areas for different times of the year.

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

Plus, high paying jobs

Biggest con of CA. Every job offer we've had from CA was 20-30% less than IL

There could be an issue with the resume and qualification? Maybe too many typos?

My job pays tremendously well. Maybe NY city could match it but in flyover country I would probably get 0.1 of what I am making now :) Love it here in SoCal. Pool time all year round!

Bitcoin says

There could be an issue with the resume and qualification? Maybe too many typos?

Nah, you just don't get paid more in CA. Fortunately we own our own businesses and are not reliant on employers for money like we did at that time. The offers were from years ago. Likely worse now. Pensions don't pay themselves.

Point out typos as well? I'm sure I've made them, but please, point them out.

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

There could be an issue with the resume and qualification? Maybe too many typos?

Nah, you just don't get paid more in CA.

Well, i actually like that. One guy less who can afford to come here means 1-2 cars less on SoCal's streets :) Thank you!

Both me and my wife also make far more in CA than we would in same jobs most other places. Since I work outdoors, the weather is a pretty massive bonus for me. I’ve worked in shit weather before and it sucks. Much rather work outdoors here with sun and a sea breeze.

Shaman says

Both me and my wife also make far more in CA than we would in same jobs most other places. Since I work outdoors, the weather is a pretty massive bonus for me. I’ve worked in shit weather before and it sucks. Much rather work outdoors here with sun and a sea breeze.

I do miss the CA climate in the winter time - in GA it's cold and gray, while CA was about 50-60 degrees and sunny.

But I enjoy summers down here better: 90+ degrees, at the lake or beach, windows down etc...

Shaman says

Both me and my wife also make far more in CA than we would in same jobs most other places.

Run the numbers. You don't. Not trying to be a dick. It's not about the salary. Cost of living is a substantial cost IF you can make more in a location. I've ran the numbers from CO, AZ, CA, MT and FL when we thought about moving. Detailed. You can make the same or more, plus cheaper cost of living. CA and CO were the worst choices when we were looking. This isn't opinion. It's fact.

Between housing costs and state income taxes, any gain of income is wiped out. You'd be better most the time losing income and living substantially more cheaply. That's not the American way though. Spend, spend, spend. And you can just live in Kansas and make the same amount. Location for income doesn't matter with most professions.

WookieMan says

Shaman says

Both me and my wife also make far more in CA than we would in same jobs most other places.

Run the numbers. You don't.

Pretty funny that the guy who predicted that Bitcoin will go to 1.2k (its over 50k as of now), is now pretending to know our salaries.

bawahahaha, the internet is a funny place....thanks Wookie....every day i get a laugh out of your comments!

WookieMan says

Location for income doesn't matter with most professions.

It matters a fuckton with mine. AZ and CO aren’t even on the table, nor are any other landlocked states. And until she completes a certificate, it will matter for hers as well. Everyone has their own situation. Many wouldn’t understand why you remain in Illinois when it’s so fucked up politically and tax wise there. It’s at least as bad as California, but lacking the natural features. Yes I know Chicago and Illinois. I went to college there. It’s not great and it’s not terrible. It’s just perfectly average, with a decidedly below average political and tax situation.

Shaman says

WookieMan says

Location for income doesn't matter with most professions.

It matters a fuckton with mine.

oh boy.....this guy has no idea what he's talking about.....hope he goes on and keeps embarrassing himself. What a bunch of nonsense :D

Location matters a shitton. Maybe if you live in flyover country it doesnt matter if you work in the south or north (the pay is shitty either way) but comparing salaries of CA to flyover country is like comparing a Tesla to a old Kia.

Bitcoin says

this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

I’m sure he knows plenty about his own situation and he has lots of opinions that are valid. Believe me I get plenty of flack from relatives about why I choose to remain here. But everyone has their reasons why they live in a place. As does he, as do you, and as do I.

personal

Shaman says

Bitcoin says

this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

I’m sure he knows plenty about his own situation and he has lots of opinions that are valid.

but to say that salaries in IL are higher across the board compared to CA is simply not true. You cant even say that salaries across CA are aligned. Working in tech in SV is different than working in tech in the inland empire.
He even said location doesnt matter.....lol

WookieMan says

personal

Sad. Lets discuss the topics and not each other.

I would suspect that most on this blog are of means, and pretty much are able to choose where they want to live. Exceptions are those anchored by extended family or current career status. Even so, nothing wrong with some hometown pride. However, the idea that your home is the best place on Earth and everyone envies you for living in the perfect place, is a bit provincial. The man who lives on his own acre in flyover land, who has a 15 minute commute to work, who loves hunting and fishing and has his own bass boat and several good local fishing spots, has all night poker games with the boys on a picnic table lit by a Coleman lantern with a cooler of beer, does not envy the Californian with his beaches and dog walking spots. He also does not envy the long commutes and the necessity of having the wife work to make ends meet. Nor does he envy the tiny house packed into a .15 acre lot. And while the California may think these costs are worth it for the "Mediterranean" climate and local cuisine like the garlic grape leaves at Giglio's Ethnic Café, the flyover guy loves his area's four distinct seasons and the best on Earth pulled pork at Big Fat Daryl's Beanery and Firing Range.

If "big salaries" indicate the best place to live, then I see the Virginia and Maryland counties surrounding Washington DC must be the most desirable places in the country. NYC, too. Even so, when looking at median household income, CA, VA, and Illinois are not that far apart. CA median income is about $80, VA about $76k, and Illinois about $70k. The percentage of those households earning above $200k is Ca-14%. VA - 12%, and Illinois - 9%. Remember, this is Household income, including salaries of both husband and wife (or partner). Do doctors, attorneys, teachers, and other occupations really make more in LA than those in Chicago or Washington DC? How about rural or small town Californians?

Bitcoin says

but to say that salaries in IL are higher across the board compared to CA is simply not true. You cant even say that salaries across CA are aligned. Working in tech in SV is different than working in tech in the inland empire.
He even said location doesnt matter.....lol

I believe he lives in Illinois. They have one of the the highest tax burdens in the whole country.
https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/illinois-has-the-highest-taxes-nationwide-report-finds/

The cost of living in Illinois with its retarded sky-high property, sales, income and gas taxes makes it comparable to the cost of living of many nice places in California.

Last year I promoted and transferred an employee from Washington State down to California. We typically provide 10% pay increase for this type of promotion, but I had to bump him 20% because he was going from a non-income tax state to California's nearly 10% rate at his pay level.

socal2 says

The cost of living in Illinois with its retarded sky-high property, sales, income and gas taxes makes it comparable to the cost of living of many nice places in California.

You forgot about the huge difference in housing prices. CA is still going to be way more expensive.

socal2 says

The cost of living in Illinois with its retarded sky-high property, sales, income and gas taxes makes it comparable to the cost of living of many nice places in California.

You forgot about the huge difference in housing prices. CA is still going to be way more expensive.

Nobody even mentions the congestion in California. Cali IS CROWDED ass to elbow and your are competing even for slots at what used to be the entertainment venues.

Santa Cruz is heavily mobbed even more than it used to be because of Covid cabin fever, and the lack of places to go until recently.

In LA, traveling short distances could take hours. Apparently, Covid helped, but I notice the traffic is creeping up again in the Bay Area.

Booger says

socal2 says

The cost of living in Illinois with its retarded sky-high property, sales, income and gas taxes makes it comparable to the cost of living of many nice places in California.

You forgot about the huge difference in housing prices. CA is still going to be way more expensive.

Buying a house in CA CAN BE a fantastic investment in the long run.....The house in our neighborhood is for sale and in a bidding war. Guy bought it in March and sells in April for 200k more....now I hear there is a bidding war. Frankly, its an extreme example because its a nice location and prices are out of reach for most people.

Ceffer says

Nobody even mentions the congestion in California. Cali IS CROWDED ass

Imagine cost of living would be lower....even more people would pour into CA

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Ceffer says

Nobody even mentions the congestion in California. Cali IS CROWDED ass to elbow and your are competing even for slots at what used to be the entertainment venues.

Santa Cruz is heavily mobbed even more than it used to be because of Covid cabin fever, and the lack of places to go until recently.

In LA, traveling short distances could take hours. Apparently, Covid helped, but I notice the traffic is creeping up again in the Bay Area.

That's everyplace now.

Ceffer says

In LA, traveling short distances could take hours. Apparently, Covid helped, but I notice the traffic is creeping up again in the Bay Area.

Atlanta is packed again too. Sat in bumper to bumper multiple times on the way to Florida the other week.

Booger says

Ceffer says

Nobody even mentions the congestion in California. Cali IS CROWDED ass to elbow and your are competing even for slots at what used to be the entertainment venues.

Santa Cruz is heavily mobbed even more than it used to be because of Covid cabin fever, and the lack of places to go until recently.

In LA, traveling short distances could take hours. Apparently, Covid helped, but I notice the traffic is creeping up again in the Bay Area.

That's everyplace now.

Agreed, also a direct consequence of unfettered illegal immigration. Eventually everybody converges on the nice entertainment / nature spots and turns them into shit. CA still has some undiscovered remote beautiful spots, but if you really wan't to get rid of congestion you need to go to coastal Maine or so, where you have maybe a total of 50 cars passing by between 10pm to 6am on your nearest road - beautiful!

Bitcoin says

Frankly, its an extreme example because its a nice location and prices are out of reach for most people.

No they're not though with interest rates. Most intelligent people don't wan't to be house poor after the housing bust. I can get a $1.5M house tomorrow. But why? Your entertainment is then riding a bike or a dog. I prefer riding the wife on the balcony in a nice hotel in St. Thomas or Mexico. Or family friendly experiences with the kids. No interest in being house poor. But hey, weather I guess?

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

Frankly, its an extreme example because its a nice location and prices are out of reach for most people.

No they're not though with interest rates

Yeah, we have super low inventory and low rates. Bidding wars are happening all over. But our neighborhood just hit a new freakin record that nobody expected to be that high. I cant complain though....seeing your "zestimate" go up by tens of thousands each month is not a bad thing :)

You may get your vaccine, but at least I don't (and won't) have HERPES!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"A recent study published on Apr. 12 has found that a possible side effect of the coronavirus vaccines might be linked to herpes zoster.


The study done by researchers from the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center and Carmel Medical Center in Haifa, Israel showed that patients who had been diagnosed with an autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic disease (AIRD) were more likely to contract herpes zoster, The Jerusalem Post reported.

Herpes zoster, also known as shingles, is a red, itchy, and painful rash that can cause nerve damage and additional pain if not treated, according to the Jerusalem Post."

https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/20/coronavirus-vaccine-linked-to-herpes-zoster-patients-autoimmune-rheumatic-disease/

WookieMan says

Your entertainment is then riding a bike or a dog.

The bike, I'd rather ride the bike than the dog.

Onvacation says

WookieMan says

Your entertainment is then riding a bike or a dog.

The bike, I'd rather ride the bike than the dog.

Did you log out??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pun was totally intended.

joshuatrio says

You may get your vaccine, but at least I don't (and won't) have HERPES!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody has a clue what this shit does. We're maybe days 5 into a calendar year of figuring out what this shit (vaccine) does to you. There was no reason to rush any of this through. As seen with FL, just protect old people. It's not a complex situation. Instead we have 30 year olds pumping themselves full of shit that they have no clue what the consequences will be. Enjoy.

joshuatrio says

You may get your vaccine, but at least I don't (and won't) have HERPES!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"A recent study published on Apr. 12 has found that a possible side effect of the coronavirus vaccines might be linked to herpes zoster.


The study done by researchers from the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center and Carmel Medical Center in Haifa, Israel showed that patients who had been diagnosed with an autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic disease (AIRD) were more likely to contract herpes zoster, The Jerusalem Post reported.

Herpes zoster, also known as shingles, is a red, itchy, and painful rash that can cause nerve damage and additional pain if not treated, according to the Jerusalem Post."

https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/20/coronavirus-vaccine-linked-to-herpes-zoster-patients-autoimmune-rheumatic-disease/

If you never had chicken pox you can't get shingles as it's caused by the same virus, so "contract herpes zoster" should really read "develop herpes zoster" since one already contracted the virus long ago. But not surprised about the myriad of side effects, esp. on the auto-immune side. Not a single reason to get vaxxed at this point unless you're at extremely high risk of serious complications from covid. But hey, there's a shingles vaccine and a vaccine for that vaccine and so on! Just keep on jabbing lol ;)

mell says

If you never had chicken pox you can get shingles as it's caused by the same virus

I think it's the other way around: if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life. If you haven't had CP you'll have chickenpox if exposed to it (and may die if over 25).

FuckCCP89 says

if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life.

Correct.

Yes, it's very dangerous to contract as an adult which is (was?) the reason for chicken pox parties for kids. I hadn't heard death was a possibility but infertility was one if I recall.

HeadSet says

the flyover guy loves his area's four distinct seasons and the best on Earth pulled pork at Big Fat Daryl's Beanery and Firing Range.

Now I’m both jealous AND hungry! Wish we had a Darryl’s!

FuckCCP89 says

mell says

If you never had chicken pox you can get shingles as it's caused by the same virus

I think it's the other way around: if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life. If you haven't had CP you'll have chickenpox if exposed to it (and may die if over 25).

Yeah can was supposed to read can't. Fixed.
And yeah def better to have had CP and be at risk for shingles than contracting CP late in life. That's another problems with the vaccine fanatics and pushers, if you vaccinate against everything you need to keep boosting throughout your life which increases cumulative side effects and people often forget to get the boosters for childhood diseases they never had, and they are in for a serious ride if they contract them later in iife. Most are just better to get over with early on as a kid.

just_passing_through says

FuckCCP89 says

if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life.

Correct.

Yes, it's very dangerous to contract as an adult which is (was?) the reason for chicken pox parties for kids. I hadn't heard death was a possibility but infertility was one if I recall.

AFAIK there's only one childhood disease which goes the reverse, i.e. from serious to harmless as one ages, and that is pertussis (whooping cough). I'm glad I had most (if not all) of them as a kid. Nothing like natural immunity.

WookieMan says

Onvacation says

WookieMan says

Your entertainment is then riding a bike or a dog.

The bike, I'd rather ride the bike than the dog.

Did you log out???

Thats different, you quoted it. In my example nobody quoted it which showed me that onvacation reads my comments while being logged out and then references them :)
So, the ignores dont mean much because anyone who has me on ignore can still read all my posts and comments.

As far as the doggy and the bike goes....Just came back from a long walk with the doggy....love working from home. Doggy's having a blast chasing squirrels.

For the weekend I am planning a long bike ride with the boys. Not sure where yet but I am sure it will be awesome and the weather will be perfect.

Bitcoin says

Just came back from a long walk with the doggy

You said you have a pool. Throw a ball in the back yard. Plenty of energy to get out of a dog. And let them swim if it's so nice in Socal. My dog gets ripped from swimming. Lean and strong at 12 years old.

Or you don't have a pool or a fenced yard, which is what my instinct is telling me. You don't walk dogs if you have that. Code usually requires a fenced yard. So yeah, calling BS.

Just think about what's actually being injected in your body....