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Patrick says

Fisting could perforate a colon. Just saying.

Yup.

David Miranda was 37 when he died nearly 38 (his died just before his birthday). Glenn Greenwald married him (or at least he was his spouse) in 2005. 2023-2005 = 18. 38-18 = 20.

Greenwald is 56. 56-18 = 38. I think Greenwald was a little too old for him. Well, a lot too old.

richwicks says

You have no concept of how fucking pissed off I am. How disgusted I am with my "fellow citizens". Fucking cowards and morons. They won't even speak up, or they are too stupid to be able to speak up.

Going to be blunt. How do you speak up? All it seems like is you bitching here and not actually doing anything. What have you done? What elected position or part of government did you get involved in or change? Bitching at a city or county board meeting does little to nothing. You understand they're not listening. They think you're an idiot. I'm on a board and deal with those types. We put our invisible ear plugs in.

Until you get on any board or government agency, you're doing nothing except whining to people on Patnet. The past is the past, we fucked up in the ME, but every comment you make has to bring that up. Bitching about it doesn't change the future. For fucks sakes people owned black people at one point in our history. CA is getting all hung up on that with this reparations for people that NEVER experienced slavery or even knew anyone old enough to recall slavery, even from a great grandparent.

Instead of bitching about the past, fix the future. Otherwise you'll end up with someone else's future and bitch about that in hindsight.

WookieMan says

Going to be blunt. How do you speak up?

Get onto Youtube and Facebook, and get cancelled. You won't get cancelled on Substack. Talk openly with your friends and neighbors, fuck their feelings, explain your thinking, don't get pissed just explain to them what they are oblivious about. Don't be afraid of being "the nut".

Eventually you find somebody that can think. It's rare, but eventually you do, and they spread it on.

But silence == consent. Realize that's really true.

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All it seems like is you bitching here and not actually doing anything. What have you done?

I daresay that this board might be much more proUkrainian and anti-Russian if I wasn't here to tell you that the US overthrew Ukraine in 2014. I think people would be referring to mainstream "news" a lot more as well, but I think nearly everybody here realizes it's full on propaganda - that I doubt to some extent, Trump did identify it as the "enemy of the people", and it sure as hell is.

I could be deluded though.

WookieMan says

I'm on a board and deal with those types. We put our invisible ear plugs in.

I fucking KNOW the government doesn't listen. Appealing to them, well that's worse than pointless.

richwicks says

I fucking KNOW the government doesn't listen. Appealing to them, well that's worst than pointless.

I think WookieMan confirmed that and is saying you need to get in government yourself if you want to fix anything. Even a local school board or county commission. TBP pushes getting into Republican precincts as a way to push out RINOs.

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That is why I subscribe to a libertarian mindset.

In a libertarian society, people could get together and agree voluntarily to elect representatives, then they could offload policing and protecting their property with gangs, called police, then they could offload the work of educating children by allowing their representatives to create schools...

Libertarianism is like Austrian economics, it's not really a system, it's a hypothesis.

HeadSet says

I think WookieMan confirmed that and is saying you need to get in government yourself if you want to fix anything.

Look, we spent 4 years watching the government simply ignore Trumps orders when he was president. Did you forget that?

He ordered a withdrawal from Syria, and the military simply IGNORED this. In fact, they lied about it.

Alex Jones substitutes for Crowder


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Durham Report Obliterates FBI for Russiagate Misconduct. Major Changes at Twitter Raise Serious Questions. And Reflections on the Extraordinary Life of David Miranda | SYSTEM UPDATE #83


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It starts about 7 minutes and 35 seconds in.

WookieMan says

How do you speak up?

My own attempt to speak up is via the memes I publish most evenings. Up to about regular 370 readers now, via website, email, and Substack.

Glenn Greenwald
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A group of black leftists (the real kind, not DNC-loyal posers) celebrate Rumble's free speech platform after they are again censored by Google/YouTube.

Rumble has no ideology except free discourse. But it's called "right-wing" because free speech is now equated with fascism.🤷‍♂️

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After being shadow banned on youtube for almost 2 years and NEVER being allowed to trend, RBN joins Rumble and trends immediately after our show with Jimmy Dore

Unlike Youtube, Rumble doesnt throttle black anti imperialist voices

Not that I'm a fan of the "Revolutionary Blackout Network" but I am a fan of being able to hear what everyone has to say.

Who remembers the supposed "Israeli art students" in 2001? This was the largest spy ring in the United States (well, discovered), and Israel (our closest ally!!!! Not because they've infiltrated the highest levels of our government, but because they are a true ally) did it.

Video starts at about 32 seconds in.


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Makes you realize how far Alex Jones has fallen. He's completely sold out.

USS LIBERTY REMEMBERED: PART 1


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I remember the two indemnities paid within months by Israel, who was in the middle of a active, DEFCON 2 level shooting war at the time.

When Trump becomes GEOTUS, he needs to give Alex Jones the highest award possible. This country owes Alex Jones the highest respect possible.

I picked up this video from somebody else, but I can't find it to thumbs up.

Edit: found it: https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=1959852 - charlie303 posted it.

I'm NOT a huge fan of Greg Hunter, however, his guest Mark Crispin Miller makes good points and explains how Propaganda effects us all. You can't escape it, even if you're FULLY aware of how it works.


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You're better off a bit (quite a bit!) if you understand it, but at the same time, it puts you at odds with society that DOESN'T understand it. Many Americans, still, don't think our government engages in propaganda. Propaganda CAN be true as well, that's an important point to make, however, a lot of it is false, but it exists for a reason - why?

I don't mind true propaganda, however, when it's true, there needs to be full explanations as to why it's true. If you can't find that, it's almost always false.

Pop Question for Tim Poole fans:

Is Ian Crossland...

1) The total moron he seems to exactly be.
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2) He's a damn fine actor playing the devil's idiot, er...'advocate' on TimcastIRL just to stir up the drama?

For those of who who don't know who he is or what I am talking about, just watch the first 3 minutes of this:


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Trollhole says

Pop Question for Tim Poole fans:

Is Ian Crossland...

1) The total moron he seems to exactly be.

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He comes off as a moron most of the time. He would be full lib if it wasnt for his friends.

Trollhole says

2) He's a damn fine actor playing the devil's idiot, er...'advocate' on TimcastIRL just to stir up the drama?

Infiltrator who gets a paycheck from both sides? Many layers of double, triple, quadruple agents in all medias now. All it takes is to have no principles, no loyalties, no morals, no ethics, just surf the passions of other in the moment for some trivial gain or thirty pieces of silver. Fake your alignment, it's just politics? He's doing some kind of controlled opposition schtick.
Sociopaths don't care if a thousand people lose a thousand dollars each, as long as they can make a tenner.

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Pop Question for Tim Poole fans:

Is Ian Crossland...

1) The total moron he seems to exactly be.
-or-
2) He's a damn fine actor playing the devil's idiot, er...'advocate' on TimcastIRL just to stir up the drama?

For those of who who don't know who he is or what I am talking about, just watch the first 3 minutes of this:


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I think it's just to drag the dummy liberals through their "logic" so they can understand their own point of view.

Ever ask somebody that "hates Trump" what is so awful about him, and they will say stuff like "oh he's racist", and then you ask for examples, and they can't name any? When they realize this, they will accuse YOU of ignorance "what you don't know????"

There's a lot of people who are so ignorant that they have absolutely no idea what is going on, HOWEVER they may very well spend a great deal of time listening to "news", without having any idea they don't learn anything at all.

There's people who are entirely propagandized. They have strong feelings, but they have no basis for having them. All they do is hear the same thing over and over and over again, and are convinced it's true, without ever once checking to see if it IS true and if you confronted them about it, they then get embarrassed, because they then realize they have no basis for their belief, and the NEXT step is usually anger because you've just exposed them as a fraud. You've caught them in a lie, repeating propaganda, and being a fool.

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There's a lot of people who are so ignorant that they have absolutely no idea what is going on, HOWEVER they may very well spend a great deal of time listening to "news", without having any idea they don't learn anything at all.

This is why 'democracy' doesn't scale well beyond the local level.

Trollhole says

This is why 'democracy' doesn't scale well beyond the local level.

I disagree.

IF we had a well-informed population it would scale OK.

The problem is we don't have a well-informed public. If you tell a normie that "the news is all propaganda and bullshit", they'll think you're nuts. If you try to prove to them that you have good reasoning to conclude this, they think you're even more crazy. It's impossible to reach people.

I was just talking to my neighbor about 5 minutes ago about this. I have a friend which I simply cannot convince that we overthrew Ukraine. I've shown him the Victoria Nuland / Geoffrey Pyatt intercepted phone call. I proved this happened on or before January 4th 2014, in the call they are picking out the next "leader" of Ukraine who became Prime Minister. Well, Viktor Yanukovych left (fled) office on Feb 22th, 2014.

Well, he didn't read it in the Economist, so I'm crazy. He needs "an authority" to tell him. It's so weird. He's not stupid by any measure, but he's highly propagandized and he believes he's very intelligent (more intelligent than me anyhow), so anything I try to tell him, he simply disbelieves.

I am seriously having difficulty thinking of many people as being "human" at this point, seriously. There's people I can talk with who will at first think what I'm saying is crazy, BUT they will check on what I've said, and find out I'm right. 10% of the people are like this. My parents aren't, my siblings aren't. One of my neighbors is, a few of my friends are and it's getting increasingly difficult to respect people who are afraid to come to any other conclusion than what they've heard in some propaganda piece.

Added difficulty is that what is said on CNN and VERY different from what is said in the Economist. The Economist will have a more complicated intricate explanation for something - so my friend knows CNN is garbage but he can't imagine the Economist is just different garbage. You really can't get the truth of any major event in any "reliable sources" at all.

Wait - that's ALMOST true. You can get the truth from a major source, if there's no official US policy position on it yet.


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TRUE original source: https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html

That's a CNN report from September 20014 on the civil war between East and West Ukraine. They don't explain the origins of the civil war (that was the coup), but they acknowledge there's a civil war.

It's been a little over 9 years since the coup. I listen and pick stuff up, that's how I get all this stuff. There's ALWAYS some marginalized person that will discuss this because they think they have a moral duty to discuss it. I don't remember how I found out but I always find out. I'll hear a piece here, and there, and somewhere else, then the puzzle parts fall together and you have a complete picture. I didn't know anything about Ukraine in 2013, and honestly don't know much about it now. I didn't even know about their so-called Orange Revolution in 2005 until a few weeks ago. That might have been an attempted RUSSIAN coup, not CIA.

Viktor Yanukovych was running for election then and he originally WON, but after a revote, it was Viktor Yushchenko that won. Yanukovych won in 2010, and from what I've HEARD he was legitimately elected in that as well.

Who knows? For all I know Viktor Yanukovych lost both times, and seized power in 2010? There's no way to know. My objection is the US engineered a coup there, that led to a civil war, and now there's a proxy war between the US and Russia. 300,000 Ukrainians have SAID to been killed. Is this number accurate? No idea, but at the time time, I don't see how it's possible Ukraine will "win" this war. Russia is going to take land from Ukraine, Ukraine is going to be SLAVES to the EU because they are "borrowing" money, not being given it. It's just a disaster. The country seems to have a schism between East and West, they should just part and go their own way. I just regard this war as more money wasted and a bunch of people being killed for nothing.

From what I've heard from the VERY few Russians I've talked to, they don't even really think about the war, and there is MORE support for Putin, not less. Russians are defiant. It's just a mess. I hate US foreign policy. Either it's so goddamned complicated and the chess board is so complex I cannot see it, or our foreign policy is run by morons, OR it's run by traitors. If it was just a super complicated chess board, I'd think somebody could explain it, but it's all just a bunch of propaganda for explanations. The closest I can get to what I think it honest, is Paul Craig Roberts - if thinks the Neocons that run our foreign policy are insane and I think it's that or they are traitors.

A lot of Jewish oligarchs (meaning Israeli tied Israeli agents) were thrown out of Russia or imprisoned by Putin starting around 2000. I know a few people (not personally really, more know OF them), that make the case that Israel has a very real criminal syndicate in it, and they have agents outside of their country acting as parasites in host countries. Well, if that's true, Russia dealt with them. This war, to them, is nothing more than an attempt to get revenge, and with a lot of luck, remove Putin as revenge. I don't think they will be successful.

Putin isn't like a Trump in Russia, he's not seen as some great reformer, my general feeling is that he's viewed as "the president that Russia needs". He's got around 70% support in Russia IF I'm to believe what I read, and I skeptical of everything I read. I'm certain he has more than 50% support. Much better than Biden in any case.

BTW - since I'm a blabber motermouth rant, I want to point out that CNN at one point was showing as "proof" that Russia invaded Ukraine back in 2015, Russian and Ukrainians on a battlefield. Those series of videos were taken when Ukraine and Russia were carrying out joint military maneuvers a few years prior, when they were allies still. That's how dishonest our media is. Some astute observer picked up on it, found the original RUSSIAN news source that contained the videos, and linked them. The US has claimed that Russia "had invaded" Ukraine MANY times, before Russia actually did. Remember the story of the "mobile crematoriums"? Our government has NO RESPECT for us, none.

I can't believe anybody believes them anymore, after the "mobile weapons labs". Imagine trying to create a chemical weapon in a TRUCK you're driving around. That stuff is TOXIC. Sarin is a orderless, tasteless liquid that if you inhale just a LITTLE BIT - you're dead in 1 to 10 minutes. The LD50 is 172 μg/kg. You could kill somebody with a drop, not even that. Now, supposedly the story is our government actually believed that Hussein had a bunch of "mobile weapons labs", driving around with that shit inside of it. That stuff is terrifying. You can't even vent the vapors safely into the atmosphere. Just crazy people work with that. Nuts.

Want to know what actually happened on 9/11? This is Part II. I'll print Part I in the next post.

This is currently live, but it should be archived and you can watch it at your leisure. If the link moves, I'll update it.


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It was US intelligence, and Israeli intelligence that did it. The terrorist are unwitting dupes that killed themselves in Jihad, which is precisely what the US intelligence and Israeli intelligence wanted them to do. You know how the FIB recruits people to do terrorist attacks, then arrests them before they can do it, and then shout about how they stopped a terrorist attack?

CIA does the same thing, except they allow the attack to happen and even assist in making it happen.

This is Part 1 to the above video:


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Video starts at about 6:25


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This episode basically covers how our "free press" has betrayed the country by aligning itself with the security agencies.

“free” press. everything fake and gay

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

“free” press. everything fake and gay

There IS a free press, it's just not on Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, television, or anything in physical print. It's exclusively on the Internet and it's scattered across Rumble, Odysee, Bitchute, Gab, and other smaller sites. Bitchute seems to be the least, if not ENTIRELY uncensored site.

Amrou "Myron Gaines" "Fresh" Fudl worked as a DHS/HSI agent after college. Neoliberals push on both ends to destablize.

https://www.ice.gov/about-ice/homeland-security-investigations

Pointing this out isn't "Drama", an influencer who worked for an Federal Agency that claims "White Supremacists" are the top threat and has been doing so for years is a cause for concern.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/white-supremacists-anarchists-dhs-homeland-threat-assessment/index.html

The Atlantic Council has a special subcomittee wholly dedicated to "The Future of DHS"
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/07/politics/homeland-security-terrorism-bulletin/index.html

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Trump to speak shortly.


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DeSantis was yesterday


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TRUMP Speaking in Michigan, will have TED NUGENT open for him.


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richwicks says

Makes you realize how far Alex Jones has fallen. He's completely sold out.

I remember watching Alex Jones on the local community channel in Ann Arbor, Michigan back in the 1990s when he first started out of Austin.

Alex Jones seems to have not deviated from the "prison planet" narrative and seems the same as far as calling out the Feds for Waco.

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Rumble goes out of their way to drive me away. Most of the time they make you sit through commercials as long as 15 seconds to watch a 30 second clip.
I have been presented with a static image for 15 seconds, not even an advertisement. More over the things that they advertise are not things one would market to Right leaning people. The advertisements come across as a deterrent or even Punishment for watching the video.

Then finally you have to log in, to even read the comments. If I were a commie and wanted to really shit on the Conservatives really really really Good.
Then Rumble would be most proud inspiring achievement..

Tenpoundbass says

Rumble goes out of their way to drive me away. Most of the time they make you sit through commercials as long as 15 seconds to watch a 30 second clip.

@Tenpoundbass use the Brave web browser. I didn't even realize Rumble had commercials.

Brave skips all commercials.

It's currently live now, but it will be archived.


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