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Ceffer says

Possibly some seriously unconfirmed fog of war bullshit, but again horrible if true:
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=207500

That would be very sad if it is true. I'm always saddened to see good men die, especially white. :( I really do hope for peace between the 2 nations.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/to-figure-out-whats-really-happening-68b

To figure out what's really happening in Ukraine (and not just there), DON'T watch TV, or read the New York Times, or any other Western media outlet (whether corporate OR "alternative")

Liberators don't want to be liberators anymore. Now they are openly calling for outright genocide:

https://youtu.be/NF4K41pLAhM

PS. How does one go from "I'll save you" to "I'll kill you", unless "saving" was just a ruse from the get-go?

Eric Holder says

Liberators don't want to be liberators anymore. Now they are openly calling for outright genocide:

https://youtu.be/NF4K41pLAhM

PS. How does one go from "I'll save you" to "I'll kill you", unless "saving" was just a ruse from the get-go?

Listen to these retarded Russian mooks.

"Russian people demand harsh, immediate actions!"

Basically, how dare Ukraine recapture their own land?

Looks like Putin's visit to China and India this week didn't win him any converts. How much longer is Russia going to continue with this needless killing?

socal2 says

Eric Holder says

Liberators don't want to be liberators anymore. Now they are openly calling for outright genocide:

https://youtu.be/NF4K41pLAhM

PS. How does one go from "I'll save you" to "I'll kill you", unless "saving" was just a ruse from the get-go?

Listen to these retarded Russian mooks.

"Russian people demand harsh, immediate actions!"

Basically, how dare Ukraine recapture their own land?

Looks like Putin's visit to China and India this week didn't win him any converts. How much longer is Russia going to continue with this needless killing?

DON"T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT LOSING OF KHUEVATOVKA VILLAGE SOMEWHERE IN KHARKIV OBLAST POSES AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO RUSSIA AS A WHOLE?!!!!!

RWSGFY says

Be warned that our resident sceptics, namely @richwicks, will require hard proof of these bold claims of millions killed and tens of thousands of tanks destroyed.

ANY MOMENT NOW!

I barely pay attention to you.

Let's say "millions were killed". Minimum that's 2 million to make it plural. There's about 43 million Ukrainians. 2*100/43 =~ 4.65% of the population. Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Why should I waste time refuting you? I don't think anybody is stupid enough to believe you. You're a screaming child screaming LOOK AT ME.

You're not a serious, thoughtful person. You're not principled, you're not reasonable much less logical. Who cares what you scream about? You scream, a lot.

jykiodfgr says

Looks like 500 dead Ukrainian a day for the last 10 days, so 5000 dead. How many conscripts are there?

You have a proof for that number? Don't get me wrong, I TOTALLY BELIEVE you, but our very strict resident sceptics like @richwicks will require solid documentation. You better have your ducks in a row or he'll rip you a new asshole for spreading state propaganda.

Perun's analysis of the last 6 months of SCHMO: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B93tLs39pQo

ZipperTits says

Eric Holder says

DON"T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT LOSING OF KHUEVATOVKA VILLAGE SOMEWHERE IN KHARKIV OBLAST POSES AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO RUSSIA AS A WHOLE?!!!!!

Losing this war is an existential threat to the Russians. Not right away, but w/o secure borders like they had with the USSR, Russia is toast.

They had secure borders before they decided to cross them and engage in landgrabs and military adventurism. And once they are kicked inside their borders nobody would follow them there. There is literally nothing of value inside Ruscia for anyone (except maybe Chyna, but even that is debatable).

Patrick says

This begs the question what did they have on Trump who was the one who first started shipping ATGMs. And why none of that compromat worked in 2014-16 when all Ukie were getting from Obiden was blankets and gauze.

RWSGFY says

There is literally nothing of value inside Ruscia for anyone (except maybe Chyna, but even that is debatable).

That's a laugh.

Provide a list of valuable things in your mind, and give examples of where these things are in particular nations.

Here, I'll start. Energy deposits. Russia has a lot of them, and Europe doesn't.

jykiodfgr says

NATO is about to lose this entire region.

They are going to lose more than that.

NATO is going to lose this in time:



The West has been fucking with Russia for 2 solid decades. Now that the oil spigots are off, they aren't going to go back on. Europe is fucked. I wouldn't be surprised to see a European exodus to Russia in a few years. There's a very real possibility people are going to be freezing to death in Europe this year.

People say the West is purposely imploding itself, sure looks that way. But keep listening to the propaganda out of your teeeeveeee box that has fucked us all.

jykiodfgr says

richwicks says

NATO is going to lose this

Agreed, do you think we'll see Chinese troops in Europe? or will it be a wholly Russian operation?

I think Europe will essentially be a 3rd world zone with NO military intervention.

I don't think any troops will have to enter Europe. All they need to do is cut off energy. Russia and China, however, might enter the Middle East. Just give the Middle East a better deal than "give me your shit, or we're going to bomb the fuck out of you" they'll go along.

Fucking stupid Neocons have destroyed this nation and Europe. They are as arrogant, as they are stupid.

Israel will remain a US "ally", a parasite, but that will be the extent of US influence in the Middle East soon.

All somebody needs to do with the stupid Muslims is say "hey shitheads, you assholes have been fighting for over 1000 years, if you stop being dumb fucking morons, you could co-operate and build something".

I've said it many times, the end of this nation didn't start recently, it began with George W. Bush using the murder of 3,000 people in NYC as a cynical excuse to attack Iraq, which has absolutely nothing to do with it. If he was executed, as he should have been, and still should be, it would have ended, but instead we got Obozo the Black Clown to attack 5 more nations.

The MIC has destroyed this nation.

Whoever is pulling the strings in the United States doesn't give a fuck about the United States. If we're lucky, we'll end up being as important as Australia is now.

Really, I think the last 30 years of foreign policy has been "fuck it, although I know this will destroy the country, it makes me a LOT of money for now, and by the time it destroys the nation, I'll be dead - also, fuck my kids, I don't give a shit about them"

jykiodfgr says

Interesting perspective, thanks! A possible best case scenario, but I don't think they will go quietly into the night though.

No, they aren't going quietly into the night.

This chaos is what they are doing to cling to power. They are kicking and screaming now.

There's censorship on the Internet, and CERTAINLY in our "news" media - that's a very clear sign of weakness, not strength. In order to maintain power, they have to continually lie to the population at this point, and they can't allow open discussion of what they are lying about.

I was personally happy to see censorship in the open. Suddenly, I could see who the enemies of the nation were. I didn't realize that Twitter was, I suspected Google but I could be certain afterward, I always knew Facebook were traitors. I didn't realize banks would deplatform people - kick them out of the actual banking system. I suspected the FIB and other intelligence agencies had some "bad apples", I didn't realize they were in fact entirely criminal organizations. I thought the DOJ was a bit corrupt, not entirely corrupt.

I'm just sitting back waiting for the rest of the public to realize it. I know it's taken many people by surprise. I think a lot of people have been in denial. I was in denial, and I'm CYNICAL, but it's 100x worse than I believed back in 2015, and I mean that, it's literally 100 times worse. I only scratched the surface. I now know our government regularly lies us into war, that politicians are nothing more than mafia heads, that the intelligence agencies will blatantly entrap and prosecute innocent people, that the DOJ engages in selective prosecution regularly. I thought these were rare occurrences, nope, that's their main function - real investigation, real prosecution, THAT is the rarity.

RWSGFY says

jykiodfgr says

Looks like 500 dead Ukrainian a day for the last 10 days, so 5000 dead. How many conscripts are there?

You have a proof for that number? Don't get me wrong, I TOTALLY BELIEVE you, but our very strict resident sceptics like @richwicks will require solid documentation. You better have your ducks in a row or he'll rip you a new asshole for spreading state propaganda.

So, are you going to put up?

jykiodfgr says

NATO is about to lose this entire region.

When exactly will it be "lost"?

jykiodfgr says

You can literally see Putin's rage building up on these maps. Let's nuke the EU Putin.

All I see is on that map Putin losing the last means to do the "pincer move to encircle AFU in Dumb Ass" because that one depended on Izum which he fucking lost.

Losing ground to the opponent having literally 1/10 of everything compared to the RU AF: tanks, artillery pieces, aircraft... Pathetic.

jykiodfgr says

NATO is about to lose this entire region.

ANY MOMENT NOW!

jykiodfgr says

Looks like another 500+ Ukrainian draftees were destroyed yesterday, I wonder how long they can keep this up.

Maybe, but they killed 1500+ Ruscist conscripts and destroyed/captured 200 tanks so the attrition rate is heavily in the Ukie favor.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/TatsuyaIshida9

If mobilizing and throwing in 300,000 poorly-equipped conscripts as cannon fodder was part of the plan, why wasn't it done before starting the SCHMO? And if it wasn't, doesn't it mean that the SCHMO is not going as planned?

Let's see some pretzels!

RWSGFY says

If mobilizing and throwing in 300,000 poorly-equipped conscripts as cannon fodder was part of the plan, why wasn't it done before starting the SCHMO? And if it wasn't, doesn't it mean that the SCHMO is not going as planned?

Let's see some pretzels!

Nope, it ain't going as planned. Putin had hoped to have a puppet government in Kiev. He did not want to acquire territory. The Ukies fought back instead of surrendering so now he is acquiring buffer territory by annexing parts of Ukraine into Russia. I understand the locals in the 4 areas are holding referendums over the next week to vote on becoming part of Russia. According to UN charter this is permissible (we did the same thing with respect to Kosovo). If this goes according to plan, then any attack on these newly acquired territories would constitute a direct attack on Russia itself. Putin said something about possibly using nukes to defend Russia's territorial integrity, but he has lied in the past so we will see what happens.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/ThePacificNews

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — Two U.S. military veterans who disappeared while fighting Russia with Ukrainian forces have been released after about three months in captivity, relatives said Wednesday.

Alex Drueke, 39, and Andy Huynh, 27, went missing after their unit came under heavy fire in the Kharkiv region of northeastern Ukraine near the Russian border June 9. Both had traveled to Ukraine on their own and became friends because both are from Alabama.

The families announced their release in a joint statement from Dianna Shaw, an aunt of Drueke.

“They are safely in the custody of the U.S. embassy in Saudi Arabia and after medical checks and debriefing they will return to the states,” the statement said.

The Saudi embassy released a statement saying it had mediated the release of 10 prisoners from Morocco, the United States, the United Kingdom, Sweden and Croatia, but there wasn’t any immediate confirmation on whether Drueke and Huynh were part of the group.

jykiodfgr says

Fatalities on the Ukrainian side are ten times higher, with 61,207 Kiev troops killed

"10 to 1 is not good enough, it should be at least 100 to 1 like when US forces illegaly invade other countries."

PS. So, let's recoup, Russia lost only 6,000 troops but needs to conscript 300,000? Why bother if everything works so swimmingly as is? And why did brave Ruscist troops clear out of thousands of square miles in less than a week? Tired of all that killing, I guess?

Misc says

He did not want to acquire territory.

Bzzzt, wrong: he said many times, including last night, that he wants to annex a piece of Ukraine. So he did want and still wants to acquire territory. It's just he's now doing negative acquisition, that's all.

jykiodfgr says

within the last three weeks Kiev had lost in total more than 7,000 service members killed and 970 weapon units neutralized, including 208 tanks, 245 APCs and 186 other armored military vehicles, as well as 15 military planes.

Hey, @rickwicks, are you going to demand proof or this Baghdad Bob shit is good enough for you as is? Just so you know: if you don't,you'll make a complete ass clown out of yourself (again).

Russian mobilization is popular!

Over 1,000 people detained in anti-mobilization protests across Russia

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1572657809027919875

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/colonelhomsi/status/1528355702523174913#m

215 Ukrainians including Azov commanders exchanged for 55 Russians including Putin’s friend.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572706047378219008

The Ukrainians are said to have returned 55 Russians in exchange. Included is Viktor Medvedchuk.

Of the 55 Russians, 2 are senior officers, colonel and major, 6 are junior officers, 4 are warrant officers, 40 are privates and sergeants, 2 are DPR soldiers, and another 2 are LPR.

Patrick says

What's the point? I already know my $120 is there, fighting Ruscists... That trip would be redundant an therefore unproductive waste of money and we don't want that!

The mobilisation is receiveng immense support:

https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1572568782748680194

It's nice to see them lining up like that.... to escape it.

Mobilizing 300000 troops isn't going to get you any more tanks, trucks, or artillery shells.

Rumor has it that the main purpose of US troops in Poland and the Baltics is to prevent them from invading Russia and Belirus.

RWSGFY says

If mobilizing and throwing in 300,000 poorly-equipped conscripts as cannon fodder was part of the plan, why wasn't it done before starting the SCHMO? And if it wasn't, doesn't it mean that the SCHMO is not going as planned?

Everything we are told is given to us by a government that lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, lied about Qaddafi causing a humanitarian crisis in Libya, lied about Assad gassing his own citizens, and lied about not overthrowing Ukraine in a coup.

We've had the Ghost of "Kyiv", the massacre on Snake Island, a Massacre in Mariopol that wasn't done by the Russians - it's so weird to me people still believe this fucking lying government and it's pathetic propaganda media.