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In the absence of ICE car demand for gasoline (and diesel), there wouldn't have been the petrochemical industry that has produced the plastic insulators (tubes/wire-wraps/coatings) for electric lines. Electricity distribution into households would have continued using the Knob-and-Tube method,
We can't even do 10% EV's currently. We're at 3% max. Your light in your home would not turn on if we got to 10% at current grid capabilities in most areas. CA grid is toast if EV's double in the next year or two. It's already shit anyway.
Over 25% of all new cars sold in California last year were electric.
California has one of the shittiest and least reliable grids in the US, so if California can cope - so will most everyone else.
Not saying that we don't have to improve our energy grid - but it is not an insurmountable task.
You get a hot summer and you guys are fucked even if you have the free super charger. Your car won't work.
Did it win any awards for being fugly?
Looking at getting one of the new 3's for the wife and handing her Hyundai Santa Fe down to one of my kids.
I hope the Model Y gets its update before next January when I am due to turn in my lease and get a new Tesla. All the reviews on the upgraded 3 are very good.
Good choice. It’s getting raving reviews. The hope for the refreshed Y is this summer, or later this year at the latest.
Solar was not a viable option while he drives an X
Eman says
Solar was not a viable option while he drives an X
Then that $10k installed generator will not be viable for that X either. Both solar and that price generator would be around 25kW.
Eman says
Good choice. It’s getting raving reviews. The hope for the refreshed Y is this summer, or later this year at the latest.
I hope you are right. They have to be cagey about announcing so they don't "Osbourne" current Model Y orders.
Based on my tracking, Tesla draws about 9.6 kW/hour on a 50A circuit breaker so it should work just fine. Owner also has the option to reduce it down to 40A, or 30A, or even less if desired.
I don't get the disconnect here with you Eman and Socal.
I think all those are generally accepted in this group as well as acknowledging they're 1. A toy for the well healed and 2. Limited use cases.
GNL says
I think all those are generally accepted in this group as well as acknowledging they're 1. A toy for the well healed and 2. Limited use cases.
That was the case a few years ago. Elon always said he wanted to start with making high-end expensive cars with high margin then move onto more affordable cars as they ramp up production and perfect manufacturing.
The Model Y was the best selling car in all of the world last year. There must be alot of well healed people on the planet.
Also, the average Tesla exceeds the needs over over 90% of the US market based on their daily driving needs. Tesla's supercharger network is 2nd to none (getting better every day) which allows for long hauls.
But if you are one of the 10% who can't charge at home and drives 300+ miles every day, an EV is not a good choice.
You are conveintly leaving out the weight of these vehicles and the charging time on your way home from work.
I admit that IF Tesla did sell more cars than any other manufacturer, that is impressive. You say that is a lot of "well healed" people. What is the number of cars sold that were under $50G?
Tesla did all of this despite no advertising and lots of Liberals and Conservatives hating on Elon.
The charging stations are not set up for a Cyber Truck, so you're fucked at most stations if towing. People have been having to disconnect a trailer to charge.
Looks like someone is having fun with their Cybertruck.
Eman says
Looks like someone is having fun with their Cybertruck.
Apparently there is a "boat mode" where the battery can seal itself to protect it from water.
Won't be long before people will be rigging up outboard boat motors using the 220 outlet for power.
Heard people have been renting the Cybertruck for $400-$800/day with 2-3 days minimum. They’re not kidding.
Eman says
Looks like someone is having fun with their Cybertruck.
Apparently there is a "boat mode" where the battery can seal itself to protect it from water.
Won't be long before people will be rigging up outboard boat motors using the 220 outlet for power.
Heard people have been renting the Cybertruck for $400-$800/day with 2-3 days minimum. They’re not kidding.
Eman says
Heard people have been renting the Cybertruck for $400-$800/day with 2-3 days minimum. They’re not kidding.
Got a beanie baby for me? Who the flying fuck would pay $400/day for a rental??? I know, a complete retard.
Even in urban areas I can easily get a car for $60/day from a reliable rental place that does the same thing. This is retardation on a scale I haven't seen really in my lifetime. But I know it's been posted. Companies and commercial speak more than than consumers that are blind. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/hertz-sell-about-20000-evs-us-fleet-2024-01-11/
Cyber Truck is a novelty that will die very quickly. Maybe 2 years.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Eman says
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Unequivocally false. That's the fucking payment per month for a day. That is pure retardation. 100%. Not even debatable. It's overpriced trash. Can't tow shit at mileage. It's a useless vehicle.
I'll give the sedans a chance, but they're also useless and don't work everywhere. Pure EV's are reaching market saturation. We still haven't even dealt with the one's that have 100k miles on them.
This is a stupid conversation that I know I'm right on. Tesla or whoever is not the future of cars. Legacy brands are with hybrids. Think what you want, you're wrong.
When the first batch of Cybertruck came out. The rental rate was $1-$1.2k/day.
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