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richwicks
2023 Oct 17, 9:35pm
richwicks
2023 Oct 17, 9:35pm
socal2 says
Normal American people think we just went through a pandemic. Normal American people can't name the last 7 nations the US has bombed. Normal American people don't even know that more children and adults are dead in missing in Maui than there were in Israel.
socal2 says
They "think" what the television tells them to think.
Please recall how dishonest our media is. You have no idea what is going on. I wouldn't be surprised if more than 100,000 people are killed in this. Normal Americans will cheer this on, and years later, will recognize "well, I was fucking genocidal maniac wasn't I? Oh well.. What's on TV?"
Normal American people not so much.
Normal American people think we just went through a pandemic. Normal American people can't name the last 7 nations the US has bombed. Normal American people don't even know that more children and adults are dead in missing in Maui than there were in Israel.
socal2 says
Anecdotal only, but many of my reliably Liberal and Palestinian sympathetic friends are basically done with the Palestinians after the Hamas attack.
They "think" what the television tells them to think.
Please recall how dishonest our media is. You have no idea what is going on. I wouldn't be surprised if more than 100,000 people are killed in this. Normal Americans will cheer this on, and years later, will recognize "well, I was fucking genocidal maniac wasn't I? Oh well.. What's on TV?"
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richwicks
2023 Oct 17, 10:16pm
richwicks
2023 Oct 17, 10:16pm
ad says
No, it's evil.
We never really rescued dogs, we picked who lived. When somebody is making more of them, it's undermining our ability to save another animal.
I gave it up, it's hopeless. People are too shit.
richwicks says
I used to do dog rescue, I encountered a woman breeding dogs and using the rescue group to sell them.
Its greedy and immoral, but not very evil if the dogs are not mistreated and eventually end up in better circumstances..
No, it's evil.
We never really rescued dogs, we picked who lived. When somebody is making more of them, it's undermining our ability to save another animal.
I gave it up, it's hopeless. People are too shit.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 17, 10:34pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 17, 10:34pm
Onvacation says
But they couldn't fabricate a half dozen 130mm Shells or 500lb bombs with banned chemicals and some symbols and Iraqi Army scribbles, put 'em on truck, bury them somewhere anything associated with Saddam's Government, and then find them a few days later when the US was all over Iraq for years. Handful of guys, tops. They wouldn't even have to know what they moved if they don't read Arabic.
The official story is that fire caused ALL THREE WTC towers to collapse.
But they couldn't fabricate a half dozen 130mm Shells or 500lb bombs with banned chemicals and some symbols and Iraqi Army scribbles, put 'em on truck, bury them somewhere anything associated with Saddam's Government, and then find them a few days later when the US was all over Iraq for years. Handful of guys, tops. They wouldn't even have to know what they moved if they don't read Arabic.
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Onvacation
2023 Oct 18, 5:15am
Onvacation
2023 Oct 18, 5:15am
socal2 says
That's the story the government wants us to believe. Do you believe fire made all three WTC towers fall?
But it was the uncontrolled fire that did it in.
That's the story the government wants us to believe. Do you believe fire made all three WTC towers fall?
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 18, 11:14pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 18, 11:14pm
AmericanKulak says
That movie is a total classic now.
No Matter How You Slice It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vESxCZe0HA
That movie is a total classic now.
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stfu
2023 Oct 19, 5:29am
Onvacation says
TL:DR > Yes the towers could have collapsed from the planes compromising the integrity of the outer walls and subsequent wind fueled fire.
I've long believed that all 3 buildings were taken down via explosives until recently I saw a 9/11 documentary series (netflix or prime, I don't remember) with a LOT of actual video footage - a camera was following around one of the firemen battalion chiefs that day as part of a documentary and they captured a LOT of footage - he was actually site commander for a little while because he was in the area (gas leak reported) when it happened. There's also a lot of footage from the ground which I had never seen before from other sources.
Anyway - things that I was not aware of before watching this :
1) The towers were not constructed the way most high rises are. There were no internal structural support members. The entire support structure was in the outer walls. The walls were the only load bearing structures in either of the two towers (and probably WTC7 as well). The reason for this was so that you could have an entire open floor and see from end to end, although I'm not sure how many floors actually were laid out that way. Once collapse started it was like a dropping deck of cards - each floor resulting in a loud BOOM (explosion). The firemen conversation about hearing 'loud explosions' refers to this collapse - it's been taken out of context by the conspiracy people.
2) In the initial plane crash, thousands of gallons of jet fuel went down an elevator shaft and resulted in an explosion and fire in the lobby level and these were some of the first deaths observed.
3) The scene pre and post tower collapse was apocalyptic. The fires were everywhere and were intense. More than just a corner of WTC7 was on fire - it looked like the whole damn building was one giant bonfire. I never really appreciated what a 'hell on earth' scenario it was until viewing this footage. I'm surprised the fires didn't spread to the rest of Manhattan. The video captures the firemen strategizing just outside the lobby (standing under a roof - maybe like a huge carport area?) and you can hear the bodies hitting the roof when people started jumping. The looks on the firemens' faces is telling - they know what's making those noises and choose not to discuss it (at least on camera). Picture yourself there - you can only see smoke or fire and the ground around you is littered with debris and bodies. Something out of Dante.
4) The firemen and rescue personnel didn't fully appreciate the danger they were in. I think if they had they would not have gone into the stairwells. People that made it out described (on camera) the wall/ ceiling cracks and popping that they observed on their way down. One woman comments that she believed the building was going to fall down at any moment. Initially it seems like the firemen were treating this like a typical high rise fire - going with protocol and displaying a bravado probably with the false belief that if they followed their training and were careful no bad things would happen to them. You can see the abrupt shift after the first tower collapsed. A lot of the professionals died that day. Suddenly there was panic among the professionals as they realized it truly was life or death. It's worth noting that there were a few stories of people who would simply not leave anyone behind (very few because compromised people don't move quickly). There was also at least one story of a person who put their own life ahead of anyone else - told by a survivor that was one of those 'one in a million' survival stories
5) We always hear about the 2,000+ that died that day but I've never seen a figure for how many people got evacuated in time. The documentary spends a lot of time interviewing people that made it out. Growing up we were always told that each tower could accommodate 50,000 people and I was always cynical that the buildings were at such a low % of capacity after 9am on a workday - but perhaps a lot more people were saved than I thought. It still doesn't jive though - where the towers were hit means that at least 15% of the occupants could not evacuate - so the death toll should have been 10,000+.
So, color me less cynical than I was before watching. I definitely believe this was a three letter operation (too many warnings were ignored and the passports? c'mon man) but I am less skeptical about the nature of the collapse. WTC7? The timing of the recent purchase and insurance certainly raises an eyebrow.
That's the story the government wants us to believe. Do you believe fire made all three WTC towers fall?
TL:DR > Yes the towers could have collapsed from the planes compromising the integrity of the outer walls and subsequent wind fueled fire.
I've long believed that all 3 buildings were taken down via explosives until recently I saw a 9/11 documentary series (netflix or prime, I don't remember) with a LOT of actual video footage - a camera was following around one of the firemen battalion chiefs that day as part of a documentary and they captured a LOT of footage - he was actually site commander for a little while because he was in the area (gas leak reported) when it happened. There's also a lot of footage from the ground which I had never seen before from other sources.
Anyway - things that I was not aware of before watching this :
1) The towers were not constructed the way most high rises are. There were no internal structural support members. The entire support structure was in the outer walls. The walls were the only load bearing structures in either of the two towers (and probably WTC7 as well). The reason for this was so that you could have an entire open floor and see from end to end, although I'm not sure how many floors actually were laid out that way. Once collapse started it was like a dropping deck of cards - each floor resulting in a loud BOOM (explosion). The firemen conversation about hearing 'loud explosions' refers to this collapse - it's been taken out of context by the conspiracy people.
2) In the initial plane crash, thousands of gallons of jet fuel went down an elevator shaft and resulted in an explosion and fire in the lobby level and these were some of the first deaths observed.
3) The scene pre and post tower collapse was apocalyptic. The fires were everywhere and were intense. More than just a corner of WTC7 was on fire - it looked like the whole damn building was one giant bonfire. I never really appreciated what a 'hell on earth' scenario it was until viewing this footage. I'm surprised the fires didn't spread to the rest of Manhattan. The video captures the firemen strategizing just outside the lobby (standing under a roof - maybe like a huge carport area?) and you can hear the bodies hitting the roof when people started jumping. The looks on the firemens' faces is telling - they know what's making those noises and choose not to discuss it (at least on camera). Picture yourself there - you can only see smoke or fire and the ground around you is littered with debris and bodies. Something out of Dante.
4) The firemen and rescue personnel didn't fully appreciate the danger they were in. I think if they had they would not have gone into the stairwells. People that made it out described (on camera) the wall/ ceiling cracks and popping that they observed on their way down. One woman comments that she believed the building was going to fall down at any moment. Initially it seems like the firemen were treating this like a typical high rise fire - going with protocol and displaying a bravado probably with the false belief that if they followed their training and were careful no bad things would happen to them. You can see the abrupt shift after the first tower collapsed. A lot of the professionals died that day. Suddenly there was panic among the professionals as they realized it truly was life or death. It's worth noting that there were a few stories of people who would simply not leave anyone behind (very few because compromised people don't move quickly). There was also at least one story of a person who put their own life ahead of anyone else - told by a survivor that was one of those 'one in a million' survival stories
5) We always hear about the 2,000+ that died that day but I've never seen a figure for how many people got evacuated in time. The documentary spends a lot of time interviewing people that made it out. Growing up we were always told that each tower could accommodate 50,000 people and I was always cynical that the buildings were at such a low % of capacity after 9am on a workday - but perhaps a lot more people were saved than I thought. It still doesn't jive though - where the towers were hit means that at least 15% of the occupants could not evacuate - so the death toll should have been 10,000+.
So, color me less cynical than I was before watching. I definitely believe this was a three letter operation (too many warnings were ignored and the passports? c'mon man) but I am less skeptical about the nature of the collapse. WTC7? The timing of the recent purchase and insurance certainly raises an eyebrow.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Oct 19, 6:36am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Oct 19, 6:36am
This fellow thinks Syria is the target of the US military buildup. Regime change and kicking the Russkies out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72-hjWHiz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72-hjWHiz4
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 20, 6:01pm
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 20, 6:01pm
Is America really ready to fight a major war?
68% of US troops are overweight, including 21% who are obese ... why are we trying to get involved in World War 3 again? (They may be fat and out of shape, but hey, at least they're woke)
https://notthebee.com/article/68-percent-of-us-soldiers-are-overweight/
68% of US troops are overweight, including 21% who are obese ... why are we trying to get involved in World War 3 again? (They may be fat and out of shape, but hey, at least they're woke)
https://notthebee.com/article/68-percent-of-us-soldiers-are-overweight/
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AD
2023 Oct 20, 7:51pm
AD
2023 Oct 20, 7:51pm
RayAmerica says
not as many going to be 'fighting' in caves or trenches ...you think about a fighting force that is infantry and marching 20 miles in a day ... look at the "troops" in Afghanistan ...did they have more than 30,000 fighting troops such as infantry on the front line out of a military of about 2 million active duty ?
Is America really ready to fight a major war?
68% of US troops are overweight, including 21% who are obese ... why are we trying to get involved in World War 3 again? (They may be fat and out of shape, but hey, at least they're woke)
not as many going to be 'fighting' in caves or trenches ...you think about a fighting force that is infantry and marching 20 miles in a day ... look at the "troops" in Afghanistan ...did they have more than 30,000 fighting troops such as infantry on the front line out of a military of about 2 million active duty ?
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 20, 7:53pm
Ceffer
2023 Oct 20, 7:53pm
Hamas is in negotiations to pay Greta to start backing Israel instead of Gaza.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 20, 9:48pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 20, 9:48pm
If BLM, Antifa, University Radicals (Students AND Professors), The Left, Accomplishment-free Influencer Bitchute Bloviators, Iranian, Syrian, Russian Media, PMSNBC, most of the OpEds in NYT and WaPo, and now Greta on your side...
Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong.
Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 20, 9:51pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 20, 9:51pm
BTW, notice the near total absence of activity from Fatah on the West Bank. It's almost as if they wouldn't mind either outcome, Hamas gone or Israeli defeat is equally beneficial to them.
But don't expect the great Wise Bitchuters to point that out, if they've thought about that for one second - their MintPress News/Globalresearch.ca sources didn't put that in their heads.
But don't expect the great Wise Bitchuters to point that out, if they've thought about that for one second - their MintPress News/Globalresearch.ca sources didn't put that in their heads.
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AD
2023 Oct 20, 10:25pm
AD
2023 Oct 20, 10:25pm
AmericanKulak says
yeah, i was wondering if mahmoud abbas was going to be a political liability to hamas, iran, and terrorist network by him not doing anything...
abbas sitting on his hands is not good for the optics as far as rallying their terrorist cause ...
they could try to assassinate abbas and pin this on israel ...
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BTW, notice the near total absence of activity from Fatah on the West Bank. It's almost as if they wouldn't mind either outcome, Hamas gone or Israeli defeat is equally beneficial to them.
yeah, i was wondering if mahmoud abbas was going to be a political liability to hamas, iran, and terrorist network by him not doing anything...
abbas sitting on his hands is not good for the optics as far as rallying their terrorist cause ...
they could try to assassinate abbas and pin this on israel ...
.
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richwicks
2023 Oct 20, 10:35pm
richwicks
2023 Oct 20, 10:35pm
ad says
The West Bank and Gaza are like Pakistan and Bangladesh now.
yeah, i was wondering if mahmoud abbas was going to be a political liability to hamas, iran, and terrorist network by him not doing anything...
The West Bank and Gaza are like Pakistan and Bangladesh now.
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Patrick
2023 Oct 22, 9:17am
Patrick
2023 Oct 22, 9:17am
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/world-war-3-watch-pentagon-announces-prepare-deploy/
Secretary Austin outlined three major steps to strengthen the U.S. military’s position in the Middle East.
Redirecting Naval Assets:
The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group has been redirected to the Central Command area of responsibility. This move is in addition to the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group, which is currently operating in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. The presence of two carrier strike groups significantly enhances the U.S. Navy’s capabilities in the region.
Deployment of Missile Defense Systems:
A Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery, along with additional Patriot battalions, will be deployed to various locations throughout the Middle East. These systems will provide increased protection for U.S. forces stationed in the region.
Prepare to Deploy Orders:
An unspecified number of U.S. forces have been placed under “prepare to deploy” orders. This move is part of prudent contingency planning and aims to increase the readiness and responsiveness of these forces.
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 23, 6:34am
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 23, 6:34am
Patrick says
To do fucking what?
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Not much in the PG. Iran is seizing oil tankers will nilly and we won't take out Karg Island.
Oh...and the carrier groups are in the Med anyway.
And what navy are wr going to attack there? The Gaza Coast Guard?
The presence of two carrier strike groups significantly enhances the U.S. Navy’s capabilities in the region.
To do fucking what?
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Not much in the PG. Iran is seizing oil tankers will nilly and we won't take out Karg Island.
Oh...and the carrier groups are in the Med anyway.
And what navy are wr going to attack there? The Gaza Coast Guard?
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zzyzzx
2023 Oct 23, 6:49am
zzyzzx
2023 Oct 23, 6:49am
GasTheYoungTurks says
Enforce the blockade on the Gaza coast?
And what navy are wr going to attack there? The Gaza Coast Guard?
Enforce the blockade on the Gaza coast?
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zzyzzx
2023 Oct 23, 6:49am
zzyzzx
2023 Oct 23, 6:49am
richwicks says
They have been like that for years, probably several decades.
The West Bank and Gaza are like Pakistan and Bangladesh now.
They have been like that for years, probably several decades.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 7:18am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 7:18am
REPORT: Over 12,000 US Troops Aboard 10 Warships Advance to Middle East
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/report-12000-us-troops-aboard-10-warships-advance/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/report-12000-us-troops-aboard-10-warships-advance/
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AD
2023 Oct 23, 10:53am
AD
2023 Oct 23, 10:53am
RayAmerica says
yes, a vast majority are US Marines .... not sure why they would want US boots-on-the-ground instead of just launching air strikes from the carrier such on Hezbollah and Iranian forces invading from southern Syria and southern Lebanon
REPORT: Over 12,000 US Troops Aboard 10 Warships Advance to Middle East
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/report-12000-us-troops-aboard-10-warships-advance/
yes, a vast majority are US Marines .... not sure why they would want US boots-on-the-ground instead of just launching air strikes from the carrier such on Hezbollah and Iranian forces invading from southern Syria and southern Lebanon
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AD
2023 Oct 23, 11:57am
AD
2023 Oct 23, 11:57am
GasTheYoungTurks says
Yeah, the F-18's and F-35's (STOVL version) deployed from the carriers and assault ships can deliver precision-guided bombs. So they provide air support to the ground forces. They are a mobile air strip and air base.
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zzyzzx says
Enforce the blockade on the Gaza coast?
You don't use carriers for that.
Yeah, the F-18's and F-35's (STOVL version) deployed from the carriers and assault ships can deliver precision-guided bombs. So they provide air support to the ground forces. They are a mobile air strip and air base.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 7:57pm
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 7:57pm
Tucker Carlson and Colonel Douglas Macgregor Warn of Potential Conflict With Iran; Are We Ready?
Iran's allies? Russia and China. War with Iran would enflame the entire region that could easily lead to World War III.
Macgregor: "We are moving towards war with Iran."
https://rumble.com/v3r9ncx-tucker-carlson-and-colonel-douglas-macgregor-warn-of-potential-conflict-wit.html
Iran's allies? Russia and China. War with Iran would enflame the entire region that could easily lead to World War III.
Macgregor: "We are moving towards war with Iran."
https://rumble.com/v3r9ncx-tucker-carlson-and-colonel-douglas-macgregor-warn-of-potential-conflict-wit.html
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 8:20pm
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 8:20pm
HIGH ALERT! China and Putin move warships into position, Israel warns Iran | Redacted News
Show actually starts at the 34 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/v3r819t-high-alert-china-and-putin-move-warships-into-position-israel-warns-iran-re.html
Show actually starts at the 34 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/v3r819t-high-alert-china-and-putin-move-warships-into-position-israel-warns-iran-re.html
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komputodo
2023 Oct 23, 9:08pm
komputodo
2023 Oct 23, 9:08pm
RayAmerica says
I hope we get warned in time to crawl under our desks
HIGH ALERT! China and Putin move warships into position, Israel warns Iran | Redacted News
Show actually starts at the 34 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/v3r819t-high-alert-china-and-putin-move-warships-into-position-israel-warns-iran-re.html
I hope we get warned in time to crawl under our desks
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 24, 4:01am
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 24, 4:01am
RayAmerica says
What position?
HIGH ALERT! China and Putin move warships into position, Israel warns Iran | Redacted News
Show actually starts at the 34 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/v3r819t-high-alert-china-and-putin-move-warships-into-position-israel-warns-iran-re.html
What position?
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 5:31am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 5:31am
komputodo says
Excellent reminder. Remember too that if you're not near a desk, and you see a flash, duck and hide. And don't forget to cover your head. I feel better already.
I hope we get warned in time to crawl under our desks
Excellent reminder. Remember too that if you're not near a desk, and you see a flash, duck and hide. And don't forget to cover your head. I feel better already.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 9:53am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 9:53am
It's not good, it's Overblown Propaganda:
"Lied about Pearl Harbor" - Uh, Vals from multiple IJN Carriers didn't descend on Pearl Harbor and dive bomb ships at anchor?
Remember that Japan attacked US Shipping in China, disturbed our trade with China which was a big destination for US Exports, and started serveral wars of aggression with China. And the Japanese thirst for the food production and resources of the Philippenes was noted for years.
The First Iraq War didn't involve Saddam invading Kuwait and raiding into Saudi Arabia and launching missiles at neutral countries?
"Keep US Troops in Syria" - Really? What line regular formations were involved in the Syrian Civil War?
"Lied about the Luisitania" - What? The US has freedom of the seas. The Kaiser paid Clan na Gael to put bombs on US Ships and poison US Horse herds when we were neutral. We're going to sell corn and beans to France and Britain and if Germany tries to stop it with force, that's an act of war.
It's just another kind of 1690 to erase US Heroism, righteous response to foreign aggression, and Military Valor.
"Lied about Pearl Harbor" - Uh, Vals from multiple IJN Carriers didn't descend on Pearl Harbor and dive bomb ships at anchor?
Remember that Japan attacked US Shipping in China, disturbed our trade with China which was a big destination for US Exports, and started serveral wars of aggression with China. And the Japanese thirst for the food production and resources of the Philippenes was noted for years.
The First Iraq War didn't involve Saddam invading Kuwait and raiding into Saudi Arabia and launching missiles at neutral countries?
"Keep US Troops in Syria" - Really? What line regular formations were involved in the Syrian Civil War?
"Lied about the Luisitania" - What? The US has freedom of the seas. The Kaiser paid Clan na Gael to put bombs on US Ships and poison US Horse herds when we were neutral. We're going to sell corn and beans to France and Britain and if Germany tries to stop it with force, that's an act of war.
It's just another kind of 1690 to erase US Heroism, righteous response to foreign aggression, and Military Valor.
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Eric Holder
2023 Oct 24, 9:59am
Eric Holder
2023 Oct 24, 9:59am
AmericanKulak says
WE PROVOKED HIM!!!
The First Iraq War didn't involve Saddam invading Kuwait and raiding into Saudi Arabia and launching missiles at neutral countries?
WE PROVOKED HIM!!!
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Eric Holder
2023 Oct 24, 10:04am
Eric Holder
2023 Oct 24, 10:04am
AmericanKulak says
The butthurt stems from the episode when some Green Beret types called an arty/air strike on a bunch of Vaginer troops who decided to attack a Kurdish ouptost where they were stationed and wasted some 300 of these fuckers. The screeching hasn't stopped since. =))
"Keep US Troops in Syria" - Really? What line regular formations were involved in the Syrian Civil War?
The butthurt stems from the episode when some Green Beret types called an arty/air strike on a bunch of Vaginer troops who decided to attack a Kurdish ouptost where they were stationed and wasted some 300 of these fuckers. The screeching hasn't stopped since. =))
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:16am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:16am
I hate to say this, AmericanKulak, but I think you've been primed to accept all the war narratives that the American Government, which has loved war for well over 100 years, is telling you.
It's the very same government that is encouraging you to take a dangerous experimental 'vaccine,' which is turning out to be flat out genocide.
It's the very same government that is encouraging you to take a dangerous experimental 'vaccine,' which is turning out to be flat out genocide.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:19am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:19am
AmericanKulak says
They lied for over 70 years that BOTH the diplomatic AND military Japanese codes were broken. Our wonderful government knew, in advance, that the attack was coming. Literally, the carrier attack force was being tracked, and Pearl was never notified that they were steaming towards them.
"Lied about Pearl Harbor" - Uh, Vals from multiple IJN Carriers didn't descend on Pearl Harbor and dive bomb ships at anchor?
They lied for over 70 years that BOTH the diplomatic AND military Japanese codes were broken. Our wonderful government knew, in advance, that the attack was coming. Literally, the carrier attack force was being tracked, and Pearl was never notified that they were steaming towards them.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 10:22am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 10:22am
And you didn't even mention the intentional provocation of US government blocking oil deliveries, and a number of other actions basically begging Japan to start a war with them.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:24am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:24am
AmericanKulak says
The lie about the Lusitania is that the Germans took out ads in American newspapers warning passengers that ships that were known to be carrying armaments would be considered an act of war against them. The fact is, passengers of the Lusitania were never informed that it was carrying armaments. The American media, the spokesmen for the warmongers in Washington, hid that fact from the American people while playing up the atrocity of the sinking.
War is hell, and it's the civilians that usually end up paying the highest price because they are the innocents of war.
"Truth is always the first casualty of war."
"Lied about the Luisitania"
The lie about the Lusitania is that the Germans took out ads in American newspapers warning passengers that ships that were known to be carrying armaments would be considered an act of war against them. The fact is, passengers of the Lusitania were never informed that it was carrying armaments. The American media, the spokesmen for the warmongers in Washington, hid that fact from the American people while playing up the atrocity of the sinking.
War is hell, and it's the civilians that usually end up paying the highest price because they are the innocents of war.
"Truth is always the first casualty of war."
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:27am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:27am
No, I know 1619 demoralization bullshit when I see it.
The Japanese bombed Pearl Habor after years of declining relations; and they were lying to State Department negotiators knowing they were going to attack the US for months before December 1941 to buy time. Then Hitler declared war on us.
The Kaiser paid saboteurs to put bombs on US Shipping, blow up a Nitrate storage facility at Black Tom, paid Mexican bandits to raid over the US border, and sank our neutral ships that have a right to sell donkeys and grain to whomever we damned feel like as a sovereign state with Freedom of the Seas.
We have to take a 2-3% GDP wallop because the Kaiser doesn't want us selling to our top 3 trade partners because HE is at war with them? Fuck outta here.
Saddam invaded Kuwait. We never gave "permission". Saddam mentioned he might take action to prevent side-drilling and asked if we had a problem with that. It was misunderstood that he was meant to side drill back into Kuwait or knock out a few rigs to teach Kuwait a lesson, not invade the whole country.
No 82nd Airborne or 24th Mech Inf was ever sent to Syria. Trump cleaned up ISIS in weeks by simply allowing A-10s to BRRRRRt the fuck out of ISIS tanker trucks going into Turkey.
The Gulf of Tonkin was fog of war shit, but it's also true that the Soviets were dumping a shitload of weapons into North Vietnam. You know, this thing called a Cold War where the two sides reacted to each other out whenever one made a move.
"America was built on slavery... and all our wars were evil where we were the aggressor" are the TWO prongs of the demoralization process.
The Japanese bombed Pearl Habor after years of declining relations; and they were lying to State Department negotiators knowing they were going to attack the US for months before December 1941 to buy time. Then Hitler declared war on us.
The Kaiser paid saboteurs to put bombs on US Shipping, blow up a Nitrate storage facility at Black Tom, paid Mexican bandits to raid over the US border, and sank our neutral ships that have a right to sell donkeys and grain to whomever we damned feel like as a sovereign state with Freedom of the Seas.
We have to take a 2-3% GDP wallop because the Kaiser doesn't want us selling to our top 3 trade partners because HE is at war with them? Fuck outta here.
Saddam invaded Kuwait. We never gave "permission". Saddam mentioned he might take action to prevent side-drilling and asked if we had a problem with that. It was misunderstood that he was meant to side drill back into Kuwait or knock out a few rigs to teach Kuwait a lesson, not invade the whole country.
No 82nd Airborne or 24th Mech Inf was ever sent to Syria. Trump cleaned up ISIS in weeks by simply allowing A-10s to BRRRRRt the fuck out of ISIS tanker trucks going into Turkey.
The Gulf of Tonkin was fog of war shit, but it's also true that the Soviets were dumping a shitload of weapons into North Vietnam. You know, this thing called a Cold War where the two sides reacted to each other out whenever one made a move.
"America was built on slavery... and all our wars were evil where we were the aggressor" are the TWO prongs of the demoralization process.
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 24, 5:35pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 24, 5:35pm
AmericanKulak says
Which is the dombest thing Hitler did. Because a) he wasn't obligated to do so under the Axis pact because Japan attacked America and b) Congress only declared war on Japan.
Then Hitler declared war on us.
Which is the dombest thing Hitler did. Because a) he wasn't obligated to do so under the Axis pact because Japan attacked America and b) Congress only declared war on Japan.
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