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RWSGFY says

Nobody really cares about "failed vaccine" all that much anyway

Really?

Nobody cares about the sudden death of so many young and healthy people?

Maybe it's just you that doesn't care.

Patrick says

Admittedly, it’s a bold, 9/11-level conspiracy theory, but so far it’s the only fact-based theory going.

Again the problem here is your source article list zero citations. That plus the fact that Netanyahu is former Mossad makes this incredibly unlikely.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/why-isnt-israel-more-focused-on-the

Why isn't Israel more focused on the Hamas leaders in Qatar?

Hamas committed crimes against humanity - not Jews, humanity - on Oct. 7. Why are its top officials living in luxury in Qatar's skyscrapers and villas?

Osama bin Laden was Saudi. Not Afghan.

But after bin Laden planned the Sept. 11 attacks from camps in Afghanistan, no one doubted the United States could demand Afghanistan’s Taliban government evict him - and attack Afghanistan if the Talibs refused.

The leaders of Hamas are Palestinian. Not Qatari.

Yet two weeks after a Hamas attack on Israel that in its barbarity dwarfed Sept. 11, they continue to live in luxury in Qatar, a tiny Persian Gulf city-state.

As it prepares to invade the Gaza Strip, home to the Hamas fighters who slaughtered over 1,400 Israeli civilians, Israel seems to have forgotten its claim on Qatar, home to the men behind that slaughter.

In a conflict that is both necessary and has no good answers, focusing pressure on Qatar and attacking Hamas’s leaders there directly may be Israel’s cleanest short-term play, giving it the best hope of holding the moral high ground.

(Why? And how might Israel handle Qatar? Answers below the paywall.)

(Welcome to Qatar, American servicemen and -ladies. You’ll enjoy the pleasant 130-degree desert heat, the camels, and the proximity to one of the world’s most vicious terrorist groups!)

Until now, Qatar was probably best known for hosting the 2022 World Cup and for being less cool than Dubai, its high-flying, model-hosting neighbor to the east.

A thumb-shaped peninsula 40 miles wide and 100 miles long, Qatar has 2.7 million residents, but only 315,000 citizens, about 1/25000th of the world’s population. It also has 11 percent of the world’s proven natural gas reserves, giving it hydrocarbons - and money - to burn.

Like Kuwait and other super-rich ministates of the Gulf, Qatar’s main preoccupation is its continued existence. For a generation, its leaders have walked a fine line, trying to convince its neighbors that it can play the role of a semi-honest broker in the Muslim world. Qatar is Sunni Muslim, but it works with Iran, which is Shia, as well as the Taliban in Afghanistan, who are hardline Sunni.

Qatar has also made itself a crucial ally to the American military by hosting a huge American air field, the Al Udeid Air Base. With over 11,000 airmen and soldiers, Al Udeid has become the largest United States military installation in the Middle East.

Amazingly, Qatar built its relationship with the United States even as it actively supported Hamas and other Islamist terror groups.

To some extent, Qatar has spent the last 20 years playing the same game Saudi Arabia once did. It funds terror groups (always outside its borders, of course) to keep its Muslim bonafides, while at the same time helping the United States knock them down.

The Saudis realized the limits of these schemes after Sept. 11, and Qatar’s support for radical Islam and its relationship with Iran grew to frustrate Saudi Arabia so deeply that in 2017 it blockaded Qatar. But the Saudis never invaded - how could they, given the huge American base 20 miles from central Doha? - and in 2021 they dropped the blockade.

But of all the games Qatar played, helping Hamas was in some ways the lowest risk.

Arab and Muslim countries have little choice but to support Palestinians against Israel. And under Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu, Israel itself allowed Qatar to funnel money to Hamas for most of the last decade.

Netanyahu knew that as long as Hamas - whose charter demands the destruction of Israel - controlled Gaza, Israel would not face serious pressure to make peace with Palestinians. His plan was to keep life in Gaza barely tolerable as Israel continued to prosper and moved settlers into the other Palestinian territories West Bank (and negotiate a broader peace with other Arab countries).

The slaughter of Oct. 7 - in which Hamas terrorists killed the equivalent of 50,000 Americans - has blown up Netanyahu’s cynical scheme. (I know some conservative and Israeli readers complain about this framing of the situation, but the truth is what it is.)

So, no, Israel can no longer live with Hamas. It must destroy the group, or die trying.

But as Israel tries, it must ensure that the world doesn’t entirely turn against it.

And it must at least give the civilians of Gaza a chance to leave Hamas behind. Not that they will, necessarily. They may hate Jews more than they love life. Then again, they may not.

Part of the answer to those puzzles lies in Qatar. Israel must keep the focus on the atrocities of Oct. 7, the atrocities that started this war, and on the men behind them.

It must demand that Qatar no longer harbor the leadership of Hamas - Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas political chief, and the rest of the officials who, directly or indirectly, ordered the beheadings and ritual executions and slaughter of more than 1,000 people.

Haniyeh and the rest can take their chances in Gaza with the people they claim to represent. (Israel should even guarantee their safe passage.) They can turn themselves in and try the International Civilian Court. Or they can submit directly to Israeli justice, the way that Adolf Eichmann and other Nazis did in the decades after the Nuremberg courts closed.

Whatever choice they make, they’ll have more of a chance than the Jews their men slaughtered two weeks ago.

Bibi Netanyahu is in a bad position to make this demand. Doing so will throw the spotlight on the way he worked with Qatar to help Hamas. But he must, and if he will not, the Israeli government must find a leader who can.

Of course, Qatar will not agree to those conditions (though if the United States puts enough pressure on it, it might tell the Hamas leadership to head across the Gulf to Iran - a step that Haniyeh would surely prefer not to take as it would make Hamas even more dependent on Iran).

But simply by asking, Israel will put the spotlight on the atrocities, the men who ordered them, and the regimes that support those men. And it will also put Qatar on public notice that it intends to assassinate every leader of Hamas it can find, and that if Qatar will not evict them Qatar’s own civilians will be at risk.

Those actions wouldn’t be unethical, much less illegal. They are exactly the tack the United States took in Afghanistan 22 years ago.

Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead.

What the world needs is not more war, but attacks on the people at the very top who are arranging wars and terrorist attacks and mass injection campaigns.

I suspect they all have "gentelmen's agreements" to not whack each other.

A flashing red light that MI6/Tavistock/RIIA Brits are purposely stoking the Uniside conflict. Is their spearhead servant state ripe for harvest?

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/120941

Yeah, they are going to cave just because of that.

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/120943

Really, how many different ways can Bibi fuck the pooch? He refers to two other false flags? Is he broadcasting his own purposeful false flag as if everybody is completely gobsmacked idiot that previous notorious false flags were somehow real history?

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/111075

This is something I've worried about and seen getting progressively worse since the Scamdemic. People have invested so much of their personal worth in lies, that they are now progressively committing more and more to fictional realities, fragmenting the truth in such a way that they may struggle for years to come back from, if they ever do.

Literally creating their own Matrix/prison for their mind.

As I suspected the Israel establishment which has been conspiring and stablng Bibi in the back at every turn. Was behind the intelligence lapse that allowed the attack, and why the security forces stood down, to allow Hamas to butcher the innocent civilians.
Bibi's response to Hamas must also equally address the rogue bad actors in his deep state, that is in lockstep with the NWO to thwart populist leaders, trying to end the Global cabal. If he does not then he is equally at fault and part of the problem. I think this was done so he would take the fall for it, and finally be expelled from power. If you remember he was persecuted and robbed of a previous election, and almost thrown in jail. The same playbook that persecuted Balsinario, Trump and several other populist leaders.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/netanyahu-sets-record-straight-accuses-top-generals-not/

If I were Bibi, I would capture the Hamas leadership alive, and turn the screws on them to name some names.

He's former Mossad, very unlikely conspiracy theory. Much more likely he's taking way more shit than he anticipated from this, and is attempting to spread the shit around.

And just so I understand you consider people who enforce Scamdemic's to be populists? See especially Israel where restrictions where way beyond most countries.

Most plausible reason I've heard thus for for the 10/7 false flag, dumping more refugees on Western countries:

https://youtu.be/Ciqq-FTY_qU

NuttBoxer says

He's former Mossad, very unlikely conspiracy theory

Like we're finally seeing with Democrats. Ugly factions always rear their heads, and will do what ever it takes to get in power, and to get rid of those that threaten that. He's old guard, the new guard stands with the Pink Haired Woke Lilly Boy's nonsense. A little to squishy in the pants, I don't think Bibi had anything to do with the planning. But he like Trump are responsible for not weeding out their backstabbers.
Just look how immediately after the attack, there was talk of some Committee government that was going to take over the response. They were going to cover up their involvement. He must have put that to rest, you don't hear about it anymore.

Yada, yada. They are all preaching the extermination of each other. Old Testament blather for the Uniside harvests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6dSiI63O70

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231701

https://t.me/WW3INFO/27088

America's 'closest ally' ...

Israel Told US ‘Mass Civilian Casualties’ Were Acceptable Price of Gaza Campaign

The Pentagon has said there are 'no limits' on how Israel uses its US-provided weapons despite the massive child death toll

Israel’s plans for mass slaughter in Gaza and the growing child death toll have not impacted US support. The Times report focused on how the Biden administration is paying lip service to the idea of limiting civilian casualties, but it acknowledged they’re not telling Israel what to do, only asking questions.

According to Gaza’s Health Ministry, at least 8,500 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza since Israel unleashed its bombing campaign after the October 7 Hamas attack. The total includes over 3,500 children.

More here: https://news.antiwar.com/2023/10/31/israel-told-us-mass-civilian-casualties-were-acceptable-price-of-gaza-campaign/

RayAmerica says

The Pentagon has said there are 'no limits' on how Israel uses its US-provided weapons despite the massive child death toll

Don't vote for Islamists to run your country that you refuse to make a country, because then the billions in "Refugee" money turns off, even though you live in a CBS 8-story high rise one block from a multistory mall.

Losing wars of aggression has consequences.

AmericanKulak says

Losing wars of aggression has consequences.

Yeah - that's the rule for everyone else.

But the Jew haters have special rules for Israel.

Whatever side you think is right, this is an accurate depiction:

socal2 says

Losing wars of aggression has consequences.

Yeah - that's the rule for everyone else.

But the Jew haters have special rules for Israel.

I'm pretty sure the Nazi German officers were hanged later for war crimes despite them hiring thugs pretending to be Poles invading Germany and destroying a radio station (i.e. false flag operation as Causus Belli, and it doesn't exculpate war crimes). They didn't even go so far as to killing Polish children en masse during the Polish campaign of 1939. More Nazi officers were hanged later for emptying the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. For quite some time, the Nazis were very victorious; then it was their turn to be harvested.

Tenpoundbass says

Like we're finally seeing with Democrats. Ugly factions always rear their heads, and will do what ever it takes to get in power, and to get rid of those that threaten that. He's old guard, the new guard stands with the Pink Haired Woke Lilly Boy's nonsense.

You're projecting an American mentality on people who have never, and will never be that way. As many people as they've fucked with in their region, they can't afford to. I'm really at a loss how you can be so far off base here.

https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/6167.html

Avital Livny Giving Evidence About Testimony Project In Israel To Grand Jury Day 6
February 26, 2022

https://rumble.com/vw0vo1-avital-livny-giving-evidence-about-testimony-project-in-israel-to-grand-jur.html
https://odysee.com/@GrandJury:f/Grand-Jury-Day-6-en-online:7

When the vaccinating— so-called vaccinating, sorry, that's the terminology that I'm using because I'm dealing with people that use it and I have to talk to them even though I don't think of it as vaccines anymore— but when it started in Israel, soon after, I think, two months or three months after, I already started hearing about people experiencing side effects, people that I know around me. The numbers went up as time went by. And I also started noticing people on FaceBook posting posts telling about what happened to them after getting the shots. And the dozens became hundreds, and yet in the Israeli media there was nothing. Everything is perfect, no side effects.

And also I noticed that whenever somebody posted a post telling about what he experienced, the side effects he experienced, he immediately got comments like "Fake News," "Lies of Unvaccinated People," "Anti-Vaxx People," and I knew right away that the only way to stop this, and to bring the truth out, is only with video testimonies because once you see the person's face, speaking from his heart about his tragedy, in your guts you know when it's not fake. You know.

But all the organizations that were involved at the time with the testimonies and with collecting the details and the data, when I contacted them they told me that it was impossible to get people to testify on camera since they were afraid. So I waited. I was hoping that somebody will do it. But eventually when I saw that the Israeli government is not stopping, that they're not going to investigate any of those reports and, on the contrary, they went full power ahead and started giving the shots to the 16 and 18 year-old teenagers, as a mother of two, I decided that I have to try and do it myself.

I went inside private groups on FaceBook of people who got injured from the vaccine, this was the title of the groups, and started going over, there were already thousands of testimonies there, posts, comments. I went over thousands of them and contacted hundreds of them though Messenger, introducing myself and telling them about the project that I was going to do. But almost all of them didn't want to do it, they were too afraid to come out with their stories.

And Ilana mentioned it before, you have to understand that the atmosphere in Israel since the so-called vaccination started is so violent, so toxic. A lot of hate, fear. Families are falling apart, getting divided between vaccinated and unvaccinated, and no wonder since, as Ilana told you our own prime minister, the incitement against the unvaccinated is unbelievable. And he was caught on camera saying, at the beginning of his being prime minister, he was saying that the unvaccinated people are like people going on the street with a machine gun spraying a deadly virus all over. And as she said, he was saying, when they started giving the shots to children in schools, "I want the parents of the vaccinated children to fight with the parents of the unvaccinated children."

So, no wonder people were afraid for their jobs, of what their colleagues and friends would say, and they didn't want to come out with their stories. So in order to give them a sense of confidence and safety, I gave them my word that I will not publish anything before I have at least 40 testimonies.

Three and half months later, the project was ready. It became a heartbreaking documentary of an hour and seven minutes. It was released five months ago, already translated to 15 different languages. Only in our website it was, it got more than 2 million views. And still, on the Israeli media, nothing. The majority of the Israeli people never heard of the testimonies project. You get the feeling that they want to shut it down, they want no one to know of the side effects.

As Ilana said, there was this post of the Israeli Minister of Health, they deleted thousands of comments of people saying what happened to them, instead of reaching out to them and checking the information.

Not a lot of people know but in Israel, there is no normal system, until not long ago, there was no normal effective system to collect data and reports of side effects, unlike the American VAERS [Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System]. People who, most of the people don't even know that they should or are supposed to report. And the people from my project when they tried to send in a report they told me it was impossible At the time you had limitation of words, and you could only choose from several side effects. So if you had something different you couldn't put in the report. And the most important thing, no transparency. So you have no idea what happened to your report, you cannot see other reports and compare data. The whole idea of transparency in the American system, the VAERS, is that researchers, doctors, scientists, they can go inside the data, they can do their statistics and see if there are patterns. In some of the side effects indicate, that this is probably this is from the vaccination, from the shot. In Israel, we are the laboratory of the world but we don't have a system like that.

And in the American VAERS it's mostly doctors who send in the reports. In Israel, a woman in my project, her name is Esty, she got heart problems, she asked her doctor, "Are you going to report this?" he told her, "It's not my job to report. If you want, go ahead and report it." Most of the doctors are not willing even to write on the same page on the injury, where they're supposed to put the data, that that this person two days ago had also he got the Pfizer shot. They're not willing to write it down. So as I said, you have the feeling that they try to shut it down.

Avital Livny is the initiator of the Testimony Project, Israel
Watch: The Testimonies Project (Israel) https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/

Ilana Rachel Daniel, previous speaker, https://rappeh.org.il/en/biography-ilana-rachel-daniel/

VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html
Note: https://openvaers.com/covid-data provides VAERS data in a more reader-friendly presentation.

Palestinian terrorists in the Gaza Strip have fired more than 9,500 rockets at Israeli territory since Hamas launched its multi-pronged attack on the Jewish state one month ago, according to data published by the Israeli Foreign Ministry on Tuesday.

Jerusalem said the numbers are not final and are constantly being updated. Throughout Tuesday, multiple air-raid sirens were activated in central Israel and localities near the border with Gaza.

Some 1,400 people have been murdered in Israel since Oct. 7, while 7,198 more have been wounded.
https://www.israel365news.com/378657/israel-almost-10000-rockets-fired-from-gaza-since-oct-7/

And on the other side, because people murdered, regardless of the location, matter right..? And terrorism, regardless of WHO initiates it, is still terrorism, right..?

6,500 Palestinian's, mostly women and children.

Everyone was warned to evacuate northern Gaza. At this point those who didn’t are not innocent victims, but rather the ones who chose to stay with the terrorists.

I hope you never have to learn what it is like to live next door to terrorists with a well funded arsenal and years of indoctrination. So now you stand with Mohammedans? It’s the Jews fault that they were attacked? Well, we shall see when God hands down His verdict.

I’m not taking sides. But I know if the drug cartels lobbed 9500 rockets into Texas in the past month, we would begin to know how Israel feels.

PeopleUnited says

Everyone was warned to evacuate northern Gaza. At this point those who didn’t are not innocent victims, but rather the ones who chose to stay with the terrorists.

A pronouncement remarkably similar to what the original Nazis made as they started to clear out the Warsaw Ghetto.

I hope you never have to learn what it is like to live next door to terrorists with a well funded arsenal and years of indoctrination.

Do you live in the US? Are you living close to DC or NYC? If you are, then you are living next door to terrorists according to much of the rest of the world; if you are living far away from DC or NYC, then you are living close to (domestic) terrorists according to those in DC (and NYC ad agencies / media). Pick your poison.

So now you stand with Mohammedans? It’s the Jews fault that they were attacked? Well, we shall see when God hands down His verdict.

What do you have against Mohammed the Jew? (or at least a scholar in Judaism if not a bunch of Jewish scholars who wrote Koran using that pen name). Why do you think descendants of Jews in the middle east who converted to Islam (a version of Judaism designed to make the sand people submissive) deserve to be exterminated by Europeans and descendants of Asiatic Steppes people who converted to the original version of Judaism? If you are in full support of the project of having 3% Semites (Jews) ruling over 97% Semites (Arabs) between the Nile and the Euphrates (the original "promised land"), are you also in support of the analogous implementation of having 3% (Jews) ruling over 97% (Gentiles) in the US? Do you actually believe such a project would be beneficial to the overwhelming majority of the 3%? Instead of leading up to a massive backlash? Just like what happened numerous times previously in human history.

NuttBoxer says

And on the other side, because people murdered, regardless of the location, matter right..? And terrorism, regardless of WHO initiates it, is still terrorism, right..?

6,500 Palestinian's, mostly women and children.

Gonna be blunt. Honest question. Who cares?

Terrorism and massacres are going on across the globe in areas you and everyone else gives no shits about. Somehow Isreal and Palestine are important??? Neither produces a god damn thing. It's a completely useless place besides religious tourism. The entire region is a shithole yet we're supposed to care about it and its people? Spare me the time. Because it's a fucking waste of it. Let them kill each other over fictional books and their butt hurt past transgressions. Being dead serious, let them all die. The world would be a better place.

Reality says

A pronouncement remarkably similar to what the original Nazis made as they started to clear out the Warsaw Ghetto.

Nice straw man is that made of your dirty toilet paper because it sure smells like it.

Reality says

Do you live in the US? Are you living close to DC or NYC? If you are, then you are living next door to terrorists according to much of the rest of the world; if you are living far away from DC or NYC, then you are living close to (domestic) terrorists according to those in DC (and NYC ad agencies / media). Pick your poison.

Oh look another straw man! Are there a lot of rockets being launched in your part of the country? Yah, I thought not.
Reality says

What do you have against Mohammed the Jesuit? (or at least a Jesuit scholar if not a bunch of Jesuit scholars who wrote Koran using that pen name).

Fixed it for you. I’ve already said I’m not taking sides. But there is a truth, and it deserves to be known.

PeopleUnited says

Reality says

What do you have against Mohammed the Jesuit? (or at least a Jesuit scholar if not a bunch of Jesuit scholars who wrote Koran using that pen name).

Fixed it for you. I’ve already said I’m not taking sides. But there is a truth, and it deserves to be known.

It's intellectually dishonest to misquote me, replacing the world "Jew"/"Jewish" with "Jesuit." Jesuit was a movement founded in 1540 (as a response to Protestant movement), nearly 1000 years after the start of Islam in 610; so it's chronologically impossible to derive Islam from Jesuits. If you have read both the Bible and the Koran, you'd know that Islam is very similar to Old Testament (plus emphasis on upholding commercial contract).

PeopleUnited says

Reality says

A pronouncement remarkably similar to what the original Nazis made as they started to clear out the Warsaw Ghetto.

Nice straw man is that made of your dirty toilet paper because it sure smells like it.

Not at all. If you have studied the history of the Holocaust, or even detailed history of WWII, you'd know that telling inmates to move before utterly demolishing Warsaw Ghetto and (nearly) mass-murdering every Jew stayed inside was exactly what the Nazis did. I suspect the copying of history was deliberate: designed to cause a massive backlash against Israel and Jews worldwide. It's close to the harvest season, as far as the banksters are concerned.

PeopleUnited says

Reality says

Do you live in the US? Are you living close to DC or NYC? If you are, then you are living next door to terrorists according to much of the rest of the world; if you are living far away from DC or NYC, then you are living close to (domestic) terrorists according to those in DC (and NYC ad agencies / media). Pick your poison.

Oh look another straw man! Are there a lot of rockets being launched in your part of the country? Yah, I thought not.

Military manufacturing contracts are spread across the entire US in order to get congressional votes. In any case, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, most terrorists attacks in the world are ultimately concocted and/or financed by decision-makers in the vicinity of DC and NYC. Even the Russian Revolution and Chinese Communist Revolution were financed by NYC banksters and their allies/agents in DC; so were both the Shah and Khomeini of Iran (and the assassination of their previously democratically elected President). Out of all the leaderships of the "Axis of Evil," seems only North Korea's Kim has not directly received funding from the banksters; then again, he had his college education in Switzerland, another bankster nest.

personal

Seems everyone was in on this false flag, including the mainstream propaganda networks. You know it's real when journalists are on scene before the terrorists are...

https://honestreporting.com/photographers-without-borders-ap-reuters-pictures-of-hamas-atrocities-raise-ethical-questions/

Reality says

It's intellectually dishonest...

I said fixed it for you. It is intellectually dishonest to attribute the Catholic creation of Islam to Jews.

Reality says

It's close to the harvest season, as far as the banksters are concerned.

On this we agree

NuttBoxer says

You do have a side, it's government,

More lies. I don’t waste my time with lies and liars.

My side is the promote the truth. It is a lie to blame this war on any one party or to claim that innocent people on both sides don’t matter.

That being said one group did attack first. They own responsibility for starting this recent escalation ( in a centuries old feud that won’t end until God ends it).

NuttBoxer says

But at least then you weren't justifying genocide, sick.

More lies and straw man.

PeopleUnited says

Reality says

It's intellectually dishonest...

I said fixed it for you. It is intellectually dishonest to attribute the Catholic creation of Islam to Jews.

Where did you get the idea that the Catholics created Islam? The East-West Schism wasn't final until 1054, over 400 years after the start of Islam.

Didn't want to wait for no stinkin' Palestinians or Hamas to get the false flag in high gear.

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/112000