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Looks like it's Pukin who uses the art of the deal on Donnie and not the other way around.

So far Pukin kept his maximalist demands (and even added new ones) while Donnie is giving up more and more.

I expected competence. This ain't it.

RWSGFY says

The Trump administration is considering reducing high tariffs on Chinese imports to 50%-65% instead of the previously imposed 145%,

- WSJ.

RWSGFY says

The Trump administration is considering reducing high tariffs on Chinese imports to 50%-65% instead of the previously imposed 145%,
- WSJ.

Eh, none of us know background on corporations located there that are negotiating. Even it's a net of 3-5 companies doing stuff in the US it was a net gain.

Basically he wasn't bringing the hammer to China, it was US and other foreign companies. If you make them see the light and they move back or move their manufacturing here, that's a huge win. That was the end goal. Overall tariffs at the end of the day are trivial long term. He could move them weekly. Businesses want stability and we can control that.

Trump is now surrendering to China as well. Man this isn’t going to change anything.

WookieMan says

RWSGFY says

The Trump administration is considering reducing high tariffs on Chinese imports to 50%-65% instead of the previously imposed 145%,
- WSJ.

Eh, none of us know background on corporations located there that are negotiating. Even it's a net of 3-5 companies doing stuff in the US it was a net gain.

Basically he wasn't bringing the hammer to China, it was US and other foreign companies. If you make them see the light and they move back or move their manufacturing here, that's a huge win. That was the end goal. Overall tariffs at the end of the day are trivial long term. He could move them weekly. Businesses want stability and we can control that.

Trump set up a shipbuilding council in the White House because that is one manufacturing sector that is related to national security.

He should have identified some key manufacturing areas besides semiconductors and electronics such as antibiotics and medical equipment. Do the same as he did for the shipbuilding council.

We should have enough manufacturing capabilities and capacity in these manufacturing sectors that are national security related. We use Los Alamos National Lab for critical services instead of a Chinese manufacturer, so the same concept should apply.

This is what Trump should explain to the public, and he needs to realize we can't expect trade with a poorer or 3rd world country to not result in some trade deficit.

Their citizens can't buy all the Chevy Corvettes coming off the production line or their small businesses afford hiring New York white collar labor such as lawyers, advertisers, etc.

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Fortwaye says

Trump is now surrendering to China as well. Man this isn’t going to change anything.

Will see how much China wants to give in some if we show them the respect of being 5000 years old and having the largest manufacturing capabilities.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-considers-exempting-some-goods-us-tariffs-source-says-2025-04-25/

The trade deficit in 2024 was around $920 billion.

So Trump likely wants it to be less than that to show an improvement over Birdbrain Biden, just like Trump is trying to cut from Birdbrain Biden's 2025 budget to reduce the deficit.

I think a large part of Trump's mentality is he is trying to do all this within 6 months to compensate for Birdbrain Biden's Marxist agenda during 2021 to 2024.

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Soo, 100 days of friendly sounds, concessions, Witkoff's hand on heart and all that jazz...scratch that.... more like 200 days of that since the first phone calls from Donnie to Vlady-buddy has started right after the election. And what do we have to show for it? Soviets are still firmly on their maximalist demands. Here's Lavrov in interview with Brazilian newspaper named Globo(homo) on 04/28/25 (but reads as something from '23):

The international recognition of Crimea, Sevastopol, the DPR, the LPR, the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as part of Russia is another imperative.
All the commitments Kiev assumes must be legally binding, contain enforcement mechanisms and be permanent.
Demilitarising and de-Nazifying Ukraine is also on the agenda, along with lifting sanctions, withdrawing lawsuits and cancelling arrest warrants, as well as returning Russian assets subjected to the so-called freeze in the West.
We will also insist on obtaining solid security guarantees for the Russian Federation in order to shield it from any threats emanating from hostile activities by NATO, the European Union and some of their member states along our western border.

Abject and total failure of "wag tail and show belly" diplomacy.

It took 2 years for the Bidet/Potatus regime to instigate the Ukraine war.

Give it time . . .

Soo, Donnie keeps making concessions and friendly sounds towards Pukin and getting absolutely nowhere. The Art of the Deal seems to be not really a thing.

Donnie has no cards?

stereotomy says

It took 2 years ...

Give it time . . .

Are we now saying Donnie didn't understand the problem will take years to solve (which makes him kinda dumb) or he was simply lying through his teeth to his voters (which makes him ...... )?

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says

It took 2 years ...

Give it time . . .

Are we now saying Donnie didn't understand the problem will take years to solve (which makes him kinda dumb) or he was simply lying through his teeth to his voters (which makes him ...... )?

If it were just Russia, maybe he could have done it. Instead, he had to bitch slap the Euro Neocons and Globohomo sock puppets enough to make them look so stupid they'd give up trying to sabotage his plans. They can't lay off the hookers and blow, and it's starting to come out, as well as the pedo shit.

An assessment of the art of the deal in action:

German Defense Minister Pistorius commenting on Trump:

"I believe that he (Trump) overestimated his negotiating position, his personal power. Trump's first major mistake was right at the beginning, when he promised that Ukraine wouldn't join NATO and even offered Ukrainian territory."

"You don't do this. (...) It has created a situation where it is much harder for us to establish a ceasefire or peace."

Pistorius further elaborates regarding the Trump-Putin talks :

"My expectations were already low, but even those were undercut. Politically, nothing is really moving forward, except that we are running in circles."

Source: Spiegelonline

Donnie is flopping hard.

RWSGFY says

German Defense Minister Pistorius commenting on Trump:

What credibility does Germany have on anything in terms of Russia? Have they stopped buying Russian oil/gas? Have they stopped trading with Russia through proxies?

Have they even met their minimum NATO spending goals?

This video from 6 years ago of a German delegation laughing at Trump when Trump rightfully warned that Germany is enabling Russia and will be totally hostage to them never gets old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLZBVTid4I

The Art of Two Weeks:

https://x.com/mouw5284/status/1928070969253302410

The fuckers admit not negotiating in good faith, mock Donnie's efforts:

Senior Russian security official Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday that the point of holding peace talks with Ukraine was to ensure a swift and complete Russian victory.

"The Istanbul talks are not for striking a compromise peace on someone else's delusional terms but for ensuring our swift victory and the complete destruction of the neo-Nazi regime," the hawkish deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council said on Telegram.
"That's what the Russian Memorandum published yesterday is about."

Medvedev was referring to a set of Russian demands presented to Ukraine at talks in Istanbul on Monday.

RWSGFY says

The fuckers admit not negotiating in good faith

Are you honestly surprised by this ?

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AD says

RWSGFY says

The fuckers admit not negotiating in good faith

Are you honestly surprised by this ?

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Of course not. I was never under illusion they can be negotiated with without first being properly fucked up. But the POTUS, in his infinite wisdom, apparenly thought (and still does) that making puppy eyes and cooing sounds will somehow bring them to the table in earnest.

No deal here:



or here:

RWSGFY says

No deal here:

Trump came in blustering like a protege of Roy Cohn.

But as long as he is an improvement over your favorite president Birdbrain Biden then I am willing to tolerate that.

I know you are upset there is no more an open border and there are less welfare state giveaways like student loan forgiveness.

I see USAID's budget is cut in the 2026 proposed budget about 47% compared to Birdbrain Biden's 2025 budget.

Who says Elon Musk did not have any positive effect on cutting waste like at USAID ?

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Elon was trying to do the right thing, but in the end it turned out that Trump just used him for PR and was never serious about cutting spending.

One of the most naive and contradictory aspects of Trump’s foreign policy, in my view, is his stance on Iran and Ukraine.

Trying to persuade Iran not to build nuclear weapons by offering security and economic guarantees, while simultaneously abandoning Ukraine—which gave up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for similar guarantees—sends a deeply inconsistent message. It undermines U.S. credibility and weakens the value of such guarantees in the eyes of other states.
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https://x.com/Teoyaomiquu/status/1930308400828821843

Make concessions upfront - get more demands:



The art of the deal, bitchez!

RWSGFY says

Make concessions upfront - get more demands:

because give a foot and take a mile is the mindset and it shows Putin is not serious about negotiating for peace

I say focus on California, the Cloward Piven Strategy shithole, and put the effort into smoking out and exposing the Democrat Party's enforcer and domestic terrorist organization, AntiFa

the TACO snarky memes stopped and AntiFa went total apeshit when ICE started to do its job

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May 29th:

"I'll let you know in about two weeks.
"Within two weeks. We're gonna find out whether or not (Putin is) tapping us along or not.
"And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently."

RWSGFY says

May 29th:

"I'll let you know in about two weeks.
"Within two weeks. We're gonna find out whether or not (Putin is) tapping us along or not.
"And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently."

Let's see what happens at the end of this week, as Trump may respond with less enthusiasm to make concessions

Right now Trump should be putting his foot on the throat of the Democrat-financed AntiFa groups and let them continue to riot.

There is no risk in that, and there is no consequence as far as Trump not going TACO mode.

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AD says

RWSGFY says

May 29th:

"I'll let you know in about two weeks.
"Within two weeks. We're gonna find out whether or not (Putin is) tapping us along or not.
"And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently."

Let's see what happens at the end of this week,

Most probably the same he did at the end of the previous "2 weeks" - give 2 more weeks.

Nice deal with Iran RN, btw.

Eric Holder says

Nice deal with Iran RN, btw.

let's see how this turns out compared to last time missiles were exchanged between Iran and Israel which seemed like restrained geopolitical theater

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AD says

Eric Holder says

Nice deal with Iran RN, btw.

let's see how this turns out compared to last time missiles were exchanged between Iran and Israel which seemed like restrained geopolitical theater

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This is Bibi dragging Trump
along, kicking and screaming after the whole negotiations thing devolved into ayatollah blatantly dragging their feet farting in Trumps's face. Just like Pukin does. I'm old enough to remember Trump making scene in the WH demanding agreeing to unconditional ceasefire from Zel. Well, he got it from Zel on Mar 30. Pukin simply ignored old Donnie and continued bombing civvies and making outlandish demands.

More puppy eyes and waggy tail:

Eric Holder says

AD says

RWSGFY says

May 29th:

"I'll let you know in about two weeks.
"Within two weeks. We're gonna find out whether or not (Putin is) tapping us along or not.
"And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently."

Let's see what happens at the end of this week,

Most probably the same he did at the end of the previous "2 weeks" - give 2 more weeks.

Have 2 weeks passed? What happened after that?

The author of the book has spoketh:

Trump's chest thumping is right out of "The Art of the Deal".

He wants peace and thinks the Iranians may give up if given an untenable position. He would prefer no US attacks on Iran.

Iran doesn't believe the TACO moniker because they haven't done shit to US bases etc.

RWSGFY says

Attacking Iran == inability
to negotiate properly because no skills.

Sez the expert, not humble me.

Misc says

Trump's chest thumping is right out of "The Art of the Deal".

He wants peace and thinks the Iranians may give up if given an untenable position. He would prefer no US attacks on Iran.

Wait, so puppy eyes and waggy tail and 2 weeks on repeat does not work and is not prescribed in the book? Interesting.