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2025 Oct 22, 9:13am   4,602 views  1,607 comments

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1584   UveBeenNudged1   2025 Oct 25, 8:31am  

I made the image just days before Jaguar unveiled their new design.






1585   Misc   2025 Oct 25, 8:47am  

So, they haven't been able to sell a single car since they went extreme Woke, but they were able to con the UK government into giving them some taxpayer coin because they were "hacked".
1587   rocketjoe79   2025 Nov 6, 1:37pm  

Government Subsidy goes away, Losers be losers. Tesla? Still going strong. If you haven't bought stock yet, there is still time before the Tesla RoboTaxi bump happens.
1588   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 6, 2:03pm  

rocketjoe79 says

before the Tesla RoboTaxi bump happens.


RoboTaxis will face legal hurdles, in my view. All SDCs will.
1589   The_Deplorable   2025 Nov 6, 2:38pm  

rocketjoe79 says
"...there is still time before the Tesla RoboTaxi bump happens."

A system that cannot fail safe should NEVER be automated.
1590   Eric_Holder   2025 Nov 6, 2:48pm  

rocketjoe79 says


There are also tutorial videos available as soon as you sit in the seat for the first time. You used to have to read the manual. They are literally spoon-feeding the new owner.


You think a 19 y.o. girl would read a manual or sit through a tutorial video? LOL.

Thing is: the whole thing is completely unnecessary. Just make fucking door handles mechanical and intuitive like in every other car on the road. Boom! Done. That wasn't hard, was it?
1591   Misc   2025 Nov 6, 11:38pm  

Ford is deciding to close down production of the F-150 lightning. They sold a whopping 1500 of them last month. By the Stats they sold more Edsels on a monthly basis, and the population was much smaller then.
1592   SunnyvaleCA   2025 Nov 7, 10:40am  

Eric Holder says

rocketjoe79 says



There are also tutorial videos available as soon as you sit in the seat for the first time. You used to have to read the manual. They are literally spoon-feeding the new owner.


You think a 19 y.o. girl would read a manual or sit through a tutorial video? LOL.

Thing is: the whole thing is completely unnecessary. Just make fucking door handles mechanical and intuitive like in every other car on the road. Boom! Done. That wasn't hard, was it?

The issue is that the mechanical release isn't particularly convenient (in operation and/or placement). Thus people use the electronic button all the time and have no practice with the backup system when the need arises. Rolled vehicle filled with smoke, airbags in your face, and broken bones make matters ever so complicated when seconds count.
1593   Eric_Holder   2025 Nov 7, 12:52pm  

SunnyvaleCA says

The issue is that the mechanical release isn't particularly convenient (in operation and/or placement). Thus people use the electronic button all the time and have no practice with the backup system when the need arises. Rolled vehicle filled with smoke, airbags in your face, and broken bones make matters ever so complicated when seconds count.


The whole electric door release is a perfect example of why-tech. It's unnecessary, it's hard to use in an emergency, it adds complexity, etc. They say they need it to be electric in order to lower the glass before door is opened but countless counvertibles and coupes manage this with normal user interface - a fucking door handle.
1594   HeadSet   2025 Nov 7, 5:48pm  

Eric Holder says

The whole electric door release is a perfect example of why-tech.

Like shaving in front of a video camera and flat screen instead of a mirror.
1595   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 26, 8:43pm  

Reminds me of a couple of Tesla fluffers here on Patnet:


1596   HeadSet   2025 Dec 27, 7:15am  

Do not put bicyclists on the same list as vegans. A bike is an excellent way to do short trips in a small town or suburb. I am talking about pedal only bikes, not electric bikes that are really just another type of Vespa scooter.
1597   socal2   2025 Dec 27, 8:12am  

My Tesla does nearly 100% of my driving now. Hard to put into words what an amazing feature this is as it adds massive safety and convenience to my life. It was incredible having it drive home from the restaurant last night in the pouring rain after I had a few beers with dinner.

People have no idea what’s coming…..

Now that the EV subsidies are gone, EV adoption will slow down, but Tesla will be the last man standing as they were already able to make EV’s at a sustainable profit - while everyone else is now pulling back. Very few Tesla drivers (who don’t have TDS or EDS) are going back to primitive ICE cars.
1598   The_Deplorable   2025 Dec 27, 9:36am  

socal2 says
"My Tesla does nearly 100% of my driving now."

socal2: I have a lot of experience with automating various processes, systems etc and
my $0.02 in this area is to never automate a system that cannot fail safe."

For example... what if the automatic system on that vehicle fails while you are doing
70 mph on the highway?

Again, my $0.02...
1599   RWSGFY   2025 Dec 27, 10:06am  

socal2 says


It was incredible having it drive home from the restaurant last night in the pouring rain after I had a few beers with dinner.


DUI with "autopilot" carries the same consequences as DUI without.
1600   HeadSet   2025 Dec 27, 6:38pm  

RWSGFY says

DUI with "autopilot" carries the same consequences as DUI without.

Interesting if the "autopilot" detects your slurred speech voice commands and take you to the police station.
1601   Tenpoundbass   2025 Dec 28, 12:20pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Then the companies that are going to accommodate them, can you just imagine the petty rules, and elitist merits, that companies will allow or not allow their employees to use the limited charging stations at the office?


My friend's wife works at a local hospital. They recently installed 1 ev charger for the employees, for their office.
They used to be a tight knit group, considered themselves like family. But since the car charger, the EV drivers have all turned into bitter petty foes, worrying about who was on the charger one minute longer than the allotted time. The emails, interoffice memos, the HR reporting all over EV charging privileges and times. The problem is, the people that drive to work on empty, for the amount of time they get on the charger, it barely puts anything back.
1602   RWSGFY   2025 Dec 28, 2:26pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Tenpoundbass says


Then the companies that are going to accommodate them, can you just imagine the petty rules, and elitist merits, that companies will allow or not allow their employees to use the limited charging stations at the office?


My friend's wife works at a local hospital. They recently installed 1 ev charger for the employees, for their office.
They used to be a tight knit group, considered themselves like family. But since the car charger, the EV drivers have all turned into bitter petty foes, worrying about who was on the charger one minute longer than the allotted time. The emails, interoffice memos, the HR reporting all over EV charging privileges and times. The problem is, the people that drive to work on empty, for the amount of time they get on the charger, it barely puts anything back.



Whoever chosen and manages that thing is a stupid cunt then. Chargepoint makes is very easy to setup a virtual queue, set charge time limits, penalties for overstaying at the spot after reaching the charge limit, etc. And it all is handled in the app and anonimuzed to the point you have no way to know who's in front of you in line unless you sit in the parking lot and watch the charger whole day, so sending emails and interoffice memos is not necessary and accomplishes nothing.
1603   floki   2025 Dec 28, 2:39pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Tenpoundbass says


Then the companies that are going to accommodate them, can you just imagine the petty rules, and elitist merits, that companies will allow or not allow their employees to use the limited charging stations at the office?


My friend's wife works at a local hospital. They recently installed 1 ev charger for the employees, for their office.
They used to be a tight knit group, considered themselves like family. But since the car charger, the EV drivers have all turned into bitter petty foes, worrying about who was on the charger one minute longer than the allotted time. The emails, interoffice memos, the HR reporting all over EV charging privileges and times. The problem is, the people that drive to work on empty, for the amount of time they get on the charger, it barely puts anything back.


I've always wondered what incetives motivate employers to provide free charging as a perk. I've never heard of employers providing discounted or free fuel vouchers as a perk. Are they getting really cheap subsidized rates to not make a dent in their books?
1604   HeadSet   2025 Dec 28, 3:39pm  

floki says

I've never heard of employers providing discounted or free fuel vouchers as a perk

Electricity is much cheaper that buying off site gasoline.
1605   floki   2025 Dec 28, 4:08pm  

HeadSet says

floki says


I've never heard of employers providing discounted or free fuel vouchers as a perk

Electricity is much cheaper that buying off site gasoline.


I know that HeadSet, but my point was what is in it for employers to provide free charging as a perk when other forms of transportation related costs are not (like costs of bikes, scooter, fuel, hov stickers, tolls) etc... I was using gas vouchers as one example.
1606   Tenpoundbass   2025 Dec 28, 4:27pm  

RWSGFY says

And it all is handled in the app and anonimuzed to the point you have no way to know who's in front of you in line unless you sit in the parking lot and watch the charger whole day, so sending emails and interoffice memos is not necessary and accomplishes nothing.


Yeah well you go down to the parking lot and Sheniqua still has her Lexus charging. Do you wanna go tell Sheniqua she's in the wrong? Because that's a good way to take a pony tail sled ride around the breakroom on your back.
1607   HeadSet   2025 Dec 28, 5:51pm  

floki says

what is in it for employers to provide free charging as a perk

Employers look for low cost perks to attract employees, as it is cheaper than raises. Free charging may fit that bill just like a credit union membership or free bus passes the company buys in bulk.

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