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B.A.C.A.H. says

There was an article in the WSJ this week about a family who took their Tesla on a cross country drive that included a drive across 299. Got a damaged tire near Weaverville and were stranded there. No spare on board that hipster car, and no spare Tesla tires to be had far and wide in that part of California. It was a major hassle for them that ruined their trip.

Yeah. Can't do road trips with Teslas at all. Would be a major mistake. You need an ICE vehicle or rent one. Tesla is a commuter car. That's why I call them golf carts. That why gas carts on golf courses are more popular despite the noise. It has gas in it or it doesn't... I prefer electric carts golfing, but for whatever reason if I'm autistic or something and the noise of gas cart literally make me angry.

Also, I think once Cyber Truck is sold out, EV market is going to plummet. Reach market saturation. If they're quality cars they'll last a long time. My golf cart will last 10 years on the battery. There's no point in getting a new model unless it's for status for Tesla. And I don't care what you say Eman about CA. It is a status thing and a "green" thing even though it's not.

Either way I know the electric game. I tinker on mine all the time. Take it to get the mail daily (have a CBU). EV's are just not practical long distance vehicles. The semi Musk is designing is going to cost a fortune in a low margin business of transport. And a loss of time charging. The truck will be off the road 20-30% more than diesel trucks. Poof. Profits gone. No trucker is gonna wanna touch it if they're paid by mile and their wife Karen is back home fucking the neighbor. He should just stick to sedans and call it a day. Cyber Truck will be a flop because it cannot tow any distance. Almost no one hooks up a camper to go 40 miles. Because that's all you get with a 6k lbs trailer/camper.

GNL says

Most of these are kit cars.

Yes, really sweet looking replica. And I can see plunking down close to $100k for it. But if that were the case, why not go for the updated real thing?

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

GNL says

Most of these are kit cars.

Yes, really sweet looking replica. And I can see plunking down close to $100k for it. But if that were the case, why not go for the updated real thing?

So many options to choose from, amiright? Yes, I love the new corvette. I think they're going to do even more with them. The first models always end up looking a little plain with each new iteration. I still like restomods most.

WookieMan says

Yeah. Can't do road trips with Teslas at all. Would be a major mistake.

I take my Model Y to Las Vegas, Phoenix, Northern California and Utah frequently. Anything further requires a flight. Tesla Superchargers for 15 minute stops are everywhere. Tesla is adding a new charger in North America every hour now.

socal2 says

WookieMan says

Yeah. Can't do road trips with Teslas at all. Would be a major mistake.

I take my Model Y to Las Vegas, Phoenix, Northern California and Utah frequently. Anything further requires a flight. Tesla Superchargers for 15 minute stops are everywhere. Tesla is adding a new charger in North America every hour now.

You’re wasting your time. People will believe what they want to believe even though they don’t own it and don’t know much about it.

Hollywood celebrities are buying Cybertruck. Who would have thought? I didn’t see it either TBH. I thought it was a fugly truck myself when it was unveil, but I put in the reservation anyway. Then got an email from Tesla to design mine on 12/26. Such a huge premium for the Foundation Series so I’m holding out. 😂

@socal2,

Since Teslas don’t have a spare tire, I have a pump and a tire repair kit in each Tesla. You never know. Cheap insurance.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

GNL says

Most of these are kit cars.

Yes, really sweet looking replica. And I can see plunking down close to $100k for it. But if that were the case, why not go for the updated real thing?

Why would you drop $100k on a fast car that can only carry 2 persons? Why not buy a used SUV that can carry 7 persons and tow stuff? You know it’s just a matter of when, not if, that you’re going to hit some kid in a fast car. Is this a midlife crisis purchase or a small dick syndrome? 😂

I woke up this morning and felt kind of being funny. Must be Friday. 😂

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

GNL says

Most of these are kit cars.

Yes, really sweet looking replica. And I can see plunking down close to $100k for it. But if that were the case, why not go for the updated real thing?

Huh? That white C8 Corvette isn’t a new version of the 1960’s AC Cobra. You can buy new versions “continuation cars” with CSX6000 and up vins of the Cobra now.

Eman says

I have a pump and a tire repair kit in each Tesla.

That's a good plan for a flat, not so good for a damaged tire.

from "The Day Our Tesla Inflated" by Rikka Fountain. WSJ page A13 February 27:

"...our high performance Tesla uses high performance tires... those tires can be days away outside a major population center... we could have bought the car with a full size replacement, but that would have left no room for luggage...the tire wasn't patchable..."

That is one of the other problems with Teslas I actually don't hammer on either. They're ugly. Small. At least for a taller guy. Not sure about other EV's as Tesla is the only one I've driven.

They're also advertising on YouTube like gangbusters. They've reached market saturation. I've never seen ads ever. I like older or big cars that guzzle gas. I have my townie cart and I'm good.

ForcedTQ says

Huh? That white C8 Corvette isn’t a new version of the 1960’s AC Cobra.

Dang, I was confusing it with a 1950’s Stingray. You are correct, sir!

ForcedTQ says

continuation cars

Yep, here's a place you can purchase them. Expensive.
https://revologycars.com/
This is considered a brand new car because it was JUST built from scratch. EVERY part of it.

I would think this would fuck up the entire classic car market. Evidently, people/companies resurected the tools/molds etc to make every part. Now you can get a brand new one. If you can build NEW of the most rare cars, how can they keep their value? Hmm, not sure how long they've been doing this but, $338,000 for the one pictured above. Please.

https://www.autoblog.com/article/the-worst-cities-and-states-to-own-an-ev-in-2024/

Guess where Socal2 and I live? 😂



https://www.autoblog.com/article/the-best-cities-and-states-to-own-an-ev-in-2024/

Eman says

Guess where Socal2 and I live? 😂



https://www.autoblog.com/article/the-best-cities-and-states-to-own-an-ev-in-2024/

Yes. The two here in denial that EVs are niche products.

Proper Cybertruck advertisement!

https://twitter.com/TheStandardNFT/status/1764196509309137158

socal2 says

Proper Cybertruck advertisement!

https://twitter.com/TheStandardNFT/status/1764196509309137158

@socal2, do you know if this was done by Tesla, or one of the fans?

Elon has promised to spend money on ads, but it’s hard to tell which ones are done by Tesla and which ones are done by its fans.

Eman says

socal2, do you know if this was done by Tesla, or one of the fans?

Looks official.

https://twitter.com/Tesla/status/1763320617758020072

I would not call Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto a Metro area. A corridor yes, individually yes, but they are way to separate to be considered one.

https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1764420242694926790?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

https://x.com/thejefflutz/status/1764344038541480383?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Is it Halloween yet?



https://x.com/emmetpeppers/status/1764109828740538465?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

I'm sorry but, I just can't see the appeal of the cyber truck.

GNL says

I'm sorry but, I just can't see the appeal of the cyber truck.

It doesn’t have to make sense to you, me or anyone. I’m just watching the show.



https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1764302141009580280?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Check out the boat’s name. I didn’t know this type of boat exists.



https://x.com/minimalduck/status/1764419994685767922?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

GNL says

I would think this would fuck up the entire classic car market. Evidently, people/companies resurected the tools/molds etc to make every part. Now you can get a brand new one. If you can build NEW of the most rare cars, how can they keep their value? Hmm, not sure how long they've been doing this but, $338,000 for the one pictured above. Please.

I'm going to explain a scam that was pulled on everything from beanie babies to video game cartridges.

Basically, some junk is identified as being "rare" but not so rare that it's impossible to get, so a bunch of this garbage is collected on the cheap through various means. Then they started selling the items to THEMSELVES for larger and larger amounts of money. People see the price going on, and people that already have the garbage wait for higher prices, people that have nostalgia for the garbage think it's a safe buy and what's $200 for a video game from their youth they'd like to play again, or whatever.

The market value stays high until inventories are exhausted.

That's the "classic car market".

There's a few genuine collectors, but they are rare.

Eman says

https://x.com/thejefflutz/status/1764344038541480383?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Not Chicago dude. 100%. Fan boy post. I just went to a 100% yuppieville fundraiser Saturday night. Not a Tesla in sight. Not one.

I do see them and this was a suburban area. But they aren't popular here. Rich/wealthy people drive cars with utility or that look better. The Cyber Truck is the Pontiac Aztec of modern times. Except worse. You could at least tow with it for more than 100 miles with payload and would be 1/3rd the cost.

It's okay to admit you overpaid for a car you like. If I want a Ferrari and overpay for a toy, I'll do it. There's no point. I'd rather keep the money and invest it. It's okay to pay higher insurance, have only one source for maintenance, and it's ugly. Enjoy I guess?

WookieMan says

Not Chicago dude. 100%. Fan boy post. I just went to a 100% yuppieville fundraiser Saturday night. Not a Tesla in sight. Not one.

I do see them and this was a suburban area. But they aren't popular here. Rich/wealthy people drive cars with utility or that look better. The Cyber Truck is the Pontiac Aztec of modern times. Except worse. You could at least tow with it for more than 100 miles with payload and would be 1/3rd the cost.

It's okay to admit you overpaid for a car you like. If I want a Ferrari and overpay for a toy, I'll do it. There's no point. I'd rather keep the money and invest it. It's okay to pay higher insurance, have only one source for maintenance, and it's ugly. Enjoy I guess?

I used to live very close to that area, and even now live somewhat close. This is southbound Roselle Rd in Schaumburg, just north of Golf Rd. If you squint you can see Remington Rd on the street sign.

Google map link:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0541336,-88.0798096,3a,75y,186.47h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQcXPYYF2LVFxYu8tSaZGrQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

WookieMan says

The Cyber Truck is the Pontiac Aztec of modern times.

This.

Eman says

GNL says

I'm sorry but, I just can't see the appeal of the cyber truck.

It doesn’t have to make sense to you, me or anyone. I’m just watching the show.



https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1764302141009580280?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

It's got to be some kind of scam or bubble. Stupid imo.

EVs Emit More Particulates, One of the Most Dangerous Pollutants.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/evs-emit-more-particulates-one-of-the-most-dangerous-pollutants

WookieMan says

is spending more money on fast cars makes zero sense in my world.

It’s not necessarily speed, but the handling, the balance, the engagement using a manual shifter, the thrill, the joy. See 25.46.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6orK2v_cOfc

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

WookieMan says

is spending more money on fast cars makes zero sense in my world.

It’s not necessarily speed, but the handling, the balance, the engagement using a manual shifter, the thrill, the joy. See 25.46.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6orK2v_cOfc

Wasn't fast, but I drove manual for almost 9 years. Wasn't a fast car, but I think the experience made my driving exponentially better hence no tickets. You have to actually drive. As ridiculous as this sounds it made me stop eating fast food. You just become a more aware driver. So I'm in agreement. I just don't like driving fast. Lost too many people I know to it. So I drive like I'm 80 and in a big cars so the other idiots on the road shouldn't kill me.

Maybe I'll have a late mid life crisis and get something fast, but I don't think so. Just not my jam. I got myself in a little trouble when I was young once or twice and I ain't even going to jail for a night. I just don't put myself in bad spots and a fast car could do that. Hence my dislike of Tesla. I'll take my legal golf cart around town and the cops don't even care. If I leave town I need a big car with 3 kids. These kids are tall as well. I just like large SUV's. I'm on time and not in a rush and speed isn't a thrill for me. Nor acceleration. It's doesn't matter. It's of no value financially or emotionally.

What a coincidence. This person confirms what @southmtn said above about it’s on Golf Rd. Of course, everyone is a liar except Wookie. Wookie knows everything. Do we see a pattern here folks?

Eman says

GNL says

I'm sorry but, I just can't see the appeal of the cyber truck.

It doesn’t have to make sense to you, me or anyone. I’m just watching the show.



https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1764302141009580280?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

I thought that reselling a Cybertruck violated the purchase agreement with Tesla.

HeadSet says

I thought that reselling a Cybertruck violated the purchase agreement with Tesla.

I'm sure it does, but since enforcement of EVERYTHING is extremely lax these days, and car dealers frequently violate various laws already, a contractual requirement is meaningless to them.

Eman says

What a coincidence. This person confirms what southmtn said above about it’s on Golf Rd. Of course, everyone is a liar except Wookie. Wookie knows everything. Do we see a pattern here folks?

I live here dude. I know exactly where that's at. It's not Chicago. And there's ZERO chance that wasn't planned. Car people get in meet ups all the time. Tesla owners go to breakfast or something. They're not around here like CA. One photo doesn't make what you think is real. I live it. Rural, but it's still a rich area.

Fact is Tesla is actively advertising now. Sales are down. I've never seen an ad until the last 2 months. Market saturation is a thing. No one else wants them. I like Elon, but he's not a god. Cyber is going to be a flop for the truck buyers that expect a truck. It's a status symbol. I got it before you did and once the real performance is realized it will be a disaster. I give no shits about hitting my car with a hammer. The window breaking. I won't be in that scenario ever.

My wife totaled a Sequoia in a rear end accident (not at fault). No stiff necks or injuries at all. 3 kids in the car. It was a fully loaded box truck that hit her. There are plenty of other durable, practical vehicles that can get more the 50 miles with a trailer and sitting at a charger for an hour. I don't think the Tesla lovers are getting my valid point. I don't care that they're fun to drive. I've driven them. They good cars for a certain purpose. They don't remotely do what I would need them to do. I don't live in a city or even a large suburb. They're useless to me and all my neighbors. There's not one in my town.

HeadSet says

Eman says

GNL says

I'm sorry but, I just can't see the appeal of the cyber truck.

It doesn’t have to make sense to you, me or anyone. I’m just watching the show.



https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1764302141009580280?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

I thought that reselling a Cybertruck violated the purchase agreement with Tesla.

It did. The damage is $50k fine if Tesla decides to sue the seller. I don’t know why people do this stuff. It makes no sense to me, but it is what it is.

zzyzzx says

HeadSet says

I thought that reselling a Cybertruck violated the purchase agreement with Tesla.

I'm sure it does, but since enforcement of EVERYTHING is extremely lax these days, and car dealers frequently violate various laws already, a contractual requirement is meaningless to them.

This is true. The Kia EV9 has really good reviews. Kia told the dealerships not to mark up the price, but they still did. Buyers protested. Let’s see how it will play out.