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Eman says

30 sec video clip. She can shake. Too funny to not share.

Do Teslas come with a factory installed dashcam?

socal2 says

It's like having a ring camera.

It's a liability. I almost broke my arm working. You then have to provide the video and I'll sue you and get your insurance and so will my company. I have static cameras I can watch, but stopped recording. If I have evidence of someone getting hurt on my property, I'm fucked. I strictly use my cameras to check in on the house and the kids. NO recording and I can show proof of it.

Cops don't do shit anymore. Why? Cameras. You don't want a ring doorbells on your house or any device that actively records. Trust me. It's more problems then prevention. Get a gun.

Britain Has an 'EV Ticking Time Bomb' Problem

https://blackmon.substack.com/p/tuesdays-energy-absurdity-britain

The Daily Mail reports that what it calls the British government's "safety watchdogs" have issued a recall notice for almost 2,000 EV buses "over fears they can catch fire if left unattended."

HeadSet says

Eman says

30 sec video clip. She can shake. Too funny to not share.

Do Teslas come with a factory installed dashcam?

Yes, they all come with front, rear and 4 cameras on the sides. All drivers have the option of turning the dashcam on, off or auto.

Dodge is making EV muscle car. Didn’t see this coming.



https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1765051701340389561?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

So....uhhhh.....EVs are so good that the car manufacturers are making them sound and feel like real cars ????

Eman says

Dodge is making EV muscle car. Didn’t see this coming.



https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1765051701340389561?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Vaporware. Even so, what fellow old enough to afford that car would want fake engine vibration and fake loud exhaust noise? How about fake air intakes as well?

HeadSet says

Eman says

Dodge is making EV muscle car. Didn’t see this coming.



https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1765051701340389561?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Vaporware. Even so, what fellow old enough to afford that car would want fake engine vibration and fake loud exhaust noise? How about fake air intakes as well?

Stupid thing weighs more than a 2015 Yukon Denali 4wd!!!

Fake AND gay.

I agree. It makes no sense. Dodge should have created a new line and a new name for the EV to cater it to a different crowd. Not sure who made the decision to come up with the fake exhaust sound and car vibration.

I love the quietness of my Tesla. It doesn’t make sound when I back up like the newer models.

ForcedTQ says

Stupid thing weighs more than a 2015 Yukon Denali 4wd!!!

Probably should actually add 180 lbs if they were smart. Forget the name of it, but it could be a business tax write off at/over 6k lbs.

I just don't get the point of it. Even the ICE version. It's such an impractical car. You can get pulled over for accelerating too fast. Obviously speeding. What's the point of these types of cars including Tesla? I'm mean are people taking these to the track? That's the only way to legally max out the performance of any of these types of cars.

I like old school cars that technically can go fast, but for me that would be looks more than speed. Teslas look like dog vomit and that Dodge does too.

I'd also take the Denali in a heartbeat. You can actually do things with it. I'm not fitting 3 kids and gear in that Dodge or any model of Tesla comfortably, including Cyber. My 13 year old is already 6'. I'm 6'3". As I've said, Tesla and that Charger and others like it are not practical cars unless you're a bachelor that does nothing manly or fun.

OK, so here is the choice, for me, anyway. Buy a new Subaru BRZ tS, around $37k before taxes. And yes, it comes standard with a manual. Or, pay about $83-90k before taxes, depending on the bells and whistles (Z51, front lift feature, etc.) to buy a Corvette Stingray 2LT. Only comes in an automatic. And no, did not price insurance yet.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

OK, so here is the choice, for me, anyway. Buy a new Subaru BRZ tS, around $37k before taxes. And yes, it comes standard with a manual. Or, pay about $83-90k before taxes, depending on the bells and whistles (Z51, front lift feature, etc.) to buy a Corvette Stingray 2LT. Only comes in an automatic. And no, did not price insurance yet.

May I ask why the Subaru BRZ rather than Honda Civic Type R?

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

OK, so here is the choice, for me, anyway. Buy a new Subaru BRZ tS, around $37k before taxes. And yes, it comes standard with a manual. Or, pay about $83-90k before taxes, depending on the bells and whistles (Z51, front lift feature, etc.) to buy a Corvette Stingray 2LT. Only comes in an automatic. And no, did not price insurance yet.

I don't do 2 door cars. Had a 2 door Jeep when I was younger. Even without kids at that time is was shit. Being taller I could't do either car really. SUV or bust.

That said I assume the Subaru is AWD? Don't need to know where you live, but if it snows the Subaru is a no brainer financially and safety wise. I bought my house for the price of the Corvette and am $200k up. I don't spend a ton on depreciating products. So my vote would be the Subaru to save money. Plus manual and you can drive like an actual man.

WookieMan says

That said I assume the Subaru is AWD?

No, actually RWD. I do have an Subie Outback, AWD of course - great car but the GUI is a little slow. Agree about the manual. Looking at homes in Idaho. Currently in liberal shathole MD.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

WookieMan says

That said I assume the Subaru is AWD?

No, actually RWD. I do have an Subie Outback, AWD of course - great car but the GUI is a little slow. Agree about the manual. Looking at homes in Idaho. Currently in liberal shathole MD.

I have no issues with Subarus. Multiple friends with decade old models still running. You're gonna get snow in Idaho, but if you have the Outback as a back up you'll be fine with the BRZ 7-9 months of the year roughly. Also depends where in Idaho. Not sure if they use salt out there, so that $40-50k price difference could literally eat the Corvette. I'm a cheapskate though and save and invest. The Corvette is cool looking, I won't lie. My vote is the Subaru.

People, who buy the Cybertruck now, are either social media influencers, or have F U money. Everyone wraps their truck with a different color. Everyone wants to be “different”. High gloss red.



https://x.com/teslaconomics/status/1765563218330820730?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Eman says

People, who buy the Cybertruck now, are either social media influencers, or have F U money. Everyone wraps their truck with a different color. Everyone wants to be “different”. High gloss red.

It's not a truck though. It's a glorified mid sized SUV with cramped seating, poor sight lines and no utility as usual with Tesla. It's fine production and deliveries have finally started, but there are few new sales. I've NEVER seen Tesla advertise. Any YouTube video I start has a Tesla ad now. That means new sales are way down on all models.

It's a toy. You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?

Teslas are fine cars, but I think they'll be a relic of the past in a decade. It's not a road tripping car, so no one besides a few outliers have high miles on any model. It's a commuter car. I was just out in Montana and didn't see one. You have to drive an hour (at least) to do fun stuff. I saw no charging stations. Full EV's are only practical for homebodies that go to work and do nothing else.

WookieMan says

You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?

I was going to mention the Hummer craze a few days ago. Yep, we saw lots of them and now...where the heck did they all go?

@Eman, that looks like a photoshop. I could be wrong though.

GNL says

WookieMan says

You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?

I was going to mention the Hummer craze a few days ago. Yep, we saw lots of them and now...where the heck did they all go?

Eman, that looks like a photoshop. I could be wrong though.

Check out the link I shared above for a short clip of the wrap from all angles.

Eman says

Everyone wraps their truck with a different color.

Since the cheap grade of stainless steel used is already rusting, this is a smart move.
And I love stainless steel, even this cheaper grade is going to hold up way better then not stainless on salted roads.

zzyzzx says

Eman says

Everyone wraps their truck with a different color.

Since the cheap grade of stainless steel used is already rusting, this is a smart move.
And I love stainless steel, even this cheaper grade is going to hold up way better then not stainless on salted roads.

Oh god, so much misinformation out there. Wes, the lead Cybertruck engineer already debunked this.

Here’s a video Kim Java recently did on a farmer in Florida. Which appeared like rust, turned out wasn’t.

https://youtu.be/L-gPL7H7XHw?si=RtABQDQCGYXkfgTe

“You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around.”

Watch, Wookie will change the definition of “a farmer or construction worker” now to make his point.

Do you know why Tesla started to advertise this year and not before Wookie?

“It's a toy. You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?”

I don’t care how impractical the Cybertruck is, but I’m willing to bet it will outsell the Hummer sales number.

People buy a truck or car for different reasons. Stop imposing your views on others. It’s not about YOU. Just like I don’t see myself ever driving a Yukon XL ever again, and possibly ICE cars.

Eman says

People buy a truck or car for different reasons. Stop imposing your views on others. It’s not about YOU. Just like I don’t see myself ever driving a Yukon XL ever again, and possibly ICE cars.

The reason can be dumb and expensive. Which is what Tesla is. I'd love a Ferrari. I'd never buy one or even take one for free. Frugality is a thing. Doesn't mean you're poor. You're smart. I want life experiences. Driving a car is a chore to get from A to B. It's why the South Park creators call Harley riders fags. They are.

Buy the cheapest, clean looking car you can. For me it's SUV's that beats out anything Tesla puts out. I get you're brand loyal, but it's about UTILITY for a vehicle. They're ugly, fast golf cart... great. I'd rather fit 5-7 people and tow 7,000lbs. To go have a good time and not sit at a charging station for an hour to get 100 miles and have to put people in the trunk.

No model of Tesla is practical for a family of 5. None. Now imagine driving 4-8 clients around? Nope. Most legacy manufactures cars aren't besides mini vans (ewww) or SUV's. Tesla has neither. So I'm not picking on Tesla, I pointing out the massive flaws. Know the battery tech. New sales are going to plummet with market saturation. They already are.

I'd be shorting Tesla stock if I was in that game. Fortunately I don't need to trade stocks. Or buy status cars. I'm living the smart life...

Their reason for purchase is different with yours. It works for them. They don’t care what you or anyone thinks. They make their own life choice and you make yours.

And….you’re wrong again by saying “You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around.” WRONG AGAIN!

zzyzzx says

Since the cheap grade of stainless steel used is already rusting,

Since when does stainless steel rust? I have used it in salt water for years, and I have never seen stainless steel rust. It will dull, but not rust. By the way, if a magnet sticks to it, it is not stainless steel.

10 things that make the cyber truck a shitty truck. LMAO, originally was supposed to start at $39,000 but none are selling for less than $100,000. And it was supposed to go 500 miles between charges. At full towing capacity (11,000lbs) you can only go 90 miles.

https://youtu.be/KcVaRlLtBPw?si=CXN9lTi6UUyyOXIn

GNL says

10 things that make the cyber truck a shitty truck. LMAO, originally was supposed to start at $39,000 but none are selling for less than $100,000. And it was supposed to go 500 miles between charges. At full towing capacity (11,000lbs) you can only go 90 miles.

Eman doesn't get the point. I love my Nissan and my Toyota. I've had a Dodge, multiple Pontiacs, Jeeps, so this isn't my first rodeo. I've driven Tesla. They're not awful cars but they're overpriced golf carts. It would be dangerous as can be, but I can get a golf cart going 45mph and go for 150 miles. That's that range and speed most Tesla drivers need. No utility or space. Most municipalities allow you to drive carts. Around town, fuck, I'll save $50k on a golf cart. Whatever, I'm an idiot.

Tesla owners think this is some advanced tech. I've been driving electric golf carts since my childhood country club days. Instead of lead acid it's lithium. There's nothing new here besides the battery weighing less. You always have been able to power a car with lead acid or some form of electric. It just weighs 2-3k lbs more. It's still electric. This isn't new tech. Someone figured out lithium batteries, not Elon, and he put it in a car. Brilliant. lol So smart. Guess what? I did the same with my golf cart.

It's not about preference in cars. It's about utility. Tesla simply doesn't have it. I also value my time. Not sitting at a charging station for an hour to get 150 miles. About to drive that distance. I can go 400 miles in my big SUV, gas up anywhere, fit all my luggage which might include snowboards. There's not a Tesla I can do that with a family of five. NONE.

It's not about decisions and controlling people. It's about intelligence. I don't buy overpriced cars that don't provide utility. You're driving from A to B. A Tesla provides no utility and is simply a toy someone overpaid for. It's okay, just have to own it is all.

The reviewer is questioning if the door opener will be strong enough to open the door when it's ice encrusted. LMAO, you push a button for it to open the doors and then you pull on it. This is adding up to retardation. Sorry Eman.

Ok, serious Question: what is the best purpose for the cyber truck? Part of your answer cannot include..."it's so fast".

Tesla Motors was founded in 2003 by Mark Tarpenning and Martin Everhard. Elon Musk invested $6.5 million and appointed himself chairman of the board. A few years later he raised $30 million with help from the Google Founders. The investment came with the condition the he be named founder of the company. Then he proceeded to push out the founders, rewrote the history of the company to erase their names, and crowned himself the self-made “genius” behind the EV revolution.

Wow! I confess that I didn't know that one. But fortunately, my handy dandy meme library has just the meme to add here about this:



Eat that, Tesla Fluffers!

Warning: this article totally rips a new asshole in EV fantasists...particularly Tesla Fluffers

https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling

"What will future generations think of this brief experiment with nudging consumers toward electric vehicles that offered them no discernible benefits in any consumer categories (including “clean energy”) over petrol or hybrid versions at substantially greater economic cost?

If future generations of men ever recover any healthy levels of testosterone what will they say when they learn that Dodge ditched their roaring V8 HEMI engine of pure American muscle for spontaneously combustible batteries?

They’ll probably say what I’ve already said: EVs are spectacularly gay, and gay will never be cool.

In that sense, the Tesla is the perfect representation of the times we’re living.

Gay."

GNL says

The reviewer is questioning if the door opener will be strong enough to open the door when it's ice encrusted. LMAO, you push a button for it to open the doors and then you pull on it. This is adding up to retardation. Sorry Eman.

No need to apologize. The model 3 had icing issue with its handles. Tesla solved that so it should be a piece of cake to solve for the Cybertruck too IMO.

Elon is not a fan of car handles. The initial design had retractable handles just like the model S. Not sure what made them get away from that concept.

With respect to it being fast, the instant torque at any speed makes it really fun to drive. It puts a smile on my face every time. If you look at the crash and rollover tests, the Cybertruck outperforms any truck, or SUV out there. Tesla’s tech is top notch just like Apple. Very user friendly. All other brands feel outdated and hard to use once you’ve experienced a Tesla. So many convenient features that many cars don’t have.

The Tesla community has shared construction worker hauling sheetrock with the Cybertruck and farmer hauling hay with theirs too.

If the OEM car manufacturers don’t feel the pressure from EVs, why are they building EVs, while losing money on each EV they produce, and not sticking with their ICE business model?

I guess you can always go with a more conventional look...



As a reminder, the Tesla Cybertruck wrapped to look like an F-150 appeared shortly after Ford CEO Jim Farley criticized the Cybertruck for not being a real work truck.
https://insideevs.com/news/681745/tesla-cybertruck-shows-ford-f150-persona-some-more/

GNL says

what is the best purpose for the cyber truck?

It's a Status Symbol, bro.

That's the only purpose needed for the buyers.

Sheesh.

Interesting take from Edmunds.



https://x.com/edmunds/status/1766132950243164340?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Eman says

If the OEM car manufacturers don’t feel the pressure from EVs, why are they building EVs, while losing money on each EV they produce, and not sticking with their ICE business model?

Don't tell me you think they're doing it voluntarily. Eman, this country is beyond FUBAR. I believe we will eventually be full on communist at some point.