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jazz_music says

Hey, where is the evidence that they are lying?

AND

Ok now you are comparing Vox to Fox ... come on now, there is really no comparison there.

One way to lie is to give lopsided coverage. You see many headlines that reduce to "white man bad", "white man hurt a _(insert minority)". This delivers a powerful false message.

I am not, and have not, tried to compare news stations. I stated before that I think they all lie, a lot.

I am making fun of the sequence:
> left attacks white people, causing mass division and racial violence in exchange for political gain
> white people react, voting and acting to protect themselves from this attack
> left cries about their reaction, twisting their reaction to again use as "more evidence that white ppl are racist"

A decent # of my friends and family didnt like trump, but they felt it necessary to vote for him, or now finally see it, and with great reservation, plan to vote for him next election. They do not "hate brown ppl" or any of that junk. They hate the insanity dems are selling right now. They want the old dem party back, which was much more moderate and sensible.

I think it kills you that ppl vote for trump because the left sucks. You want to believe they vote for trump out of racism. It is this cognitive dissonance that makes you angry.

Hircus says

I think it kills you that ppl vote for trump because the left sucks.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I am in California and my vote doesn't really count anyway.

But I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump in 2020 - because the Democrat party has gone bat-shit crazy insane. Absolutely retarded insane. The Democrats need another 5 years in the political wilderness to learn a lesson and purge their party from insane.

Trump has governed much more conservatively than I expected and has moved the ball quite a bit in the Conservative direction.

socal2 says

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I am in California and my vote doesn't really count anyway.

But I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump in 2020 - because the Democrat party has gone bat-shit crazy insane.

Ditto!!

In 2016 I was interested in him, but was skeptical. I bought into the narrative that he was unhinged, and it worried me. I felt he could get the right things done, like a steamroller, but worried he may cause destruction.

But, CA is so blue that I felt my vote wouldn't matter either way, so didn't vote.

I now strongly support him, and will vote against a tidal wave of "free shit" peddling dems. Even if CA still votes blue, I'd be happy to just see some of the blue / red gap shrink.

jazz_music says

Except that Obama fucked them by giving us health insurance.

You couldn't be more wrong - Obummer fucked everybody by giving the health insurance companies more money and robbing the common taxpayer. Obummercare is worse than the system before and has been leading to a net-net decline in the health of Americans.

jazz_music says

585 billionaires already have plans for every penny of our taxes.

Free shit is for billionaires only.

I will say it again - the fact that the dems suck so bad right now is pushing people to trump. Dems are not giving them what they want. They telling them junk like "those jobs aint comin back" and people know its crap.

I keep seeing over and over this denial that people are unhappy with the dems. "The dems are wonderful. So, the ONLY POSSIBLE reason they would vote for trump is because they must be racist." Your last post was dismissive of all the realistic gripes ppl had w/ obama. Denial.

jazz_music says

Hircus says

Your last post was dismissive of all the realistic gripes ppl had w/ obama

No it wasn't

My bad, I misread it.

I agree trump is a corrupt dbag. He's very extreme - in both bad and good aspects. I don't see a better candidate right now.

Look at the lefties towing Russian propaganda line again. Poor innocent (Soviet bitch) Saddam, poor innocent (Russia's bitch) Maduro, poor innocent (Soviet/Russia's bitch) Assad, etc. ravaged by eeeeeevil Uncle Sam for no reason. Afghanistan was much less of a shithole before fucking USSR decided to make a socialist paradize out of it first by installing their puppet government and then by invading it ouright. Now it's a fucking mess. Africa was much less of a shithole before fucking USSR decided to use it as proxy battleground under a pretense of "anti-colonial movement". Now it's a fucking mess. Same goes for Latin America.

If Truman dropped the fucking bomb on Moscow in 1948 the world woul've been a much better place.

Syria was Sunni Fanatics, not the USA. They appeared when Obama withdrew the US troops before the Iraqi Army was ready, and then ISIS took over half of Iraq and 2/3 of Syria.
Venezuela - jack shit to do with the USA.
South Sudan - jack shit to do with the USA.
Afghanistan - should be NO refugees from Afghanistan, that country has been in a Civil War since the 1970s and like the Dark Ages since the days of Alexander and the Persians. I don't think a centralized government there has lasted more than a century, tops, in the past 2000 years. We pumped a SHITLOAD of money into Afghanistan from WW2 to the 1970s, built irrigation, dams, roads, all kinds of shit. The SOVIETS overthrew the King and the Jurga Parliament thing, then the Communist Afghans ended up fighting the Religious Nuts. The SOVIETS are ultimately responsible for Afghanistan. Not Alexander nor the Mongols nor the British Empire nor the USSR was ever able to order that Country for more than a century, max - if at all.
Congo - Jack shit to do with the USA
Central America - We have been pumping factories and jobs into Central America like fucking crazy since the 90s. No Civil War there since the late 80s/90s. They are purely economic migrants. Now that they have flat screens and satellite/cable and smartphones with 3G, they see the handouts and lifestyle in the US and prefer it. That's a no reason for asylum and certainly not to be refugees.

Imagine if Central Americans, who enjoy a standard of living several times better than the 50s-70s, invested their time and effort at home instead of spending it to get to the US and sign up to welfare while working off the books.

jazz_music says

SANDERS looking good still

ELIZABETH WARREN strong comeback after that native scandal

TULSI GABBARD also stand against billionaires

NOT SURE
NO - lie for your own benefit and you lose credibility and open yourself to blackmail
YES - I gave to Gabbard campaign, first time I gave to any politician since Ron Paul. I doubt she will be chosen tho

jazz_music says

Yet you are cool with Trump????

I do not like him, did not vote for him, did not give money to his campaign (and never will), but he was a giant FUCK YOU for the system which I appreciate. If I keep being told that i am a "Fucking White Male, Oppressor of Womyn and Minorities who should never be hired" I might vote for him, unless Ms. Gabbard is nominated, in which case i will vote for her as electing her also would be a FUCK YOU for the system where banks own everyone and everything.

jazz_music says

TULSI GABBARD also stand against billionaires

And war.

Why do you suppose the media is mostly ignorinf her? She's definitely a liberal but she seems well spoken, smart, and capable.

Yup, it's pathetic when a person, who looks no different from an "ethnic white" American of Sicilian, Georgian, or Armenian descent, plays the race card.

Geez, perhaps we need to move Vince Lombardi's family to the Sudan so that the HoF coach can get into Yale Law School as a discriminated against African-American.

No wonder Willie loved the handcuffs. Mandingo!

HonkpilledMaster says

jazz_music says

You don't need ELA to realize the font and the cars in the background make this likely long before the 90s and probably the 70s or 60s.

FAKE NEWS

Yes, notice the '59 Chevy in the background.

Does Jazz ever post anything that's not anti American or hating white people? Why is your heart so full of hate, what did a white person do to you?

Trump / Gabbard 2020

HonkpilledMaster says

So they can justify their own violence.

Violence occurs on both sides, but who on the right is instigating it? Just people like Antifa and Maxine Waters, calling for harassment of conservatives and Chris Cuomo, giving his blessing to commit violent acts against Trump supporters. You just don't see that kind of shit on the right.

jazz_music says

I must have missed that part.

You miss a lot.
Probably half your brain is missing.
That’s the only thing that could possibly explain how you can post utter lies, see those lies utterly disproven, and then continue on like everyone else is stupid for not believing you.
Amazing!

mell says

Trump / Gabbard 2020

I like Gabbard's anti-war stance, but she is pro unfettered illegal immigration.

Trump/Haley may be better. Even so, it will be Trump/Pence.

This must be the real reason she gets misty and sad when you mention the Thirteenth Amendment.

I hear that Epstein is taking seminars from Christine Blasey Ford to learn how to snivel, shrink, fake cry and quiver his lip while blaming Trump for EVERYTHING.

Nice pic, but Christine Ford netted a cool million for her false testimony.

Yawn.

jazz_music says

Oh liberals...please stop with the virtue signaling lololololol

Yes, yes, I know you're soooo virtuous. lol.

Any person who advocates liberty of thought, speech, or action.

Yet, they don't want free speech. Espescially in schools. They think it's terrific that schools and colleges have this extreme liberal indoctrination bias, and are happy to take action to silence and shame anyone who dares to exercise "freedom of speech". Dissenting opinions are "hate speech". Enlightenment has been replaced with indoctrination. For fucking reals.

So pathetic.

Radical libs not the revolutionaries. The movement against the craziest of their ideas is the patriotic revolution.

https://spectator.org/public-servants-or-the-publics-masters/

Hundreds of California government workers earn more than $500,000 a year — and that’s just the tip of the public-employee compensation iceberg.

More than 100 city and county workers earned total compensation exceeding a half-million dollars in Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Riverside and Orange counties last year.” One need only look at the Transparent California database to see that this is no aberration.

When you see a guy with gray hair on a bicycle, "Progressive" is the last thing you think of.

It makes me ponder about life choices.

jazz_music says

The danger is real.

We could certainly use some of that revolutionary outrage today.

Yep: California is pretty much doing the same things which got Paul Revere et al up in arms.

Yah but all those revolutionary statesmen were slave owners and cis white guys so they are literally HITLER!

jazz_music says

Hircus says

Yet, they don't want free speech. Espescially in schools. They think it's terrific that schools and colleges have this extreme liberal indoctrination bias, and are happy to take action to silence and shame anyone who dares to exercise "freedom of speech". Dissenting opinions are "hate speech". Enlightenment has been replaced with indoctrination. For fucking reals.

You've been listening to Wayne too much.




He makes up new lies every day and posts them on "liberals are ... " I call bullshit on all that.

Not sure who wayne is, but there's been quite a few high profile cases of conservative speakers being barred from speaking at university in recent years. There's lots of people talking about the extreme liberal bias in colleges, and how that creeps into research and more in a self perpetuating cycle. Talking about how conservative opinions aren't welcome, and are often met with hostility. School faculty is not only complicit, but often participates, or gives into the angry libmob's cries for "right to safety" from a guest bad bad speaker.

Remember Bret Weinstein, and that insanity his liberatzi Evergreen college students put him through? btw - he IS a liberal and he has frequently talked in depth about what I wrote above ever since his incident at school. He's intelligent, insightful, articulate, fair, and just plain awesome IMO - recommended listening.

Do you consume any political media variety, such as any conservative sources of news to diversify the lib stuff? Or just CNN/VOX/NYT? You live in a false reality if you only listen to 1 side.

jazz_music says

It is high time that the left vocally rejects the right-wing myth that immigration, even on a large scale, is incompatible with safety and prosperity. Wealthy countries can, and indeed must, accept and manage migration en masse, now and in the coming years. The alternative is intolerable.

Disagree, vehemently. Why should Western countries accept immigration en masse? What is the intolerable alternative - perhaps countries where immigration originates get themselves in order so that population does not want to leave? Or introduce birth control and some rights for women to decrease too high birth rate? About safety - mass assaults on women by "immigrants" were not known until recently in Europs. Why would anyone let in potential terrorists at the time when domestic terrorism in Europe (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna etc) is at its historic low?

jazz_music says

German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s all-too-brief willingness to open her country’s doors to refugees in 2015 offered a glimpse of what a reasonable response to mass migration could look like. “We’ll manage it,” the famously pragmatic leader said. And she was right: Germany, a wealthy nation of 82 million, could manage the 800,000 refugees registered in 2015. Yet, like the rest of Europe, German policy swiftly turned away from “welcome culture” toward swift deportations and harsh deterrence efforts; the paranoiac xenophobia of Europe’s far-right won the day.

Let in 800K in 2015, then 1M in 2016, then 1.5M in 2017, and soon it becomes intolerable and economically infeasible. Germany of 2005 was very safe. Germany of 2018, when I was there last time, had panhandlers and crowds of young, aggressive "Germans" congregating in train stations.

Ms. Lennard, sorry to say, is a fucking idiot.

www.youtube.com/embed/LPjzfGChGlE

georgeliberte says

Cough up these reparations, motherfucker!

Saikat Chakrabarti is a socialist Democrat who worships "Che" Guevara, an Argentine Marxist revolutionary, and would like nothing better to turn America into a communist hell hole: https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2019/07/09/cant-stop-wont-stop-aocs-chief-staff-wears-shirt-supporting-nazi-sympathizer/

One unfortunate problem with the harassment from mainstream media, various SJWs, virtue signalers, and the corrupt deep state is that many people are scared to work for Trump. Thus the pool of potential hires is greatly reduced. Just look at the horrible deal Flynn got: after enough threats from the deep state he was pressured into pleading guilty to lying to the FBI even though the FBI report stated that they didn't think he was lying. Manafort, while definitely scummy, only got taken down because he worked for Trump; Podesta, who did the same kind of things and much worse, roams free because he worked for the Clintons instead.

Tim Aurora says

Not sure what is the accusation here. Is it that she is not black or she is not qualified. She may or may not be a descendant of a slave or a slave owner but how does the disqualify her from being a president or

It's for Dem base to decide how exactly does it disqualify her. :evil_cackle:

Well, pandertarding hooker-fu may not be such a terrible thing in a President, since our nation has decided that flagrant and unembarrassed corruption are the orders of the day.

He also hired AOC for her role.

Tim Aurora says

Not sure what is the accusation here. Is it that she is not black or she is not qualified. She may or may not be a descendant of a slave or a slave owner but how does the disqualify her from being a president or

Well, According to the Left, America is fundamentally flawed for having some Ancestors that practiced Slavery.

Therefore, Kamala Harris is fundamentally flawed for having some Ancestors that practiced Slavery. And cannot be President.