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105049   HeadSet   2019 Sep 25, 12:38pm  

jazz_music says
Also the White House later released the transcript of the phone call with the Ukrainian president later. Lots of sharpie markings on it too.

https://wnep.com/2019/09/25/transcript-of-trump-call-with-ukraine-released-includes-talk-of-giuliani-barr-probing-biden/

Here's the actual document PDF
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf


Good that you posted the actual PDF. Did not see any crime, no quid pro quo.
105050   HeadSet   2019 Sep 25, 1:33pm  

You do realize that video with the people cheering is a fake. Maybe you do know, and I am missing the point, like those soccer fans are a stand in for Republican strategists.
105051   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Sep 25, 1:36pm  

Don't stop believin'

Hold on to that Feeeeeeelin'

Media... Waitin'...
Up and down the Press heh heh hess Room
WaPo Journos in the night

Russia, Cohen...
Stone and Pussy Graaah-ha-habin'
Blockbusters hiding in the niiiiight
105052   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Sep 25, 1:46pm  

jazz_music says
1) There is no guarantee that the transcript released today is accurate in any way.


LOL

jazz_music says
2) Quid pro quo was raised in debate and is not a deal breaker if there is none expressed directly.


"I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and Yatsunuk that they would take action against a State Prosecutor - and they didn't. So they walked out of a press conference and I said, we're not gonna give you the billion dollars"
https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

That State Prosecutor was the one looking into Corruption, and Biden's Son.

Biden put US Foreign Policy second to his desire to protect his corrupt son. Unfit for President, and possibly criminal.
105053   Y   2019 Sep 25, 1:49pm  

A gaggle of screaming hissing libbies...
A Tsunami wave of TDS approaching on the horizon..
Buttered Movietime popcorn stash replenished..
I CLAIM THE LAZYBOY!!!
105054   NDrLoR   2019 Sep 25, 2:01pm  

HeadSet says
Did not see any crime


jazz_music says
1) There is no guarantee that the transcript released today is accurate in any way.


Just like AIDS, HPV and genital herpes, there's no cure for TDS, you have it for life.
105055   RC2006   2019 Sep 25, 2:51pm  

Just read transcripts wow dems fucked themselves with this one. Biden is toast but maybe that was the dems plan all along so they didn't loose face going against him pissing off more centrist democrats, I know that's probably giving them to much credit.
105056   NDrLoR   2019 Sep 25, 3:42pm  

jazz_music says
sad


RC2006 says
dems fucked themselves with this one
105057   RC2006   2019 Sep 25, 4:21pm  

No just listened to NPR and transcripts
105058   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Sep 25, 4:28pm  

The Democrats are like Wile E. Coyote... and blame the Roadrunner for their latest self-inflicted wound!

So Beautiful!
105059   Onvacation   2019 Sep 25, 5:14pm  

What impeachable high crime or misdemeanor has our president committed?
105060   mell   2019 Sep 25, 5:33pm  

Onvacation says
What impeachable high crime or misdemeanor has our president committed?


On MSNPC the womyn said even if no crimes still impeachable lol
105061   Onvacation   2019 Sep 25, 5:53pm  

These Trumped up accusations are lame compared to the years long witch hunt looking for some Russians that must have colluded with someone linked to our president to deny the first female POTUS in history.

Our president was legally elected in a race! Get someone worth voting for to beat him in a fair election or get ready for another half a decade of our president being Trump.
105062   Onvacation   2019 Sep 25, 6:39pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Where the HELL did Obama get so much money after living a life of a 'public servant' for decades?

Book deals and speaking fees. I went to a meeting about a decade ago with this San Francisco non profit company dedicated to helping certain youth get ahead. There was a case of Obama's book. There were several more copies scattered around the waiting room. Book deals, that's why you can buy Hillary's book for 25 cents but she got full royalties.
105063   Hircus   2019 Sep 25, 7:11pm  

jazz_music says
1) There is no guarantee that the transcript released today is accurate in any way.


How did society get to this point? I'm sitting here watching the lefties reiterate how the transcripts are low quality info, yet it's a suitable trigger for impeachment?

I guess you gotta give the birds some birdseed or their attention will shift.
105064   Hircus   2019 Sep 25, 7:37pm  

I think the original was a sports event. It's been reedited many times.
105065   Hircus   2019 Sep 25, 7:50pm  

The left loves their new narrative: "censorship is good because you need protection from words."

All the fragile adult-children cheer.
105066   Shaman   2019 Sep 25, 7:52pm  

I guess the President’s speech was really cutting into her narrative she was promoting about him. How is a newscaster supposed to manufacture the news properly when the subject of that news won’t stop correcting her?
105067   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Sep 25, 7:56pm  

jazz_music says
Am I a leftie? Gee. No one they aren't really transcripts, but summary.


By far the most left leftist regular poster on pat.net
105068   Shaman   2019 Sep 25, 8:11pm  

Your TDS is getting unmanageable. Please get some help. This isn’t the AF we know and laugh about.
105069   rocketjoe79   2019 Sep 25, 8:17pm  

Hey, Kids! It's time for BOMBSHELL BINGO! Watch your liberal media sites for the following words:

BOMBSHELL IMPEACHMENT
SHOCKING WRONGDOING
IRRATIONAL WHISTLEBLOWER
CLASSIFIED (insert applicable shock word here)

When you get five in a row, you win the "OUTRAGED" award, worth one snowflake and a bucket of liberal tears.
105070   Misc   2019 Sep 25, 8:25pm  

I think it hit hard when he ranted about the Deutsche Bank note finally going to bring down Trump, but was debunked in less than 2 hours.
105071   RWSGFY   2019 Sep 25, 8:45pm  

The lesson of this story, kids, is pretty simple: never give up your nukes no matter what.
105072   NDrLoR   2019 Sep 25, 9:22pm  

jazz_music says
So you’re watching Fox News right now, probably
I don't, but so what if I did? The fact that arenas full of grown people crying after the election results says it all. Those people don't have lives. Another thing that says it all is the hysteria during the Electoral College voting procedures and the hysteria during Kavanaugh's confirmation, with mobs clawing at doors and having to be removed. This is where all this comes from, 11/8/16.
105073   steverbeaver   2019 Sep 25, 10:20pm  

Nah man it will get about six times worse before shit flies apart. There's a very large mass of NPCs giving it momentum.
105074   steverbeaver   2019 Sep 25, 10:22pm  

Sounds legit, a more accurate account of what really happened does not exist.
105075   Blue   2019 Sep 26, 12:32am  

The costs are getting out of control for many people.
Discourage all employers to sponsoring health plans.
Publish all the average/median medical costs per treatment-type every year. (like Patrick mentioned many times)
So that just like auto, one can shop around and buy individually.
105076   Booger   2019 Sep 26, 4:27am  

It's all Obama's fault!!!
105077   Booger   2019 Sep 26, 4:40am  

105078   Onvacation   2019 Sep 26, 5:43am  

jazz_music says

How did society get to this point?

Because some people deeply hate America and can't accept that Trump is our president.
105079   Ceffer   2019 Sep 26, 9:51am  

Won't America feel betrayed when all they do is seize plastic surgery offices, sequester and requisition all botox supplies, and demand free intestinal bypasses and vaginal rejuvenation surgeries?
105080   zzyzzx   2019 Sep 26, 12:31pm  

Fake news.
105081   theoakman   2019 Sep 26, 12:38pm  

HEYYOU says
‘Based on sober scientific analysis, we are deeply within a climate emergency state but people are not aware of it,’ he told Horizon on the sidelines of the European Research and Innovation Days event in Brussels, Belgium. ‘We don’t want to see the truth. As Greta Thunberg would say, I would like people to panic and take action according to the state of emergency we are in.’

https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/i-would-people-panic-top-scientist-unveils-equation-showing-world-climate-emergency.html


‘If we go into a runaway climate effect, the damage may be between €100 trillion and the loss of civilisation,’ he said.
Brainwashed scientist,worried about money when he may have to survive in a collapsed environment.


Ahhh...100 trillion loss and the loss of civilization. Very scientific.
105082   Onvacation   2019 Sep 26, 1:33pm  

jazz_music says

Trump is not on your side no matter what you think.

Nor was Obama or Bush. They were still our presidents. Do you think Hillary would have made America great again?

Looks like Trump will be our president for the next five years unless a good candidate comes forward; know any?
105083   Onvacation   2019 Sep 26, 1:49pm  

jazz_music says
Obama got a lot of people health coverage who would have died horrible deaths otherwise.

Okay. If you say so without any evidence...
105084   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Sep 26, 1:53pm  

One is extortion by the president, using a threat of withholding aid to obtain something of value. The second crime is conspiracy to engage in extortion between the president and Rudy Giuliani. And third crime is conspiracy to violate election law, given there may be three underlying crimes, I think we’re beyond the issue of the whistleblower.

1. Nope - no threat of withholding aid. HOWEVER, Biden did threaten to withhold aid in order to have Porky fire Prosecutor Shokin. Biden, then VP, bragged about it. Including daring Porky to go ask Obama if he thought he was bluffing.
https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

2. There is no extortion. As President, bearing a signed mutual criminal investigation agreement (signed by Bill Clinton) with the Ukraine, and as the chief Law Enforcement Official in the land, Trump is well within his rights to ask for cooperation with the Ukrainian President in investigating a US Citizen. Indeed, it's an official duty for him to do so.

3. No Election Law, since Primaries are Private Club Events. Either Republicans or Democrats could not hold primaries at all and nominate their candidate in a smoke filled room.

What we're seeing is projection, where the Democrats and the Media (but I repeat myself) are accusing the President of doing what they did.

We're also seeing Political Judo, where Trump is going to hoist the Democrats by their own petard.
105085   HeadSet   2019 Sep 26, 2:57pm  

Wall Street Democratic donors warn the party: We’ll sit out, or back Trump, if you nominate Elizabeth Warren

You actually believe that? This is just shilling to make Warren look tough on Wall St and thus enhance her appeal to the masses. The reality is that Big Banks know that no matter how loud a Dem talks about curtailing Wall St, it is just a call for a Wall St campaign contribution or other "donation." Stroke the check and it will be business as usual.
105086   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 26, 3:24pm  

HeadSet says
Stroke the check and it will be business as usual.

I don't know. She really has gone full-on crazy. Once Biden drops out of the race, I wonder if the remaining candidates will move even more left or try to fill Biden's void.
105087   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Sep 26, 4:02pm  

Democrats are suicidal types, only problem is they try to pull others along with them.

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