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This video, and also it's promotion is a good example of why fake news is so prevalent.

Some people don't consider that a 1.2 second video clip might be missing some context, making it's words and message completely different. They also don't believe their favorite news station would cut clips in a dishonest way - they "trust" that the 1.2 seconds is reflective of the true meaning.

But both of those assumptions are very wrong. Fake news spreads quickly due to this.

This thread from Dan Crenshaw sets fire to the dumb arguments by Progs who are trying to re-write history and divide our nation with stupid videos like this.

A couple samples:

"On March 3rd, the day after you claim Trump should have shut our economy down, this is how the WHO downplayed the virus:

“COVID-19 spreads less efficiently than flu, transmission does not appear to be driven by people who are not sick”

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020 …

Would the America public really have accepted millions of jobs destroyed for a virus that had infected just 102 people by March 2? Especially considering Italy would not lock down until March 10th, Spain on March 14th, and the UK on March 23?"




https://threader.app/thread/1250924071237439489

Can you do anything other than link propaganda pieces by leftist sources?

Agitprop Marching Orders: Not only is your mission to promulgate fake and deliberately misleading information approved by the Politburo, you are free to embellish it with any false and misleading information of your own which furthers the agendas of deception.

I think Orange Man Bad is sinking to even greater low of using whitehouse.org to poison minds of NPC's!!!

https://whitehouse.org/

www.youtube.com/embed/oAkWp7SasJ0&feature=emb_title

This is one of very few good trolls of Trump I have seen out there...

Why does anyone give a flying fuck about Kanye West? Never thought I'd see the day on patnet where this is a going concern. Or am I mental or something???

"Everything I know about Kardashians I've learned against my will"

Jazz posting old news again as if it was somehow new.
Breaking! Greeks assault Trojan walls! Ajax thunders while Helen weeps! More at 10!

Where are my pearls when I need to grasp them?

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There’s plenty of shame here, both for the makers of that dishonest video and the poster who tossed it here like a dirty banana peel on a garbage lid.

Maybe start one thread and post all of this in there. You just did like 3-4 bitching about Trump because of an airborne virus. Not sure how people let one man influence their life so much. Grow a pair.

WookieMan says

annoyed1 says

0.4% is still over a million Americans. How high does the death rate has to be before closing movie theaters and bars are warranted?

Never honestly. They should be open now. This isn't some Hollywood virus that is killing everybody. We know who it's killing, they're just too fucking stubborn and are the policy makers in this country. Huge pussies. So hey, let's fuck everyone else over AND get free money they'll never have to pay back. Boomers are a fucking virus. Open up and let them all fucking die...

Boomers are asshoe!

WookieMan says

Why does anyone give a flying fuck about Kanye West?

Jonathan Pageau, who is friends with Jordan Peterson, gives an interesting symbolic interpretation here. Obviously, YMMV...
www.youtube.com/embed/b1LjF9FnM5g

The things that chart shows me is
1- everybody is flattening the curve, but not reducing the curve, except china which has dropped to nothing either because
1a. They are lying about their stats
1b. It was a biological attack against the world, and they have the antidote baked into their food supply.

Time for some Kung Fu Chew??


Patrick says

ThreeBays says

There's not going to be a quick return to normal.

Prediction: There will indeed be a quick return to normal, except, hopefully, for some valuable lessons learned about why we should not continue to outsource to China.

Why the quick return to normal? Because pretty much every country on earth is on the same curve, showing this thing lasts about 90 days even with varying responses among countries:



More predictions:

- Democrats will blame Trump for not doing enough
- Democrats will blame Trump for doing too much
- Democrats will attempt to continue to outsource factories to China and insource illegals from Mexico, and scream !RACIST! at anyone who objects
- voters will get serious about objecting to the devastation of the US working class, and Democrats will lose not only this...

:
"B-b-b-b-but the borders. Don't you see, Great Leader get's it. Before he was elected the southern US border was wide open. Obama was constantly trying to see how many illegal aliens (new democrat voters) he could get in to the country as fast as possible. All those stories about the build up of border security under Obama, and the deportation of Mexicans that committed crimes during OBama admin, and the actual decrease of illegal immigrants in the country over that time period, is all liberal propaganda."

"Only great leader an keep America great now that he has totally succeeded in bringing us back to our glory days."

Onvacation says

At least the alarmists have left global warming climate change alone for a while.

Another bonus: we don't have to hear the 24/7 drone about mostly-imaginary racism.

Not hearing about racism 24/7 is not only much more pleasant, it's actually the most effective way to end what racism there is.

Morgan Freeman and Mike Wallace:

WALLACE: Black History Month, you find …

FREEMAN: Ridiculous.

WALLACE: Why?

FREEMAN: You’re going to relegate my history to a month?

WALLACE: Come on.

FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.

WALLACE: I’m Jewish.

FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?

WALLACE: There isn’t one.

FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?

WALLACE: No, no.

FREEMAN: I don’t either. I don’t want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.

WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until …?

FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You’re not going to say, “I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.” Hear what I’m saying?

Patrick says

Onvacation says

At least the alarmists have left global warming climate change alone for a while.

Another bonus: we don't have to hear the 24/7 drone about mostly-imaginary racism.

Not hearing about racism 24/7 is not only much more pleasant, it's actually the most effective way to end what racism there is.

Morgan Freeman and Mike Wallace:

WALLACE: Black History Month, you find …

FREEMAN: Ridiculous.

WALLACE: Why?

FREEMAN: You’re going to relegate my history to a month?

WALLACE: Come on.

FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.

WALLACE: I’m Jewish.

FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?

WALLACE: There isn’t one.

FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?

WALLACE: No, no.

FREEMAN: I don’t either. I don’t want a Black History...

One of my favorite convos. Unfortunately I ran into a MSNPCCNNBBC lamestream leftoid headline on my phone talking about the next drought! which is! coming! soon! cause climate! change! bad! WTF?? They had the guts after one of the rainiest and snowiest seasons in CA and with the whole East and parts of midwest just getting dumped on massively with cold storms with snow and rain to bring up this shit again. lol unbelievable.

The most interesting part would be to uncover the office or PR agency (if there is one) creating these media scares, figuring out who is paying them, and why.

It all kinda does reek of Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud:

Edward Louis Bernays (/bərˈneɪz/; German: [bɛɐ̯ˈnaɪs]; November 22, 1891 − March 9, 1995) was an Austrian-American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, referred to in his obituary as "the father of public relations".[3] Bernays was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life.[4] ...

His best-known campaigns include a 1929 effort to promote female smoking by branding cigarettes as feminist "Torches of Freedom" and his work for the United Fruit Company connected with the CIA-orchestrated overthrow of the democratically elected Guatemalan government in 1954.

Tenpoundbass says

zzyzzx says

What am I missing? I don't get it.

Liberals irrational fear of everything.

Patrick says

Shaman says

The CDC numbers of infected/dead indicate a 4% mortality rate in the USA.

That's clearly wrong.

The virus kills on the order of 0.4% when you include all of the people who have been infected, per studies in Iceland and Germany. Maybe less.

The 4% is for people who are sick enough to seek medical treatment, which is a minority, about 10% of those infected.

4% x 10% = 0.4%

Most people don't understand the difference between 4% and 0.4% and don't care either.

Can I still use pangolins to comb my hair?

WookieMan says

Why does anyone give a flying fuck about Kanye West? Never thought I'd see the day on patnet where this is a going concern. Or am I mental or something???

Seems like partisan people will look for any opportunity to prove their point. It's been forever - like, fucking never - since I invoked Kayne West in an argument. But, like the great Kim Kardashian says...

Y'all remember that time, Liberals got mad because we wouldn't stop going to Trump Concerts, so they cooked up a pandemic and put the whole world on Time Out?

Shoot the Virginia Governor in the face? Would that be the guy in the klan hood, or the one in black face?

Tim Aurora says

I also understand that we need to open the economy for the daily wage earners who cannot survive the lock-down. The answer is testings and tracing like South Korea and Japan

I get your comparison to driving laws and pools. That makes sense to a degree. But, it's not apples to apples. Everyone can drive the speed limit exactly and obey every single traffic law and accidents are still going to happen. And that's with something we can physically control, a vehicle.

How do you control a virus? You don't. At the end of the day it's a risk that you or I cannot control. At some point people that feel at risk just have to stay in place. I think some people are also thinking that the one's saying this is just a flu are discounting the fact that there CURRENTLY is a vaccine for most strains. We may pass the death total during this first blast of Covid versus regular flu, but WITHOUT a vaccine this is going to be on par with the flu.

A not vaccine-able strain of a virus is going around and it still hasn't beaten the typical flu. Pause for a second and think about that? Step back and ponder the reaction?

Tim Aurora says

The answer is testings and tracing like South Korea and Japan

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51836898

LOL! Japan had low number in early March because their government was suppressing testing (thereby suppressing numbers) in order to have to Olympic Game this year. The Japanese case numbers magically mushroomed after they decided to postpone the Olympics to next year.

Testing and tracing are meaningless after the contagious disease is community-spreading. What you are suggesting is pervasive monitoring and removing of all privacy rights on account of a Cold (not even rising to the death rate or count of normal flu season).

Tenpoundbass says

so they cooked up a pandemic and put the whole world on Time Out?

I don't know the who, when, where (well China) and how of this all. But I'm pretty convinced at this point it was all contrived/plotted. We have people in mass hysteria over a virus that has no vaccine that is less deadly than your typical influenza WITH a vaccine. That makes zero sense....? Hospital are laying people off. Educated people are freaked out. It's fucking weird.

Reality says

What you are suggesting is pervasive monitoring and removing of all privacy rights on account of a Cold (not even rising to the death rate or count of normal flu season).

And there's a vax for the flu too. We may not top deaths for Covid-19 versus influenza WITHOUT a vaccine for Covid. I get more angry every day over this. Hence why I'm so combative to a few users here. Most of their stances are actual lies and made up BS.

A COVID-19 death comaprison sounds like the 9th circle of Hell

There are so many variables; I have a vent dependent patient who tested positive and yet was fairly asymptomatic and seems to have done ok... while seemingly healthy patients are sick as shit.

I worked hospice for 20+ years; I saw patients who smoked all of their lives who were free of lung cancer, breathing problems, etc. It astounds me how some patients who smoked all of their lives live well into their 90's. But I guess it's important to remember that Euell Gibbons died of natural causes...

elliemae says

It astounds me how some patients who smoked all of their lives live well into their 90's

I was shocked my grandma who sucked down 3 packs a day made it to 86 I think. You also have people that will die of alcohol poisoning drinking half a bottle at 20 and then a guy that can drink a bottle of vodka a day live until they're 70.

Life and health doesn't play fair. So try to enjoy it.

logic says

Wookieman says

We may pass the death total during this first blast of Covid versus regular flu, but WITHOUT a vaccine this is going to be on par with the flu.

A not vaccine-able strain of a virus is going around and it still hasn't beaten the typical flu. Pause for a second and think about that? Step back and ponder the reaction?

Reality says

(not even rising to the death rate or count of normal flu season)

Not really sure I understand these comments. How do you define beating "the typical flu"?


Anyway, according to the CDC influenz death rates, US Covid-19 deaths have (37,000) already surpassed 2010-2012 and 2015-16 flu seasons. That's 3 of the last 9 flu season.

Guess what. In 3 days we will surpass 3 more of those past 9 years. 6 of 9.

2017-18 season had 80k deaths. What's your point? It's like a severe influenza season.

They're doing the BS with Germany too - they finally found a European country that compares more favorably to the USA than Spain or Italy or the UK.

I'm more interested in the Data that is showing 30%+ of the asymptomatic population they test have COVID19 Antibodies.

www.youtube.com/embed/iiAMnYCv2u4

logic says

mell says

2017-18 season had 80k deaths. What's your point? It's like a severe influenza season.

That is my point 80k deaths is a servere flu season, not to be confused with a "typical" or "normal" flu season. We will be blowing by a "typical" or "normal" flu season in a few days.

Sorry, I'm just being logical.

Sure but we don't lock down the whole country during a severe flu season, in fact we did nothing. We will likely not reach the 80k this season, next season the counter starts anew like with the flu, counting deaths throughout the year would be cheating unless you do it with the flu and common cold as well. This won't be the last time this happens, but if we have a pandemic every few decades or make it every decade and lose a couple hundred thousand, how does this make any difference in the world as a whole with its growing population of close to 8 billion. It's insane to cause widespread economic devastation, depression, drug use and suicide in the tens of millions for this. Since you apply logic you should agree with this, Spock would have weighed the greater good for the young masses over saving a few who mostly already lived 80% or more of their lives. So should we.

You could probably "save" hundreds of thousands of lives every year dying of environmental causes, pneumoniae, lung cancer, you name it by shutting down all industrial production and all car/plane/ship traffic, INCLUDING electric cars which kill as many people if you take manufacturing and small particle dust into account. CV-19 is no different just because it's contagious. If you shut down everything you would likely also shut down all technological and medical progress, and of course cause world-wide economic and real starvation and depression, suicides etc. There are always trade-offs and this one is clearly not worth it.

The plan is to restore solvency to SS by reducing payees.