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111462   WookieMan   2020 Jun 2, 1:19pm  

thomasdong1776 says
Cons wrong yet again.

"Sweden's death rate has risen to one of the highest in the world, significantly higher than its Nordic neighbours which locked down early and have similar health care, political systems, and population density.

As of Tuesday, the country of around 10 million people has more than 4,400 deaths.

Per capita, that's more than 4.5 times the rate in Denmark and more than nine times the rate in Norway."

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-sweden-rushes-launch-no-lockdown-assessment-inquiry-deaths-mount-2020-6

These were people that were probably going to die anyway within the next year. Time table just expedited. Deaths matter, but so do the demographics and overall health of those dying matter equally as much. This isn't some scary Hollywood pandemic.
111463   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 2, 1:21pm  

thomasdong1776 says
Cons


Huh? Swedes are "cons" now? What happened to "beautiful working Socialism"?
111464   Shaman   2020 Jun 2, 1:22pm  

4,000 is nothing.
Democrat lockdowns are the worst policy idea in generations.
111465   Shaman   2020 Jun 2, 1:29pm  

jazz_music says
The only way is activism.

Against oligarchy.

Bottom line.


So elect Biden and Hillary!
They represent the oligarchs, take their money and implement their policies against the people.
Bbbbut they’re Democrats!
So yeah!
LOL!
111466   Reality   2020 Jun 2, 1:29pm  

thomasdong1776 says
As of Tuesday, the country of around 10 million people has more than 4,400 deaths.


4400 out of 10 million is 0.05%.

If you are that afraid of death, you should ban yourself from cars (which kill 35,000 to 50,000 every year in the US alone), ban yourself from using electricity, ban yourself from hospitals (which kills 100,000 American each year with contagious diseases acquired there, and likely higher number from malpractice), and ban yourself from swimming.
111467   theoakman   2020 Jun 2, 1:36pm  

And Swedes aren't currently burning down all of their cities with 3 months of pent up anger from being unemployed and stuck at home.
111468   EBGuy   2020 Jun 2, 1:40pm  

Seven times the SF Bay Area death rate from COVID-19.
111469   marcus   2020 Jun 2, 2:02pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
If the facts do not stop lying, the facts will be deported.


+++
111471   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 2, 2:05pm  

Who is anti-democracy?

The Remainers in the UK
Those refusing to "normalize" Trump, a duly elected President
Those complaining about those "Not listening to Experts", though the COVID fuckup (if not financial crisis) should do away with that bogus claim.

Etc.

It's the Media-Academia-Big Tech complex that is anti-democratic and pro Oligarchy.
111472   mell   2020 Jun 2, 2:08pm  

So? Learn about population density and comorbidites as well as avg. population age.
111473   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 2, 2:08pm  

Sweden's death rate is below Spain, UK, Belgium, etc. all of which shutdown. The UK is just about starting to maybe loosen a little.
111474   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 2, 2:10pm  

We go through this over and over again.

The very slow bounceback from the worst recession in almost a century isn't much of an accomplishment.

Pushing well beyond IS an accomplishment, it's much harder.
111475   marcus   2020 Jun 2, 2:49pm  

Tenpoundbass says
That's the Climate Change Chart with different labels.


Sad thing is that's true,...for some people.

They don't want to know.
111476   marcus   2020 Jun 2, 2:51pm  

NoCoupForYou says
it's much harder.


Yeah it costs trillions
111477   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 2, 3:17pm  

marcus says
Yeah it costs trillions


Whereas Obama had to double the deficit to get tepid return to normalcy, followed by a 2-3 year plateau, and only started going back up when Trump announced he was running.
111478   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jun 2, 3:30pm  

I jumped to page three to get past off of the recent holier than thou content over the last few weeks.
And found the fan page for the whole Democrat Primaries.
Why would a Religion mag be covering the Democrat primaries like they Jeff Bezos?
Why would that rag be so political party biased, when Religion has no such bias.


https://religionnews.com/author/jackjenkins/page/3/
111479   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 2, 3:37pm  

Most Episcopagan Leaders, like most Reform Jewish Rabbis or Unitarian-Universalist Charlatans, aren't religious leaders. They're Socialists.

See also - which I posted before seeing this.
https://patrick.net/post/1332652/2020-06-02-episcopagan-bishop-speaks-out

The great news is that only Old Hippies remain in these denominations.

Let me be clear: Any pastor who is more upset that Caesar is defending Churches, than at the Antichrists who attacked it, is a servant of some Worldly Philosophy rather than Jesus.
111480   richwicks   2020 Jun 2, 4:02pm  

jazz_music says
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-job-boom-actually-the-fewest-number-of-jobs-created-in-the-last-6-years-0465cb9b54c2/

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised he’d be the “greatest jobs president God ever created.”


Yeah, it's all BS. The statistics the government uses to calculate all this is garbage.

If you can't find a job in 6 months - guess what? You're not unemployed!
111481   richwicks   2020 Jun 2, 4:12pm  

jazz_music says
(sigh)


How do you fail to realize that calling the "news" media "fake news" and getting at least 1/2 of the country to understand this is true helps to undermine the oligarchy?

That is the most powerful tool they have - the ability to manufacture consent. That's gone.

How do you fail to realize that showing the department of justice, and the intelligence agencies are corrupt helps to undermine the oligarchy?

They are the enforcers.

You understand that it's not left/right - I'm in complete agreement. Where we disagree is that Trump is a "Republican". He's not even really a Democrat. He's a bull in a very fancy china shop and all the fine china - is the apparatus of the oligarchy.

I don't expect him to fix problems, but it would be nice if he did - I expect him to expose problems and he's doing that just fine.

Like him, hate him - who cares? He is your ally IF you really want to dismantle and expose the oligarchy.
111482   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 2, 4:18pm  

111483   clambo   2020 Jun 2, 4:29pm  

The total deaths are not yet known everywhere.

Maybe Sweden got them sooner, while other places will get it later.

Add it all up and it might be the same.

Of course, NY governor Cuomo sending infected people to nursing homes might have caused a little bump in dead over there.
111484   PeopleUnited   2020 Jun 2, 4:37pm  

We won’t know enough to applaud or condemn their response to the virus for at least a year. There are too many unknowns including the possibility that herd immunity in non-lockdown areas will mean the majority of deaths are in the past while lack of herd immunity in lockdown areas means the majority of deaths are yet to be realized but may begin to mount as months turn to years due to lack of herd immunity in those lockdown areas.
111485   joshuatrio   2020 Jun 2, 5:06pm  

Tim Aurora says
Lebron is the opressed and Trump is the Opressor and talking about violence ( the only leader to do so).


HAHAHA HAHAHA!!!!!! Nominated.
111486   WookieMan   2020 Jun 2, 6:00pm  

Tim Aurora says
OK, I get it now. I agree with image but it was out of context for this topic. With Trumpsters posting weird stuff, I was unable to connect.

There's nothing to connect. The image has nothing to do with Trump. It has nothing to do with "Trumpsters" as you say. It has everything to do with the average person about to get smashed while being lectured by a rich piece of shit that is a puppet himself and doesn't even know it. He's telling you that you're an idiot, while he himself is an idiot. You don't understand the tank Tim. That's the problem.
111487   Booger   2020 Jun 2, 6:56pm  

111488   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 2, 7:19pm  

Looters kill retired Black Police Captain.

www.youtube.com/embed/gmnA6S_0kk8
111489   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Jun 2, 7:21pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Looters kill retired Black Police Captain.

www.youtube.com/embed/gmnA6S_0kk8


According to Joe Biden he wasn’t black
111490   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Jun 2, 7:29pm  

Tim your head might explode, but Trump also agreed with protesters, but not the looters.

They probably don’t show that on leftist sites you visit.
111491   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Jun 2, 8:54pm  

Should have fired belt fed ammo till even crickets silenced.
111492   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 2, 9:46pm  

thomasdong1776 says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/they-turned-holy-ground-into-a-battleground-clergy-teargassed-by-washington-police/ar-BB14Vzsq


Blatant lie. No law enforcement agency in the entire US tear gasses peaceful protestors. They would be subject to state and federal investigation and there would be ample video evidence.

Shame on you for giving that article a second glance and shame on you for trying to pass such a heavy turd onto the rest of us.

What does happen is protests are ordered to disperse once an assembly is considered unlawful. If they fail to do so, it is no longer a peaceful protest but rather an unlawful one.

I knew the msm lies. This one is a pretty miserable one.
111494   zzyzzx   2020 Jun 3, 7:40am  

When I go shopping I don't know if I should be bringing a mask or a brick now.
111495   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 3, 8:07am  

The don’t pay Federal or state income taxes. Only full time employees make enough to pay federal and state income taxes.

So I don’t know why they would want a tax cut.
111496   socal2   2020 Jun 3, 8:08am  

Sad that we have to defend the memorial of the man that freed the slaves from Democrats, BLM and Antifa.

Democrats still haven't gotten over that Republicans freed the slaves.
111497   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 3, 8:11am  

thomasdong1776 says
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/politics/military-national-guard-trump-protests.html

Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote on Twitter that “America is not a battleground. Our fellow citizens are not the enemy.” Gen. Tony Thomas, the former head of the Special Operations Command, tweeted: “The ‘battle space’ of America??? Not what America needs to hear … ever, unless we are invaded by an adversary or experience a constitutional failure … ie a Civil War.”

Adm. Mike Mullen, another former chairman, wrote: “Whatever Trump’s goal in conducting his visit, he laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces.”


What does this have to do with the false assertion your posted that tear gas was shot at peaceful protestors?

Also why aren’t you capable of responding? How does a civil discourse take place if all you do is copy and paste propaganda?
111498   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 3, 8:26am  

That pair of free Nikes ends up costing to much, eh?
111499   HeadSet   2020 Jun 3, 8:36am  

"Rioters have targeted the home of right-wing journalist Cassandra Fairbanks

Why? It was a left wing cop in a left wing district with a left wing police chief in a left wing city with a left wing mayor.
111500   rocketjoe79   2020 Jun 3, 9:10am  

Remember: When Seconds Count, help is only Minutes Away.
Trust Law Enforcement to clean up the bodies after the fact!
111501   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jun 3, 9:38am  

That shit aint right, you go storm the monument who in the hell do they think they are. They have no right to do that. You have all the right to deface every Washington monument you want to Dong! you go charge them and set them straight.

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