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36816   ttsmyf   2013 Aug 30, 3:15am  

Say hey! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here:

Elaboration: http://www.showrealhist.com/RHandRD.html

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden!

36817   HydroCabron   2013 Aug 30, 3:17am  

egads101 says

the oracle can show you the mistake in your thinking. the investors will sell at a certain price, but no lower. While that may someday limit home price increases beyond that amount, it won't lower them below today's amount.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_key

36818   retire59   2013 Aug 30, 3:38am  

Why would investment portfolios only sell if they get the price they paid or more for real estate? Past history does not guarantee that. There are many reasons that investors get out for less than what they paid....it is the individuals who lives in a home that has more reasons to hold on. Or the small investor that has one or two homes.

So I am not that convinced that investors only sell for a profit...especially real estate which has built in expenses such as taxes and insurance, etc....so I am not as sure as you....just lived too long to see that history tends to repeat itself....

36819   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 30, 4:07am  

1. quig

a quig is a long haired frail creature with human like characteristics,yet more primative.

36820   Bigsby   2013 Aug 30, 5:01am  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Or maybe the rebels did it. That is precisely why there shouldn't be a rush to judgement and the UN should be fully involved this time.

I agree.

Agree with what?

36821   michaelsch   2013 Aug 30, 5:11am  

OK, that's what Americans think:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/30/poll-shows-unease-over-potential-u-s-attack-on-syria/

and that's what John Kerry says:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323324904579045072997133480.html
"None of the actual evidence was released."

Note, it's just a repetition of infamous WMD of Iraq. I believe that some evidences would be released would they exist. The only reason not to release them is the message that the Empire wants to send to the World: I own you, when I want to attack you I need no reason, my wish is the reason.

The question is: why now? Here we may only guess, but i think it's related to Snowden case. US government was badly humiliated in this case. Partly it humiliated itself, like with Evo Morales' plane grounding or 35 years sentence to Manning, but partially the humiliation came from Russia and personally Putin. So attacking Syria is a way to show Putin who is the Emperor and who is just a local satrap.

bgamall4, the Greater Israel dream -- or Israel from Nilus to Euphrates -- is just that: a dream, I don't think it influences this current decision, no matter what some neo-con or neo-lib zionists may think about it. I'm not even sure the state of Israel really wants Asad regime fall. They know what a chaos with the rise of strong Islamists paramilitary forces will follow such a fall. They tried it in Lebanon and were defeated there.

36823   retire59   2013 Aug 30, 5:53am  

Sorry, but it has...one example, during the Great Depression, when folks needed cash they sold what they had for whatever they could get. It is not the same exact situation, it is the fundamentals that repeat. Same holds true for a stock market crash...an event happens that no one expects, and cash is needed, so people sell for whatever they can get before they cannot sell at all or for a lot less and take a loss. If you are looking for an exact example with every detail the same, you will not find that in history....it is an understanding of human nature....by the way, I do not care to argue or counter. I come to this site to read, learn and for a good discussion. You may be right, but I place my decisions on past history and so far so good. ...I wish you the best in your decisions as well.

36824   anonymous   2013 Aug 30, 6:24am  

"Vetted by the banks"

The same banks that roberto always claimed were so effing stupid

LOL

36825   ttsmyf   2013 Aug 30, 7:06am  

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999:

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
(Recent Dow day is Friday, August 30, 2013 __ Level is 94.6)

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

36826   michaelsch   2013 Aug 30, 7:23am  

Yes, gsr, that's getting really interesting.

And according to this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

Prince Bangar actually proposed to Putin creating a world oil cartel, if Putin gives up supporting Assad.

36827   anonymous   2013 Aug 30, 7:58am  

I lol at you for being a giant jack ass

36828   exfatguy   2013 Aug 30, 8:00am  

None of this matters because the new economy states that when one bubble bursts another one will simply be inflated.

You can't predict in what form the bubble will be, but for damn sure there will be one.

Housing will never go down.

36829   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Aug 30, 8:44am  

sbh says

Not by humans, no; but by capital, the stored labor of humans

Whose stored labor? Why do so many trust fund babies have so much capital without working, while Ms. Hernandez keeps mopping those floors and wiping the windows has no capital?

36830   ttsmyf   2013 Aug 30, 9:30am  

egads101 says

Most of the Dow stock companies from 1890 aren't even around any more. They change which companies are in the index...

So, your graph means nothing, like this thread.

Perception and non perception are both merely illusions.

You are questioning the relevance of the Dow. Are you perhaps doing this just because the inflation-adjusted Dow does well-show to the people their serial herd behavior?

DO NOTE the substantial similarity of the Real S&P (by Robert Shiller):
http://www.econ.yale.edu/~shiller/data/ie_data.xls

36831   dunnross   2013 Aug 30, 10:11am  

Except the channel you're showing is higher than the previous channel, which means that the bear market in gold should have ended back in 2012, when it broke out of the lower channel, but, due to bank manipulation, it was delayed. Bank manipulation could not get it to break down into the lower channel again, so now, primarily because of China and India buyer, western bank have lost control of it.

36832   B.A.C.A.H.   2013 Aug 30, 10:36am  

Arguing about lines on charts about things that already happened.

How silly is that?!

36833   dunnross   2013 Aug 30, 12:26pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Arguing about lines on charts about things that already happened.

It's not silly at all. There is a logical explanation to it. Areas of support and resistance are real, because, other traders see them too, and to break through them, it takes a real fundamental event. If the event doesn't occur, then, the price action just stays within the channel. TA is not good without Fundamental Analysis, just like pure FA can't be done without technicals.

36834   dunnross   2013 Aug 30, 12:34pm  

egads101 says

In other words, "Technical Analysis is complete Bullshit. But enough people believe that Bullshit that it actually works, since they will all see the same buy and sell signals....

You can say that about almost anything:

1. Money ($USD)
2. Real Estate Prices.
3. Federal Reserve.
4. US Govt
...

The list goes on and on.

36835   NDrLoR   2013 Aug 30, 1:45pm  

Dan8267 says

I don't how nationalizing healthcare and socializing its cost is connected to the despotism of the Soviet Union.

This hour program has nothing to do with national health care but rather how in today's world feminism is inextricably bound up with Marxism.

36836   Shaman   2013 Aug 30, 2:52pm  

I think you need to completely own your handle before it can come to define you.

36837   RentingForHalfTheCost   2013 Aug 30, 2:56pm  

egads101 says

trying to identify companies that are going to increase their dividends over the upcoming decade, and buying them to hold forever.

I heard rumors of a REIT created by some new up-and-comer in Phoenix that has a nack for finding 20% and more ROI for rentals. Rumor has it that his dividend growth surpasses that of Apple and Google in their prime. The only expense is the risk of life during collection day, but so far so good. Hey, there is no easy money. What is a few gunshots verses making cold cash?

36838   B.A.C.A.H.   2013 Aug 30, 3:54pm  

i-Think you think too much about Ol' i-wog. Is he really so important to spend that much time?

Bay Arean Cool And Hip

36839   HEY YOU   2013 Aug 30, 4:29pm  

After reading all our threads & comments,everyday, We all can't use the handle, ASSHOLE.

36840   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Aug 31, 10:55am  

If it was possible to quantify the unquantifiable, it's likely that Goldman Sachs with their countless Math PhDs would have crunched it by now. Anybody remember Black-Shoales?

Also, doesn't capitalist theory say that once you identify a need, the margin disappears? The Tool Booth Situation?

I think my new tactic is to simply by garbage that has been oversold. Anybody seen the Greek ETF over the past few years? Buy when there is blood on the streets, sell when everybody is talking the asset to the moon and possibly beyond to the next parsec.

When Gold goes back to $300-400/oz. I'm a buyer. When Silver falls into the mid-teens, I'm a buyer.

36841   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Aug 31, 11:48am  

When did Walmart begin the downward spiral? When the founder died, and the new management fired or drove to quitting the thousands of long time employees making teens per hour with benefits.

They pursued a policy of aggressive expansion that drove tons of local businesses out of business. Fine, competition.

But then, they ate themselves. The multiple checkout lines were useless, since they were only partially staffed. The stores fell apart, disorganized shelves, filthy floors, overworked, hateful staff - the only people who wanted to work at Walmart were those who had no choice.

The lack of substitutes in rural areas makes Walmart a mad house at certain times (like all weekend long).

Having cut the staff to the bone, even Forbes noticed that Walmart seems to be cutting store management, too:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/walterloeb/2013/07/17/why-are-walmart-stores-such-a-mess/

In the past few years, people started to get wise to Walmart's trickery. People now make sure there is no "W" at the end of a model identifier when comparing Walmart prices to competitors - although Walmart got wise to that and got manufacturers to drop any serial number ID for their inferior Wally Versions:

I wanted an inexpensive digital camera for my daughter. After finding one with the basic features I wanted, I went to sears, target and walmart to check prices. All 3 stores sold the a camera with the exact same model number. Sears -$119 target -$109 walmart - $99 . I bought it at the manufactures online store but when the camera was delivered it DID NOT have all the features that the Sears and Target salesperson had shown me (couldn’t get help at the Walmart store). I contacted the factory store and asked them if perhaps the one I got was an older version of this camera since the model number on the unit was the correct. The customer service agent apologized and said I must have gotten one of the “WALMART” cameras. These units were manufactured just for them with the same model number but with reduced features. So while the price was a little lower at walmart, the value was worse since it was a stripped down version.

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/NussbaumOnDesign/archives/2007/02/can_this_be_true_of_wal-mart.html

TL;DR: They'll find the cheaper price is due to reduced features, not better prices than the competition.

36842   Blurtman   2013 Aug 31, 3:01pm  

She is hiding a co-conspirator in there.

36843   Ceffer   2013 Aug 31, 3:46pm  

Child bearing hips. Looks like she's good for a battalion of sociopathic Scotsmen.

36845   HydroCabron   2013 Sep 1, 1:55am  

No way that could be hard to trace.

Satellite imagery can be cross-referenced with data on gravitational anomalies. That can't just fade into the landscape.

36846   Blurtman   2013 Sep 1, 2:43am  

It's the BUTTAPOCALYPSE!

36847   HydroCabron   2013 Sep 1, 2:54am  

Hippopotta-POW!

36848   Ceffer   2013 Sep 1, 3:40am  

Catapult her into space, and wherever she lands, it will be the Tunguska-Butt Event. The crater will be legendary.

36849   elliemae   2013 Sep 1, 7:45am  

Butt, butt, butt... She paid off a $2,600 tax lien while on the run. Probably pulled the money out of her ass.

36850   Ceffer   2013 Sep 1, 7:46am  

There's gold in them thar hills!

36851   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Sep 1, 9:45am  

Oops, forgot a keypoint - thanks sbh for the sociopath analogy.

Walmart stores began cannibalizing sales from other Walmarts, too.

Wallyword is a dying business. Even with all the preferential local tax treatments (localities often got into bidding wars, making all other businesses pay full tax with old infrastructure, while promising Walmart no property taxes and improved infrastructure for car traffic), the full bore PR campaign, all the CATO and Heritage help, it got too greedy and pissed off the customer.

Increasingly, Wallyworld is getting the bottom rungs of consumers; whereas before they had a much more diverse (and profitable) customer base. With that bottom rung base comes more security problems, as well. Walmart Parking Lots are often huge black spots in otherwise crime free locales.

36852   HydroCabron   2013 Sep 1, 10:25am  

Why did Walmart never sell real estate?

36853   AverageBear   2013 Sep 1, 11:40am  

thunderlips11 says

Wallyword is a dying business.

Really? Their financials say otherwise. Are you also considering their business OUTSIDE the US? This is where they will find very good growth moving forward.

You may not like Walmart as a consumer, or for moral reasons; but you can't deny it as an investment juggernaut....

36854   AverageBear   2013 Sep 1, 11:43am  

thunderlips11 says

When did Walmart begin the downward spiral?

If a company is in a downward spiral, why do they keep raising their dividends? One of the best dividend growth companies, and they are in a downward spiral? What am I missing?

36855   Blurtman   2013 Sep 1, 2:45pm  

It's listed in the MLS.

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