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42804   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2014 Feb 13, 2:48pm  

foreclosures have to to rise 10 times for prices to go back to 2009-2010.

have fun waiting.

42805   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 2:52pm  

bgamall4 says

You can enjoy it knowing that it will end soon and you won't even remember any of the enjoyment?

? Obviously.

bgamall4 says

You can eat, drink and be merry as the end all and be all of life, and that is how the world, the non elect, think.

You think you are the 'elect.' Everyone else thinks you are deranged. Funny that. And yes, I will continue to 'eat, drink and be merry.' I'll also have the love of my family and friends, will continue to enjoy travelling the world, marvelling at all the sights on it and animals that inhabit it, and will carry on doing all the other myriad things that make life so worth living. Why on earth not? It beats what you are doing, consumed by every conspiracy theory you can find.

42806   Bubbabeefcake   2014 Feb 13, 3:00pm  

Mark D says

foreclosures have to to rise 10 times for prices to go back to 2009-2010.

have fun waiting.

It's fun watching R.E. cheerleaders tout damage control...

42808   marco   2014 Feb 13, 7:11pm  

Cheerleaders in mini skirts ....

"It's time to play the music
It's time to light the lights
It's time to meet the muppets
On the the muppet show tonight
It's time to put on makeup
It's time to dress up right
It's time to raise the curtain
On the muppet show tonight"

42809   tatupu70   2014 Feb 13, 8:44pm  

anonymous says

Five Reasons a Scary, Viral Chart Is Misleading—and One Reason It’s Bullish -
By Todd Bliman, 02/13/2014

Exactly--you can't compare the two time periods by looking at point gains/drops. You either have to look at percentage change or inflation adjust it.

42810   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Feb 13, 9:42pm  

Bigsby says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

E-man says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

All RED today except for Gold and Uranium. Just the way I predicted it would be. Get used to this pattern or die!

I just woke up, turned on the TV, and saw all green. Did you make the wrong bet and lose money again?

RED baby. Maybe your TV needs adjustment. It happens on old picture tubes.

You're like our resident oracle. Everything you say.... the opposite comes true.

Good thing I always bet on the opposite. ;)

42811   Facebooksux   2014 Feb 13, 10:47pm  

sbh says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

Dude, I am only 14 years old.

That explains why your gun shoots blanks.

At least try to be funny or antagonizing with your insults. That one's just stupid.

42812   New Renter   2014 Feb 13, 11:21pm  

anonymous says

Five Reasons a Scary, Viral Chart Is Misleading—and One Reason It’s Bullish - By Todd Bliman, 02/13/2014

A sensational chart comparing the movement of the Dow Jones Industrial Average for the period 1928 - 1929 and the period 2012 – Present. Viewers are to believe the same pattern is developing—implying a great crash looms. Frightening! But I’d suggest there is a different, more accurate description: misleading. And for more than just one reason—here are five. What’s more, after you weigh the five reasons I believe this chart’s purported predictiveness is malarkey, I’ll discuss the real takeaway: This whole episode actually seems much more bullish than bearish.

This author's analysis is not without its own flaws.

1) The author is complaining the magnitude scales are not the same. So what. If you listen to the same song at different volumes ITS STILL THE SAME SONG.

2) The start times are arbitrary. Again so what? Does the author expect the data to match perfectly? Again with the music analogy a tribute song may not match the original exactly either but ITS STILL THE SAME SONG.

3) Now the author is complaining the DJIA is a flawed index and that the SP500 is a better gauge.

The author claims the similarity between the 1920s and modern day disappears when looking a the SP500. He may not see the similarities but I do.

ITS STILL THE SAME SONG. Maybe a modern hip hop dance version of an old jazz favorite but its still got the same beat.

4) Past performance isn’t indicative of future results. This I agree with, however I'd also say history does tend to repeat itself, especially when the mistakes of the past have not been learned.

5) The author points out such a comparison can be run with any time period. Again that's like saying you can compare any song to any other song in your collection, they may not sound the same or they might be identical. So what?

The author then claims the serious perception of this chart is a reason the market will remain bullish. Maybe so, not all remixes are true to the original tracks.

That said this one has been shadowing the original since it was first identified back in November:

42813   Bigsby   2014 Feb 14, 1:11am  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

You think you are the 'elect.' Everyone else thinks you are deranged.

The election is done by God, not by a vote of unbelievers. You prove nothing.

And what exactly do you think you've proved? That you are a master of wishful thinking?

And personally, I rather doubt someone who spends his time pissing on the memories of dead children will be up for election to anything.

42814   Bigsby   2014 Feb 14, 1:25am  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

And what exactly do you think you've proved?

I don't have to prove anything to you. That is the beauty of it. You will find out, but you won't want to lose your freedom that way. But there will be nothing you can do about it.

There's no beauty to that. It's purely ignorance and self delusion on your part.

And didn't you admit to adultery on here? You must be very nervous...

42815   Facebooksux   2014 Feb 14, 1:53am  

I wanna hear what our RE shills have to say about this. Especially with the news that Wells is getting back into subprime.

Roberta, I know you're reading this you buffoon. Come back and tell daddy how we "bears" are wrong.

42816   exfatguy   2014 Feb 14, 3:03am  

Well, if there is/was a bunch of shadow inventory, now would probably be as good a time as ever to unload them and grab more.

42817   New Renter   2014 Feb 14, 3:34am  

anonymous says

“I guess WSJ journalists can no longer be bothered to do some simple math before writing an article. The 1920s chart (on the left) shows the index growing from 200 to 375 (+88%) over 18 months. The 2013 chart (on the right) shows the index growing from 12,500 to 16,000 (+28%) over 18 months. Just so Mr. Hulbert is not confused, I will point out that 88% is greater than 28%. The charts appear to be similar only due to the scaling of the vertical axis.”

Stock prices may or may not be overvalued, but this bogus chart tells us nothing. Seriously, why this is worthy of discussion?

The point of discussion isn't the amplitude but the pattern.

42818   tatupu70   2014 Feb 14, 3:48am  

New Renter says

The point of discussion isn't the amplitude but the pattern.

Because both time periods are somewhat noisy lines with a positive slope?

Holy crap. Stop the presses!

42819   rooemoore   2014 Feb 14, 3:50am  

New Renter says

anonymous says

“I guess WSJ journalists can no longer be bothered to do some simple math before writing an article. The 1920s chart (on the left) shows the index growing from 200 to 375 (+88%) over 18 months. The 2013 chart (on the right) shows the index growing from 12,500 to 16,000 (+28%) over 18 months. Just so Mr. Hulbert is not confused, I will point out that 88% is greater than 28%. The charts appear to be similar only due to the scaling of the vertical axis.”

Stock prices may or may not be overvalued, but this bogus chart tells us nothing. Seriously, why this is worthy of discussion?

The point of discussion isn't the amplitude but the pattern.

The point is to get suckers to sell so that investors can buy at a discount.

42820   Homeboy   2014 Feb 14, 4:05am  

tatupu70 says

Exactly--you can't compare the two time periods by looking at point gains/drops. You either have to look at percentage change or inflation adjust it.

You mean percentage as in the percentage of the total DOW value? That makes no sense to me. Even bears wouldn't expect the DOW to crash to zero. Seems to me we should be looking at the dollar amount of the gain/fall, adjusted for inflation. I would say the chart posted by anonymous is nonsense.

42821   tatupu70   2014 Feb 14, 4:43am  

Homeboy says

You mean percentage as in the percentage of the total DOW value? That makes no
sense to me. Even bears wouldn't expect the DOW to crash to zero.

I'm not sure what you are saying. What does going to zero have to do with it?

42822   CDon   2014 Feb 14, 4:54am  

Bubbabear says

Mark D says

foreclosures have to to rise 10 times for prices to go back to 2009-2010.

have fun waiting.

It's fun watching R.E. cheerleaders tout damage control...

Not as much fun as watching you continue to run away from your early 2013 call, as fast as your little legs can carry you:

Bubbabear says

California Housing Prices Falling MoM and QoQ

If you buy a house now in California, you’ll will sustain irrecoverable losses.

42823   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 5:47am  

It's all Obama's fault!!!

42824   turtledove   2014 Feb 14, 6:04am  

The banks are in this to make money. Why wouldn't they wait until they could make more money on a sale to start unloading some foreclosure inventory? They're running a business, not a charity. And clearly our government enabled them to proceed with such a plan. Sucks for the rest of us, but it is the way it is. The banks ain't losing money. If it happens to benefit the current homeowners, well that's just coincidental. If it benefited the banks to hurt the current homeowners, I have no doubt that's the way this would have played out.

42825   bubblesitter   2014 Feb 14, 6:10am  

I am sure these are all flips gone bad!

42826   dublin hillz   2014 Feb 14, 8:19am  

If parents threatened them with homelessness all of a sudden they would "find" 2 minimum wage jobs to pay the rent.

42827   Dan8267   2014 Feb 14, 9:21am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

but you can't stuff your cock into cell phone.

thomaswong.1986 can. He's dick is micro-usb size.

42828   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2014 Feb 14, 9:26am  

I can't live more than 2 minutes without committing a heinous satanically-inspired financial crime.

Fuck you peasants.

42830   Homeboy   2014 Feb 14, 9:50am  

tatupu70 says

I'm not sure what you are saying. What does going to zero have to do with it?

If you had to climb the stairs up 50% of a building, would you rather climb 50% of a one-story building, or 50% of a 100-story building?

42831   indigenous   2014 Feb 14, 9:54am  

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

The main reason is that we are in deflation NOT inflation.

Commoditiy prices are going down which is affecting countries like Australia. Gold is not just money it is a commodity.

Japan, Germany, US, China are all going to or are going through a demographic decline.

42832   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 10:02am  

Call it Crazy says

When asked about the things they couldn't live without, 20 percent said they could not live without sex.

I am part of the 20%

42833   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 10:04am  

Obligatory:

42834   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 10:05am  

Only 14%???

42835   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:06am  

zzyzzx says

Obligatory:

After a steamy round of sexting, put on vibrate, insert, and ask sexting partner to phone you over and over again.

42836   HydroCabron   2014 Feb 14, 10:18am  

The Onion Proposed the Dodge Ream, a car you can fuck.

Why do smart phones lack the proper receptacles and protuberances to fulfill ALL of our needs?

42837   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:45am  

A lot of parents don't seem to mind if their children turn into big, swollen, spoiled parasites.

It seems a lot of parents, after raising them, spend the rest of their lives bribing them to stick around, or following them from place to place.

That's what I call Darwinian narcissism run amok.

42838   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:46am  

El HydroCabron says

The Onion Proposed the Dodge Ream, a car you can fuck.

Why do smart phones lack the proper receptacles and protuberances to fulfill ALL of our needs?

I think AF has a flame thrower that goes 20 feet on his, but its a one-shot.

42839   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:50am  

CrazyMan says

Do you know how many times you can shoot yourself with a nail gun before dying?

He was actually trying to commit suicide with duct tape. It didn't work until he used the nail gun to hold the duct tape in place.

42840   indigenous   2014 Feb 14, 11:12am  

Call it Crazy says

indigenous says

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

Then why has it been going UP for the last month and a half??

Got me, we are definetly in a deflationary period.

42841   Facebooksux   2014 Feb 14, 11:20am  

indigenous says

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

The main reason is that we are in deflation NOT inflation.

Commoditiy prices are going down which is affecting countries like Australia. Gold is not just money it is a commodity.

Japan, Germany, US, China are all going to or are going through a demographic decline.

I would LOVE some deflation.

Who doesn't want a new Porsche 911 for $20,000, or a mansion in New York or Beverly Hills for $100,000?

42842   New Renter   2014 Feb 14, 11:33am  

Homeboy says

tatupu70 says

I'm not sure what you are saying. What does going to zero have to do with it?

If you had to climb the stairs up 50% of a building, would you rather climb 50% of a one-story building, or 50% of a 100-story building?

In the 18 months leading up to the 1929 crash the DJIA jumped from 200 to 375 a change of +88%, then crashing back down to about 200. In the 18 months previous to now the DJIA has climbed from 12500 to 16000, a change of +28% following roughly the same pattern as the DJIA leading up to the 1929 crash. The trend was identified in November and has tracked - roughly - the 1929 pattern from then till now.

IF the DJIA were to follow the trend it would drop to 12500ish, not to zero.

42843   New Renter   2014 Feb 14, 11:45am  

Call it Crazy says

indigenous says

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

Then why has it been going UP for the last month and a half??

Because everyone hates cash.

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