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Hey Bob (aka Cap'n Project-O)... Tell me again, why you think it's OK for Harry Reid and his son to sell American land, or give American land, or allow use of Federal American land to a Chinese firm? Wasn't this land earmarked as 'protected land', to be preserved, or at least put aside for future use for..... Americans?

Why is Harry Reid and son Rory dealing with the Chinese? Why can't Harry deal with an American company? Oh, and then there's the little problem of ethics, where Harry the senator can't be lobbying? What's a babbling schmuck to do? Why, he gets his son to do his dirty work for you (wink-wink, nudge-nudge)... So Bob; call me all the names you want, and project away. I just find it curious that when some local ranchers stood up to Reid, he shrunk back and desisted, knowing he was gonna blow his cover on this shady, unethical 'deal'...
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Can you find fault with Reuters? Because this info isn't from Rush (who I don't listen to), nor Fox (which I don't watch). You don't even know me, so quit projecting like a little beyotch.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831

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(Reuters) - U.S. Senator Harry Reid recognized nine years ago that connections between his official duties and the lobbying activities of his relatives could lead to ethical questions.

In 2003, the Nevada Democrat publicly banned relatives from lobbying him or his staff after newspaper reports showed that Nevada industries and institutions routinely turned to Reid's sons or son-in-law for representation.

Now, questions surrounding family ties are flaring again in Nevada around the Senate majority leader. He and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert.

Reid has been one of the project's most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada. His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.

Craig Holman, a lobbyist for the non-partisan advocacy group Public Citizen, said the senator is dealing with "an iffy ethical landscape" because of the family connections and should recuse himself from the project. "Is this just happening because ... it benefits the Reid family, or did Harry Reid actually believe in this?" Holman said.

The senator has supported numerous clean energy projects in Nevada. Rory Reid cites energy as one of his specialty areas at the law firm.

The two Reids deny discussing the ENN project.

"I have never discussed the project with my father or his staff," said Rory Reid. Kristen Orthman, a spokeswoman for the senator, said he had not discussed the project with his son.

corntrollio says

That's nonsense though -- if they want to benefit from a 6X increase in value, they have to take the good with the bad. Otherwise they are getting a huge windfall simply for doing nothing.

What "huge windfall" are they actually receiving if they don't sell at a massive profit and just live in the home? By all means, tax the shit out of their profit when they sell. But leave them alone when they are just trying to live in the house they bought years ago. There is enough churn in the market, including people who bought a the peak of the bubble to bring in enough high property tax for California.

Besides - California politicians (of all politicians) have more than proven they can't be trusted with that much more revenue during bubble cycles. They are a clown show who refuse to accept basic math and think crazy housing or stock market returns will finance their intemperance.

You sure give a detailed picture of the ethical swampland that the Reid family lurks in.

Any thoughts on the ethics of grazing cattle on land that's not yours for two decades, in defiance of several court rulings, without paying, or is that too complex a matter, full of gray areas and nuance?

bgamall4 says

This is awesome, Bigsby:

No, it's not. It's laughable. I love his initial disclaimer that he's not a life-long conspiracy theorist. No, he's just decided to knock together a ridiculous conspiracy video with all the tired old lines. Yeah, he doesn't have an interest in conspiracies. Sure.

1. What was the point of doing a press conference?

Er, that's proof of a conspiracy? Ha, ha, ha.

2. His eyes weren't bloodshot.

Eh? Yes, they were.

3. How was he able to talk about his child without breaking down?

He was clearly struggling and having difficulty composing himself. It's hardly that unusual that people can manage to hold themselves together for short periods of time, but this idiot thinks it's proof of a conspiracy. Hardly.

And that's basically it. That's his 'proof' with the ubiquitous reference to his nervous smile of course. Do me a fucking favour.

AverageBear says

Hey Bob (aka Cap'n Project-O)... Tell me again, why you think it's OK for Harry Reid and his son to sell American land, or give American land, or allow use of Federal American land to a Chinese firm? Wasn't this land earmarked as 'protected land', to be preserved, or at least put aside for future use for..... Americans?

What happened to reid kicking ranchers off the land to sell to chinese? All over the west including texas (care to document the texas ranchers thrown off their land, I didn't think so). That was your point. Of at least that was what you said. Want to back that up and try again?

What federal land? What "protected land"? Didn't you read your own Reuters article? It says buying from clark county aka las vegas. I guess you didn't bother to look at my link. Not only is it not federal land, it's dry lakebed covered in creosote utterly worthless for ranching or almost anything else. For someone who doesn't watch rush or fox you sure are an expert at their tactics. Ignore facts, keep changing the subject.

Senators are supposed to bring economically lucrative projects to their home states. That what voters send them to washington for. Gee, I wonder if senators from MA have ever lobbied for projects for their state? Say it ain't so joe.

The same way we got Osama Bin Laden?

Create a honeypot by attracting his kidnappers to a Japanese Model with a special razor-filled chamber...

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Nice. But does no one want to skull fuck Kim Jung-un to death?

No. You might end up catching an unknown disease named after him.

The Professor says

bgamall4 says

Bigsby=Stupid.

Bigsby is not stupid, perhaps ignorant or a government agent, but not stupid.

Unless you enjoy dancing with him I suggest you ignore him.

You two paranoid imbeciles deserve each other. Have fun.

I would think it would look a lot like this:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5SDBpW_SP68

I did, but when I'm not logged in your posts are still visible. But don't worry, you'll soon be enjoying posting to yourself or occasionally in an echo chamber with the couple of other conspiracy nuts on here, though you'll probably have to refocus on 9/11 for that as they seem to be less inclined to indulge in your level of crazy. Like I said, have fun.

Cyanide laced hair pomade?

Have him torn limb from limb by massive hirsute lesbians who have been fed a concoction of PCP and anabolic steroids for weeks to work them into a chronic, maniacal, frothing rage.

They can disembowel him with strap ons first.

Hand him to the Fed.

Then, the MHLs can lick the blood streaming from the rending feast out of each others' swollen vulvas and steroid induced enormous clitorises for the televised entertainment of the masses.

Ewwww! I am becoming APOCALYPSerated.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

How about pouring gravy on his gonads and tossing him into a room filled with starving dogs.

Why do you hate dogs? Turn him over to Al Qaeda.

Yeah, a thousand VIEWS, and what, three or four people posting, so it's clearly repeated views by the same people. Most everyone who regularly posts on this forum has you on ignore and doesn't see your threads or posts. I was basically the only person left responding to your befuddled reasoning and laughable assertions, but that is now going to end.
Enjoy the remainder of your life and try and find a better hobby.

Call it Crazy says

BlackRock CEO Laurence Fink said Tuesday that the housing market is “ structurally more unsound ” than prior to the financial crisis due to its reliance on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, according to news reports.

True. We need more loan programs, more lenders and less regulations.

Call it Crazy says

Real-estate investor Sam Zell says he expects the Homeownership rate to drop as low as 55% as more people delay marriages.

More renters. Higher rents just round the corner. Buy now.

You forgot to mention this link that was part of the article. That's alright, I did it for you.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-reasons-the-housing-market-will-be-just-fine-2014-05-22

Call it Crazy says

(Condos may be the last step before moving to the rental apartment)

In high priced areas, condos are the first step before moving into houses.

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

(Condos may be the last step before moving to the rental apartment)

In high priced areas, condos are the first step before moving into houses.

or, the last step before moving to a rental....

You are thinking backwards. Are you still feeling the motions of the ship?

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

(Condos may be the last step before moving to the rental apartment)

In high priced areas, condos are the first step before moving into houses.

Condos are a ripoff. I guess they're ok if someone is lazy don't want to keep up their place, but in a decent condo the HOA fees are greater than the difference in price to a house. Each $100 in HOA is like 25K added to purchase price (minimum, HOAs will go up over 30 years while payments are fixed) and they aren't giving you 100k discount off a SFR. Apartment style condos are considerably cheaper, but then again you can rent something equivalent for significantly less than the payments.

I dunno when I was looking at a place my agent kept trying to push condos but I did the math and it didn't make sense. Likely in SF proper or other high density spots it's different but in the burbs condos suck IMO.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Easier to rent to an ASSHOLE! who is eager to pay your mortgage.

Customers Apocalypse, Customers.

varmint says

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

(Condos may be the last step before moving to the rental apartment)

In high priced areas, condos are the first step before moving into houses.

Condos are a ripoff. I guess they're ok if someone is lazy don't want to keep up their place, but in a decent condo the HOA fees are greater than the difference in price to a house. Each $100 in HOA is like 25K added to purchase price (minimum, HOAs will go up over 30 years while payments are fixed) and they aren't giving you 100k discount off a SFR. Apartment style condos are considerably cheaper, but then again you can rent something equivalent for significantly less than the payments.

That is a common belief, but keep in mind the association covers a lot of maintenance that you would do anyway, like roof repairs, painting and landscaping.

Strategist says

True. We need more loan programs, more lenders and less regulations.

Loan programs depend on who is willing to lend which are the savers and the risk reward. Currently the FED is screwing around with low rates which skews the risk premium. Adding Govt just screws the market even more.

As far as regulations... regulate who ? Banks ... im sure the left like that... but real regulations have not been implementated with regards to the Realtors ...

"1. Affordability is really, seriously good.

The median 2013 first-time home buyer had income of $64,400, according to the National Association of Realtors. With a clean balance sheet, Bankrate.com says that buyer can afford a $259,672 home. The national median house price is $201,700."

One should look at markets and see affordability is screwed in the West. National numbers as such mean little.

Call it Crazy says

Did you read the article??? If someone can't afford to buy a house, they buy a condo. What happens if they can't afford to buy the condo?

Buy a trailer or rent an apartment?

They continue renting.

thomaswong.1986 says

"1. Affordability is really, seriously good.

The median 2013 first-time home buyer had income of $64,400, according to the National Association of Realtors. With a clean balance sheet, Bankrate.com says that buyer can afford a $259,672 home. The national median house price is $201,700."

One should look at markets and see affordability is screwed in the West. National numbers as such mean little.

The West, along with NY has always had a pathetic affordability rate. Prices still keep rising. Compared to historical levels the West has seen a jump in affordability rates.

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Did you read the article??? If someone can't afford to buy a house, they buy a condo. What happens if they can't afford to buy the condo?

Buy a trailer or rent an apartment?

They continue renting.

You're slowing learning.... Finally!!

My wife says I never learn.

Strategist says

More renters. Higher rents just round the corner

Precisely correct. We have over 6 million new renter households since 2007. And considering how both rents and home prices increased, it's going to be very difficult for the renters to save up for downpayment. Regrettably, many of them will end up renters for life.

dublin hillz says

Strategist says

More renters. Higher rents just round the corner

Precisely correct. We have over 6 million new renter households since 2007. And considering how both rents and home prices increased, it's going to be very difficult for the renters to save up for downpayment. Regrettably, many of them will end up renters for life.

Unless they want to make a real sacrifice and rent something small and cheap to save up for an FHA down payment.
But they won't, because almost no one voluntarily steps back into a lower standard of living even if it's for a temporary period.

Strategist says

But they won't, because almost no one voluntarily steps back into a lower
standard of living even if it's for a temporary period.

Exactly, for example going from washer/laundry and central AC/heat in the unit to a place with lack thereof is psychologically very difficult to do and most people would resent it.

dublin hillz says

Strategist says

But they won't, because almost no one voluntarily steps back into a lower

standard of living even if it's for a temporary period.

Exactly, for example going from washer/laundry and central AC/heat in the unit to a place with lack thereof is psychologically very difficult to do and most people would resent it.

Yea, what would their friends the Jones say. How humiliating.

Heh! Same thing happened in 2006-2007 when the only willing buyers left were bottom feeders

Why does APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch hate a good apparatchik trying to help his fellow man?

I can't really justify wasting a bullet on this sub-human while Sam Zell walks on this planet.

Don't flatter yourself Gary. If you keep track of a thread, you'll notice that you can quite easily flick back and forth to it hundreds of times over a period of time. It's obvious that hardly anyone bothers to view your threads simply by looking at the number of people who comment. The number who post on this forum seems to be little more than mid double figures or so. The regulars even less. Thirty-six of those have you on ignore. Look at the number of comments on your blog. There are zero. Nobody (except a couple of your fellow conspiracists) is paying any serious attention to what you are saying. You are a source of amusement from time to time.

Anyway Gary, as you are quite possibly the most paranoid and laughably deluded person I've ever come across, I guess we'll both benefit from giving each other a wider berth in the future.

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, May 22, 2014 __ Level is 104.2

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

Make him watch episodes of MASH while in a cell with a bath salt fed cannibalistic face eating Hannibal Lector.

Stewart was good.

How could there have been runs on the bank?

Glass Steagal would not have made any difference.

AIG was in no danger of going under, they are an insurance co with rock solid assets, a small part of AIG would have gone under but by no means the whole company.

Same with GE, Jeff Imelt would have lost his bonus, so what.

Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley should be gone.

But the main thing that is wrong is that Geitner pulled the same chicken little charade that Paulson pulled.

The thing they should have done was NOTHING. Let the banks go under so what.

The interview only confirms my opinion that gietner is the ultimate weasel. At least paulson was in your face screw you we are doing it anyway, not a boot licking apologist. Stand up be a man and admit you screwed over everyone but the bankers you mealy mouth shifty eyed little schmuck,

. indigenous says

The thing they should have done was NOTHING. Let the banks go under so what.

The thing that should have been done is nationalize the bankrupt banks, sell off the anything of value, and put the bankers in jail.