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The Professor says

Dan8267 says

we do live in the least violent time in all of human history

Then why do the police need body armor and tanks?

It's easier to kill with guns and tanks, then it is to kill with spears and swords.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Them and their fucking accordion music! They taunt us with it!

Hmm: Can an accordion stop a bullet?

Only one way to know for sure!

Is there a constitutional procedure by which 49 states can force a 50th state to secede?

I think he was saying there would be no boots on the ground, just wings in the air.

You have to go to the source.

The most significant discovery was a collection of biographical sketches that listed hometowns and other details for more than 700 fighters brought into Iraq since August 2006.
...
Saudis accounted for the largest number of fighters listed on the records by far — 305, or 41 percent — American intelligence officers found as they combed through documents and computers in the weeks after the raid. The data show that despite increased efforts by Saudi Arabia to clamp down on would-be terrorists since Sept. 11, 2001, when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, some Saudi fighters are still getting through.

A putsch a day keeps the liberals at bay, with the bedside manner of Atilla the Hun.

Oh, and where is ISIS in Iraq getting their weapons and training from?

The US, via their comrades, the Syrian Wahabi Fundamentalist Rebels just over the border. Syrian rebels are taken to Qatar and Turkey, given weaponry and trained. They then return to Syria, then go to Iraq and help out allied organizations there, with their US provided equipment and training.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/foreign-affairs-defense/syria-arming-the-rebels/syrian-rebels-describe-u-s-backed-training-in-qatar/

We also trained all kinds of Iraqis during the Occupation. Many would stay for the training, pocket the enlistment bounty, then not show up for the first day of military duty and instead join their respective Militias - Shi'a, Kurdish --- or Sunni Radical.

It's really hard to try to overthrow one government, and preserve another next door, when your allies in the first case are the same as your enemies in the second, sharing the same ideology.

Being an empire is a bitch.

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

because one additional person has decided to put you on ignore?

That's funny, coming from you, who sits currently in the top 5 of active posters with the most Ignores....

All of which bar the Professor (a badge of honour if ever there was one) came 3 years ago during a flame war with a multi-personality housing bear WUM. You have been placed on ignore 8 times and that is without the people who dislike you most bothering, presumably because they find some pleasure to be gained in ripping apart the shite you post, so you are hardly in a position to crow.

jkaldi1 says

are you really arguing that increasing productivity causes recessions ?

Nope--I'm arguing that wealth disparity causes recessions (or depressions)

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

If Cantor Isn't Extreme Enough for Virginia, What Would Win the Seat?

The answer is obvious. There is only one man who can lead the Tea Party. There is only one man who embodies their ideology and has both skin as fair as midwinter's snow and eyes bluer than robin eggs.

He's a muslim?

Call it Crazy says

Steven Pinker?? OK.... I didn't realize he had a Phd in Criminal Science..

You conservatives would make fewer mistakes if you gave less weight to appeals to authority and more weight to the actual evidence. A degree does not make a person right. Volumes of evidence does.

It is painfully obvious that you are not addressing the actual evidence provided in the Ted Talk. These clearly shows that you have no case to refute the presentation.

It's not like you've wished torturous death upon various segments of society...

HuggyBumbers McLovkins says

Is there a constitutional procedure by which 49 states can force a 50th state to secede?

Is there a sarcastic post Cabronsito can't make?

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

presumably because they find some pleasure to be gained in ripping apart the shite you post,

Here's the difference, at least I post threads for discussion, so far a total of 665, so you would expect to get different points of view from readers, plus over 85% more comments than you...

On the other hand, you've been able to breach the top 5 in Ignores with only ONE started thread...

That has to be a record!!!

You post other people's thoughts without comment, pretend they aren't your views when others rip them apart, or are invariably incapable of rationally supporting the points when you do attempt to support them, and when backed into a corner trot out your usual set of tired insults. You are a boring and predictable troll without a novel thought in your head. A childish troll at that.

And you are proud you have started 665 threads and have made substantially more posts in a shorter period of time than someone who is living in Kuwait and has an inordinate amount of free time on their hands and little to do with it? Congratulations! You must be even sadder than I take you to be, which is saying something.

Small biz owners and bums on welfare are both parts of the problem as far as I am concerned. The ideal situation is where employment is driven by large multinational corps and government sector for the small biz owners don't have economy of scale to pay decent salaries and some "sole proprietors" don't really like paying decent compensation to employees so to count on them to drive well paid society is wishful thinking. At the same time people who think it's OK to simply sit on ass all life and play video games need to be dealt with as well.

will Entitlemented's post be deleted?

Ceffer says

How can I get on the payroll of the New World Order.

You are not f***ed up enough to join that axis.

He is either delusional or a big liar.

jkaldi1 says

if you remove outsourcing , you will quickly see that our productivity is not
increasing.
infact, our labor cost will be one of the highest

Source? Data?

FortWayne says

He is either delusional or a big liar.

Not about this period of human history being the least violent so far. That's just a hard core fact. Just because Obama says something, doesn't make it suddenly turn false. You guys are just blacktracking.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/ezzYJnb5A50

Dan8267 says

Not about this period of human history being the least violent so far. That's just a hard core fact. Just because Obama says something, doesn't make it suddenly turn false. You guys are just blacktracking.

I understand you like Bill Maher, he is a funny man. But this does not apply. I didn't support war during Bush era, and I don't support Obamas doing the same too.

"Then why do the police need body armor and tanks?"

If I was a cop, I'd want body armour and wouldn't understand why anyone would deny me that. Tanks are a bit much. I'd want to be able to get my hands on an assault rifle because everyone else gets them too. What cop wouldn't want to be at least as well equipped as the criminals and general public?

To the original point Brat frequents the Mises org

How cool is that?

Howdy There says

Henry Ford made an interesting observation on paying his employees enough to be able to afford his cars, but it was flawed.

Henry Ford was full of PR bullshit.

He didn't raise wages due to visionary greatness.

He had 300% turnover and it was necessary to stop it.

FortWayne says

But this does not apply. I didn't support war during Bush era, and I don't support Obamas doing the same too.

Then you are the exception. Most republicans have blacktracked on issues as soon as Obama has embraced them. Just look at Maher's examples or Syria. All republicans were gun ho to go to war until Obama suggested the U.S. would intervene. Then all of a sudden, they said war was a terrible idea and we needed a diplomatic solution. Then when Obama got one -- albeit from Biden's goof that the president of Syria could turn over all his chemical weapons -- they objected to diplomatic solutions!

By the way, that Biden goof did more to make the world safe than all of Bush's and Obama's anti-liberty, er, anti-terrorism policies.

Call it Crazy says

Don’t talk to anyone, don’t record anything you might happen to see, but come visit us and we’ll give you a sanitized story with only the photos and accounts we want you to have,

Sounds like every government operation ever. What does this have to do with Obama?

Since Obama's opponents think nothing of making dead soldiers and diplomats into political whipping posts, it makes good sense not to offer more grist to the bullshit mill. Some news channels and politicians should have been cut off completely long ago.

Christians who rely on old testament demonstrate that they don't believe in jesus as lord and savior so how are they different from the jews?

If everyone were to save all their disposable income, they could buy emerging market bond fund and never have to work again but then if everyone did that the yield would get reduced to zirp level. Dammit!

"They have MRAPs???"

I tracked down the original article. The military is giving over outdated equipment to law enforcement. Clearly this is just an environmental program, you know Reuse.

Seriously though, MRAPs themselves are pretty much defensive unlike a tank or AFV. In high risk areas it might be justified, although I'm betting many police forces will get rid of them due to maintenance costs and lack of use. The most likely use for MRAPs by police is during G8 summits and such where there might actually be IEDs.

NVGs seem fair enough. Anyone can get them. I'm assuming the aircraft are just regular stuff, like the light planes that are used for spotting pot fields in rural areas or helicopters to provide overwatch during car chases (no gunships.)

Machine guns (which probably means assault rifles and submachine guns instead of actual machine guns) are another issue. If patrolmen start carrying 'machine guns' as a matter of course, then there is a problem. Having them available, in today's current era of 'less violence than ever in history,' is fair enough.

As an aside, I'm betting no police forces have actual tanks. Tanks have heavy armour, tracked mobility and an offensive anti-armour cannon.

If it makes you feel any better he didn't say stone.
Would strangulation be a more desirable phrase?

I'm curious just what in your limited demented world was the way it was actually phrased that you felt it needed embellishing with "Stoning".

If anyone on in Washington is capable of going all "floor kisser" on us, and stoning someone to death for not sharing their views. Would be the Kenyan Terrorist and his Taliban cohort Nancy "Li-li-li-li-li-li" Pelosi.

Even Bill Maher admits and complains about police being overly militarized.

Remember that child who was injured by a police grenade that stormed completely wrong family?

http://www.gofundme.com/9mih84

CaptainShuddup says

If it makes you feel any better he didn't say stone.

Would strangulation be a more desirable phrase?

I'm curious just what in your limited demented world was the way it was actually phrased that you felt it needed embellishing with "Stoning".

What part of "most awesome Internet troll ever" did you not understand?

FortWayne, hadn't heard of that one. Definitely a tragedy, and the lack of police remorse reported is astounding. They should have been begging forgiveness for their error and offering every bit of support they could. They were probably advised against doing so for legal reasons (whole other thread right there.)

Had they stormed the correct house, the flashbang grenade used as a diversionary device could have saved a police officer's life. This case is evidence that when weapons are used in error there can be devastating effects, but not that the weapons are inappropriate when used properly.

Let's extend this logic. If you take this case as evidence that police should be less militarized because things can go wrong, what does that mean for the general population? Should we consider some form of ban on privately held weapons because they can be misused? Nancy Lanza didn't intend for her firearms to be used the way there were any more than the police intended to cause the harm they did with baby Bou Bou.

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, June 13, 2014 __ Level is 105.6

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

I didn't watch the ted talk during work, but sociologists and epidemioligists cite removal of lead from paint and other products is one of the leading drivers of reduction of crime since the '70s. Pretty interesting to me!

" The global peace index score has deteriorated 5 percent in the last 6 years"

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/pdf/gpi/2013_Global_Peace_Index_Report.pdf

Rin says

Well, in comparison to let's say the 20th century with WWI, the Red-White Russian Civil War (plus Spain), WWII (plus genocide), the Cold War (which includes Korea, Vietnam, etc), and all of the Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot purges, that's already circa ~200M dead persons in a world with half of today's population.

But realize, the century's young, so we still have another 86 years to catch up with the last one.

Well we are just a few short weeks from the 100th anniversary of the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.

That's June 28th, mark your calenders!

Up to that point the 20th century had been relatively calm too. That one assassination triggered WWI, the Red-White Russian Civil War (plus Spain), WWII (plus genocide), the Cold War (which includes Korea, Vietnam, etc), and probably all of the Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot purges

(famous picture from the Munich Odeonplatz taken on August 2 1914 . The photo shows the announcement of Germany's entry into the war to a cheering crowd.)

There's Waldo.

CL says

Does New Renter use the same hallucinogens you do? And where do WE get some? :)

It's all very simple... work for a bunch of a-holes, then see the similarities, academic vs work world, and then, you'll get it.

The work world sucks. The only meaningful world is that of those who only work on their own activities.