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Yep. The leftist, Bernie bro part of the identity, per Coulter's law, couldn't compete with WHITE! MALE! SHOOTER!

The Bernie Supporter is dead.
http://ussanews.com/News1/2017/06/14/breaking-virginia-shooter-identified-here-is-the-first-photo-released/

It's official. War is now the accepted method for settling all disputes.

Another bernie supporter, another shooting. I am not surprised, when I saw the hate and vitriol on the dems the night of the cancelled Trump rally. Lefties are the most savage-ranging from Pol pot to the nazis and the soviet. No logic can reason with them, they are insane. This country is in grave danger if lefty propaganda is not reversed.

NuttBoxer says

It's official. War is now the accepted method for settling all disputes

Yup only if you are a conservative. Lefties have gone mad-the hatred and vitriol is making them rabid.

Leftie twitter explodes in joy-just like ISIS-no wonder they won't say radical terror-they are it.

https://news.grabien.com/story-left-wing-twitter-celebrates-shooting-rep-scalise

Well the conservatives have all three branches of government.
Maybe if they threaten to repeal same sex marriage the libbies will stand down...

lostand confused says

Lefties have gone mad-the hatred and vitriol is making them rabid.

Democrats commit nearly 70% of all gun crime. We don't have a gun problem, we have a Democrat problem.

Ban baseball!

The Left is sick.

They are pushing for the type of conflict that they cannot possibly win.

zzyzzx says

The shooters shitty marksmanship suggests that they aren't a Republican.

Looks like I was right!!!

When reasoning and open dialogue go out the window in favor of shouting, assaulting, and plays/photo shoots that depicts murder, where else did everyone think this would go!?

Mainstream Media publishes millions of stories attacking Trump and the current administration. Leftists make calls for violence against patriots.

Are they actually trying to start a Civil War Part II?

Unfuckingbelievable!

From the department of unintended consequences: In the same way as the Republican party suddenly became a friend of Russia once Democrats started hating Russia, perhaps the Republican party will now act in favor of gun control?

Quigley says

Mainstream Media publishes millions of stories attacking Trump and the current administration. Leftists make calls for violence against patriots.

Are they actually trying to start a Civil War Part II?

Unfuckingbelievable!

Certainly George Soros is pushing for it.

Here is a an observation for the gun lobby and the open-carry supporters: The gunman managed to shoot (and injure) 5 people before two armed and highly trained police (or was it secret service?) officers managed to shoot him down.

Does anyone in their right mind think that open carry really helps? Would regular and often untrained citizens trying to accomplish the same task be a good thing or just increase the carnage, with bullets flying everywhere? Does anyone think that congress members would like to have open carry among the onlookers at their baseball practice? Just something to think about.

justme says

From the department of unintended consequences: In the same way as the Republican party suddenly became a friend of Russia once Democrats started hating Russia, perhaps the Republican party will now act in favor of gun control?

What will likely happen is that the continuing stream of hate from Democrats will lead to big victories in 2018 and 2020. According to a May Gallop poll, Democrats have a 40% favorability rating, whatever made up fantasy they tried to dream up about Russia-Trump has never stuck, and they invested 7+ months of their energy into it. Total fail.

As for gun control, and what I'm about to say is backed by FBI statistics, if you took the right to own and bear arms from Democrats, gun crime would go down by 80%.

justme says

Does anyone in their right mind think that open carry really helps?

Does anyone in their right mind look at Chicago, and think strict gun control helps?

Who commits the most gun violence of the political type in the US, right wing fanatics or left wing fanatics? I think we all know the answer to that. It is sad that the right wingers are falling all over themselves trying to blame left-leaning media and left-leaning fanatics for the Virginia baseball shootings. I did not hear you complain about right-wing media or right-wing fanatics during any of the many instances of right wing gun terror.

And that brings up the bonus question: Was this event terrorism or not? Also, is it terrorism when some white right-wing fanatic commits gun violence? Yes, this question is relevant because the right wing is very adamant about branding certain cases of violence as terrorism, but not so much others.

From hot tears to hot lead, but can't shoot straight. It sucks to be a liberal.

justme says

Who commits the most gun violence of the political type in the US, right wing fanatics or left wing fanatics?

According to all credible crime stat databases (FBI, CDC, etc), Democrats BY FAR (5 to 1 ratio).

BlueSardine says

The left has gone violently insane.

People can score their cheap political points today on Pnet, fine fine.

The real issues are a deeply divided nation and people feeling desperate. Stoking the flames are those who will over generalize and falsely call someone who commits an atrocity, being equivalent and representative of a wider group of people, whom they themselves oppose in some manner (Rs, Ds, Muslims, on and on ...). The belief that violence is a norm held by a majority in mainstream civil groups is extremist thought itself.

There will be more shootings targeting our politicians: from left, right, and other. It is going to grow from here.

Who is going to bring us together? Who is going to be the calm rational person, denouncing violence, asking and seeking political transparency, and uniting all Americans? It sure as hell isn't going to be Trump.

When the right wing attacks come I'm not going to paint all Rs as being inline with that willingness to use violence, because that isn't true at all. I will however gladly and eagerly support the FBI in its continued pursuit and infiltration of domestic extremists groups of all walks in America. The lone wolf isn't something we will ever be able to really safeguard against.

Tim Aurora says

I denounce the shooting. Violence has no place in Politics. From a democrat leaning folk

That's insultingly insufficient. Our society is drowning in a cesspool of advocated division, and you're describing the water?

Goran_K says

justme says

Who commits the most gun violence of the political type in the US, right wing fanatics or left wing fanatics?

According to all credible crime stat databases (FBI, CDC, etc), Democrats BY FAR (5 to 1 ratio).

Really, please show me the database of POLITICAL gun violence (you may include any mass shooting if you like) that has party membership in the database. I bet you can't. You are making this stuff up.

justme says

Really, please show me the database of POLITICAL gun violence (you may include any mass shooting if you like) that has party membership in the database. I bet you can't. You are making this stuff up.

Why does it matter if it's "politically" motivated? Gun violence is somehow different if the motivation is based upon a political ideal? You're trying to move the goal post because you know your point is absolute horse shit.

The simple fact is DEMOCRATS as a whole commit far more gun crimes nationally than any other political alignment. These are facts.

Rew says

Who is going to be the calm rational person, denouncing violence, asking and seeking political transparency, and uniting all Americans? It sure as hell isn't going to be Trump.

Certainly better than "Basket of Deplorables" Hillary.

I didn't vote for Trump, and have never voted for a GOP presidential candidate (voted for Rapist Clinton twice), and it's transparently clear which party is stoking the fires of rebellion and violence.

I didn't say that...

Rew says

BlueSardine says

The left has gone violently insane.

People can score their cheap political points today on Pnet, fine fine

We knew Hillary and her supporters were pissed off, but really....

sagacious1 says

That's insultingly insufficient.

Certainly an attack of self expression on an online internet forum, for whatever insufficiency in their communication you perceive, is far better. Right?

Seriously, your solution here on Pnet is what? Post a cat meme picture?

jvolstad says

We knew Hillary and her supporters were pissed off, but really....

Yes all Hillary supporters have suddenly become amateur riflemen in pant suits.
(though this shooter was a Bernie-bro, I believe)

Goran_K says

it's transparently clear which party is stoking the fires of rebellion and violence.

Ha. The backlash against Trump is caused by the very hate he rode to victory on. You can claim an "I have met the enemy and he is us" moment, but the alt-right is the most divisive thing I've seen in the nation in my lifetime.

I do agree with the "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster." sentiment though.

Goran_K says

The simple fact is DEMOCRATS as a whole commit far more gun crimes nationally than any other political alignment. These are facts.

Gotcha. I knew all along what you were really saying. You wanted to blame gun violence on poor and brown people, who indeed are more likely to vote democrat, although not always. Still no data, of course, but that does not seem important to you. What about poor white people who are right-wing? How is their gun violence rated?

"According to the Washington Post, the shooter’s name is James T. Hodgkinson. He is 66 years old and owns a home inspection business. However, state records show that his license was not renewed."

A home inspector? That means he kisses up to Realtor's.

😕

justme says

Gotcha. I knew all along what you were really saying. You wanted to blame gun violence on poor and brown people, who indeed are more likely to vote democrat, although not always. Still no data, of course, but that does not seem important to you. What about poor white people who are right-wing? How is their gun violence rated?

Of course you KNEW what I was talking about. Blacks and Hispanics are commit 80% of the violent crime in the United States (including gun homicides) with whites and other minorities taking the rest. Seeing as how Blacks vote 90% Democrat, and Hispanics vote over 70% Democrat, it's pretty obvious that Democrat voters are responsible for the majority of gun crimes nationally.

Got a problem with that conclusion bro?

Rew says

Ha. The backlash against Trump is caused by the very hate he rode to victory on. You can claim an "I have met the enemy and he is us" moment, but the alt-right is the most divisive thing I've seen in the nation in my lifetime.

You have to ask yourself why Trump voters had that sentiment in the first place. Perhaps Obama should have paid more attention to poor whites instead of spending 8 years ignoring them or chastising them for their "privilege" fostering his own "wave of hate".

Rew says

I do agree with the "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster." sentiment though.

Yes. Those who spent a lifetime warning about McCarthyism...

"Ha. The backlash against Trump is caused by the very hate he rode to victory on."

Incorrect, Trump rode in upon the votes of citizens. A vote in itself cannot be hateful. Any descriptive attachment to a vote, is simply propaganda in the current environment.

Four UPS employees, including gunman, are dead in San Francisco mass shooting this morning. Location is UPS facility on Potrero Hill, immediately adjacent to I-101 SOUTHbound lanes. Exact location is 17th St and Utah St/SanBrunoAve./p>

justme says

Four UPS employees, including gunman, are dead in San Francisco mass shooting this morning. Location is UPS facility on Potrero Hill, immediately adjacent to I-101 northbound lanes. Exact location is 17th St and Utah St.

Strictest gun control in the nation. Ammo background checks. Prop 63. No gun stores within SF city limits.

Still think gun control works?

jvolstad says

We knew Hillary and her supporters were pissed off, but really....

I was also expecting them to be a Hillary supporter instead of a Bernie supporter as well.

Hodgkinson, the baseball Shooter, was a firm believer in #RussiaHoax conspiracy theory
https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/875023362619310081

Meanwhile, Clinton Crony and Comey Corruptor McAuliffe calls for gun control at crime scene
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-presses-for-gun-control-at-scene-of-congressional-baseball-practice-shooting/article/2625940