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Thoughts while listening to Trump's State of the Union address


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2018 Jan 30, 5:57pm   27,739 views  202 comments

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Just a post for people to comment while it's going on, and after.

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126   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 8:17pm  

anon_24c03 says
Strategist says
Trump does not have the speech giving skills that Clinton and Obama had.


And that's a good thing, we don't need MORE lip service.


Yes, there is a reason why they say "You sell the sizzle, not the steak" Those who just go by the sizzle are the suckers.
127   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 8:28pm  

jvolstad says

I was thinking "Thank God Hillary lost the election." Bill would have been in a back room banging an intern, female or male.


Maybe Hillary ran for President just to get into the oval office, to take revenge on Bill, by having a male intern eat her pussy.
128   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 8:29pm  

FortWayne says
I saw Democratic response. It was just a colossal whining in comparison.


I did not even bother to watch their response. Not worth the time.
129   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 30, 8:32pm  

Strategist says
Maybe Hillary ran for President just to get into the oval office, to take revenge on Bill, by having a male intern eat her pussy.


You mean female intern. She loves big tittie girls, yes indeed hot god all mighty!
130   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 8:33pm  

Tenpoundbass says
To be a fly on the wall in the room where she is right now.


131   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 8:36pm  

FortWayne says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
A small selection of heroes today.

Contrast that with the high-on-the-Maslow-Scale virtue signalers soon to engage in punditry on the news stations.


I saw Democratic response. It was just a colossal whining in comparison. That's what Democratic party has become, a party of whining SJW's.

Trump delivered a truly memorable speech about jobs, something America needs! It's pretty clear the direction we are heading in.


Yep the direction Obama set us in after The Republicans Depression



132   Patrick   2018 Jan 30, 8:36pm  

And the NY Times, true to form, has to find negative things to say about Trump no matter what he does:

Trump Can Sell an Improved Economy, but Not Himself
By PETER BAKER 14 minutes ago

He passed tax cuts, and the economy he inherited continues to grow. But many Americans still hold dismal views of Mr. Trump.


Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?
133   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 8:45pm  

rando says

Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?


1. They forgot to check their 401K statements.
2. They think America is a "shithole" country.
3. Trump succeeds where Obama failed. Denial.
134   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 8:51pm  

rando says
And the NY Times, true to form, has to find negative things to say about Trump no matter what he does:

Trump Can Sell an Improved Economy, but Not Himself
By PETER BAKER 14 minutes ago

He passed tax cuts, and the economy he inherited continues to grow. But many Americans still hold dismal views of Mr. Trump.


Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?


Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6
135   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 8:54pm  

HEYYOU says

Lying,5 time draft dodging coward, admitted sexual harasser,Racist/Nazi sympathizer,pedophile advocate,Republican,Adulterer (as in :Your are going to get fucked over)?


How?
136   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 8:58pm  

errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.
137   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 9:00pm  

Strategist says
rando says

Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?


1. They forgot to check their 401K statements.
2. They think America is a "shithole" country.
3. Trump succeeds where Obama failed. Denial.


Where did Obama fail, but Trump succeeded?

Everything Trumpcucks are touting as success is merely a continuation of Obamas success

I wish people would stop repeating the propaganda so i can stop defending Obama with the simplest of truths. Reality shouldn’t clash with your view of the world so violently. I don’t even like Obama, I just have a nagging duty to protect the truth. Like Patrick always said, it is important to tell the truth. He also said to question those on the opposite side of the truth, what are you afraid of? The fear of proving that your hate for Obama was always only about his skin color
138   FortWayne   2018 Jan 30, 9:07pm  

Strategist says
FortWayne says
I saw Democratic response. It was just a colossal whining in comparison.


I did not even bother to watch their response. Not worth the time.


You made a right choice. I didn't switch the channel off, so it came on. It was a waste of time.
139   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 9:08pm  

errc says
Where did Obama fail, but Trump succeeded?

Everything Trumpcucks are touting as success is merely a continuation of Obamas success


1. Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.
2. ISIS. Obama was a miserable failure here. Even the Russians did better.
3. North Korea. Obama did nothing. He could not even stop the Chinese from supporting them.
140   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 9:20pm  

Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.

By what metric?

ISIS. Obama was a miserable failure here. Even the Russians did better.

By what metric?

North Korea. Obama did nothing. He could not even stop the Chinese from supporting them.

By what metric?
141   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 9:25pm  

Strategist says
errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants crediting Trump with Obamas economy.

What are you seeing
142   MrMagic   2018 Jan 30, 9:29pm  

errc says


Why did ya cut that chart off at 2015??

errc says
I wish people would stop repeating the propaganda so i can stop defending Obama with the simplest of truths. Reality shouldn’t clash with your view of the world so violently.


If truth and reality is so important, how about overlaying what REALLY made that market rise under Obama:



Without multiple rounds of QE injected, that market would have flatlined. Obama had NOTHING to do with the rise.

Proof, here is the DOW chart for Obama's last two years, after QE was shut off:



This is Obama's recovery WITHOUT help from the FED, was that so wonderful?

errc says
I just have a nagging duty to protect the truth.


This is how the truth is reported, with facts.

errc says
Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.

By what metric?


If you're comparing markets, by this:



That's called a recovery.

errc says
Obama was a miserable failure here.


Yep, we're glad that is finally cleared up!
143   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 9:32pm  

errc says
Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.

By what metric?

GDP. It was stagnant under Obama. Starting to move up under Trump.

errc says
ISIS. Obama was a miserable failure here. Even the Russians did better.

By what metric?

Rise and fall. ISIS rose under Obama. Pretty much destroyed under Trump.

errc says
North Korea. Obama did nothing. He could not even stop the Chinese from supporting them.

By what metric?

China.
China kept the North Koreans alive under Obama. They cut off the life line to NK under Trump.
144   MrMagic   2018 Jan 30, 9:33pm  

Sniper says


Not to mention, the Trump market just for this January is up almost 1500 points, where it barely grew 700 points the whole last two years of Obama.

That's called a recovery.
145   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 9:43pm  

errc says
Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Look at your own chart again. Where was the S&P when Obama became President? You are not being honest by calculating the gains from the lows during Obama's term.

errc says
Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants crediting Trump with Obamas economy.

What are you seeing

I'm seeing a chart posted by you that does not even show the last 3 years, least of all the huge jump in stocks since Trump was elected. Why so dishonest?
If you have to be dishonest, it tells me you know perfectly well of Obamas failures, yet refuse to acknowledge them.
Shame on you.
146   anonymous   2018 Jan 30, 9:50pm  

Sniper says
errc says


Why did ya cut that chart off at 2015??

errc says
I wish people would stop repeating the propaganda so i can stop defending Obama with the simplest of truths. Reality shouldn’t clash with your view of the world so violently.


If truth and reality is so important, how about overlaying what REALLY made that market rise under Obama:



Without multiple rounds of QE injected, that market would have flatlined. Obama had NOTHING to do with the rise.

Proof, here is the DOW chart for Obama's last two years, after QE was shut off:

...


Thanks for proving my point. Draw a line on your chart from jan 20th 09 to jan 20th 17, obamas presidency. The trend is in tact. Looks like it got ahead of itself a little bit mid 15- mid 16, consolidated, and then resumed the trend mid 2016, long before Trump took office. So you agree with me, I’m correct.
147   Strategist   2018 Jan 30, 10:09pm  

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Look at your own chart again. Where was the S&P when Obama became President? You are not being honest by calculating the gains from the lows during Obama's term.

errc says
Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants crediting Trump with Obamas economy.

What are you seeing

I'm seeing a chart posted by you that does not ev...


So you show a chart until June 2015, from which you claim Trump did an inferior job compared to Obama, even though Trump became President in 2017.
ROFL. Based on your chart, Trump may not have even been born.
Gosh Errc, if you want to be deceptive, please show something that is not so easy to piss on.
148   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2018 Jan 31, 3:36am  

Obama stretched the facts in his final SOTU on jobs, deficits, health care, military spending and carbon emissions.

Summary
President Barack Obama’s final State of the Union address came up short of the facts on several topics:

He embellished his record on jobs, citing “more than 14 million new jobs,” without mentioning that’s only private sector jobs and only since the job losses hit bottom in February 2010.

Obama similarly omitted part of his presidency in boasting of nearly 900,000 manufacturing jobs “in the past six years.” Over his entire time in office, manufacturing jobs have gone down by 230,000.

And he said he had cut the country’s deficits by “almost three-quarters.” But that’s measured from fiscal 2009, which included some increased spending by Obama.

He repeated his now years-long claim of crediting the Affordable Care Act for a slowdown in health care spending, which economists have linked mainly to the economy. In fact, the growth rate jumped in 2014, when the law’s coverage provisions were implemented.

Obama claimed, like he did in 2014, that the U.S. has “cut carbon pollution more than any other country on Earth.” That’s true in terms of total tonnage but not in terms of percentage reductions.

He said that the U.S. spends “more on our military than the next eight nations combined.” That’s close enough in terms of dollars, but as a share of the nation’s economy, the U.S. is only the fourth highest of the top 15 countries.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/factchecking-the-state-of-the-union/
149   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 31, 4:33am  

Patrick says
If someone gets shot, and the response is "He’s a Piece of Shit", that sounds very much like a justification for the shooting.

How long does one have to wait after someone gets shot before they can call the poor bastard a piece of shit? I mean, can Scalise skate through the rest of his life without fear of criticism? You seem hyper defensive, here.
150   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 31, 4:42am  

The economy hasn't changed much since Trump took over. It's basically continued Obama growth. The reason that Trump doesn't get democrats applauding low unemployment (even among the blacks), is because the long ass trend in lowering unemployment has been ongoing for 8 yrs. Trump is just trying to take credit for Obama's success, and everybody left of the aisle knows it.

The stock market has raged due to optimism over getting a tax cut, which makes stocks more valuable. It's likely due for a bit of a correction.

Trump gets props for not breaking shit yet. I'm actually quite impressed by that.
152   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2018 Jan 31, 5:08am  

The crowd roars their approval! Hail Ceasar! Let the gladiator games begin!

153   CBOEtrader   2018 Jan 31, 5:18am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
It's basically continued Obama growth.


The market has shown a complete change in environment from the Obama admin. Trumps exec orders and leadership are the difference.

Only the most brainwashed partisans left of the isle give credit to Obama for this.
154   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 31, 5:25am  

CBOEtrader says
Only the most brainwashed partisans left of the isle give credit to Obama for this.


NPR last week was on this...
"So who owns the economy when a President takes office?"
Kick.

They swore up and down that Obama inherited the bad part of his economy, but credited him for every green shoot that happened in spite of his policies to stop them.

Trump is performing as expected. I said all through Obama's administration that Presidents own the economy the minute they take office.
Obama spent his first 6 years blaming Bush for everything. He stopped bashing him the last two, because he needed to play nice with Bush to save his legacy.
So they paraded him around like he was a great President that still endorses the Obama house.

When Trump ran I swore up and down, I would blame Trump for every peak and valley and not Obama or Bush.
155   anonymous   2018 Jan 31, 6:51am  

Strategist says
Rise and fall. ISIS rose under Obama. Pretty much destroyed under Trump.

Do you want to take a stab at explaining the policy changes that brought that about?
156   anonymous   2018 Jan 31, 6:51am  

Booger says


Among speech watchers!
157   BayArea   2018 Jan 31, 6:55am  

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants credi...


Honest? Looks to me like a disingenuous reference point.
158   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 31, 7:41am  

CBOEtrader says
The market has shown a complete change in environment from the Obama admin.

Are you referring to the stock market? If you read my comment, you will see that I stated that the stock market has raged, and gave a reason for that. Are you saying that you do not differentiate between the stock market and the economy (GDP/jobs/etc.)?
161   MrMagic   2018 Jan 31, 8:00am  

anon_58b0b says
Among speech watchers!


Wait, the homeless in SF, living on the streets, weren't allowed to vote in that poll?

So sad.
164   zzyzzx   2018 Jan 31, 8:07am  

Democratic platform has been reduced to hating Trump and pandering to illegal aliens.PATHETIC!

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