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Anecdotal evidence is worthless.
Good one! So is your race-based hypothesis. Take two kids, one Caucasian and one African American, and make one rich and the other poor. The rich kids nearly always outperform the poor.
Your eugenics argument was used by many, including the Nazis and has debunked over and over again by science.
It's proven that poor whites and Asians outperform rich blacks in intelligence tests.
I agree than a good intelligence test score is not a guarantee of good life performance though.
No one is saying all of those that are predominately sub saharan African are unintelligent. Just the vast majority of them.
My wife is from Europe. The greatest percentage of immigrants gaining entrance into med school where she lived were from...sub Saharan Africa.
You take people from one background, put them in a certain environment, and they excel, while others in the opposite fail.
Didn't you ever see Trading Places?
Europe, huh? That's like talking about North America in some general way: worthless.
tatupu70
2013 Oct 12, 2:58am
I am not speaking of QE capital.
Huh? There is no distinction between "QE" capital and non-"QE" capital. That makes no sense.
But as I said previously capital does promote job grow but the problem is it's not promoting the right economic growth. What we have now is a promotion of asset inflation, thanks to once again QE and low interest rates.
Again--that makes no sense. With low interest rates, capital should flow toward productive opportunities and fund new businesses. The fact that it isn't happening proves that those opportunities don't exist. And that's because consumers have no money, and therefore no demand.
And yes Unions affect prices because they rise cost among workers who have not increased any value to businesses or organization
The market sets prices. Cost is independent of price.
But in reality it's the market that sets the price as employees and employees negotiate salaries, benefits, and what not. Not the damn unions who will literally hold a company or organization hostage if they don't get their way.
So, negotiating wages is OK as long as the company has the upper hand?? When employees band together to try to even the playing field, that's holding an organization "hostage"?? Givem me a break.
But even when they arrived during the progressive era economic growth was still strong but the difference then was the central bank was created in 1913 and after that things just began going down hill as purchasing power became less and less as the years and decades went by.
Real wages increased steadily until the Reagan--when labor took a back seat to capital and the supply side BS began.spydah_hh says
You have the idea that money needs to go to labor, job growth and etc but you have it all wrong. The real culprit is the central bank, government, and the demanding of unions who will shutdown operations if they don't get their way.
The biggest issues are wealth disparity and the trade imbalance. Fix those and things would look up pretty quickly. Blaming unions is a ridiculous assertion brought to you by the Koch Bros. (among others). Strong unions are exactly what we need right now.
People say Jewish and Asian people are very smart and have high IQs. That's BS. I can show you slackers in both groups that dispel this notion.
Each group places a high amount of emphasis on education and working hard. It's culturally ingrained, which is environmental, not genetic.
Dan8267
2013 Oct 12, 3:01am
Ironically, foxmannumber1 illustrates why so many red-state people want to secede. It's been over 150 years since the Civil War and the slave states are still obsessed with race. One and a half centuries and America is still divided along the same damn lines.
Same damn map.
You can show more anecdotal evidence while ignoring the other 99.9% of the population.
Ironically, foxmannumber1 illustrates why so many red-state people want to secede. It's been over 150 years since the Civil War and the slave states are still obsessed with race. One and a half centuries and America is still divided along the same damn lines.
All those southern red states are 30-40% black as well, who vote democrat 99% of the time.
It's as if Whites living around blacks makes the Whites conservative.
Europe, huh? That's like talking about North America in some general way: worthless.
No, it isn't at all. Europe is much better equipped to offer educational opportunities to the poor than the US. I had this discussion last night at the bar with my friends from Spain.
When you get nearly a free education at universities in Spain vs paying $100K over 4 years here, that comparison isn't worthless. It is environmental.
As a percentage, the average immigrant has a much higher percentage likelihood of getting a college degree in Spain or Germany than the US.
You can show more anecdotal evidence while ignoring the other 99.9% of the population.
My anecdotal evidence is better than any legitimate study that you can offer (which you can't because you would be laughed off stage at an academic conference).
The average immigrant does not go to college at all. More anecdotal evidence. Those immigrants who do go to college drop out at a rate higher than the White native.
A current citizen, not the immigrant, is paying for that education attempt. It is not free.
Money in education causes the potential student to be discriminated against due to their intelligence. They will only get the education if they show merit, making it financially worthwhile to even attempt.
My anecdotal evidence is better than any legitimate study that you can offer (which you can't because you would be laughed off stage at an academic conference).
http://www.youtube.com/embed/GA0XLxG2o2E
Rushton stood proud and delivered his well researched facts. Suzuki used emotion and produced no logical argument.
All you need to know about that "professor" is in this article:
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/06/leading_race_scientist_dies_in_canada/
Intelligence and genital size are inversely correlated.
Brilliant!
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2013 Oct 12, 6:06am
The average immigrant does not go to college at all. More anecdotal evidence. Those immigrants who do go to college drop out at a rate higher than the White native.
A current citizen, not the immigrant, is paying for that education attempt. It is not free.
Money in education causes the potential student to be discriminated against due to their intelligence. They will only get the education if they show merit, making it financially worthwhile to even attempt.
California State University is about $5500 per year plus books and parking. JC is less. A person who is disciplined can graduate with 4 year degree in a major that allows them to be easily employed and student loans that amount to less than a car payment.
The argument that college is free in European countries is disingenous, irrelevant, and a non starter.
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 8:47am
My anecdotal evidence is better than any legitimate study that you can offer (which you can't because you would be laughed off stage at an academic conference).
Rushton stood proud and delivered his well researched facts. Suzuki used emotion and produced no logical argument.
Rushton is 99.99% correct and he's not the only one who has published his research on this subject.
the 0.01% is his theory on the root cause of the differences in IQ. it's not the cold weather. Africa is a much tougher environment to live compared to Asia and Europe (namely the lack of water, fertile land and disease free areas) that it makes the cold weather a minor issue.
btw, Suzuki only said that to look good and to promote his status among academic communities. deep down he knows what the truth is. same with other black defenders in this thread.
John Bailo
2013 Oct 12, 8:53am
IQ is a really dumb way to evaluate people.
The reason is I make this conclusion is that I've dabbled in Artificial Intelligence "science" for a while, sometimes in industry.
Initially when Man tried to build artificial intelligence he failed miserably. Part of this was the computers of the time, but the other part was the approach.
The pioneers (McCarthy, Minsky) thought of intelligence as classical first order logic. A brain that takes in inputs, makes judgments using if-then rules and spits out an answer. The other area was language. It was thought if we figured out the rules of grammar (Chomsky) and had a robust enough programming language, getting a computer to understand language would be a piece of cake.
50 years later we are still working on these problems. However, since then we've completely changed our approaches. For one, we no longer use the "singular mind". We realized that the brain and society use lots of "dumb" units to problem solve, much of it through trail-and-error rather than some singular genius figuring it out. In Watson for example, multiple and varied search strategies compete to find an answer and use a kind of natural selection to pick the best. We now have NPUs -- neural processing units that compare to the millions of perceptual cells that go into the processes like vision, which is as far from first order logic as you can imagine.
One scientist, Dennis Bray, wrote a fascinating book, Wetware which describes the intricacies of protein actions within a cell. So complicated are these, he writes, that they exceed the complexity of computations and our abilities to mimic or model them!
All of this is to say that any human, simply alive, even one with Down Syndrome, who is able to walk, see a bird in the sky, or communicate...is doing things that are beyond the capabilities still of the fastest most power artificial intelligence systems. Just walking and avoiding a puddle is fantastically complex. And even if we were to mimic some of these processes...as someone once said, the human brain weighs a few pounds and has 1000x time processing powers of a best computer, and all it takes to run it is a tuna fish sandwich!
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 8:54am
People say Jewish and Asian people are very smart and have high IQs. That's BS. I can show you slackers in both groups that dispel this notion.
Each group places a high amount of emphasis on education and working hard. It's culturally ingrained, which is environmental, not genetic.
pointing out the exceptions do not make the rules invalid.
also, if blacks possess the same level of intelligence as the rest of the world then they must be the laziest group. so which is it? lazy or stupid? you will need to pick one. and if it's lazy, why should they get hired?
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 8:55am
IQ is a really dumb way to evaluate people.
people do that everyday.
everyone wants to live in white middle class neighborhood (where intelligent people live). nobody wants to live in the ghettos.
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 8:58am
to black defenders in this thread: i CHALLENGE you to move out of your white neighborhood.
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 9:09am
people do that everyday.
Based on this reply, you've just positioned yourself squarely on the low end of any scale of reading comprehension.
I suggest remedial education before ever posting any of your drivel again.
not my fault you are too dumb to comprehend what i wrote.
Shaman
2013 Oct 12, 9:16am
Bailo that is the best post you've ever done! Yes, the human mind and life itself is fantastically complicated, horrendously intricate, and irreducibly complex. Life is the most sophisticated sort of nano machinery, stuff we wouldn't be ready to build for thousands of years. If there's a single force in the universe that could beat back the tide of entropy it is life.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2013 Oct 12, 9:39am
LOL @ dislike for me pointing out that tuition at JC for 2 years + 2 years at CSU is less than $15K, all of which can be borrowed and in sum total is less than the cost of a car loan.
People like spydah want us to return to the bad old days of 1890-1910 when work days were 12-14 hours, pay was so small that both parents and their children had to work to keep the family fed, conditions were absolutely squalid, and the rich robber barons ran the country with an iron fist.
why would that be any different from what we had even in places like Silicon valley over several decades.. how many back in the days of 80s and 90s during the boom people were in fact working 12-14 days 6 and sometimes 7 days a week over some endless projects or young company ?
I can certainly say working over the past 3 decades in SV working 8 hours 5 days is rather unheard of. Its a real sacrifice over your personal life. that is why tech and SV is not for everyone..
GRE's 99% verbal, 97% analytical, 75% math subject, enough to win a national science foundation graduate fellowship to UC Berkeley.
sad.. and all you have to show is being a landlord. UCB.. please i known with only a HS diploma achieving better.. what a waste of money Roberto spent.
Real wages increased steadily until the Reagan--when labor took a back seat to capital and the supply side BS began.spydah_hh says
Had it been Reagan or Carter being re-elected made no difference.. our industries as well as other nations be they in Europe, Latin America and Asia were being challenged and dominated by the Japanese economy. They became the fastest growing no 2 economy ... be it raw materials, auto, shipping/transport, tech, electronics, banking/finance. Japan had a impact which Unions were unable and to this day... unwilling to deal with.
tatupu70
2013 Oct 12, 12:01pm
why would that be any different from what we had even in places like Silicon valley over several decades.. how many back in the days of 80s and 90s during the boom people were in fact working 12-14 days 6 and sometimes 7 days a week over some endless projects or young company ?
I can certainly say working over the past 3 decades in SV working 8 hours 5 days is rather unheard of. Its a real sacrifice over your personal life. that is why tech and SV is not for everyone..
For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.
and my college was 100% paid for by the national science foundation, even my living expenses
I paid my own way.. 100% no loans no handouts not ... I got a job and worked for it.
seems the National Science Foundation really wasted money over you creating another landlord.
For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.
who is talking about a start up ? .. im talking about a very mature company.. you will find in many business through out our nations be it the local small business its the same .. long hours.. your own business is your life.. it might be a small pet store, a convenience store , what ever what you call yours.
1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..
Bigsby
2013 Oct 12, 12:59pm
and my college was 100% paid for by the national science foundation, even my living expenses
I paid my own way.. 100% no loans no handouts not ... I got a job and worked for it.
seems the National Science Foundation really wasted money over you creating another landlord.
It sounds like he could have easily got plenty of well paying jobs with his qualifications but he chose to go into education. I'd say that deserves praise rather than your belittling remarks.
Bigsby
2013 Oct 12, 1:00pm
For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.
who is talking about a start up ? .. im talking about a very mature company.. you will find in many business through out our nations be it the local small business its the same .. long hours.. your own business is your life.. it might be a small pet store, a convenience store , what ever what you call yours.
1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..
Indeed! Child labour and slavery should be reintroduced immediately.
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 1:14pm
mark D, you are a racist asshole, and not very smart based on your writings here.
then explain why people pay me more than they pay you?
before you brag about your 30K crapy houses in the middle of nowhere, one of mine = 10 of yours.
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 1:30pm
mark D, you are a racist asshole, and not very smart based on your writings here.
then explain why people pay me more than they pay you?
before you brag about your 30K crapy houses in the middle of nowhere, one of mine = 10 of yours.
Sure they do... Sure they do... keep telling yourself that!
How stupid of an asshole do you have to be, to think that proves your point?
You are a worthless fuck. you are a blight on the world, now go meet up with bap33 and blow each other. that is all you are good for!
then why did you have to become a slumlord fixing tenants toilets to supplement your income? don't give me that "i'm an investor" crap. your houses are 30K each. what a joke.
RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks
2013 Oct 12, 1:32pm
To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....
may be they need some brownies to fill the quotas.
Bigsby
2013 Oct 12, 1:57pm
Yeah, I really think he deserves praise for his "qualifications" for these type of "adult" remarks...
I said his decision to go into education was deserving of praise not what you just stated.
To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....
Given the sort of posts being made in this thread and others, it's not Roberto's posts that make me shake my head at the sorry state of some of humanity.
Bigsby
2013 Oct 12, 2:04pm
then why did you have to become a slumlord fixing tenants toilets to supplement your income? don't give me that "i'm an investor" crap. your houses are 30K each. what a joke.
What is your problem? Are you saying he made bad investment decisions? That he was wrong to invest his money (and well by the sounds of it) as he saw fit? Is your job so much more worthy than his job as an educator as you seem so willing to belittle what he does?
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