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People say Jewish and Asian people are very smart and have high IQs. That's BS. I can show you slackers in both groups that dispel this notion.

Each group places a high amount of emphasis on education and working hard. It's culturally ingrained, which is environmental, not genetic.

Ironically, foxmannumber1 illustrates why so many red-state people want to secede. It's been over 150 years since the Civil War and the slave states are still obsessed with race. One and a half centuries and America is still divided along the same damn lines.

Same damn map.

You can show more anecdotal evidence while ignoring the other 99.9% of the population.

Dan8267 says

Ironically, foxmannumber1 illustrates why so many red-state people want to secede. It's been over 150 years since the Civil War and the slave states are still obsessed with race. One and a half centuries and America is still divided along the same damn lines.

All those southern red states are 30-40% black as well, who vote democrat 99% of the time.
It's as if Whites living around blacks makes the Whites conservative.

foxmannumber1 says

Europe, huh? That's like talking about North America in some general way: worthless.

No, it isn't at all. Europe is much better equipped to offer educational opportunities to the poor than the US. I had this discussion last night at the bar with my friends from Spain.

When you get nearly a free education at universities in Spain vs paying $100K over 4 years here, that comparison isn't worthless. It is environmental.

As a percentage, the average immigrant has a much higher percentage likelihood of getting a college degree in Spain or Germany than the US.

Dan8267 says

Who generated the electoral map? Rootvg?

foxmannumber1 says

You can show more anecdotal evidence while ignoring the other 99.9% of the population.

My anecdotal evidence is better than any legitimate study that you can offer (which you can't because you would be laughed off stage at an academic conference).

Obligatory:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/VYy77IGsBFc

The average immigrant does not go to college at all. More anecdotal evidence. Those immigrants who do go to college drop out at a rate higher than the White native.

A current citizen, not the immigrant, is paying for that education attempt. It is not free.

Money in education causes the potential student to be discriminated against due to their intelligence. They will only get the education if they show merit, making it financially worthwhile to even attempt.

Waitingtobuy says

My anecdotal evidence is better than any legitimate study that you can offer (which you can't because you would be laughed off stage at an academic conference).

http://www.youtube.com/embed/GA0XLxG2o2E

Rushton stood proud and delivered his well researched facts. Suzuki used emotion and produced no logical argument.

All you need to know about that "professor" is in this article:
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/06/leading_race_scientist_dies_in_canada/

Intelligence and genital size are inversely correlated.

Brilliant!

foxmannumber1 says

The average immigrant does not go to college at all. More anecdotal evidence. Those immigrants who do go to college drop out at a rate higher than the White native.

A current citizen, not the immigrant, is paying for that education attempt. It is not free.

Money in education causes the potential student to be discriminated against due to their intelligence. They will only get the education if they show merit, making it financially worthwhile to even attempt.

California State University is about $5500 per year plus books and parking. JC is less. A person who is disciplined can graduate with 4 year degree in a major that allows them to be easily employed and student loans that amount to less than a car payment.

The argument that college is free in European countries is disingenous, irrelevant, and a non starter.

foxmannumber1 says

Waitingtobuy says

My anecdotal evidence is better than any legitimate study that you can offer (which you can't because you would be laughed off stage at an academic conference).

Rushton stood proud and delivered his well researched facts. Suzuki used emotion and produced no logical argument.

Rushton is 99.99% correct and he's not the only one who has published his research on this subject.

the 0.01% is his theory on the root cause of the differences in IQ. it's not the cold weather. Africa is a much tougher environment to live compared to Asia and Europe (namely the lack of water, fertile land and disease free areas) that it makes the cold weather a minor issue.

btw, Suzuki only said that to look good and to promote his status among academic communities. deep down he knows what the truth is. same with other black defenders in this thread.

IQ is a really dumb way to evaluate people.

The reason is I make this conclusion is that I've dabbled in Artificial Intelligence "science" for a while, sometimes in industry.

Initially when Man tried to build artificial intelligence he failed miserably. Part of this was the computers of the time, but the other part was the approach.

The pioneers (McCarthy, Minsky) thought of intelligence as classical first order logic. A brain that takes in inputs, makes judgments using if-then rules and spits out an answer. The other area was language. It was thought if we figured out the rules of grammar (Chomsky) and had a robust enough programming language, getting a computer to understand language would be a piece of cake.

50 years later we are still working on these problems. However, since then we've completely changed our approaches. For one, we no longer use the "singular mind". We realized that the brain and society use lots of "dumb" units to problem solve, much of it through trail-and-error rather than some singular genius figuring it out. In Watson for example, multiple and varied search strategies compete to find an answer and use a kind of natural selection to pick the best. We now have NPUs -- neural processing units that compare to the millions of perceptual cells that go into the processes like vision, which is as far from first order logic as you can imagine.

One scientist, Dennis Bray, wrote a fascinating book, Wetware which describes the intricacies of protein actions within a cell. So complicated are these, he writes, that they exceed the complexity of computations and our abilities to mimic or model them!

All of this is to say that any human, simply alive, even one with Down Syndrome, who is able to walk, see a bird in the sky, or communicate...is doing things that are beyond the capabilities still of the fastest most power artificial intelligence systems. Just walking and avoiding a puddle is fantastically complex. And even if we were to mimic some of these processes...as someone once said, the human brain weighs a few pounds and has 1000x time processing powers of a best computer, and all it takes to run it is a tuna fish sandwich!

Waitingtobuy says

People say Jewish and Asian people are very smart and have high IQs. That's BS. I can show you slackers in both groups that dispel this notion.

Each group places a high amount of emphasis on education and working hard. It's culturally ingrained, which is environmental, not genetic.

pointing out the exceptions do not make the rules invalid.

also, if blacks possess the same level of intelligence as the rest of the world then they must be the laziest group. so which is it? lazy or stupid? you will need to pick one. and if it's lazy, why should they get hired?

John Bailo says

IQ is a really dumb way to evaluate people.

people do that everyday.

everyone wants to live in white middle class neighborhood (where intelligent people live). nobody wants to live in the ghettos.

to black defenders in this thread: i CHALLENGE you to move out of your white neighborhood.

John Bailo says

Mark D says

people do that everyday.

Based on this reply, you've just positioned yourself squarely on the low end of any scale of reading comprehension.

I suggest remedial education before ever posting any of your drivel again.

not my fault you are too dumb to comprehend what i wrote.

Bailo that is the best post you've ever done! Yes, the human mind and life itself is fantastically complicated, horrendously intricate, and irreducibly complex. Life is the most sophisticated sort of nano machinery, stuff we wouldn't be ready to build for thousands of years. If there's a single force in the universe that could beat back the tide of entropy it is life.

LOL @ dislike for me pointing out that tuition at JC for 2 years + 2 years at CSU is less than $15K, all of which can be borrowed and in sum total is less than the cost of a car loan.

egads101 says

The oracle is not white

That's what George Zimmerman said!

Quigley says

People like spydah want us to return to the bad old days of 1890-1910 when work days were 12-14 hours, pay was so small that both parents and their children had to work to keep the family fed, conditions were absolutely squalid, and the rich robber barons ran the country with an iron fist.

why would that be any different from what we had even in places like Silicon valley over several decades.. how many back in the days of 80s and 90s during the boom people were in fact working 12-14 days 6 and sometimes 7 days a week over some endless projects or young company ?

I can certainly say working over the past 3 decades in SV working 8 hours 5 days is rather unheard of. Its a real sacrifice over your personal life. that is why tech and SV is not for everyone..

egads101 says

GRE's 99% verbal, 97% analytical, 75% math subject, enough to win a national science foundation graduate fellowship to UC Berkeley.

sad.. and all you have to show is being a landlord. UCB.. please i known with only a HS diploma achieving better.. what a waste of money Roberto spent.

tatupu70 says

Real wages increased steadily until the Reagan--when labor took a back seat to capital and the supply side BS began.spydah_hh says

Had it been Reagan or Carter being re-elected made no difference.. our industries as well as other nations be they in Europe, Latin America and Asia were being challenged and dominated by the Japanese economy. They became the fastest growing no 2 economy ... be it raw materials, auto, shipping/transport, tech, electronics, banking/finance. Japan had a impact which Unions were unable and to this day... unwilling to deal with.

Wow, Foxmannumber1 HAS to be a Poe, right?

thomaswong.1986 says

why would that be any different from what we had even in places like Silicon valley over several decades.. how many back in the days of 80s and 90s during the boom people were in fact working 12-14 days 6 and sometimes 7 days a week over some endless projects or young company ?

I can certainly say working over the past 3 decades in SV working 8 hours 5 days is rather unheard of. Its a real sacrifice over your personal life. that is why tech and SV is not for everyone..

For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.

egads101 says

and my college was 100% paid for by the national science foundation, even my living expenses

I paid my own way.. 100% no loans no handouts not ... I got a job and worked for it.

seems the National Science Foundation really wasted money over you creating another landlord.

tatupu70 says

For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.

who is talking about a start up ? .. im talking about a very mature company.. you will find in many business through out our nations be it the local small business its the same .. long hours.. your own business is your life.. it might be a small pet store, a convenience store , what ever what you call yours.

1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..

thomaswong.1986 says

egads101 says

and my college was 100% paid for by the national science foundation, even my living expenses

I paid my own way.. 100% no loans no handouts not ... I got a job and worked for it.

seems the National Science Foundation really wasted money over you creating another landlord.

It sounds like he could have easily got plenty of well paying jobs with his qualifications but he chose to go into education. I'd say that deserves praise rather than your belittling remarks.

thomaswong.1986 says

tatupu70 says

For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.

who is talking about a start up ? .. im talking about a very mature company.. you will find in many business through out our nations be it the local small business its the same .. long hours.. your own business is your life.. it might be a small pet store, a convenience store , what ever what you call yours.

1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..

Indeed! Child labour and slavery should be reintroduced immediately.

egads101 says

mark D, you are a racist asshole, and not very smart based on your writings here.

then explain why people pay me more than they pay you?

before you brag about your 30K crapy houses in the middle of nowhere, one of mine = 10 of yours.

egads101 says

Mark D says

egads101 says

mark D, you are a racist asshole, and not very smart based on your writings here.

then explain why people pay me more than they pay you?

before you brag about your 30K crapy houses in the middle of nowhere, one of mine = 10 of yours.

Sure they do... Sure they do... keep telling yourself that!

How stupid of an asshole do you have to be, to think that proves your point?

You are a worthless fuck. you are a blight on the world, now go meet up with bap33 and blow each other. that is all you are good for!

then why did you have to become a slumlord fixing tenants toilets to supplement your income? don't give me that "i'm an investor" crap. your houses are 30K each. what a joke.

Call it Crazy says

To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....

may be they need some brownies to fill the quotas.

Call it Crazy says

Yeah, I really think he deserves praise for his "qualifications" for these type of "adult" remarks...

I said his decision to go into education was deserving of praise not what you just stated.

Call it Crazy says

To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....

Given the sort of posts being made in this thread and others, it's not Roberto's posts that make me shake my head at the sorry state of some of humanity.

Mark D says

then why did you have to become a slumlord fixing tenants toilets to supplement your income? don't give me that "i'm an investor" crap. your houses are 30K each. what a joke.

What is your problem? Are you saying he made bad investment decisions? That he was wrong to invest his money (and well by the sounds of it) as he saw fit? Is your job so much more worthy than his job as an educator as you seem so willing to belittle what he does?

egads101 says

Mark D says

Call it Crazy says

To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....

may be they need some brownies to fill the quotas.

I'd love for you to talk to my face that way, you pussy. I'd put your punk little ass in a hospital.

And now lol now the threats of physical violence over words posted on the Internet by randoms. Ultimate fail. Roberto Ribas, U MAD!!!!!

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

Given the sort of posts being made in this thread and others, it's not Roberto's posts that make me shake my head at the sorry state of some of humanity.

Since you are a former resident of CA, that's a typical answer I would expect from you... I guess his type of behavior is accepted on the West Coast...

I've never been a resident of CA. I own a home there. I live and work in Kuwait. I come to America on the visa waiver programme.
And what behaviour of Roberto's is it that is supposedly only accepted on the West Coast? Nothing I've ever seen Roberto post is remotely as bad as the utterly reprehensible racist crap that I see posted in this forum on a regular basis.

Come to L.A and say that to my face coward.

Bigsby says

And what behaviour of Roberto's is it that is supposedly only accepted on the West Coast? Nothing I've ever seen Roberto post is remotely as bad as the utterly reprehensible racist crap that I see posted in this forum on a regular basis.

Roberto is a product of east bay liberal establishment that managed to create lots of lefty zombies who walk around calling everyone racists..

Its all a distraction by the left to cover up their horrible failures over the decades as many other regions have done much better.

drive down 40 miles south into Santa Clara.. its much different here as many have benefited from a robust economy.

Bigsby says

Indeed! Child labour and slavery should be reintroduced immediately.

if you wish, you should check around North Africa to middle east to West/East Asia and you will find
lots of Child Labour and Slavery.

we need not worry about what happened with child labor/slavery since no one is looking to have it here.. once again... idiotic liberals keep bringing up this as a distraction to cover up their dismal failure with managing the economy....