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lostand confused says

China may reach a point where they surprass us. We don't have to help them get there.

We helped Japan, Germany, S. Korea, and Taiwan. Look how much it helped us.

Ah you hire your own H1B-that is different. Most of the companies including current, we have an outsourced solution. So it will be the big consulting firms and us managing. But that is because I have worked mostly in companies that actually produce/manufacture etc and IT is just to keep the company going-an expense, not a profit center. I guess when tech is your product, you would need the best of the best-as they are the ones creating your "product" and hence sales/profit. That is a different dynamic.

lostand confused says

Free trade is idiotic.

Free trade and free markets are ruthless and uncaring ... but with light regulation and oversight ... they are the best market around.

lostand confused says

If Apple or Google loses some revenue in China-who cares? But if the same trade policy creates 10 million lower middle class jobs-that would be far more beneficial-in terms of reducing welfare, increasing taxes etc-EGADS I am sounding like a socialist!!!

You are hurting the remnants of the middle class to get blue collar sub standard jobs, with no hope of competing internationally, back into the US. Those jobs are gone gone gone.

Goog and Fruit are the envy of the gosh darn world right now.

You also close an amazing resource and talent draw the US has.

Know what Germany does for higher education? They pay for every student to go. Why? Students tend to stick around and work in Germany after graduation.

Imagine if that was the US and we had H1B visas going?

The future is going to be countries competing for the best talent, like they are corporations, themselves : this one has nicer laws, lower taxes, great scenery, good housing, medical care, lower crime ... etc. etc. etc.

Rew says

The future is going to be countries competing for the best talent, like they are corporations, themselves : this one has nicer laws, lower taxes, great scenery, good housing, medical care, lower crime ... etc. etc. etc.

Those who manage to get the best talent will rise to the top. Lets make America number 1.

Rew says

You are hurting the remnants of the middle class to get blue collar sub standard jobs, with no hope of competing internationally, back into the US. Those jobs are gone gone gone.

Much as I don't like the term income inequality-because the dems call for higher taxes-that really is a problem. What we are doing is creating a small subset of population that live "fairytale" lives. While tens of millions who are hanging on by a thread-or gubmnt benefits. The dems solutions of raising min wage or taxes are misguided -but the problem exists. Do we want to be like some countries with rich surrounded by starving masses-or in our course 300 pound welfare freaks?? maybe the obese poor won't have the energy for a revolution-LOL!

But yes, I see your point. China and India were once global powerhouses. in fact America was founded because Christopher Columbus wanted an easier route to the riches of India. But my fear is we are following their footsteps into long term decay. A few tech companies concentrated in one area is not going to help the whole country.
I am glad I came to the Midwest, it has widened my horizons and allowed me to look at people with a different worldview. I don't know all the answers-but lets see which way it is going to lurch.

Strategist says

Those who manage to get the best talent will rise to the top. Lets make America number 1.

Couldn't agree more.

lostand confused says

Much as I don't like the term income inequality-because the dems call for higher taxes-that really is a problem.

Totally agree.

lostand confused says

What we are doing is creating a small subset of population that live "fairytale" lives. While tens of millions who are hanging on by a thread-or gubmnt benefits. The dems solutions of raising min wage or taxes are misguided -but the problem exists.

I agree we are creating mass inequalities. If you don't close tax loopholes for businesses, tax making money off money more, and increasing taxes on the top 1%, what is the solution? (The powers that be like a really complex tax code ... so they can game it.)

If those taxes are allocated for education ... America becomes unfathomably more powerful in just 1 generation.

The sad truth is no candidate, with a chance of winning, puts us on the footing we need. It's going to get really dangerous and populist based when that happens. ;) I give it 4 to 8 years. :)

Call it Crazy says

bob2356 says

No wonder he's gone bankrupt so many times.

HE hasn't gone bankrupt once... But FACTS have never been important to you...

No HE hasn't................................... Consider the statement modified to No wonder so many of his organizations have gone bankrupt. Gee let's make him head of the organization called USA since he has such a great track record for running things to date.

well, given the USA, closing in on 20 trillion in debt, is already bankrupt, Trump will inherit this situation and he has demonstrated time and again his ability to come back from the dead and succeed.

bob2356 says

Gee let's make him head of the organization called USA since he has such a great track record for running things to date.

so you're responsible for the decline of the middle class....I see...

Rew says

I'm a hiring manager at one of the predominant tech companies. I live "that crap" yearly. We hire tons of H1B visas specifically for localization

SoftShell says

well, given the USA, closing in on 20 trillion in debt, is already bankrupt,

You aren't bankrupt until you miss a payment.

Rew says

Give it 5 years and China will probably equal greater than 50% of the revenue for my company ... even at the lower growth projections they are at now.

That assumes that a Chinese company doesn't figure out how to copy your business in the next 5 years. Which they are almost certainly trying to do.

SoftShell says

well, given the USA, closing in on 20 trillion in debt, is already bankrupt, Trump will inherit this situation and he has demonstrated time and again his ability to come back from the dead and succeed.

And I'm sure Trump will be fine after he bankrupts the USA too. Not sure about the rest of the country though.

No matter how well Donald does tomorrow night, we(the American voting public) will have to endure him and his brand for a year and about 5 months without him overstaying his welcome and giving even his most ardent supporters now, Donald fatigue by Nov 2016, He's not going to be able to do that by calling everyone losers. That's what we've got the Liberals for elitist name callers.

So how do you bankrupt an entity that is already bankrupt?

tatupu70 says

SoftShell says

well, given the USA, closing in on 20 trillion in debt, is already bankrupt, Trump will inherit this situation and he has demonstrated time and again his ability to come back from the dead and succeed.

And I'm sure Trump will be fine after he bankrupts the USA too. Not sure about the rest of the country though.

bankrupt
adjective
: unable to pay debts

Ok...cough up 18 trillion+....I can wait a couple minutes...

bob2356 says

SoftShell says

well, given the USA, closing in on 20 trillion in debt, is already bankrupt,

You aren't bankrupt until you miss a payment.

Strategist says

Is it hard to find Americans to fill high tech jobs?

No..

Strategist says

They also work for less?

Yes.

SoftShell says

So how do you bankrupt an entity that is already bankrupt?

SoftShell says

bankrupt

adjective

: unable to pay debts

Has the US missed any of its debt payments yet?? So, by your own definition, the country is not bankrupt. For someone who is so concerned with grammar and meanings, you are very confused on the definition of bankrupt.

Call it Crazy says

There's another part of the country that's not the USA? Which geographical section would that be?

Troll much? I'll write it again for the language impaired like you. "Not sure about the rest of the population of the country though"

SoftShell says

bankrupt

adjective

: unable to pay debts

Ok...cough up 18 trillion+....I can wait a couple minutes...

I'm sorry where does it say immediately? I'm not seeing it.

It depends on the meaning of the phrase "unable to pay debts"....
Since the whole english language has been harpooned by the left, in this case we are both wrong, and we are both right.

tatupu70 says

Has the US missed any of its debt payments yet??

If "debt" is interpreted as meaning "a payment", then the USA is not bankrupt.
If "debt" is interpreted as meaning "the totality of what you owe", then the USA is bankrupt.
Since the whole english language has been harpooned by the left, in this case we are both wrong, and we are both right...

bob2356 says

SoftShell says

bankrupt


adjective


: unable to pay debts

Ok...cough up 18 trillion+....I can wait a couple minutes...

I'm sorry where does it say immediately? I'm not seeing it.

SoftShell says

It depends on the meaning of the phrase "unable to pay debts"....

Since the whole english language has been harpooned by the left, in this case we are both wrong, and we are both right.

No, you are wrong and I am right. You cannot say that the US is "unable to pay debts" because it has and continues to pay them. At no point has it ever NOT paid any of its debts.

All you can say is that "in your opinion, at some point in the future the US will be unable to pay its debts". Which is certainly an opinion you are entitled to. But it is factually incorrect to say the US is currently bankrupt.

Call it KKKrazy says

And yet he advocates shutting down government as a legislative tactic on an issue he's flip-flopped on. He's grossly unstable, but he's the perfect mouthpiece for the big "Fuck You" America wants to give its government, especially its legislators. He's too unstable fiscally (his repeated reliance on bankruptcy) and topically (abortion rights and political advocacy) and verbally to be taken seriously as a candidate late in the run. He may hold his tongue in this debate, but in subsequent debates as the clock really counts down and the mud really starts flying he probably won't be able to keep it in his pants (freaking out is what fuels his popularity) and remain on the GOP ticket. I just hope he paces himself and saves the money shot for when he can do the most damage to the GOP/Koch inspired plan to destroy government and let money determine the structure of life.

Even if all of this were true, it would still be a big improvement over Obama.

CaptainShuddup says

I wog the upper crust of the Chilean echelon is not 80% of the earth.

You affect to despise "elites" all around the world, yet you consistently support tax and regulatory policies which will give them more power.

Fascinating!

CaptainShuddup says

Obama has no respect in Asia or Europe and most Latin countries.

Compared to who or what?

Remind me, what year did Obama take office again?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/161309/global-leadership-project.aspx

CaptainShuddup says

That's a poll that favors America you Dink!

And your impression of a country wouldn't at all be a reflection on the leadership there?
The gallup poll above is directly asking about approvals of Obama, and shows Bush's level before he took office.

Obama's approval ratings have been far far higher than Bush's 8 years across the globe.

CaptainShuddup says

That's a poll that favors America not Obama, you Dink!

Holy fuck.

You attribute narrower airline seats to Obama, but won't tie massive improvements in perception of the U.S. between '08 and 2015 to Obama.

Outstanding.

HydroCabron says

You affect to despise "elites" all around the world, yet you consistently support tax and regulatory policies which will give them more power.

Fascinating!

It's even weirder than that--the Cap often criticizes Obama for being too conservative(!) then supports candidates that are much, much further right. And then justifies it by saying that--at least those candidates don't misrepresent who they are.

Trumps' no Kickass J. Bitme, but the usual suspects love him anyway.

thunderlips11 says

Hell - I bet Al Qaeda, ISIS, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas.........all liked Obama more too!

Is that really a good thing?

Despite Obama's apparent popularity with the world's ankle-biters, what has it translated in terms of benefits to American interests? Virtually every corner of the globe is more dangerous and less friendly with the US today than it was under Bush.

socal2 says

the dumb fucker Obama and Hillary overthrew Gadaffi

Now attacking/destroying Gadaffi is a bad thing.

Why do you hate Ronald Reagan?

HydroCabron says

Now attacking/destroying Gadaffi is a bad thing.

Why do you hate Ronald Reagan?

In 2013 it was a bad thing as Gadaffi was tamed, cooperating against Al Qaeda and voluntarily turned over his nuke and WMD program which helped us expose the AQ Khan/North Korea nuke proliferation ring.

One would think that with all that "Smart Power" in the Obama Administration they would have learned after the Iraq War not to conduct Regime Change in the Muslim/Arab world if you don't plan on filling the void with a massive number of troops.

Just wait until the Republicans start running this clip against Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fgcd1ghag5Y

HydroCabron says

Now attacking/destroying Gadaffi is a bad thing.

Why do you hate Ronald Reagan?

Prog logic - national interests and alliance can never change over the course of a quarter century.

Can you name a single Hillary achievement?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GfP8txGBfHc

https://www.youtube.com/embed/J6LKdPuNgxg

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mBwUWnWraWU

This election isn't working out like Gruber promised them it would.

Rew says

CaptainShuddup says

That's a poll that favors America you Dink!

And your impression of a country wouldn't at all be a reflection on the leadership there?

The gallup poll above is directly asking about approvals of Obama, and shows Bush's level before he took office.

Obama's approval ratings have been far far higher than Bush's 8 years across the globe.

Well when Global... eh. whaduz that say... eh "spring 2014 global attitudes Oyvay!"

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. What in the fuck is the Global attitudes Survey. Like I'm to believe that Bill Clinton scaled the mountains of Katmandu to aks them how do they like Obama, and to donate to his foundation. Right, I'm not going to get in a pissing contest over digital art.

Rumsfeld was Secretary of Defense.

Most people say Bush was lousy. Obama ran on being the anti Bush and turned out to be Bush on steroids-not what the doctor ordered. Hillary looks like she will be Obama on steroids-she helped craft the tpp and now distances herself from it-lying POS.

Another Bush while on the menu-I don't think we have the stomach for. o trump it is and maybe Bernie. he is a bit socialist for my taste, but a repub congress can balance that out.

Make my nothing burger medium rare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/politics/donald-trump-corey-lewandowski-recordings-arizona/index.html

Lewandowski insisted Thursday that Borders "never worked for the Trump campaign in any capacity," citing the fact that Borders was never paid and did not have a contract -- something Borders does not deny...

"Like many people he was going through the process of potentially doing work for the campaign," Lewandowski said. "Like we do with everyone (who reaches out), we tell them why don't you put a plan together and we'll vet that."

He said others were also putting together proposals and Borders was in no way about to be hired by the campaign.

Lewandowski said phone conversations between him and Borders in no way reflect the seriousness of the relationship, telling CNN that he returns calls of many people interested in playing a role in the campaign.

In the recordings of phone calls, Lewandowski discusses potentially hiring Borders to lead the campaign's Arizona operations before telling him the campaign would need to downplay him as an "overzealous volunteer" in a later phone call.

After learning of Borders' Facebook posts -- which include a doctored image of President Barack Obama in a turban with a beard, several photos of Obama alongside Adolf Hitler, and another photo saying Obama was "twice elected because the color of his skin rather than the content of his character -- Lewandowski tried to distance the campaign.

Sounds like a mole from the GOP or the slimmy Libs(nothing is beneath them).
The takeaway here is this guy called Trumps campaign, they said show us what you got kid. Borders then whips out his junk and pisses on the Trump campaign.
Then he was told he sucks and to take a hike. Not to be dissuaded his liberal or GOP backers told him to double down on being an honest Trump staffer.
This is going to be funny when Trump hires detectives and lawyers to weed out the Rat in the woodpile.