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neplusultra57 says

Telling everyone around her to stop pleading the fifth would be the absolute dumbest thing she could do. But I'm not surprised that pissant Chaffetz is whining for it to happen. The GOPers have been worshipping Clintons for decades and it's been worth fuck all. They would be happy to subpoena her bathwater if it kept them from doing their jobs as lawmakers and enabled them to empanel yet another pointless kangaroo hearing circle-jerk of weeping self-important Chicken Littles. In the event she wins they are already planning four more years of wasted taxpayer-funded witch hunts that will lead to nothing but taxpayer-funded witch hunts. First a black man and then a non-man. Do you really think they need MORE assistance in the obstruction that has trashed their approval rating with the American electorate? More?

Wow you believe that? All the smoke coming from the Clintons does not indicate any fire?

I knew the trolls would eventually get to Iwop...

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Y'know, back when he was the Font of All Wisdom before he came under intense internal pressure

Ok. We are in agreement.

Rashomon says

Or you mean his her actions running classified documents on a personal server against advice and precedent look like he was meddling she was dealing

indigenous says

Wow you believe that? All the smoke coming from the Clintons does not indicate any fire?

LOL. Read this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/edward-snowden-hillary-clinton-emails_us_581fe27de4b0aac62485334d

Snowden, of all people, explains why investigations that take so long, over and over, are more about producing smoke than fire. I believe that Clinton has been around so long that she gives a target rich environment to lunatic right-wingers who have to blame someone for losing so many of the last popular votes for President. The GOP and the right cannot win the battle for demographic change in America if they don't change. Rather than change and improve their chance of winning they prefer to build fires and point at the smoke. They get paid well to do it, and fools believe what they say.

So Glad the Russians turned off their Mind Control Rays yesterday.

neplusultra57 says

Snowden, of all people, explains why investigations that take so long, over and over, are more about producing smoke than fire.

Bullshit. More likely it is because the Clintons are trained lawyers and know how to manipulate and skirt the law. The allegations have been going on for decades.

Ironman says

Which is exactly why he put me on ignore

And you actually care, which is against the advice of every major religion, philosophy and doctrine of psychology.

If you read the Pali Canon (Buddhism) or the Bible, made notes, and strived to live completely antithetically to their guidelines, you couldn't do a better job than you're doing now.

You're basically anti-Jesus.

indigenous says

The allegations have been going on for decades.

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke, otherwise they'd have to resort to...gasp...governance and...gasp...compromise with a...gasp...black man or a...gasp...female. The only reason there has been only eight years of birtherism is because they didn't know about Obama before then. They've had decades to worship Clinton to practice their incompetence so they've written hundreds of novels with rivers of ink and oceans of time that you gladly pay for simply in order to achieve.....fuck all. Whitewater. Vince Foster. It's all they're good for and they know it so back to the well they go. And you'll pay them to do it. And if the #DoucheBag loses you'll pay him and his idiot spawn for decades to talk about it further. Who knew you were willing to pay so much for so long just for smoke and allegations with nothing to show for it? You've got them right where they want you.

indigenous says

Wow you believe that? All the smoke coming from the Clintons does not indicate any fire?

So far, after all these years, all the smoke was emanating from the cigar Bill stuck up Monica's zorch. Most delightful I'm sure

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

The Teflon Dona. With enough money you're never guilty in this country.

NuttBoxer says

The Teflon Dona. With enough money you're never guilty in this country.

It sure works for Trump so far.

As a general rule, until things get to court one shouldn't pay too much mind. If there are convictions, well, that ain't nuthin'. So far Clinton's nuthingburgers just piss off the wingers no end, but right-wingers continually suffer reality friction. It's pretty much their constant condition, but their only answer is to assail and deny reality. We're used to that, for sure. There are convictions to be had elsewhere. Where though? Christie's crew, for example. Four people have testified that he knew about all of it. But that's bias. That's rigged. Losers gonna lose. Losers gonna whine.

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Weiner's unwarranted possession of State Emails, which he had NO BUSINESS having on his machine (inc. the non-classified ones - why are they on his machine at all?)

Sorry to break your anti hillary ranting bubble but non classified government documents are public property. Anyone can have them anywhere in any format. Most people have to request them using FOI, but there isn't any law that says you can't have them no matter how they got there.

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

That he decided not to recommend prosecution, despite the fact that the sending of classified emails and storing them on an unapproved server does not require intent, back in July.

Feel free to write him and explain how you understand federal law better than the director of the FBI.

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

That it is not all smoke.

bob2356 says

Sorry to break your anti hillary ranting bubble but non classified government documents are public property. Anyone can have them anywhere in any format. Most people have to request them using FOI, but there isn't any law that says you can't have them no matter how they got there.

Do you know none of them were classified?

It's funny, but Clinton didn't like it when Wikileaks put out non-classified State Emails and called Assange a criminal.

It's still a security leak and it deserves to be fully investigated.

bob2356 says

Feel free to write him and explain how you understand federal law better than the director of the FBI.

Oh, I see the Russian Mind Rays were switched off and Comey is back to being a Rule of Law defender instead of an enabler of RACIST! TRUMPLAND! rogue FBI agents.

How about Hillary Supporters proving they are team players:

* Ignoring Hillary's stance on Keystone XL and her record of pushing Fracking hard as Secretary of State.
* Ignoring her support of every single kind of military action since she hit the national stage, not just Iraq.
* Ignoring Hillary's all-time record Corporate Donations, Bundling amounts, and PACs/SuperPACs funded by Big Corporations.
* Ignoring her pro-TPP Record.
* Ignoring her unwillingness to answer the question if she'd down Russian Planes in her desired No-Fly Zone

* Ignoring her tight relationship with Saudi Arabia and Qatar
* Ignoring her non-disclosure of Qatar donating $1M to the CF while she was Sec. of State.
* Ignoring her 'one device' lies about her Server
* Ignoring her bald faced lie her Server was 'approved' by authorities and she did nothing wrong by operating one.

Can't double-talk these things away.

Not good idea to have this wedding coverage made public. Perhaps a lobbyist was in attendance, which allows deduction of wedding expenses?

Did not mom or dad have a good enough income to pitch in?

This is Old News.

Everybody Does It, which makes it Okay.

What's more important is that we don't have a potty mouth in office.

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

That it is not all smoke.

It accomplished "not all smoke"? What is that?

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

That it is not all smoke.

It accomplished "not all smoke"? What is that?

The allegations against the Clinton's

Sorry--which is it today?

People voting for Clinton because they want to protect the establishment?
People voting for Clinton because they hate whitey? Or Men?
People voting for Clinton because Trump has a potty mouth?

Or is it possible they are voting against Trump because his tax plan is worse than Reagan or Bush, his temperament is so bad that his own advisors can't even trust him to have a twitter account, he has no concept what the word truth means? Any of those possibilities?

jazz music votes early says

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Oh, I see the Russian Mind Rays

Troll much?

Cognitive Dissonance about Hillary's Neolib-con record much?

No.

Tampajoe says

Or is it possible they are voting against Trump because his tax plan is worse than Reagan or Bush, his temperament is so bad that his own advisors can't even trust him to have a twitter account, he has no concept what the word truth means? Any of those possibilities?

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

That it is not all smoke.

It accomplished "not all smoke"? What is that?

The allegations against the Clinton's

Brilliant. Allegations accomplish allegations. You right-wingers really do live in your own little misplaced world. And allegations don't even rise to the level of smoke. It must wear you out just trying to refute reality all day everyday. No wonder you're all so cranky and have no energy left but to spend all your time online bitching about things. And then you....you don't even vote. This country deserves better than the likes of you. Never mind, never mind, say something about elites, you know, those crooked manipulators who have enough spit in their mouths to go out and vote.

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

That it is not all smoke.

It accomplished "not all smoke"? What is that?

The allegations against the Clinton's

Brilliant. Allegations accomplish allegations...

So you are saying that Bill Clinton's impeachment did not take place?

You left-wingers really do live in your own little misplaced world.

Without the enormous dowry, they never could have unloaded her.

KILL FOR FUCKING KHRIST!

Tampajoe says

People voting for Clinton because Trump has a potty mouth?

It's the potty mouth. He is a NASTY man.

www.youtube.com/embed/PsCwJq1YfsU

Ironman says

Trump is only down 32,500! And Republicans tend to outvote Democrats on Election Day in Florida.

He was down by 85K on Saturday when polling closed.

I think Hillary has peaked.

Florida won't be enough.

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

neplusultra57 says

It's not about anything but making allegations and blowing smoke

Including Bill's impeachment?

What did that accomplish?

That it is not all smoke.

It accomplished "not all smoke"? What is that?

The al...

Dude, instead of just circling back and starting over with your bullshit why don't you just cut to the part where you say the word "projecting" and run away. What is accomplished by an impeachment that didn't alter Clinton's power? It's for the feelz that are so important to right-wingers....we know.

The 'where there is smoke there is fire' line should be put to rest. There is no smoke. There are just investigations that keep clearing the Clintons.

The Clintons should consider restructuring the foundation and putting a cap on ol' Bill's speaking fees if and while H is in office. Maybe let Band go at that time. If I were them, I'd by looking to make a deal with some lawmakers, though. They have to do something to marginalize the tea party fucksticks.

Ironman says

Do you believe there is currently 11% more Dem voters in the electorate?

I recall showing you some evidence that the gap had shrunk to 5% or something like that. I believe that the polls are not rigged. Based on that assumption, from all of these polls (a shitload of them) I believe that the gap in likely voters is represented more by these poll than by whatever the source was we looked at months ago.

We are about to find out if the polling is accurate. Why are you afraid to go out on a limb and state just how big you think Trump will win? Do you think that Trump will out-perform the polls by 11%? That would put him up 8% or so in the election tomorrow. Is that how you think it will play out? Why don't you try to quantify things a little instead of just crying foul?

neplusultra57 says

Dude, instead of just circling back and starting over with your bullshit why don't you just cut to the part where you say the word "projecting" and run away. What is accomplished by an impeachment that didn't alter Clinton's power? It's for the feelz that are so important to right-wingers....we know.

WTF Dude, impeachment demonstrates that Clinton was willing to commit perjury and obstruct justice. Not something you want in the guy/gal running the country.

He also demonstrated that he was willing to do this to cover up something relatively trivial which speaks volumes about his integrity. If he was willing to perjure himself for a trivial transgression what would he be willing to do about something that was high treason?

indigenous says

WTF Dude, impeachment demonstrates that Clinton was willing to commit perjury and obstruct justice. Not something you want in the guy/gal running the country.

He also demonstrated that he was willing to do this to cover up something relatively trivial which speaks volumes about his integrity. If he was willing to perjure himself for a trivial transgression what would he be willing to do about something that was high treason?

It's all ancient history. The only thing that counts is what happens tomorrow in the swing states. Trump needs an ace up his sleeve.

Strategist says

It's all ancient history. The only thing that counts is what happens tomorrow in the swing states. Trump needs an ace up his sleeve.

Hillary is going win which has been known for 4 years.

It does indicate what we are in for. So far we have seen the muzzled version of the Clintons, after the restraints are removed it will be a different story. WW3 is a genuine fear.