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marcus says

I guess Trump supporters are realizing that there will be some "growing" pains before we get to where America is "great again."

No - this is just another example of the thousands we already know about in terms of the massive double standard and hypocrisy we see in our pop culture.

Disney just hired on the execrable Keith Olbermann back to work at ESPN. That dude is a total Liberal trainwreck man-child who has said many more vulgar things about Conservatives. Yet Disney is cool with that.

And Liberals wonder why many Conservatives don't give a shit about Trump's language and penchant for banging porn stars. You guys set the rules.

HEYYOU says

Donald Trump is a 5 time draft dodging,lying,adulterer & Republicans put him in office.

Even funnier evangelicals almost all voted for him. Nothing like having values you believe in. When it's convenient.

bob2356 says

Even funnier evangelicals almost all voted for him. Nothing like having values you believe in. When it's convenient.

That's a very weak charge: in an election you vote for the lesser evil, not for your ideal candidate. Because the latter does not exist.

Hassan_Rouhani says

That's a very weak charge: in an election you vote for the lesser evil, not for your perfect candidated. Because the latter does not exist.

Funny how the Libs of the world all of a sudden discovered personal integrity. It didn't bother them when they supported a rapist like Bill Clinton or his enabler wife. Let alone the Kennedy's and a huge number of Liberal celebrities in Hollywood and the Media that turned out to be disgusting sexual abusers.

We ran our most milquetoast and squishy Moderate Republicans like Romney and McCain - only for them to be savaged by Democrats and the Media as being beyond the pale.
Mitt Romney was a fucking boy-scout in terms of personal behavior, but it didn't stop the Libs from ginning up hatred against him due to his Mormon religion, his 47% comment, beating up some kid in high-school and putting a dog on his car.

So fuck it - why trying to live up to or play by the Liberal's rules anymore?

She’s an entertainer, and should really fucking know better than to make a racist comment in a twitter war. I’ll just bet the cast is pissed at her something terrible for fucking up their gig.
What she did was no different than what Cathy Gifford did with the Trump head.

My wife has already voted for a Republican for the first time in her life..John Cox for Governor.

She is thoroughly disgusted with the PC culture. She thinks Donald Trump is a complete idiot, but may wind up voting for him anyway.

She loved Rosanne and is plenty pissed that the PC police took that away.

Quigley says

What she did was no different than what Cathy Gifford did with the Trump head.

That's a stretch.

Is John Goodman suing her for sexual harassment yet?

This thing EASILY could have been an extra on any Planet of the Apes movie. With NO MAKEUP! I think Roseanne Barr just nailed it.







Oops. Forgot to add this one for reference.

CovfefeButDeadly says

My wife has already voted for a Republican for the first time in her life..John Cox for Governor.

She is thoroughly disgusted with the PC culture. She thinks Donald Trump is a complete idiot, but may wind up voting for him anyway.

She loved Rosanne and is plenty pissed that the PC police took that away.

Interesting you mention this. I think Dems keep underestimating the amount of people who dont like Trump but cannot vote for the current left. Know quite a few and they won't change voting for him though they don't like him until the left has a new alternative. Those are former blue voters.

Aphroman says

mell says

CovfefeButDeadly says

My wife has already voted for a Republican for the first time in her life..John Cox for Governor.

She is thoroughly disgusted with the PC culture. She thinks Donald Trump is a complete idiot, but may wind up voting for him anyway.

She loved Rosanne and is plenty pissed that the PC police took that away.

Interesting you mention this. I think Dems keep underestimating the amount of people who dont like Trump but cannot vote for the current left. Know quite a few and they won't change voting for him though they don't like him until the left has a new alternative. Those are former blue voters.

Why is it that The Left must put up a perfect candidate, otherwise all the bigtime Independents and “Lolbertarians” will be forced to vote a straight Republican party ticket again and again?

Maybe someone doing away with identity / sjw politics and not advocating for higher individual taxes could turn it around for them. Don't see that candidate on the horizon yet.

Fact: Obama aid has a very ape like face.

Also Fact: Rosanne should not have said anything about it. As a public figure, you're at the scrutiny of the public. If a leftist Democrat had the same thing, I'm sure their show would have been cancelled too.

Goran_K says

If a leftist Democrat had the same thing, I'm sure their show would have been cancelled too.

Doubtful. Pasty white Liberals save their greatest indignation against Black Conservatives. They are called Uncle Toms and worse for leaving the Liberal plantation.

Celebrities and comedians can say the most vile things about Conservatives (including their looks) and still keep their jobs. Did the Comedy Central chick that just hosted and bombed the White House Press dinner making fun of Sarah Sanders' looks get fired from her job? I believe a lot of comedians and celebrities actually supported her........"she is just a comedian.........don't you stuffy Conservatives know how to take a joke you fucking snowflakes!"

socal2 says

Doubtful. Pasty white Liberals save their greatest indignation against Black Conservatives. They are called Uncle Toms and worse for leaving the Liberal plantation.

Celebrities and comedians can say the most vile things about Conservatives (including their looks) and still keep their jobs. Did the Comedy Central chick that just hosted and bombed the White House Press dinner making fun of Sarah Sanders' looks get fired from her job? I believe a lot of comedians and celebrities actually supported her........"she is just a comedian.........don't you stuffy Conservatives know how to take a joke you fucking snowflakes!"

I have zero doubt that if Debra Messing had said that HUD Secretary Ben Carson looked like a dumb ape, and Muslim, she would get tossed from her show.

I'm no defender of PC politics, or the left (as my posts have shown), but Rosanne made a really dumb career mistake by tweeting that vile comment.

Quigley says

What she did was no different than what Cathy Gifford did with the Trump head.

Cathy Gifford got sacked from her NYE gig at CNN for her antics, and pretty much lost her entire broadcast career.

Feux Follets says

But but but - the national anthem - the patriotism ? WTF ?

I see - Progs are cool with her trashing the national anthem. But then they go absolutely ape-shit when she says one of their own looks like a creepy ape.

Yet you seem to think it is the Conservatives that have a consistency problem here?

I don't recall Conservatives getting her fired after she butchered the national anthem, let alone many of the other kooky Left-wing views she holds.

Goran_K says

Quigley says

What she did was no different than what Cathy Gifford did with the Trump head.

Cathy Gifford got sacked from her NYE gig at CNN for her antics, and pretty much lost her entire broadcast career.

Thanks, that was my point. An equivalent offense got an equivalent punishment. Roseann has always been crass, but adding blatantly racist just went beyond the pale. Any true patriot who defends her racist tweet is just asking to be made into a Leftist characature of a white supremacist Trump voter.
We are better than that.

Quigley says

Thanks, that was my point. An equivalent offense got an equivalent punishment. Roseann has always been crass, but adding blatantly racist just went beyond the pale. Any true patriot who defends her racist tweet is just asking to be made into a Leftist characature of a white supremacist Trump voter.
We are better than that.

Truth.

We can't be like the left/democrats who basically have no logical, philosophical, or moral consistency. What Rosanne said was vile, and I condemn it fully.

It is good she is gone-Bill Maher is still there?

Feux Follets says

Either does Potus or his family and administration !

OMFG - They are all "libbies" - undercover libbies !!!!!

Libby vs Righty is far too simple to describe what is happening. It's easy to consume for the laymen, but I'm sure the people who post on Pat.Net are far beyond such simplicity.

Trump is an instinctive nationalist, if you see him in that context, all of his actions make sense.

Hillary is a well spoken Kleptocrat, and if you see her through that lens, her career actions make sense.

Obama was an anti-colonial ideologue. I understand this "ideology" well since I spent the better part of my career working in asia (Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Korea, etc). Combined with his relationship with people like Jeremiah Wright, you begin to see what formed Obama's motivations that had a huge effect on his policies throughout his 2 terms.

Feux Follets says

@Goran_K. Let me muse about all of that for a bit. Trump, Hillary and Barack and their actions or lack there of as well as the other parts.

Just remember, people's actions are formed by their experiences and influences, not pure tribalism. That's all I'm saying.

lostand confused says

It is good she is gone-Bill Maher is still there?

lol he could get fired by the left or the right, depending on which PC idiocy gets him first ;)

Goran_K says

Quigley says

Thanks, that was my point. An equivalent offense got an equivalent punishment. Roseann has always been crass, but adding blatantly racist just went beyond the pale. Any true patriot who defends her racist tweet is just asking to be made into a Leftist characature of a white supremacist Trump voter.
We are better than that.

Truth.

We can't be like the left/democrats who basically have no logical, philosophical, or moral consistency. What Rosanne said was vile, and I condemn it fully.

You see a lot of this come out with advanced age. Old people become like kids and eventually do not filter at all anymore. But 65 is not really an excuse unless it's soon revealed that she has Alzheimers or some other degenerative brain issue.

Feux Follets says

You are aware this is a key element of diversity and bias training - yes ?

I don't care about PC bull shit, and fortunately was financially independent before "diversity training" became a thing in the private sector.

There's a huge difference between understanding someone's background, experiences, and the effect it can have on their actions in the real world as a result of that, and people who are just supporting and propagating victim culture.

One is helpful for society, and the other is often adopted by scumbags who are giant pieces of shit.

mell says

But 65 is not really an excuse unless it's soon revealed that she has Alzheimers or some other degenerative brain issue.

Rosanne was a crass asshole long before she came out as a Trump supporter. I'm old enough to remember her behavior during her prime.

Goran_K says

mell says

But 65 is not really an excuse unless it's soon revealed that she has Alzheimers or some other degenerative brain issue.

Rosanne was a crass asshole long before she came out as a Trump supporter. I'm old enough to remember her behavior during her prime.

Never watched her shows and didn't grow up with much American TV. So it could be age related cause even if you're vile you can probably hide it better - esp. for the crassest/worst offenses - after childhood and before seniorhood, when your diplomacy radar functions at its best. ;)

mell says

Never watched her shows and didn't grow up with much American TV. So it could be age related cause even if you're vile you can probably hide it better - esp. for the crassest/worst offenses - after childhood and before seniorhood, when your diplomacy radar functions at its best. ;)

I'm just disappointed that all the giant pieces of shit get all the air-time for both sides. Politics has literally become the Jerry Springer show. It's ridiculous. 20 years ago, people would have laughed at Rosanne and her political opinion. Now it's 24 hour news at CNN. For fucks sake. end rant

The best thing all of us Americans can do is distance our own viewpoints from Roseanne and her mouth. I know a lot of people liked her show or brand of humor, but that doesn’t mean we should justify or excuse her for this.

We do that, and CNN can use it as a lever to paint all conservatives as vile racists, when that is more often true of the Left.

Quigley says

The best thing all of us Americans can do is distance our own viewpoints from Roseanne and her mouth. I know a lot of people liked her show or brand of humor, but that doesn’t mean we should justify or excuse her for this.

We do that, and CNN can use it as a lever to paint all conservatives as vile racists, when that is more often true of the Left.

While I agree on the personal/network distancing it is sad that political correctness has basically removed a lot of talent (left and right if you must use political divides) - not necessarily talking about Roseanne - from art, entertainment and business. If Colbert says on his show that Trump's mouth is Putin's cock-holster (imagine a comedy show under Obama with similar imagery) - note the double standard here - I am still all for people who find Colbert brilliant for whatever reason to enjoy his show/humor (same for Kathy G. when she showed DTs severed head). Back in the days one could have stated that your (e.g ABCs in this case) views do not coincide with Roseannes and the show may have continued. These days that is mostly not an option anymore.

LeonDurham says

Oh good--are we back on the "Trump supporters are so mistreated" bandwagon again? Oh no, don't be mean to the Trumpkin special snowflakes!!

Stop making valid comparisons!

Woman had a stupid thought, posted on twitter, got fired. That's how it goes in our society these days.

I hope you all appreciate the anonymity of patrick.net, or you'd all be with Roseanne right now seeking unemployment benefits.

Feux Follets says

How do you discern the difference and when does it occur ?

Easy, when a guy, let’s call him “Spike” says, “Oh oh, Trump is a White supremacist. He’s a motherfucker, he’s not my president because he is a racist.”

Then you remember....


That’s how you know everything Spike said is complete horse shit and he’s just being loyal to a political party that has no moral qualms about twisting truth.

Like I said, easy.

Not fired.



Fired, despite her godson on the left.

bob2356 says

HEYYOU says

Donald Trump is a 5 time draft dodging,lying,adulterer & Republicans put him in office.

Even funnier evangelicals almost all voted for him. Nothing like having values you believe in. When it's convenient.

Narrow thinking... Elections don’t always have your ideal, 100% behind him, candidate. You usually have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Why can’t people seem to grasp this simple point?

Aphroman says

BayArea says

bob2356 says

HEYYOU says

Donald Trump is a 5 time draft dodging,lying,adulterer & Republicans put him in office.

Even funnier evangelicals almost all voted for him. Nothing like having values you believe in. When it's convenient.

Narrow thinking... Elections don’t always have your ideal, 100% behind him, candidate. You usually have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Why can’t people seem to grasp this simple point?

So evangelicals are just victims, and the liberals made them do it?

Whodda thunkd??

No and no.

Aphroman says

If you have a point, make it

One person fired for a tweet that said an Iranian born public figure is from planet of the apes, not on her show but again on twitter, and got fired. Despite a near instant apology.


The other compared a public figure to an orangutan on his show, not a tweet, never appologized, and still has his show.

I like both assholes for being pricks, but I note the double standard

one comedian compared a public figure to an ape, fired.
another comedian compared a public figure to an ape, not fired.
so the standard appears to be anything goes as long as it's on a comedians show, and on HBO.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

One person fired for

BayArea says

Narrow thinking... Elections don’t always have your ideal, 100% behind him, candidate. You usually have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Why can’t people seem to grasp this simple point?

Someone who is the antithesis of everything you believe in is not your 100% ideal candidate. That's really funny. Trump apologists do have a sense of humor.

Evangelical is a money making and political power grab scam. Look at what happened when some actual devout evangelicals tried to point out the hypocrisy of the main stream deep state evangelical power/money complex that is so Incestuously tied into conservative politics. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/us/anti-trump-evangelicals-lynchburg.html Religion throughout all of history has always been about money and power wrapped in a blanket of hypocrisy.

The big deal over Roseanne is a case of "kill the messenger".

Valerie does look like Dr. Zira a little bit.

My complaint about Vaierie was not her appearance, it was her absurd political position. I distrust anyone who grew up in Iran and I didn't like her being inside Obama's inner circle.

Valieris may actuallly thank Roseanne for reminding the public that she exists. Now she may write a book or something, maybe she'll get onto the View, etc.