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23   mell   2018 May 29, 2:13pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
My wife has already voted for a Republican for the first time in her life..John Cox for Governor.

She is thoroughly disgusted with the PC culture. She thinks Donald Trump is a complete idiot, but may wind up voting for him anyway.

She loved Rosanne and is plenty pissed that the PC police took that away.


Interesting you mention this. I think Dems keep underestimating the amount of people who dont like Trump but cannot vote for the current left. Know quite a few and they won't change voting for him though they don't like him until the left has a new alternative. Those are former blue voters.
24   mell   2018 May 29, 2:38pm  

Aphroman says
mell says
CovfefeButDeadly says
My wife has already voted for a Republican for the first time in her life..John Cox for Governor.

She is thoroughly disgusted with the PC culture. She thinks Donald Trump is a complete idiot, but may wind up voting for him anyway.

She loved Rosanne and is plenty pissed that the PC police took that away.


Interesting you mention this. I think Dems keep underestimating the amount of people who dont like Trump but cannot vote for the current left. Know quite a few and they won't change voting for him though they don't like him until the left has a new alternative. Those are former blue voters.


Why is it that The Left must put up a perfect candidate, otherwise all the bigtime Independents and “Lolbertarians” will be forced to vote a straight Republican party ticket again and again?


Maybe someone doing away with identity / sjw politics and not advocating for higher individual taxes could turn it around for them. Don't see that candidate on the horizon yet.
25   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 2:40pm  

Fact: Obama aid has a very ape like face.

Also Fact: Rosanne should not have said anything about it. As a public figure, you're at the scrutiny of the public. If a leftist Democrat had the same thing, I'm sure their show would have been cancelled too.
26   socal2   2018 May 29, 2:47pm  

Goran_K says
If a leftist Democrat had the same thing, I'm sure their show would have been cancelled too.


Doubtful. Pasty white Liberals save their greatest indignation against Black Conservatives. They are called Uncle Toms and worse for leaving the Liberal plantation.

Celebrities and comedians can say the most vile things about Conservatives (including their looks) and still keep their jobs. Did the Comedy Central chick that just hosted and bombed the White House Press dinner making fun of Sarah Sanders' looks get fired from her job? I believe a lot of comedians and celebrities actually supported her........"she is just a comedian.........don't you stuffy Conservatives know how to take a joke you fucking snowflakes!"
27   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 2:53pm  

socal2 says
Doubtful. Pasty white Liberals save their greatest indignation against Black Conservatives. They are called Uncle Toms and worse for leaving the Liberal plantation.

Celebrities and comedians can say the most vile things about Conservatives (including their looks) and still keep their jobs. Did the Comedy Central chick that just hosted and bombed the White House Press dinner making fun of Sarah Sanders' looks get fired from her job? I believe a lot of comedians and celebrities actually supported her........"she is just a comedian.........don't you stuffy Conservatives know how to take a joke you fucking snowflakes!"


I have zero doubt that if Debra Messing had said that HUD Secretary Ben Carson looked like a dumb ape, and Muslim, she would get tossed from her show.

I'm no defender of PC politics, or the left (as my posts have shown), but Rosanne made a really dumb career mistake by tweeting that vile comment.
28   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 2:55pm  

Quigley says
What she did was no different than what Cathy Gifford did with the Trump head.


Cathy Gifford got sacked from her NYE gig at CNN for her antics, and pretty much lost her entire broadcast career.
29   socal2   2018 May 29, 2:55pm  

Feux Follets says
But but but - the national anthem - the patriotism ? WTF ?


I see - Progs are cool with her trashing the national anthem. But then they go absolutely ape-shit when she says one of their own looks like a creepy ape.

Yet you seem to think it is the Conservatives that have a consistency problem here?

I don't recall Conservatives getting her fired after she butchered the national anthem, let alone many of the other kooky Left-wing views she holds.
30   Shaman   2018 May 29, 3:05pm  

Goran_K says
Quigley says
What she did was no different than what Cathy Gifford did with the Trump head.


Cathy Gifford got sacked from her NYE gig at CNN for her antics, and pretty much lost her entire broadcast career.


Thanks, that was my point. An equivalent offense got an equivalent punishment. Roseann has always been crass, but adding blatantly racist just went beyond the pale. Any true patriot who defends her racist tweet is just asking to be made into a Leftist characature of a white supremacist Trump voter.
We are better than that.
31   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 3:16pm  

Quigley says
Thanks, that was my point. An equivalent offense got an equivalent punishment. Roseann has always been crass, but adding blatantly racist just went beyond the pale. Any true patriot who defends her racist tweet is just asking to be made into a Leftist characature of a white supremacist Trump voter.
We are better than that.


Truth.

We can't be like the left/democrats who basically have no logical, philosophical, or moral consistency. What Rosanne said was vile, and I condemn it fully.
32   lostand confused   2018 May 29, 3:19pm  

It is good she is gone-Bill Maher is still there?
33   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 3:34pm  

Feux Follets says
Either does Potus or his family and administration !

OMFG - They are all "libbies" - undercover libbies !!!!!


Libby vs Righty is far too simple to describe what is happening. It's easy to consume for the laymen, but I'm sure the people who post on Pat.Net are far beyond such simplicity.

Trump is an instinctive nationalist, if you see him in that context, all of his actions make sense.

Hillary is a well spoken Kleptocrat, and if you see her through that lens, her career actions make sense.

Obama was an anti-colonial ideologue. I understand this "ideology" well since I spent the better part of my career working in asia (Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Korea, etc). Combined with his relationship with people like Jeremiah Wright, you begin to see what formed Obama's motivations that had a huge effect on his policies throughout his 2 terms.
34   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 3:43pm  

Feux Follets says
@Goran_K. Let me muse about all of that for a bit. Trump, Hillary and Barack and their actions or lack there of as well as the other parts.


Just remember, people's actions are formed by their experiences and influences, not pure tribalism. That's all I'm saying.
35   mell   2018 May 29, 3:51pm  

lostand confused says
It is good she is gone-Bill Maher is still there?


lol he could get fired by the left or the right, depending on which PC idiocy gets him first ;)
36   mell   2018 May 29, 3:54pm  

Goran_K says
Quigley says
Thanks, that was my point. An equivalent offense got an equivalent punishment. Roseann has always been crass, but adding blatantly racist just went beyond the pale. Any true patriot who defends her racist tweet is just asking to be made into a Leftist characature of a white supremacist Trump voter.
We are better than that.


Truth.

We can't be like the left/democrats who basically have no logical, philosophical, or moral consistency. What Rosanne said was vile, and I condemn it fully.


You see a lot of this come out with advanced age. Old people become like kids and eventually do not filter at all anymore. But 65 is not really an excuse unless it's soon revealed that she has Alzheimers or some other degenerative brain issue.
37   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 3:55pm  

Feux Follets says
You are aware this is a key element of diversity and bias training - yes ?


I don't care about PC bull shit, and fortunately was financially independent before "diversity training" became a thing in the private sector.

There's a huge difference between understanding someone's background, experiences, and the effect it can have on their actions in the real world as a result of that, and people who are just supporting and propagating victim culture.

One is helpful for society, and the other is often adopted by scumbags who are giant pieces of shit.
38   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 3:58pm  

mell says
But 65 is not really an excuse unless it's soon revealed that she has Alzheimers or some other degenerative brain issue.


Rosanne was a crass asshole long before she came out as a Trump supporter. I'm old enough to remember her behavior during her prime.
39   mell   2018 May 29, 4:02pm  

Goran_K says
mell says
But 65 is not really an excuse unless it's soon revealed that she has Alzheimers or some other degenerative brain issue.


Rosanne was a crass asshole long before she came out as a Trump supporter. I'm old enough to remember her behavior during her prime.


Never watched her shows and didn't grow up with much American TV. So it could be age related cause even if you're vile you can probably hide it better - esp. for the crassest/worst offenses - after childhood and before seniorhood, when your diplomacy radar functions at its best. ;)
40   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 4:04pm  

mell says
Never watched her shows and didn't grow up with much American TV. So it could be age related cause even if you're vile you can probably hide it better - esp. for the crassest/worst offenses - after childhood and before seniorhood, when your diplomacy radar functions at its best. ;)



I'm just disappointed that all the giant pieces of shit get all the air-time for both sides. Politics has literally become the Jerry Springer show. It's ridiculous. 20 years ago, people would have laughed at Rosanne and her political opinion. Now it's 24 hour news at CNN. For fucks sake. end rant
41   Shaman   2018 May 29, 4:38pm  

The best thing all of us Americans can do is distance our own viewpoints from Roseanne and her mouth. I know a lot of people liked her show or brand of humor, but that doesn’t mean we should justify or excuse her for this.

We do that, and CNN can use it as a lever to paint all conservatives as vile racists, when that is more often true of the Left.
42   mell   2018 May 29, 4:52pm  

Quigley says
The best thing all of us Americans can do is distance our own viewpoints from Roseanne and her mouth. I know a lot of people liked her show or brand of humor, but that doesn’t mean we should justify or excuse her for this.

We do that, and CNN can use it as a lever to paint all conservatives as vile racists, when that is more often true of the Left.


While I agree on the personal/network distancing it is sad that political correctness has basically removed a lot of talent (left and right if you must use political divides) - not necessarily talking about Roseanne - from art, entertainment and business. If Colbert says on his show that Trump's mouth is Putin's cock-holster (imagine a comedy show under Obama with similar imagery) - note the double standard here - I am still all for people who find Colbert brilliant for whatever reason to enjoy his show/humor (same for Kathy G. when she showed DTs severed head). Back in the days one could have stated that your (e.g ABCs in this case) views do not coincide with Roseannes and the show may have continued. These days that is mostly not an option anymore.
43   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 29, 4:55pm  

LeonDurham says
Oh good--are we back on the "Trump supporters are so mistreated" bandwagon again? Oh no, don't be mean to the Trumpkin special snowflakes!!


Stop making valid comparisons!
44   FortWayne   2018 May 29, 5:32pm  

Woman had a stupid thought, posted on twitter, got fired. That's how it goes in our society these days.

I hope you all appreciate the anonymity of patrick.net, or you'd all be with Roseanne right now seeking unemployment benefits.
45   Goran_K   2018 May 29, 7:28pm  

Feux Follets says
How do you discern the difference and when does it occur ?


Easy, when a guy, let’s call him “Spike” says, “Oh oh, Trump is a White supremacist. He’s a motherfucker, he’s not my president because he is a racist.”

Then you remember....


That’s how you know everything Spike said is complete horse shit and he’s just being loyal to a political party that has no moral qualms about twisting truth.

Like I said, easy.
46   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 29, 8:12pm  



Not fired.



Fired, despite her godson on the left.
47   BayArea   2018 May 29, 8:21pm  

bob2356 says
HEYYOU says
Donald Trump is a 5 time draft dodging,lying,adulterer & Republicans put him in office.


Even funnier evangelicals almost all voted for him. Nothing like having values you believe in. When it's convenient.


Narrow thinking... Elections don’t always have your ideal, 100% behind him, candidate. You usually have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Why can’t people seem to grasp this simple point?
48   BayArea   2018 May 29, 8:36pm  

Aphroman says
BayArea says
bob2356 says
HEYYOU says
Donald Trump is a 5 time draft dodging,lying,adulterer & Republicans put him in office.


Even funnier evangelicals almost all voted for him. Nothing like having values you believe in. When it's convenient.


Narrow thinking... Elections don’t always have your ideal, 100% behind him, candidate. You usually have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Why can’t people seem to grasp this simple point?


So evangelicals are just victims, and the liberals made them do it?

Whodda thunkd??


No and no.
49   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 29, 10:08pm  

Aphroman says

If you have a point, make it


One person fired for a tweet that said an Iranian born public figure is from planet of the apes, not on her show but again on twitter, and got fired. Despite a near instant apology.


The other compared a public figure to an orangutan on his show, not a tweet, never appologized, and still has his show.

I like both assholes for being pricks, but I note the double standard
50   Y   2018 May 30, 2:11am  

one comedian compared a public figure to an ape, fired.
another comedian compared a public figure to an ape, not fired.
so the standard appears to be anything goes as long as it's on a comedians show, and on HBO.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
One person fired for
51   bob2356   2018 May 30, 3:33am  

BayArea says
Narrow thinking... Elections don’t always have your ideal, 100% behind him, candidate. You usually have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Why can’t people seem to grasp this simple point?


Someone who is the antithesis of everything you believe in is not your 100% ideal candidate. That's really funny. Trump apologists do have a sense of humor.

Evangelical is a money making and political power grab scam. Look at what happened when some actual devout evangelicals tried to point out the hypocrisy of the main stream deep state evangelical power/money complex that is so Incestuously tied into conservative politics. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/us/anti-trump-evangelicals-lynchburg.html Religion throughout all of history has always been about money and power wrapped in a blanket of hypocrisy.
52   clambo   2018 May 30, 4:12am  

The big deal over Roseanne is a case of "kill the messenger".

Valerie does look like Dr. Zira a little bit.

My complaint about Vaierie was not her appearance, it was her absurd political position. I distrust anyone who grew up in Iran and I didn't like her being inside Obama's inner circle.

Valieris may actuallly thank Roseanne for reminding the public that she exists. Now she may write a book or something, maybe she'll get onto the View, etc.
53   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 30, 6:01am  

Aphroman says
If you have a point, make it


If you have a braincell use it.
54   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 30, 7:28am  

Make Virtue Signaling Great Again...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5785135/John-Goodman-Sara-Gilbert-spotted-Roseanne-canceled.html

Does this mean the Liberal media has to stop being racist against the Orange One?
55   Shaman   2018 May 30, 7:33am  

No, the rule is that white people maybe demeaned in any way possible without repercussions, as long as they are conservatives. Hell, you can make all the racially charged blanket statements you like about white people! Asian people are also fair game, if not to the extent that white people are. Why? Because as a group they are the most successful and intelligent and productive. This inspires envy and resentment in groups of much less notable achievements.
56   LeonDurham   2018 May 30, 7:38am  

Quigley says
Asian people are also fair game, if not to the extent that white people are. Why? Because as a group they are the most successful and intelligent and productive. This inspires envy and resentment in groups of much less notable achievements.


Really? Did you not see the girl get shamed for wearing a traditional Asian dress to prom?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/
57   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 30, 7:43am  

RafiMaas says
No it means that this shit is happening because of Trump.


What is happening? What do you mean? What starts at the top? Lying, graft, sedition, cheating, treason? String that bastard Obama Up!
58   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 30, 7:51am  

BTW Rosanne gets the last Laugh Janet will be in prison along side the rest of the Obama administration criminal thugs.
Especially that Planet of the Apes Muslim Brotherhood Cunt.
60   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 30, 8:08am  

Aphroman says
Why did Roseanne delete the tweet and quickly fire off an apology? Seems she knew her intent was to be a racist asshole


She thought Liberals are civil.
Had She stood her ground the whole thing would have blown over in a few days. Wanda Sykes would have been begging to get back in. That virtue signaling cunt. Works with a woman for 40 years, then throws her under the bus like that because it's easy to do. What was that cunt Wanda working with a Racist for? The Reno Cunt looks just like the Doctor in Tim Burton's 2001 Planet of the Apes. Which btw assholes Google doesn't want people searching for Planet of the Apes and have Tim Burton's version in the results. I've gone to the 8th page so far. Not one single mention, not even a IMDB the first page has the 1968 version and the 2017 version.

How long are Idiots going to let Google do the thinking for them?

Did you know I'm smarter than most Liberals? If they don't find it in Google then it didn't happen.
You fuckers better not think for yourself, you'll make Google and the Democrats Mad.
61   bob2356   2018 May 30, 8:12am  

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
One person fired for a tweet that said an Iranian born public figure is from planet of the apes, not on her show but again on twitter, and got fired. Despite a near instant apology.


The other compared a public figure to an orangutan on his show, not a tweet, never appologized, and still has his show.


Some trumpets are having trouble with words like show and act. As in acting and comedy show/act. The whole point of a comedy act is to say outrageous things you would not say off the stage.

Fake outrage #1,345,234.
62   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 30, 8:16am  

Never Apologize to Deviant Freak Liberals. Never!

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