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The best case against Trump


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2018 Oct 7, 9:58am   21,185 views  210 comments

by CBOEtrader   ➕follow (4)   💰tip   ignore  

I want to hear why a clear thinking adult would be anti-Trump.

What is your most well-reasoned anti-Trump argument? If you think he's a liar, please post the video. Or if you disagree with legislation he pioneered or executive orders, please post a link and reasoning.

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120   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 7, 10:27pm  

rdm says
I have seen no real evidence that Kim is dismantling his nukes, or intends to do so, which is the base demand


On the denuclearization committed to at the leaders' first summit in Singapore, Kim told Pompeo that inspectors were invited to visit the Punggye-ri nuclear test site "to confirm that it has been irreversibly dismantled," according to a statement from spokeswoman Heather Nauert.



https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/N-Korea-at-crossroads/US-and-North-Korea-agree-to-second-summit-as-soon-as-possible2
121   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 8, 8:25am  

That's a wrap. Trump is weaker on environmental regulations in favor of economic expansion.

^^ other than that I didn't see a legit criticism of our favorite POTUS.

Keep America great in 2020 all but guaranteed
122   rdm   2018 Oct 8, 8:59am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Kim told Pompeo that inspectors were invited to visit the Punggye-ri nuclear test site "to confirm that it has been irreversibly dismantled,"


Has that happened? I have not heard that it has been followed through. But let's say it will be, you do realize that that particular site had been so degraded by multiple nuke tests that it was collapsing, had killed many people and had to abandoned? So allowing verification of a site you are already abandoning for safety reasons is almost meaningless, I certainly wouldn't want to be one of the inspectors on that gig. When they start allowing (and it really happens) unannounced inspection of active facilities to verify the dismantlement of their nukes then I will kiss the ring on Trump's tiny finger.
123   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 8, 12:29pm  

Did you write this sentence with an anti-trump mad lib?

Pure rhetoric without a cohesive thought, or any actual meaning whatsoever.
124   Strategist   2018 Oct 8, 12:54pm  

LeonDurham says
CBOEtrader says
Have you seen any evidence ok Kim threatening to blow up Hawaii? Compare this winter this last year and tell me Kim isnt compliant. GTFO if you cant appreciate how much safer Trump has made the world


lol--so Trump's accomplishment is giving up wargames in Korea in return for Kim not making blowhard statements about blowing up Hawaii?


To anti Trump people,
Do you feel we were safer at the end of Obama's Presidency as opposed to the start of his Presidency?
125   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 8, 1:08pm  

rdm says
Has that happened?


Was this even discussed under Bush or Obama? NOPE.

Progress.
126   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 8, 3:09pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
rdm says
Has that happened?


Was this even discussed under Bush or Obama? NOPE.

Progress.


https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1049149205254737922

Something is happening.
127   Strategist   2018 Oct 8, 3:42pm  

CBOEtrader says
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1049149205254737922

Something is happening.


It's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.
You can come out from under the bed Obama. It's getting safer.
128   rdm   2018 Oct 8, 4:18pm  

Strategist says
It's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.


So dismantling a testing facility that was crumbling to the point it had killed some of NK's scientists and had to be abandoned regardless of any agreement; this is progress that Trump has brought by elevating a fat murderous dictator to the level of a world leader and ham stringing the sanctions regime? Yes, being in love is a many splendored thing. But without love, this requires suspension of disbelief, but if it makes you "feel" safe and happy; good night, sweet dreams, it will all be over soon enough; Uncle Donnie will be by to kiss you goodnight and you know he loves all his sycophants almost as much as Kim.
129   Strategist   2018 Oct 8, 4:26pm  

rdm says
Strategist says
It's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.


So dismantling a testing facility that was crumbling to the point it had killed some of NK's scientists and had to be abandoned regardless of any agreement; this is progress that Trump has brought by elevating a fat murderous dictator to the level of a world leader and ham stringing the sanctions regime?


Allowing any inspection is progress.
If Donald and Kim really fall in love, it will be the greatest love story ever told.
130   LastMan   2018 Oct 8, 4:50pm  

CBOEtrader says
I want to hear why a clear thinking adult would be anti-Trump.


He cut taxes without cutting spending first. In fact, he's on a spending binge.

https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/dems-take-gop-and-future-generations-cleaners

"The 2,232-page omnibus spending deal signed into law last week threw fiscal sanity out the window. While entitlement spending has continued to grow, the relative restraint in discretionary spending had provided hope that federal budget control was possible.

But that hope is now dashed under this president and Congress. The omnibus hiked discretionary spending 13 percent in a single year, while scraping the budget caps that were the singular achievement of reformers after the landmark 2010 election.

President Trump included substantial cuts in his recent budget, but signing the omnibus made a joke of his own proposals for fiscal restraint.

The GOP’s discretionary budget actions and the relentless rise of health care and retirement spending have put the budget on a catastrophic course.

Projections by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget show that, without reforms, deficits will top $1 trillion next year and $2.4 trillion by 2028, and continue growing after that."
131   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:10pm  

TrumpingTits says
Yes but what we all saw on TV was a trial and not a job interview.


Nope--he wasn't going to jail no matter what happened. Worst case was he didn't become a Supreme Court Justice.

That's a job interview.
132   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:12pm  

PrivilegedtobeWhite says
LeonDurham - you should read the book entitled "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting up a Generation for Failure". This could really change your life if you keep an open mind.


Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
133   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:16pm  

CBOEtrader says
LOL this guy is hilarious. Dude the article points out first hand sworn accounts of people previously intimate with Ford who contradict her story. Grassley all but states he expects more contradictions when Ford's lawyers finally share all the evidence he is demanding. He also directly accuses the lawyers of not believing Ford's story and purely using the situation as a political weapon.

^^ is this how you define credible? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


Nope. That's a lie. It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.

The fact that you have to exaggerate and outright lie about it says everything that needs to be said.
134   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:18pm  

CBOEtrader says
That's a wrap. Trump is weaker on environmental regulations in favor of economic expansion.


Did you miss the part about his shitty tax plan? Or did you purposely ignore it?
135   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 8, 5:53pm  

I love the SNAP Food Box, what a great idea. This way we make sure kids get good food and not just Chips and Mac n' Cheese from Shanaynay and Luanne

Libbies love Farm Boxes too, they are always signing up for them at the Farmer's Market.
136   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:57pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
This way we make sure kids get good food and not just Chips and Mac n' Cheese from Shanaynay and Luanne


How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?
137   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 8, 6:39pm  

LeonDurham says
How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?



You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?
138   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 6:41pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?


I've never met anyone named luanne
140   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Oct 8, 8:05pm  

TrumpingTits says
LeonDurham says
A job interview is different from a trial.

Yes but what we all saw on TV was a trial and not a job interview.


It was an attempted character assassination. Well, at least now he will have something to remember liberals by, every time he judges a case in the future. Which is what probably scares feminists more than anything else.
141   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Oct 8, 8:09pm  

LeonDurham says
Even Fox News called her credible FFS


For your sake I hope English is your "second language", or even distant "third" because that would be the only legitimate excuse for not understanding English.
Do you understand the meaning of "credible"? It doesn't mean accurate, or truthful. Nigerian billionaire is credible too.

FBI report came out and said accusation is false, her best friends who she said were witnesses, all came back and said that they did not witness anything like that or saw anything like that.
142   Strategist   2018 Oct 8, 8:12pm  

Booger says


I always knew exercise was good for you.
143   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 1:15am  

LeonDurham says
It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.


You are missing the point, probably because you still havent read the article and have no idea what we're talking about.

Ford's ex boyfriend and Fords own testimony as it changed over time each contradicts her testimony before Senate. These are facts. Try to keep up.
144   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 1:20am  

LeonDurham says
It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.


This is also inaccurate though. Ford's childhood friend stated the party "never happened". She has since testified that Ford's FBI friend pressured her to change her testimony to "not remembering a party like that". The point of this deception is specifically so people whose brains are soft for propaganda have the reaction you just had.

Congrats on being the propagandists' target audience.
145   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 1:25am  

LastMan says
He cut taxes without cutting spending first. In fact, he's on a spending binge.


I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.

We will see what his track record w the deficit is after he has had a chance to both cut spending and let the economy grow from the tax cuts.

The debt is 50 years in the making and just doubled under Obama, so let's keep this in some perspective. At some point giant crashes will clean out the system. Under which president ? That's like a giant game of Russian roulette
146   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 9:57am  

I seem to remember the President NOT being happy with the omnibus bill.
147   LastMan   2018 Oct 9, 4:32pm  

CBOEtrader says
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.


I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front. Usually politicians promise fiscal responsibility some time in the distant future; I'm not even sure he's doing that.
148   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 5:36pm  

I'm so old, I remember an October not long ago when Obama, Hillary, the entire Democratic Party, and the Media was lecturing me about accepting the outcome of an election.
149   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 5:52pm  

Aphroman says
Two years later and the Trumpcucks are still bitter that Hillary received more votes. How sad is that?


Completely missed the point.

Let me explain it special for you.

The Democrats spent the weeks before the election demanding that Trump Voters accept the outcome of the election.

They then spent the next two years trying to delegitimize Trump by any means necessary. They literally flipped their script 180 the day after the election. That's called gross hypocrisy.



www.youtube.com/embed/pJB0Ag72bEs
150   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 6:52pm  

I cant even follow what or who aphro is attempting to parody.
151   RWSGFY   2018 Oct 9, 6:53pm  

Aphroman says
As an Independent


ROTFLMAO
152   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 7:03pm  

Aphroman says
Is turnabout suddenly NOT fair play?


I don't remember the Republicans, the Media, Big Tech, and all Academia trying to say Obama wasn't a real President, that his election was hacked by Russia, and that he was an actual fascist supported only by Racists.


Again, all the Forces of Influence in this country said in October 2016 that Trump and his supporters have to accept the election results, then spent the next two years "explaining" how he allegedly colluded with Putin to take over the US Election process.
153   anonymous   2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm  

LeonDurham says
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
LeonDurham - you should read the book entitled "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting up a Generation for Failure". This could really change your life if you keep an open mind.


Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
Start with page 1 and keep going...
154   Strategist   2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm  

LastMan says
CBOEtrader says
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.


I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front.


Wall Street is the ultimate judge on the economy and economic policies. Wall Street has concluded "increasing spending while cutting taxes" will benefit the economy at this point in time.
I would go with Wall Street.
155   Strategist   2018 Oct 9, 7:20pm  

Aphroman says
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I'm so old, I remember an October not long ago when Obama, Hillary, the entire Democratic Party, and the Media was lecturing me about accepting the outcome of an election.


Two years later and the Trumpcucks are still bitter that Hillary received more votes. How sad is that?


No Aphroman, no. It would be the Democrats who are bitter, having lost the election even though they got more votes.
156   Strategist   2018 Oct 9, 7:55pm  

Aphroman says
Donald Trump claimed Obama was a foreign born Muslin to this day.


That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.
157   Patrick   2018 Oct 9, 8:35pm  

Strategist says
I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.


Agreed. We don't need a nice president. We need an effective president, and we finally got one, somehow.
159   Strategist   2018 Oct 10, 9:52am  

Aphroman says
Strategist says
Aphroman says
Donald Trump claimed Obama was a foreign born Muslin to this day.


That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.


Most importantly is he good for our Sovereignty


I don't recall our sovereignty ever being questioned or even an issue.

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