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CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 8, 3:09pm
CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 8, 3:09pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1049149205254737922
Something is happening.
rdm saysHas that happened?
Was this even discussed under Bush or Obama? NOPE.
Progress.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1049149205254737922
Something is happening.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 8, 3:42pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 8, 3:42pm
CBOEtrader says
It's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.
You can come out from under the bed Obama. It's getting safer.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1049149205254737922
Something is happening.
It's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.
You can come out from under the bed Obama. It's getting safer.
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rdm
2018 Oct 8, 4:18pm
Strategist says
So dismantling a testing facility that was crumbling to the point it had killed some of NK's scientists and had to be abandoned regardless of any agreement; this is progress that Trump has brought by elevating a fat murderous dictator to the level of a world leader and ham stringing the sanctions regime? Yes, being in love is a many splendored thing. But without love, this requires suspension of disbelief, but if it makes you "feel" safe and happy; good night, sweet dreams, it will all be over soon enough; Uncle Donnie will be by to kiss you goodnight and you know he loves all his sycophants almost as much as Kim.
It's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.
So dismantling a testing facility that was crumbling to the point it had killed some of NK's scientists and had to be abandoned regardless of any agreement; this is progress that Trump has brought by elevating a fat murderous dictator to the level of a world leader and ham stringing the sanctions regime? Yes, being in love is a many splendored thing. But without love, this requires suspension of disbelief, but if it makes you "feel" safe and happy; good night, sweet dreams, it will all be over soon enough; Uncle Donnie will be by to kiss you goodnight and you know he loves all his sycophants almost as much as Kim.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 8, 4:26pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 8, 4:26pm
rdm says
Allowing any inspection is progress.
If Donald and Kim really fall in love, it will be the greatest love story ever told.
Strategist saysIt's called progress towards a 100% dismantling of nukes.
So dismantling a testing facility that was crumbling to the point it had killed some of NK's scientists and had to be abandoned regardless of any agreement; this is progress that Trump has brought by elevating a fat murderous dictator to the level of a world leader and ham stringing the sanctions regime?
Allowing any inspection is progress.
If Donald and Kim really fall in love, it will be the greatest love story ever told.
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LastMan
2018 Oct 8, 4:50pm
CBOEtrader says
He cut taxes without cutting spending first. In fact, he's on a spending binge.
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/dems-take-gop-and-future-generations-cleaners
"The 2,232-page omnibus spending deal signed into law last week threw fiscal sanity out the window. While entitlement spending has continued to grow, the relative restraint in discretionary spending had provided hope that federal budget control was possible.
But that hope is now dashed under this president and Congress. The omnibus hiked discretionary spending 13 percent in a single year, while scraping the budget caps that were the singular achievement of reformers after the landmark 2010 election.
President Trump included substantial cuts in his recent budget, but signing the omnibus made a joke of his own proposals for fiscal restraint.
The GOP’s discretionary budget actions and the relentless rise of health care and retirement spending have put the budget on a catastrophic course.
Projections by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget show that, without reforms, deficits will top $1 trillion next year and $2.4 trillion by 2028, and continue growing after that."
I want to hear why a clear thinking adult would be anti-Trump.
He cut taxes without cutting spending first. In fact, he's on a spending binge.
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/dems-take-gop-and-future-generations-cleaners
"The 2,232-page omnibus spending deal signed into law last week threw fiscal sanity out the window. While entitlement spending has continued to grow, the relative restraint in discretionary spending had provided hope that federal budget control was possible.
But that hope is now dashed under this president and Congress. The omnibus hiked discretionary spending 13 percent in a single year, while scraping the budget caps that were the singular achievement of reformers after the landmark 2010 election.
President Trump included substantial cuts in his recent budget, but signing the omnibus made a joke of his own proposals for fiscal restraint.
The GOP’s discretionary budget actions and the relentless rise of health care and retirement spending have put the budget on a catastrophic course.
Projections by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget show that, without reforms, deficits will top $1 trillion next year and $2.4 trillion by 2028, and continue growing after that."
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 8, 5:10pm
TrumpingTits says
Nope--he wasn't going to jail no matter what happened. Worst case was he didn't become a Supreme Court Justice.
That's a job interview.
Yes but what we all saw on TV was a trial and not a job interview.
Nope--he wasn't going to jail no matter what happened. Worst case was he didn't become a Supreme Court Justice.
That's a job interview.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 8, 5:12pm
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
LeonDurham - you should read the book entitled "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting up a Generation for Failure". This could really change your life if you keep an open mind.
Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 8, 5:16pm
CBOEtrader says
Nope. That's a lie. It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.
The fact that you have to exaggerate and outright lie about it says everything that needs to be said.
LOL this guy is hilarious. Dude the article points out first hand sworn accounts of people previously intimate with Ford who contradict her story. Grassley all but states he expects more contradictions when Ford's lawyers finally share all the evidence he is demanding. He also directly accuses the lawyers of not believing Ford's story and purely using the situation as a political weapon.
^^ is this how you define credible? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Nope. That's a lie. It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.
The fact that you have to exaggerate and outright lie about it says everything that needs to be said.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 8, 5:18pm
CBOEtrader says
Did you miss the part about his shitty tax plan? Or did you purposely ignore it?
That's a wrap. Trump is weaker on environmental regulations in favor of economic expansion.
Did you miss the part about his shitty tax plan? Or did you purposely ignore it?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 8, 5:53pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 8, 5:53pm
I love the SNAP Food Box, what a great idea. This way we make sure kids get good food and not just Chips and Mac n' Cheese from Shanaynay and Luanne
Libbies love Farm Boxes too, they are always signing up for them at the Farmer's Market.
Libbies love Farm Boxes too, they are always signing up for them at the Farmer's Market.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 8, 5:57pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?
This way we make sure kids get good food and not just Chips and Mac n' Cheese from Shanaynay and Luanne
How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 8, 6:39pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 8, 6:39pm
LeonDurham says
You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?
How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?
You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 8, 6:41pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I've never met anyone named luanne
You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?
I've never met anyone named luanne
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2018 Oct 8, 8:05pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2018 Oct 8, 8:05pm
TrumpingTits says
It was an attempted character assassination. Well, at least now he will have something to remember liberals by, every time he judges a case in the future. Which is what probably scares feminists more than anything else.
LeonDurham saysA job interview is different from a trial.
Yes but what we all saw on TV was a trial and not a job interview.
It was an attempted character assassination. Well, at least now he will have something to remember liberals by, every time he judges a case in the future. Which is what probably scares feminists more than anything else.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2018 Oct 8, 8:09pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2018 Oct 8, 8:09pm
LeonDurham says
For your sake I hope English is your "second language", or even distant "third" because that would be the only legitimate excuse for not understanding English.
Do you understand the meaning of "credible"? It doesn't mean accurate, or truthful. Nigerian billionaire is credible too.
FBI report came out and said accusation is false, her best friends who she said were witnesses, all came back and said that they did not witness anything like that or saw anything like that.
Even Fox News called her credible FFS
For your sake I hope English is your "second language", or even distant "third" because that would be the only legitimate excuse for not understanding English.
Do you understand the meaning of "credible"? It doesn't mean accurate, or truthful. Nigerian billionaire is credible too.
FBI report came out and said accusation is false, her best friends who she said were witnesses, all came back and said that they did not witness anything like that or saw anything like that.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 9, 1:15am
CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 9, 1:15am
LeonDurham says
You are missing the point, probably because you still havent read the article and have no idea what we're talking about.
Ford's ex boyfriend and Fords own testimony as it changed over time each contradicts her testimony before Senate. These are facts. Try to keep up.
It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.
You are missing the point, probably because you still havent read the article and have no idea what we're talking about.
Ford's ex boyfriend and Fords own testimony as it changed over time each contradicts her testimony before Senate. These are facts. Try to keep up.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 9, 1:20am
CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 9, 1:20am
LeonDurham says
This is also inaccurate though. Ford's childhood friend stated the party "never happened". She has since testified that Ford's FBI friend pressured her to change her testimony to "not remembering a party like that". The point of this deception is specifically so people whose brains are soft for propaganda have the reaction you just had.
Congrats on being the propagandists' target audience.
It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.
This is also inaccurate though. Ford's childhood friend stated the party "never happened". She has since testified that Ford's FBI friend pressured her to change her testimony to "not remembering a party like that". The point of this deception is specifically so people whose brains are soft for propaganda have the reaction you just had.
Congrats on being the propagandists' target audience.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 9, 1:25am
CBOEtrader
2018 Oct 9, 1:25am
LastMan says
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.
We will see what his track record w the deficit is after he has had a chance to both cut spending and let the economy grow from the tax cuts.
The debt is 50 years in the making and just doubled under Obama, so let's keep this in some perspective. At some point giant crashes will clean out the system. Under which president ? That's like a giant game of Russian roulette
He cut taxes without cutting spending first. In fact, he's on a spending binge.
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.
We will see what his track record w the deficit is after he has had a chance to both cut spending and let the economy grow from the tax cuts.
The debt is 50 years in the making and just doubled under Obama, so let's keep this in some perspective. At some point giant crashes will clean out the system. Under which president ? That's like a giant game of Russian roulette
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 9:57am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 9:57am
I seem to remember the President NOT being happy with the omnibus bill.
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LastMan
2018 Oct 9, 4:32pm
CBOEtrader says
I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front. Usually politicians promise fiscal responsibility some time in the distant future; I'm not even sure he's doing that.
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.
I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front. Usually politicians promise fiscal responsibility some time in the distant future; I'm not even sure he's doing that.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 5:36pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 5:36pm
I'm so old, I remember an October not long ago when Obama, Hillary, the entire Democratic Party, and the Media was lecturing me about accepting the outcome of an election.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 5:52pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 5:52pm
Aphroman says
Completely missed the point.
Let me explain it special for you.
The Democrats spent the weeks before the election demanding that Trump Voters accept the outcome of the election.
They then spent the next two years trying to delegitimize Trump by any means necessary. They literally flipped their script 180 the day after the election. That's called gross hypocrisy.
www.youtube.com/embed/pJB0Ag72bEs
Two years later and the Trumpcucks are still bitter that Hillary received more votes. How sad is that?
Completely missed the point.
Let me explain it special for you.
The Democrats spent the weeks before the election demanding that Trump Voters accept the outcome of the election.
They then spent the next two years trying to delegitimize Trump by any means necessary. They literally flipped their script 180 the day after the election. That's called gross hypocrisy.
www.youtube.com/embed/pJB0Ag72bEs
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 7:03pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 9, 7:03pm
Aphroman says
I don't remember the Republicans, the Media, Big Tech, and all Academia trying to say Obama wasn't a real President, that his election was hacked by Russia, and that he was an actual fascist supported only by Racists.
Again, all the Forces of Influence in this country said in October 2016 that Trump and his supporters have to accept the election results, then spent the next two years "explaining" how he allegedly colluded with Putin to take over the US Election process.
Is turnabout suddenly NOT fair play?
I don't remember the Republicans, the Media, Big Tech, and all Academia trying to say Obama wasn't a real President, that his election was hacked by Russia, and that he was an actual fascist supported only by Racists.
Again, all the Forces of Influence in this country said in October 2016 that Trump and his supporters have to accept the election results, then spent the next two years "explaining" how he allegedly colluded with Putin to take over the US Election process.
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anonymous
2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm
LeonDurham says
PrivilegedtobeWhite saysStart with page 1 and keep going...LeonDurham - you should read the book entitled "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting up a Generation for Failure". This could really change your life if you keep an open mind.
Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm
LastMan says
Wall Street is the ultimate judge on the economy and economic policies. Wall Street has concluded "increasing spending while cutting taxes" will benefit the economy at this point in time.
I would go with Wall Street.
CBOEtrader saysI'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.
I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front.
Wall Street is the ultimate judge on the economy and economic policies. Wall Street has concluded "increasing spending while cutting taxes" will benefit the economy at this point in time.
I would go with Wall Street.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 9, 7:20pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 9, 7:20pm
Aphroman says
No Aphroman, no. It would be the Democrats who are bitter, having lost the election even though they got more votes.
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce saysI'm so old, I remember an October not long ago when Obama, Hillary, the entire Democratic Party, and the Media was lecturing me about accepting the outcome of an election.
Two years later and the Trumpcucks are still bitter that Hillary received more votes. How sad is that?
No Aphroman, no. It would be the Democrats who are bitter, having lost the election even though they got more votes.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 9, 7:55pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 9, 7:55pm
Aphroman says
That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.
Donald Trump claimed Obama was a foreign born Muslin to this day.
That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.
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Patrick
2018 Oct 9, 8:35pm
Patrick
2018 Oct 9, 8:35pm
Strategist says
Agreed. We don't need a nice president. We need an effective president, and we finally got one, somehow.
I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.
Agreed. We don't need a nice president. We need an effective president, and we finally got one, somehow.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 9:52am
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 9:52am
Aphroman says
I don't recall our sovereignty ever being questioned or even an issue.
Strategist saysAphroman saysDonald Trump claimed Obama was a foreign born Muslin to this day.
That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.
Most importantly is he good for our Sovereignty
I don't recall our sovereignty ever being questioned or even an issue.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 4:42pm
Patrick says
Why do Trump supporters keep pretending that peoples' objections to Trump are because he isn't "nice"?
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-lobbied-japans-abe-on-casino-for-adelson-report/
“It was totally brought up out of the blue,” one person briefed on the exchange told ProPublica/WNYC. “They were a little incredulous that he would be so brazen.” After the exchange in which Trump said he should consider Las Vegas Sands for a license, “Abe didn’t really respond, and said thank you for the information,” the person said"
I know, I know. But, but, but... Hillary's emails.
Agreed. We don't need a nice president. We need an effective president, and we finally got one, somehow.
Why do Trump supporters keep pretending that peoples' objections to Trump are because he isn't "nice"?
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-lobbied-japans-abe-on-casino-for-adelson-report/
“It was totally brought up out of the blue,” one person briefed on the exchange told ProPublica/WNYC. “They were a little incredulous that he would be so brazen.” After the exchange in which Trump said he should consider Las Vegas Sands for a license, “Abe didn’t really respond, and said thank you for the information,” the person said"
I know, I know. But, but, but... Hillary's emails.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 4:44pm
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
OK, read it. Still don't see the relevancy to me. Do you think I'm anti free speech?
Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.Start with page 1 and keep going...
OK, read it. Still don't see the relevancy to me. Do you think I'm anti free speech?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 4:46pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 4:46pm
LeonDurham says
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.
I know, I know, to mention that Democrats do it is whataboutery, and we shouldn't interrupt criticism of Trump with pesky reminders that every politician, including and especially Democrats, have done so.
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.
I know, I know, to mention that Democrats do it is whataboutery, and we shouldn't interrupt criticism of Trump with pesky reminders that every politician, including and especially Democrats, have done so.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 4:53pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I don't know of any time Obama did, and judging by Abe's reaction, it definitely appears that nobody had done anything remotely like it in the past.
Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.
I don't know of any time Obama did, and judging by Abe's reaction, it definitely appears that nobody had done anything remotely like it in the past.
Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:55pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:55pm
LeonDurham says
Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.
It seems to me you don't like him for whatever reason, and keep digging for something that makes him look bad. That's an obsession.
Why do Trump supporters keep pretending that peoples' objections to Trump are because he isn't "nice"?
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.
Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.
It seems to me you don't like him for whatever reason, and keep digging for something that makes him look bad. That's an obsession.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:56pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:56pm
LeonDurham says
I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
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