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There will be no "Blue Wave", change my mind!


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2018 May 14, 8:51am   79,869 views  699 comments

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Yesterday former Bill Clinton advisor Dick Morris told radio host on New York's AM 970 that he believes the "blue wave" that Democrats are expecting to give them back the Senate and House will not materialize, and polling has backed him up.

Last week, CNN's mid term poll showed that Democrats only had a 3 point advantage, well within the margin of error, and considering that CNN is known for "oversampling" Democrats in its own polls, this is troubling for the DNC.

Additionally, a recent poll from Reuters (left leaning) has shown that Millennials are leaving the Democrat party in droves. Democrat membership in the 18-34 demographic (the bread and butter of the DNC) dropped 9% over the past 2 years, most of them becoming "independents".

"I think that [Democrats] see fool’s gold in these scandals," Morris said. "They’re putting everything behind the Stormy Daniels scandal and Michael Cohen … and the country doesn’t give a damn."

That's when Morris dropped his prediction.

"There is no blue wave coming," Morris exclaimed. "There is a red wave. And what makes it red is the blood of the Democratic Party."

Here's my official take. I believe the GOP will LOSE seats in the house but will not give it up to the DNC. I believe the GOP will GAIN seats in the senate, keeping their majority. This will mean that Trump will have both houses of congress for his entire term.

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488   Shaman   2018 Oct 31, 8:56pm  

CBOEtrader says
Add in the fact that these polls are basically just propaganda to show how unpopular wrong thinkers are, and these polls are total garbage.


As politically motivated as I am, I have no time for polls. They always take way too long to complete, and I’m suspicious of the way the questions are worded as well as what they’ll do with the information.

In this age of real consequences for stated political opinions, I think most people are far more comfortable expressing their will in the privacy of a voting booth.
489   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 31, 11:31pm  

Goran_K says
I remember certain posters in this thread talking lots of shit about how Ossof was going to win big.


And when he lost, crowing about how the Democrats upped their vote total ---- in an open seat, with tons of positive media coverage of Ossof, and the most spent on any Congressional Race in US History.
490   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 4:58pm  

personal
491   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 4:59pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
And when he lost, crowing about how the Democrats upped their vote total ---- in an open seat, with tons of positive media coverage of Ossof, and the most spent on any Congressional Race in US History.


lol--it's a Republican +12 district!

Does more money change the demographics of the district?
492   Goran_K   2018 Nov 1, 5:01pm  

Hey Happy, be a little less "happy" about dishing out personal insults or I'm going to be happy to nuke your posts.

Thanks!
493   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:01pm  

HeadSet says
NS purpose is to give info that certain people want to hear, specifically fund raisers. Much easier to raise campaign funds for a likely winner than to raise campaign funds for a likely loser. Also, easier to get donations in general for the likely winner since many donors want to be investing in the winning side. Tell them what they want to hear all along, then claim the "probability" and "margin of error" excuses when outright wrong.


lol--so does 538 predicting Republican 85% likely to win Senate fit that narrative?

Why do Trump supporters hate facts and data?
494   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:03pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Anybody remember Handel is Georgia's 6th? And all the money and time Hollywood, the Media, and Big Tech was dumped into it?

"Neck and Neck" pollsters crowed. Some gave had Handel down by 10pts.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/20/new-forecast-only-a-55-chance-that-jon-ossoff-wins-georgias-house-special-election/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3c73d2103783

Hell some said Ossoff wasn't even going to have to go to runoff elections, getting more than 50% in the first round.

Handel won by 3.5 pts.


I remember. Nobody had Handel down 10 points. Handel was pretty much always ahead in the polling and was expected to narrowly win. All the money spent there actually hurt Ossof because it increased Republican turnout. And it's tough to win a Republican +12 district when folks turn out.
495   Goran_K   2018 Nov 1, 5:03pm  

lol, so spending more money on an election hurts the person spending the money?
hahaha ok
496   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:04pm  

personal
497   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:05pm  

personal
498   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:06pm  

personal
499   Goran_K   2018 Nov 1, 5:07pm  

Happy, seriously. Take a chill pill. You're way too fired up. Subtract the emotions, stop with the personal stuff. Thanks.
500   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:08pm  

antiforum
501   HappyGilmore   2018 Nov 1, 5:08pm  

antiforum
502   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 1, 5:29pm  

I provided a link to the pre-show gloating.

Sorry to miss the insults, it's a sure sign of #winning
503   rocketjoe79   2018 Nov 1, 6:04pm  

Someone aid to me: "Conservatives just get the message: show up, vote, and go home. It gets the job done."
505   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 1, 7:47pm  

Trends NOT looking good for Dems.

Less than 24 hours ago, it stood at 43% Rep to 41% Dem registered votes casting Early/Mail In ballots.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/24-million-early-voting-ballots-already-counted-more-2014-n929421

Does this look like there is a problem with enthusiasm, that the Republican Voters are all depressed and staying home?


As for "Our Models are based on History"


It looks a lot like 2014.

What happened in 2014? The Republicans gained 13 seats in the House and took back the Senate.
506   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 1, 7:51pm  

My Prediction:

Dems win a few toss up seats, maybe a surprise or two, but don't pickup more 20 seats in the House and probably less. I call low teens, mostly in states already largely blue like California perhaps the odd urban area in a Red State

The Dems that do win win by a hair and have to be very careful in the next couple of years. 1-2% winners can't be all "Impeach! Abolish ICE!"

Republicans win at least 2 Senate Seats.

The Dems are trying are Left instead of Centrist strategy in Arizona and Florida by running Sinema and Gillum. Their defeat will also empower normies and hurt the SJWs.

The increasing dependence on Dems for Urban Minorities and SFBA/Brooklyn/Boston Snobs will continue to hurt the party in the long run as the won't be able to Play to Peoria. Anything less than blaming Whites and Males will be seen as traitorous.
507   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Nov 1, 7:55pm  

After being sick today and trolling around the rest of the internet, I find articles by the MSM to be blatantly insulting. I also see that not only am I not the only one that sees it this way, but judging by online comments, so do a whole bunch of people including moderate and former liberal democrats.

Not sure my read is super correct, but I'd say do not be surprised if the polls are dead wrong, and the Republicans hold both the house and senate.
508   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 1, 8:31pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
I find articles by the MSM to be blatantly insulting.


Like this one: Nationalism is the Breaking Point for Suburban Voters.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%E2%80%99s-nationalism-is-breaking-point-for-some-suburban-voters-risking-gop-coalition/ar-BBPergt?li=BBnbfcP

I can't be the only one over 30 that learned the actual dictionary definition of Nationalism in School? If so, I seriously doubt "Nationalism" is a breaking point for anybody but a far leftist, or somebody freshly indoctrinated in College.
510   Goran_K   2018 Nov 2, 7:20am  

I actually thought the GOP would lose the house and voiced my concerns about historic trends.

But the early voting shows the GOP base is fired up. If the GOP keeps the house we should all send money to Feinstein for her next re-election campaign. Maybe some thank you letters to Liawatha Warren.
511   Malcolm   2018 Nov 2, 1:45pm  

I have just added my energy to the red wave.
512   HeadSet   2018 Nov 2, 2:37pm  

Why wouldn't there be a red wave?

Do most working American's (of any race) want unfettered illegal immigration to push down wages?

Do most American men want a society where any man can be accused at any time of sexual misconduct? We are not talking about actual victims or rape here, we are talking about a bar so low that a women touched on top of clothes is now a "survivor." Real women used to deal with an overly forward guy with a stern "hands off!" or a face slap. Virtually all men have in their youth have been in the situation where they slid a hand under a blouse during a necking session, only to have the girl pull your hand out, but continue to to neck anyway. Is this girl now a "survivor," since she did not want to go that far yet, and 10 years later she can testify against you for being a groper?

Do women want their men and male children to be subject to this new "misconduct" threat? Or for men to be come so passive that the only way she will be fondled is the grab his hand and place it on her boob?
513   Bd6r   2018 Nov 2, 3:35pm  

HeadSet says
Virtually all men have in their youth have been in the situation where they slid a hand under a blouse during a necking session, only to have the girl pull your hand out, but continue to to neck anyway. Is this girl now a "survivor," since she did not want to go that far yet, and 10 years later she can testify against you for being a groper?

A drunk woman grabbed my ass in a hotel a few years ago. Instead of just calmly informing her that I am not interested, I should have sued hotel, created organizations such as Hands Off My Ass, and started #myasstoo campaign on twatter.
514   Bd6r   2018 Nov 2, 3:35pm  

Aphroman says
Which Republicans are running on a platform different from Democrats wrt how society treats sexual activity?

Pussyhat and #metoo nonsense comes from D's
515   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 2, 3:38pm  

Voted R straight down the Ticket, from Governor to Senate to House/

And the County Commissioners are all Ds and the biggest sneaks ever. They wanted to give the Ethics Inspector "Discretion" to choose what cases to investigate instead of having to investigate everything.
516   Shaman   2018 Nov 2, 4:06pm  

“As of Wednesday, 43 percent of early voters are Republican and 41 percent are Democrats. ”
In 2014 (a banner year for the GOP), early voting was at 44% Republicans and 40% Democrats.
In 2016 where the Democrats picked up some seats, they were ahead in early voting 43%D to 40%R. But Trump still won!

But this is looking a lot closer to 2014 than 2016. Red Tsunami folks!
517   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 2, 6:02pm  

Republicans still have a 58,000+ lead in Florida among early/mail voters.

Also a slight lead in AZ

I hear the lead in TN and some other states is off the charts.
518   HeadSet   2018 Nov 2, 8:28pm  

Which Republicans are running on a platform different from Democrats wrt how society treats sexual activity?

You have got to be joking. After seeing the audience given by Democrat Senators to the absurd Ford accusations, you cannot realistically believe what you wrote.
520   CBOEtrader   2018 Nov 3, 6:34am  

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Which Republicans are running on a platform different from Democrats wrt how society treats sexual activity?

Pussyhat and #metoo nonsense comes from D's


The dear colleague letter title nine kangaroo courts are a product of the dems.

All the believe the accuser idiocy is destroying lives of youths w no power to fight back.
522   Booger   2018 Nov 3, 7:33pm  

What part of red wave don't Democrats understand?

523   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 3, 7:42pm  

Republican Lead in Florida, after yet another entire day of weekend early voting... remains about 58,000, unchanged
527   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 4, 4:49pm  

After the entire weekend of early voting in Swing State Florida, the Republicans are still up ~40,000 votes in early/mail voting. Naturally, Mail isn't delivered on Sunday.

Today was also the last day for Early Voting, it will be closed tomorrow (Monday). Mail-in ballots can continue to be received and counted, even after Election Day, so long as postmarked before November 6th.

So we should see the Mail in ballots that favor Republicans increase tomorrow and going forward.

Absolutely NO signs that Republicans are disgruntled or that Democrats are particularly enthusiastic.

Only two more days until Election Day.

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