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MrMagic
2019 Mar 13, 9:44pm
MrMagic
2019 Mar 13, 9:44pm
Just as a benchmark:
There are 387 total 737 Max planes worldwide. First ones were put into service in May 2017. We know airlines fly the same planes multiple times each day.
From Wiki:
..."After one year of service, 130 have been delivered to 28 customers, logging over 41,000 flights in 118,000 hours and flying over 6.5 million passengers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX
So, those stats were through May 2018. How many more flights have been taken since then?
And there have been two crashes in almost two years, both NOT in our country. There's been zero in the USA.
Hmmm...
HeadSet says
Yep...
...."U.S. airlines flew more than 7,600 flights in 737 MAX aircraft over the past month, according to an analysis by WUSA9. Southwest, which has 34 MAX 8 planes, flew more than American and United combined for a total of 4,043 flights between Feb. 12 - March 12."
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...7-da3b0bc1bde9
So, 7,600 fights in one month equals over 91,000 the past year in the USA without a crash. Would that be considered safe?
Meanwhile, 109 people died today in car crashes, 109 died yesterday, 109 the day before, 109 the day before that, 109 the day before that, etc...
If Trump was so concerned about the safety of Americans, why didn't he put a ground stop on cars?
There are 387 total 737 Max planes worldwide. First ones were put into service in May 2017. We know airlines fly the same planes multiple times each day.
From Wiki:
..."After one year of service, 130 have been delivered to 28 customers, logging over 41,000 flights in 118,000 hours and flying over 6.5 million passengers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX
So, those stats were through May 2018. How many more flights have been taken since then?
And there have been two crashes in almost two years, both NOT in our country. There's been zero in the USA.
Hmmm...
HeadSet says
Actually, his point "Meanwhile, the largest operators of the 737 MAX are US Carriers, with no crashes or incidents of course" is spot on.
Yep...
...."U.S. airlines flew more than 7,600 flights in 737 MAX aircraft over the past month, according to an analysis by WUSA9. Southwest, which has 34 MAX 8 planes, flew more than American and United combined for a total of 4,043 flights between Feb. 12 - March 12."
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...7-da3b0bc1bde9
So, 7,600 fights in one month equals over 91,000 the past year in the USA without a crash. Would that be considered safe?
Meanwhile, 109 people died today in car crashes, 109 died yesterday, 109 the day before, 109 the day before that, 109 the day before that, etc...
If Trump was so concerned about the safety of Americans, why didn't he put a ground stop on cars?
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WillPowers
2019 Mar 14, 12:43am
WillPowers
2019 Mar 14, 12:43am
This cuts both ways. Where as Trump was having fun at a campaign rally and his sane supporters know he doesn't actually mean get into a fight, Maxine Waters was very serious in her calls for harassment, to get in the face of anyone associated with Trump. Kathy Lee Gifford made a mock severed head of the president and held it up for all to see, inviting anyone in a sense to go through with her demented vision for our President.
Trump has a wonderful heart, unlike his opponents which are just mean spirited small minded people with little intellects that go around like they should be Hitler, and indeed they are at heart. Thank God, they aren't President.
That's what liberals don't get about Trump. They are fooled by the propaganda that paints him as being an evil tyrant, when in fact he is probably the first President who really cares about the people he represents.
What has Gavin Newson done for you if you live in CA. Another illegal immigrant, Gustavo Garcia who was deported twice and because of sanctuary state law, police couldn't notify ICE and have him deported again and that gave him the opportunity to go on a shooting rampage in Tulare County: https://thepoliticalinsider.com/california-sanctuary-law/
Trump has a wonderful heart, unlike his opponents which are just mean spirited small minded people with little intellects that go around like they should be Hitler, and indeed they are at heart. Thank God, they aren't President.
That's what liberals don't get about Trump. They are fooled by the propaganda that paints him as being an evil tyrant, when in fact he is probably the first President who really cares about the people he represents.
What has Gavin Newson done for you if you live in CA. Another illegal immigrant, Gustavo Garcia who was deported twice and because of sanctuary state law, police couldn't notify ICE and have him deported again and that gave him the opportunity to go on a shooting rampage in Tulare County: https://thepoliticalinsider.com/california-sanctuary-law/
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Onvacation
2019 Mar 14, 6:59am
Onvacation
2019 Mar 14, 6:59am
Kakistocracy says
Just callin' them like we see them.
Reducing the left to Commies, SJWs, Liars, Libbies, Libruls, Losers, Snowflakes, Socialists, etc
Just callin' them like we see them.
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Goran_K
2019 Mar 14, 7:17am
Goran_K
2019 Mar 14, 7:17am
Onvacation says
I’ll wait for someone to recommend just ONE moderate lefty that has any sway on MSM.
Kakistocracy saysReducing the left to Commies, SJWs, Liars, Libbies, Libruls, Losers, Snowflakes, Socialists, etc
Just callin' them like we see them.
I’ll wait for someone to recommend just ONE moderate lefty that has any sway on MSM.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Mar 14, 11:07am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Mar 14, 11:07am
If it's because of a government shut down then it's Nancy's fault.
I say fire all of the useless Gender confused freaks and the Centerpiece know nothing Title Nine morons over there and put the racist misogynist White Engineers back so America can be Great again.
People don't realize that Aeronautics be like it is, but it do. Let the people who know's how it is do what it does.
I say fire all of the useless Gender confused freaks and the Centerpiece know nothing Title Nine morons over there and put the racist misogynist White Engineers back so America can be Great again.
People don't realize that Aeronautics be like it is, but it do. Let the people who know's how it is do what it does.
101485
rdm
2019 Mar 14, 11:16am
Tenpoundbass says
OK now I get the attraction between Trump and Kim Jong un
https://inshorts.com/en/news/north-korea-claims-its-leader-kim-jongun-does-not-pee-poop-1504722737326
Trump doesn't barf he Lawyers to do it for him.
OK now I get the attraction between Trump and Kim Jong un
https://inshorts.com/en/news/north-korea-claims-its-leader-kim-jongun-does-not-pee-poop-1504722737326
101487
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 14, 11:44am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 14, 11:44am
jazz_music says
They can't do anything. It's not like they didn't know. It's almost impossible to forcibly hospitalize somebody beyond a brief stay, which I believe the Parkland Shooter already got.
Why Mass Shootings Keep Happening
They can't do anything. It's not like they didn't know. It's almost impossible to forcibly hospitalize somebody beyond a brief stay, which I believe the Parkland Shooter already got.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 14, 11:49am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 14, 11:49am
This whole article is wrong.
For starters, most mass shootings aren't in schools and not by kids. The ones that make the TV are.
The vast, vast majority of mass shootings happen in Chicago, Detroit, South Central, and usually don't involve kids.
But the wokeist most socially justified don't care, because that means they would have to criticize a protected oppressed minority they depend on for elections.
Instead, it is celebrated in pop culture. Got hollow points for the snitches! Rat ta tat tat like dis and like dat.
For starters, most mass shootings aren't in schools and not by kids. The ones that make the TV are.
The vast, vast majority of mass shootings happen in Chicago, Detroit, South Central, and usually don't involve kids.
But the wokeist most socially justified don't care, because that means they would have to criticize a protected oppressed minority they depend on for elections.
Instead, it is celebrated in pop culture. Got hollow points for the snitches! Rat ta tat tat like dis and like dat.
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Shaman
2019 Mar 14, 12:04pm
Shaman
2019 Mar 14, 12:04pm
1) Trump wasn’t the only one to create the shut down. Pelosi dug in her talons and refused to do anything resembling a compromise for all that time.
2)Boeing shouldn’t have released this software update until it was tested. They actually are to blame and will be the ones to get sued, not Trump or the government.
2)Boeing shouldn’t have released this software update until it was tested. They actually are to blame and will be the ones to get sued, not Trump or the government.
101490
zzyzzx
2019 Mar 14, 1:05pm
zzyzzx
2019 Mar 14, 1:05pm
Quigley says
Sued for how much? Doesn't an Ethoipan life have zero or negative value on the open market?
They actually are to blame and will be the ones to get sued,
Sued for how much? Doesn't an Ethoipan life have zero or negative value on the open market?
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MrMagic
2019 Mar 14, 1:34pm
MrMagic
2019 Mar 14, 1:34pm
jazz_music says
What do we know about Dan Diamond:
I write sharp takes on the health, policy and wonk news of the day.
..., and a social media junkie. Posts are eclectic; views are personal. Let me know what I've missed
Well Dan, you missed a bunch..
First, this article was written: Jun 18, 2015, 04:30am
jazz_music says
And there's where he twists the narrative. The majority of that 34,000 are suicides, by people who have mental issues and want to kill themselves. To try and lump them into "Mass Murders" is just more TDS on display.
jazz_music says
It doesn't matter if there's an increase, we're only talking about a handful of mentally deranged people doing these shootings in a population of 320 million. Crazy will ALWAYS be walking around.
Mass Shootings Are Rising. Here's How To Stop Them.
Dan Diamond
What do we know about Dan Diamond:
I write sharp takes on the health, policy and wonk news of the day.
..., and a social media junkie. Posts are eclectic; views are personal. Let me know what I've missed
Well Dan, you missed a bunch..
First, this article was written: Jun 18, 2015, 04:30am
jazz_music says
It's important to be clear here. Yes, mass shootings remain exceedingly rare compared to overall firearm deaths. (About 34,000 people died from being shot in 2013, versus 40-odd people killed in mass shootings.)
And there's where he twists the narrative. The majority of that 34,000 are suicides, by people who have mental issues and want to kill themselves. To try and lump them into "Mass Murders" is just more TDS on display.
jazz_music says
"While many mass shooters had mental-health problems," the researchers write, "there is no reason to believe that there has been an increase in mental illness rates in the last several years that could help explain the rise in mass shootings."
It doesn't matter if there's an increase, we're only talking about a handful of mentally deranged people doing these shootings in a population of 320 million. Crazy will ALWAYS be walking around.
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MrMagic
2019 Mar 14, 1:37pm
MrMagic
2019 Mar 14, 1:37pm
jazz_music says
So do I.
The Liberal media and their non-stop 24/7 OrangeManBad and TDS broadcasts and Republicans are evil added to the daily Liberal brainwashing by teachers.
Is it really a surprise?
Threat-Assessment Professionals Know Why Mass Shootings Keep Happening
So do I.
The Liberal media and their non-stop 24/7 OrangeManBad and TDS broadcasts and Republicans are evil added to the daily Liberal brainwashing by teachers.
Is it really a surprise?
101493
RWSGFY
2019 Mar 14, 3:13pm
RWSGFY
2019 Mar 14, 3:13pm
The recipy is basically the same as the one to stop mass homelessness: making it much easier to involuntary commit nutters into mental institutions.
PS. Of course, this recipy will be thoroughly ignored, because both homelessness and mass shootings are playing into pinko's hand: the former is an excuse for more taxation in the name of more "services", "affordable housing" and handsomly-payed bureaucracy to run it all, and the latter is an excuse to push for gun bans/confiscations, etc.
PS. Of course, this recipy will be thoroughly ignored, because both homelessness and mass shootings are playing into pinko's hand: the former is an excuse for more taxation in the name of more "services", "affordable housing" and handsomly-payed bureaucracy to run it all, and the latter is an excuse to push for gun bans/confiscations, etc.
101494
NDrLoR
2019 Mar 14, 3:23pm
NDrLoR
2019 Mar 14, 3:23pm
Hugolas_Madurez says
JFK - 10/31/63 The Community Mental Health Act
RFK - Immigration Act of 1965
making it much easier to involuntary commit a nutter into a mental institution.Leave it to democrats to give us two of the most destructive pieces of legislation of which they didn't have to suffer any consequences:
JFK - 10/31/63 The Community Mental Health Act
RFK - Immigration Act of 1965
101495
Reality
2019 Mar 14, 3:26pm
The article and the title prove the consequence of being bad at math.
Threat assessment on individual persons in the context of statistical phenomenon as lop-sided as mass-shooting is by definition nonsense! Out of roughly 350 million people, there are less than 35 mass shooting incidents in a year (of the variety that the author was talking about, not gang warfare in inner cities where guns are already banned). That's 10,000,000 to 1. Even if a professional assessment methodology has 99% accuracy (there are hardly any psycho profile method accurate enough to meet that hypothetical 99% accuracy), such an approach would result in 3.5 million false-positives when applied to 350 million population . . . i.e. rounding up 99,999+ who wouldn't become mass shooters for every 1 would be mass shooter! Good luck finding that 1 in 100,000+ all matching your profile.
Banning guns in order to prevent mass shooting is less clever than proposing banning food due to more than 10,000 choking incidents every year!
A far more effective way of stopping mass shooting is in fact encouraging ordinary people to conceal-carry: as the would-be mass shooters often were stopped by other people on site having guns! Comes to think of it, confronting criminal while armed with guns is what police do too! Except police can't be at all places at the same time, whereas concealed-carry private individuals have a much better chance of being at the right place at the right time to stop mass-shooters.
Don't ban guns; ban politicians who want to violate the Constitution! Every anti-gun politician has the blood of victims of mass-shootings and inner-city shooting victims on their hands: as they make up tyrannical laws that prevent law-abiding citizens from self-defense!
Threat assessment on individual persons in the context of statistical phenomenon as lop-sided as mass-shooting is by definition nonsense! Out of roughly 350 million people, there are less than 35 mass shooting incidents in a year (of the variety that the author was talking about, not gang warfare in inner cities where guns are already banned). That's 10,000,000 to 1. Even if a professional assessment methodology has 99% accuracy (there are hardly any psycho profile method accurate enough to meet that hypothetical 99% accuracy), such an approach would result in 3.5 million false-positives when applied to 350 million population . . . i.e. rounding up 99,999+ who wouldn't become mass shooters for every 1 would be mass shooter! Good luck finding that 1 in 100,000+ all matching your profile.
Banning guns in order to prevent mass shooting is less clever than proposing banning food due to more than 10,000 choking incidents every year!
A far more effective way of stopping mass shooting is in fact encouraging ordinary people to conceal-carry: as the would-be mass shooters often were stopped by other people on site having guns! Comes to think of it, confronting criminal while armed with guns is what police do too! Except police can't be at all places at the same time, whereas concealed-carry private individuals have a much better chance of being at the right place at the right time to stop mass-shooters.
Don't ban guns; ban politicians who want to violate the Constitution! Every anti-gun politician has the blood of victims of mass-shootings and inner-city shooting victims on their hands: as they make up tyrannical laws that prevent law-abiding citizens from self-defense!
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WillPowers
2019 Mar 14, 6:19pm
WillPowers
2019 Mar 14, 6:19pm
Freedom and liberty have a price. If you are for free speech then you have to put with hearing shit you don't like, like this news propaganda piece you shared which glosses over the facts and fails to show both sides of the argument. Like in the case of Roger, who police "let Rodger go" twice before he went on a shooting rampage. Maybe the police didn't have a good reason to arrest him. Maybe that would have been a violation of his civil liberties. The article doesn't explain, only leaves the impression in the readers mind that this could have been avoided.
That is the price of having freedoms. Perhaps you are for a police state where no one has the right to own a gun. The article advocates for gun confiscation laws. Maybe you are for a Soviet style democracy where the citizens have the right to shut up and eat crow.
Remember what Benjamin Franklin said about trading your freedoms for safety. Those who so choose safety over freedom deserve neither freedom nor safety. I paraphrase.
That is the price of having freedoms. Perhaps you are for a police state where no one has the right to own a gun. The article advocates for gun confiscation laws. Maybe you are for a Soviet style democracy where the citizens have the right to shut up and eat crow.
Remember what Benjamin Franklin said about trading your freedoms for safety. Those who so choose safety over freedom deserve neither freedom nor safety. I paraphrase.
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RWSGFY
2019 Mar 14, 6:58pm
RWSGFY
2019 Mar 14, 6:58pm
jazz_music says
Except they didn't:
Read the other thread about Australia and how they stopped mass shootings
Except they didn't:
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PeopleUnited
2019 Mar 14, 7:04pm
PeopleUnited
2019 Mar 14, 7:04pm
jazz_music says
Australia is not USA. It is pedantic to think to even compare the two.
The quote above said "it seems there is no debate anymore." I'd be happy to debate that.
mass shootings are being used as propaganda to distract people from the real problems of the modern world. The rich contol (nearly) everything that is why the rich are funding gun control propaganda. They want to be the only ones with guns.
Read the other thread about Australia and how they stopped mass shootings completely with a few laws.
Because we have these examples it seems that there is no debate any more.
Just do it or not.
Maybe tweak the Australian approach.
Does everything have to be an unsolvable problem for poor America? With endless debates and any solutions never good enough?
Just because profitability for political donors is involved?
Australia is not USA. It is pedantic to think to even compare the two.
The quote above said "it seems there is no debate anymore." I'd be happy to debate that.
mass shootings are being used as propaganda to distract people from the real problems of the modern world. The rich contol (nearly) everything that is why the rich are funding gun control propaganda. They want to be the only ones with guns.
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Goran_K
2019 Mar 14, 7:41pm
Goran_K
2019 Mar 14, 7:41pm
Hugolas_Madurez says
The truth, nothing but the truth.
The recipy is basically the same as the one to stop mass homelessness: making it much easier to involuntary commit nutters into mental institutions.
PS. Of course, this recipy will be thoroughly ignored, because both homelessness and mass shootings are playing into pinko's hand: the former is an excuse for more taxation in the name of more "services", "affordable housing" and handsomly-payed bureaucracy to run it all, and the latter is an excuse to push for gun bans/confiscations, etc.
The truth, nothing but the truth.
101500
Ceffer
2019 Mar 14, 8:22pm
Ceffer
2019 Mar 14, 8:22pm
Typhoid HEYYOU is on a vectored rampage! Good thing he doesn't have ebola or we'd have to get out the flame thrower.
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Ceffer
2019 Mar 14, 8:25pm
Ceffer
2019 Mar 14, 8:25pm
What a relief. I thought it was 'Duckmeister' and Iwog was coming back. Iwog's carcass is probably in a ditch somewhere, beaten to death by an Immense Hirsute Lesbian he insulted into spittle tossing rage.
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steverbeaver
2019 Mar 14, 9:47pm
steverbeaver
2019 Mar 14, 9:47pm
Well make sure to target practice. Sad marksmanship is inexcusable.
101505
RWSGFY
2019 Mar 14, 11:00pm
RWSGFY
2019 Mar 14, 11:00pm
AOC and "brilliantly" don't belong in the same sentence. By fucking definition.
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Ceffer
2019 Mar 15, 1:27am
Ceffer
2019 Mar 15, 1:27am
Trump's tiny little fingers let him pick his nose really well for about a quarter of a centimeter up. The rest, he just has to blow out like the rest of us.
Trump flips the bird at people all the time, but nobody can tell, they think it's a knuckle.
Trump flips the bird at people all the time, but nobody can tell, they think it's a knuckle.
101507
Ceffer
2019 Mar 15, 1:30am
Ceffer
2019 Mar 15, 1:30am
Hey, give her a handful of Valiums and she can be stage managed to read from a programmed script! Congrats, AOC. Obama needed nose candy and a teleprompter, AOC just needs be brought down a bit. Maybe some kind of heroin lite for the mania.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2019 Mar 15, 3:22am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2019 Mar 15, 3:22am
In the third video, she blasts him about spelling errors and gives him detention!
101510
Tenpoundbass
2019 Mar 15, 6:11am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Mar 15, 6:11am
"Like I know a lot about banking and finances and stuff you know?" Actual AOC Quote.
101511
Onvacation
2019 Mar 15, 6:12am
Onvacation
2019 Mar 15, 6:12am
jazz_music says
Yep. Please don't take away the ability for law abiding citizens to defend themselves.
The criminals are the people who'll get a gun no matter what.
Yep. Please don't take away the ability for law abiding citizens to defend themselves.
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