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ThreeBays says

The elderly

are more likely to be sick in the first place and by actuarial averages more likely to die than young people. It's always been that way.

https://babylonbee.com/news/more-homeschoolers-arriving-at-college-woefully-unprepared-for-gender-studies

#fuckthatfatfuck

That was a very boring trailer. What’s it about? A broken mechanical pinwheel?

He did better on Guantanamo one.

I was hoping to see reversal of planet of the apes with monkeys dying off and humans ruling it.

Perfect dream movie for Commie, Hopeless God Hating, Baby Killing libatards and demotards...

georgeliberte says

https://babylonbee.com/news/more-homeschoolers-arriving-at-college-woefully-unprepared-for-gender-studies

This was funniest part:

“ "Parents are an outdated relic of a patriarchal society," said Dr. Pavlovix. "They are endangering our kids and need to be removed from the home immediately."

OccasionalCortex says

homeschooling is a threat to children’s rights

It is a threat to a black child's right to a worthless "education" steeped in victimhood and pathology.

"An unprecedented number of poorly educated kids arrive at college actually identifying with their biological sex," said Dr. Xindri Pavlovix. "It's a concerning trend. These kids aren't learning the basic difference between biological sex and gender expression or identity. I asked one of my male students what his gender identity and preferred pronouns were, and he just stared at me with a dumb look on his face. Unbelievable!"

"Unbelievable" is right--you wonder if it's only a parody, but with a name like "Dr. Xindri Pavlovix" I'm sure it's dead serious. I use "it's" because it's impossible to determine correct gender from such a name.

If home schooling promotes WS, it means parents are all WS, and therefore education department is not addressing their needs properly.

@APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch

If you care about accuracy of information that you spread, your bullshit radar should've gone up right there. See, these results are so very different from results of all other (also informal) experiments that you just can't help but wonder. This study doesn't just show "no effect". Instead, it shows more than double increase in mortality (wow!!). That's hard to explain by side effects because hydroxychloroquine is relatively safe (safer than chloroquine at least). Does the drug cooperate with the virus?! It's not clear whether the drug is effective, but harmful to the point of more then doubling death rate?? What's the deal here?

You may have asked yourself all that if you cared about accuracy of information that you spread.

I looked at the study, which immediately clarified things. There's crucial info missing: there's no indication why some patients where on hydroxychloroquine, while others weren't, and their respective conditions. Same hospital system, same protocols, and it wasn't a test for the drug because the analysis is retrospective. Why some patients were on it while others weren't?

My guess: those who were given hydroxychloroquine were in much worse condition to begin with. It was a "grasp-at-straw" situation, which would explain 1) why some people were on it while others weren't 2) higher death rate which doesn't really say much about the drug.

In absence of other information, I'd say: while situation with hydroxychloroquine is not clear, the "study" is indeed a solid garbage material.

NDrLoR says

ThreeBays says

The elderly

are more likely to be sick in the first place and by actuarial averages more likely to die than young people. It's always been that way.

That and this....

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Old people are stupidly stubborn as hell

This isn't hyperbole. I've legit seen electric cart oldies with an oxygen tank in the basket rolling around the grocery store in the last 7 days. This is what we're shutting down for? The one fuck that drags it back to a nursing home or retirement community? Wipes out 70-80% of them in a week. This is where we're at.

I'd just wish some people would admit they just want to politicize this instead of lying out their asses. Crazy how so many people are such pussies because one man won an election. Let's just fucking politicize this 1,000% at this point for the losers that have their dick tucked between their legs.

Curious that you chose not to go with daily new cases which is more reliable and more current (death lags).

Basically as disingenuous as I acuse the msm of being, esp considering nearly every chart posted here has been daily new cases.

Nonsensical analysis. The virus is supposed to spread so that folks can develop herd immunity. We know that deaths in Sweden are primarily amongst the sick, elderly population. The virus is not going away, Shall we all shelter in place forever?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kimberly-clarks-tissue-sales-surge-114531000.html

Tissue sales help Kimberly-Clark beat quarterly results

Kimberly-Clark Corp said on Wednesday sales of tissue and toilet paper rose 13% in the first quarter as consumers stocked up in preparation for the coronavirus pandemic, helping the company beat Wall Street estimates for profit and sales.

The company, however, suspended its forecast for the year citing uncertainties caused by the health crisis that has killed at least 177,000 people globally, including over 45,000 in the United States.

Kimberly-Clark makes several pulp-based products, such as Cottonelle toilet paper, Kleenex facial tissue and Kotex feminine hygiene products, a majority of which, were in high demand as consumers stocked up before the lockdowns to curb the spread of the virus.

Volumes increased 14% in its consumer tissue segment with sales of $1.7 billion, the company said. Sales in the personal care business, that includes diapers and feminine hygiene products, rose 6% to $2.4 billion.

"We increased investments in our business and our market positions remain broadly healthy," Chief Executive Officer Mike Hsu said in a statement.

The company's shares rose 2% to $142 in trading before the bell.

Procter & Gamble Co , which also makes Pampers diapers and Charmin toilet papers, said it had seen a rise in demand for cleaning products including detergents and dish soaps as consumers stayed at home and did their laundry and dishes more often.

As demand rose, several supermarkets have limited purchases per customer and reduced hours as they struggle to stock up shelves.

Organic sales of Kimberly-Clark's consumer products, which exclude effects of currency fluctuations and acquisitions, rose 11% in North America.

"A combination of increased consumer demand for our products and strong execution by our teams is reflected in our first quarter results," Hsu said.

Total net sales for the three-months ended March 31 rose about 8% to $5.01 billion. Analysts were expecting sales of $4.89 billion, according to IBES data from Refinitiv.

Excluding one-time items, the company earned $2.13 per share, well above market estimate of $1.98.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/swedish-coronavirus-no-lockdown-model-proves-lethal-by-hans-bergstrom-2020-04

Doesn't seem like such a good idea so far...

Nonsense. COVID-19 primarily affects the sick elderly population. Protecting this population, but not by shutting down the entire economy, is sensible. Unlike with the flu, immunity to which was developed at an earlier age when a functional immune system existed in this population, as with everything else, the immune system turns to crap with age, and so a novel pathogen wreaks havoc in the elderly population. Subtract out these fatalities, and COVID-19 is as deadly as the flu, and even less so for children.

COVID-19 will always be with us. We cannot shut down the economy forever. We do not do this with the flu, which killed 80,000 primarily elderly Americans in 2017.

Thanks for the link.

elliemae says

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/swedish-coronavirus-no-lockdown-model-proves-lethal-by-hans-bergstrom-2020-04

Doesn't seem like such a good idea so far...

But it still doesn't negate this part of the article:

Now that COVID-19 is running rampant through nursing homes and other communities, the Swedish government has had to backpedal. Others who may be tempted by the “Swedish model” should understand that a defining feature of it is a higher death toll.

I don't like death. I may come across as an ass here from time to time. But this situation is known. We can try our best to prevent sickness to those most at risk, but our current model is devastating in other realms of life. Not just economically. It's nature, I'm not sure why humans think we can control it.

willywonka says

We do not do this with the flu, which killed 80,000 primarily elderly Americans in 2017.

Many of whom were vaccinated.... This is a manufactured crisis at this point and I'm still trying to figure out the reason why.

WookieMan says

Many of whom were vaccinated.... This is a manufactured crisis at this point and I'm still trying to figure out the reason why.

Follow the money. Large, incompetent companies were bailed out.

WookieMan says

Many of whom were vaccinated.... This is a manufactured crisis at this point and I'm still trying to figure out the reason why.

Yes, the flu vaccine is not very effective in the elderly, unfortunately. Pushing on a string.

rd6B says

Follow the money. Large, incompetent companies were bailed out.

For sure they were bailed out. I'm still convinced this is bigger/higher than that though. The numbers don't add up. The reaction doesn't compute with the virus and what it's doing. This really is indisputable at this point. We're halfway to a deadly flu season without a vaccine. So what? Mathematically we have more unhealthy people that would die from these types of things. Who cares? It's a new virus, but it's 24/7 on the news. Commercials are now all Covid-19. It's fucked up.

Kimberly-Clark Corp said on Wednesday sales of tissue and toilet paper rose 13% in the first quarter as consumers stocked up in preparation for the coronavirus pandemic, helping the company beat Wall Street estimates for profit and sales.

Wow, so toilet paper manufacturing is one of those industries that did not go down the shitter..........

https://spectator.us/forget-china-mad-lululemon-art-director/

Virus.

Airborne.

Hospitals not overwhelmed.

~60% deaths of a bad flu season (yes, going higher).

"Experts" on new virus tank economy.

The left blames one person... why is that?

WTF does this have to do with masks and PPE?

It's kind of fun watching people sink into the quicksand. They're at the chin right about now. Hopefully the last turd thrown at the wall doesn't destroy us.

Tim Aurora says

It’s certainly fair game to highlight that the president played down the emerging crisis for weeks.

I'm not defending Trumps dishonesty when I say the following in fact I think you know it's one of the things I find most repulsive about him.

But having said that, I think the reason he lied about the situation was a combination of delusional thinking combined with a desire to not freak the stock market out, which was tanking. He sees the stock market as a score card on his Presidency, so he was more than willing to lie or exaggerate if it might mitigate the ensuing crash.

A more cynical person might say that he was talking it up to give his friends more time to sell, that is at those last stages where the lies were the most absurd.

The whole "I knew it was a pandemic all along, is the kind of thing that will go in to the history books as representative of his Presidency and his personality.

Note: I'm not paying for WAPO right now. So I can't read that, but I take it the democrats made a misleading ad.

It seems as if this will need to be judged over the entire course of the the virus, months/years, pre-vaccine. Whether this method of dealing with the pandemic was the right or wrong decision remains to be seen. There are lots of factors that will need to be considered, not the least universal healthcare and a nanny state. So there may not be direct comparisons to many other countries. None the less "the Swedish method" may be of great value in determining the best way to cope with other future pandemics.

rdm says

It seems as if this will need to be judged over the entire course of the the virus, months/years, pre-vaccine.

This will most certainly happen and you are correct. But (pun intended) the reaction almost certainly has been batshit crazy. The half dead people that avoid this round are getting it the next round and dying. And then they'll get vaccinated and more half dead people will die because flu style vaccines aren't that effective. We have a new flu strain now. We slowed the initial onslaught that "may" have overwhelmed hospitals. We know we can handle it. Time to get over the media hyped fear of something we cannot control.

WookieMan says

We have a new flu strain now.

To be clear, we have a new "cold" (SARS) strain. This is a long game, for sure...

EBGuy says

To be clear, we have a new "cold" (SARS) strain

Correct. I have been brainwashed by Trump to call it the flu. I'm his little puppet. Even though I think he's getting shit advice and maybe harmful advice on purpose and has kind of botched this in my opinion.

It is really hard to not compare it to the flu though. We've had less deaths than a bad flu year without a vaccine. What is the big deal? We've likely had less flu deaths now because of this as well. I still struggle to wrap my head around WTF is going on right now. Nothing adds up.

WookieMan says

It is really hard to not compare it to the flu though. We've had less deaths than a bad flu year without a vaccine. What is the big deal? We've likely had less flu deaths now because of this as well. I still struggle to wrap my head around WTF is going on right now. Nothing adds up.

I hear ya. I'm going to start another thread on this issue.
But to be clear, the major points of entry on the Left Coast were shutdown pretty quickly and haven't reopened. We've been sheltering for over a month now.
NYC is dense (and expensive) so that may be the combination that sparked their catastrophic cascade. And also, the subways may have been a vector of transmission and distribution, though there have been criticisms of that paper (PDF).

It's funny Obama's administration "handed Trump's team detailed pandemic response plans" but didn't think to stockpile supplies? Or maybe put into place long-term plans to insource manufacturing of critical pandemic supplies? Or tighten security at the southern border so we can know who is coming and going?

Sounds like a combination of fake news and selectively picking "facts." Among all the western countries, Trump was very early in shutting down flights from Wuhan — against the wishes of the WHO and to outcries of racism from the fake-news media. He was far out ahead of Pelosi and De Blasio, for example.

Approaching with LOGIC and rational is far from ignoring. Especially with the demotard and libotard owned media he is playing and beating like unwanted red headed stepchildren at every turn....

CCP is asshoe.
We need to throw out of office their American conspirators and hound them into the dustbin of history.

logic says

It's amazing how Trump can do no wrong.

Trump can never do any wrong Because the scumbag crazy commie stupid Liberals are doing all of the wrong doing for him.

If they would just sit their crooked corrupt asses down and shut the fuck up. Then they would know Trump succeeds at everything he does.
And IF and that's a very rare fucking "IF" let me tell ya! If he does fail or screw up, we can then have the clarity of blame, fault and reason.
We don't need CNN and the But Hurt TDS society narrating Trump's wrong doing. It's just fucking crass, so shut up and stop it.

Because... Well... Quite frankly they aren't even qualified to make that distinction. Trump has proved he could cure cancer, and the Democrat lawmakers would outlaw the procedure.

Facts would be nice. Fiction based left opinion, not so much.

logic says

Funnier still is that Trump had three years to do all those things you say Obama didn't do.

Or maybe there were no plans? Or maybe the plans were so impractical that Obama, too, decided to ignore them. Or maybe the entire article is just part of the never-ending smear campaign.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html

I wish Trump had kept right on ignoring the advisors who wanted him to shut everything down. Looks like Sweden did exactly that and has wound up coming through this Covid crisis without all the economic pain and social unrest and not even as many deaths as the good old USA.

For decades the Left has been pointing to Sweden as a model for the US. Will they keep this sentiment now that their pet pandemic has been exposed for the hoax it is?

Interestingly, Dr. Fauci predicted in 2019 that the USA WOULD HAVE TO FACE A PANDEMIC SHORTLY!
And it was he that authorized the $3.5 million dollar stipend to the Wuhan lab in 2015 for Corona Virus research that was BANNED in the USA.
Seems super fishy.