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I guess if he were holding an AK-47 he would qualify as being 'barely armed youth of good character'.

NoCoupForYou says

richwicks says

No reason to shoot him. His hands were up - that is, if the story was true.

The last time we heard Hands Up, Don't Shoot, it was a bald faced lie. I believed it at the time.

I know - there was a body cam. So if the footage never shows up, his hands were up and he posed no threat.

I'm not some lefty lunatic after all - but I can't see how the police officer could be "fearing for his life" when he's in a car - if the guy was reaching for his pocket, that's another matter. If the guy was provably looting, F him - it doesn't justify killing him, I'm just saying I don't care that he's dead.

We find out in 45 days what happened - that's how long they have to come up with a story, and how long they hold on to the video footage.

Don't reflexively take sides. I haven't taken a side here yet, and I won't for at least 45 days.

Shooting looters is moral, legal, and ethical.

Who cares about the infection rate? The fatality rate has plummeted. This virus is about as non existent as you can get and people are over it.

jazz_music says

Sean Monterrosa

joshuatrio says

Who cares about the infection rate? The fatality rate has plummeted. This virus is about as non existent as you can get and people are over it.

We are still averaging about 1000 deaths a day in the US from this virus, the fatality rate is not as important as the death count and the virus is definitely not "non-existent".

He wasn’t black, 0 riots.

Tenpoundbass says

That would be optimal for America's survival but we all know it's bullshit and a political hoax.

Not a hoax.

Tenpoundbass says

This last weekend should wipe out the whole Democrat demographic from 16 to 35

Most of the states on the list where the virus is spreading the fastest are Republican & conservative in their politics. I'd be more concerned about those people if I were you.

elliemae says

Most of the states on the list where the virus is spreading the fastest are Republican & conservative in their politics.

Who cares where it spreads? Deaths are all that matters. 50% plus of deaths nationwide are from left/democratic leaning states. If not outright blue. I'm not sure your point.

He was just an innocent aspiring construction worker with a hammer.

That kid must have left his “white privilege” at the door.

HEYYOU says

Go ahead & prepare for the death & destruction of America,that your racism,Fascism,hatred & general misery with your lives will bring to you. What will light the fuse?
Thoughts & prayers in advance.

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1268716877355810818

Dont understand what your statements have to do with the video.

BayArea says

He was just an innocent aspiring construction worker with a hammer.

Surprised. I was assuming he was an honors student.

marcus says

Is this your frontyard, marcus?

marcus says

Are you joking? Biden is guilty or is accused of every single thing that Trump as been accused of.

Senile and out of his mind? CHECK!
Molesting Women? Check!
Corrupt? CHECK!
Working with another nation to win the election? CHECK!

The man is an (apparently) senile old man with dementia that got his son on the board of Burisma in Ukraine which is a job he's 100% unqualified, for but got paid $50,000 a month to "do", who has accusations of sexual harassment AT THE TIME HE WAS ALLEGEDLY HARASSING. There is actually credible evidence!

www.youtube.com/embed/PMib65Vqk4I

The very first thing that Trump will do in a debate with Biden will be to ask him point blank "Are you senile?"

The "debates" between the Butcher of Libya and Trump I ignored. THESE I will watch. He is literally the worst possible candidate they could have run. Anybody else could have done better.

jazz_music says

That’s 3213 people saying that they regret voting for trump

Even if that was one county in a swing state, 3,200 people doesn't even move the fucking needle. What is the point of this post/comment? No one can regret voting for Hillary because she lost, so topics like this are kind of silly.

socal2 says

Democrats deserve to lose for an entire generation for the racial divisions they have cynically exploited for political gain.

They've been doing this since at least the civil war.

They did create the KKK. The original KKK wasn't so terrible, they were just white men afraid of black men. They weren't necessarily hostile toward them, but they put up with no criminality or "retribution" - but it became repressive.

I suspect we're gonna hear a lot more "I was a Republican, then I realized Trump was Orange Man Bad right after the Mueller Report found nothing and Impeachment failed. Now I'm Ridin' With Biden, because 44 Years in Government means he's the REAL Swamp Draining Reformer we need"

WookieMan says

No one can regret voting for Hillary because she lost, so topics like this are kind of silly.

People that have learned that Hillary Clinton was the Butcher of Iraq who brought back slavery to that nation, and learned she voted for the "Authorization to Use Force in Iraq" - and didn't know this when they voted for that thing, regret it.

People are not generally stupid or sociopathic, they are ignorant. No sin in being ignorant, we all start out that way.

Tim Aurora says

You still do not get it. Have you ever talked to the blacks in the hood and how police harrases them. I have talked and I have stories to tell. It is not just one person killed. It is about Police treating Blacks as "shit"

PeopleUnited says

people are fixated on the murder of one black person, and if another black person is murdered in the next 90 days the crazies will likely burn every major city to the ground. People are insane I guess.

Fixed it for you!

Facts matter https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-is-america-being-torn-apart-by-a-total-complete-but-provable-lie

From the article:

“What exactly are the numbers?
We found the numbers and we're going to go through them with you in some detail because it's worth it.
Since 2015, The Washington Post has maintained a comprehensive database of fatal police shootings in this country. Last year, The Post logged a total of 1,004 killings.
Of the 802 shootings in which the race of the police officer and the suspect was noted, 371 of those killed were white, 236 were black. The vast majority of those killed were not, in fact, unarmed; the vast majority were armed. And African-American suspects were significantly more likely to have a deadly weapon than white suspects, yet more white suspects were killed.
This is not genocide. It's not even close to genocide. It is laughable to suggest it is.
Overall, there were a total of precisely 10 cases in the United States last year, according to The Washington Post, in which unarmed African- Americans were fatally shot by the police. There were nine men and one woman.
Now, as we said, a lot is at stake. The country is at stake. So we want to take the time now to go through these case by case, into the specifics.....”

Fortwaynemobile says

That kid must have left his “white privilege” at the door.

Hispanic...

Tim Aurora says

Although half of the people shot and killed by police are white, black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans.

Which doesn’t mean anything unless you control for likelihood to commit crime.

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/raceinc.html

Blacks are incarcerated at 5x the rate of whites. Assuming all races have equal chance of coming into contact with police due their criminal behavior where they might be shot, I would expect the police shooting rate of blacks would be 5x higher then whites.

The fact that it’s only 2x indicates there’s some other factor. One could be police racism... against whites.

BayArea says

He was just an innocent aspiring construction worker with a hammer.

He was just out jogging...

BayArea says

The white on black AND black on white plots are essentially overlaid. That’s a complete lie. Black on white violence is many multiples higher as has been posted many times on this forum.

First this report leaves out fatal violent crimes. Blacks are overrepresented in crime across the board but it gets more skewed as the crime gets more violent. So leaving out murder is buries the lead a little.

Second, these numbers seem to use "non reported" estimates, allowing for god only knows what type of modeling to assume statistics.

Third, blacks are still committing 6 times as many black on white crimes as white on black in this study. That chart literally buries the lead by zooming out and using % of total white (and black) population victimized by the other. The actual stats also listed are 6 times as many black on white crime of this category.

Forth, even these stats show black commit more of the deadly weopon type of attacks...begging the question of what is included in these stats.

Actual murder and aggrivated assault interracial crime from the fbi are more clear. These stats and their representation appear to be cherry picked to hide the obvious black crime stats.

Still though, its nice that the stats have dropped over the years which perhaps is something we should remind the black lives matter protesters.

Tim Aurora says

Even after Mueller report confirming that Russia interfered and hacked,

Mueller never confirmed this. He accepted the existing opinion and admitted he never analyzed the DNC server

Tim Aurora says

Gaslighting -

socal2 says

Why do black people keep electing these progressive racists that treat them so badly?

Yep. And people LOVE to be lied to.

Tim Aurora says

Although half of the people shot and killed by police are white, black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans.

Per police encounter a black is far less likely to be shot by police.

Police brutality will be a joke of an issie as long as blacks commit 6 to 10x their proportional rate of violent crime.

Show up at a crowd yelling Yo Fuck the Police!

You get what you get.

I would throw my kids out of the house, if I knew they were going to these riots, and committing lawlessness.

They are not peaceful protesters, they are obstructing justice, they are blocking and covering for the looters, shooters, stabbers, rapists, arsonist, and in general trouble making Commie Shits.

I'm sorry but your kids don't have my permission to conspire or be conscripted into the Anarchist army to destroy my town. They have threatened to burn people out of their homes.

What kind of human being even shows up to a protest like that. Mow all of the mother fuckers down, I say.
There goes America's low IQ problem in one full swoop. Those of us with brighter and smarter kids, will be able to compete, just wipe out the next generation of the whole knuckle dragging gene pool Bravo!

HEYYOU says

This should end well.

How many here are in favor of a Revolution/Civil war?
400,000,000 guns & it only takes one bullet at the proper time to set off a bloody disagreement. Of course massive gun blood shed in the streets of America will not affect RepCons' set of living arrangements.

This is not true at all. It took a heavily biased, horribly written news article that a poster labeled with an exaggerated title.

Tim Aurora says

Let me refer you the article that Tucker is referring

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

From the original article

Black Americans are killed at a much higher rate than white Americans
Although half of the people shot and killed by police are white, black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate.



PeopleUnited says

“What exactly are the numbers?
We found the numbers and we're going to go through them with you in some detail because it's worth it.
Since 2015, The Washington Pos...

Clearly not a problem for Democrats. Otherwise they’d take me up on removing the availibiity of probably cause items police can use to stop people, vastly over benefitting low income communities.

The Democrats just want the rage to perpetuate. They don’t actually want to fix anything and really don’t even care.

BayArea says

Is this fake news?

The white on black AND black on white plots are essentially overlaid. That’s a complete lie. Black on white violence is many multiples higher as has been posted many times on this forum.

Not only that, what about all those terrible white supremecists out there! They’re like ninjas....they don’t even register on the chart!

WookieMan says

Who cares where it spreads?

Ah - good question, Grasshopper. As you can see in comment #1 (above), TPB shares his wildest hopes that the coronavirus is super deadly - especially to Democrats between the ages of 16 to 35.

Military leaders endorsing looting, riots and attacks on innocent shopowners is a turning point indeed.

elliemae says

WookieMan says

Who cares where it spreads?

Ah - good question, Grasshopper. As you can see in comment #1 (above), TPB shares his wildest hopes that the coronavirus is super deadly - especially to Democrats between the ages of 16 to 35.

Because I lean right doesn't mean I agree with 10# all the time. I don't want to see anyone die from this virus, left, right or center. Death is bad. Statistically speaking though, deaths are going down at a rapid pace, even in the early open states. New case testing results lag with real time for sure. Most death cases were already tested and known to have had the virus.

In another thread I think the Utah stats showed that maybe 30% died outside of a hospital setting there. You'd think Covid would be the first thing they test for upon admitting someone. So those test results are likely known upon death in the hospitalization cases. So it's not nearly as much of a lagging indicator as new cases.

Ultimately, if new cases jumped 100M overnight and deaths are going down, who cares? Pandemic are about people actually dying, not just getting the virus and living. It appears this virus attacked or attacks our weakest. Again, death is bad, but at some point you've lived a full life or made very poor health decisions. That's not reason to shut our country down.

Eliemae I thought you exhausted all of your trying to set me straight, after everything I said about Obamacare in 2012 turned out to be 100% correct plus some.

And you're in the medical field, you should have known I knew exactly what I was talking about. Why do Liberals make it a mission to silence the truth.

They never EVER argue with liar, or someone just talking shit making stuff up. They only attack the truth.

WookieMan says

Who cares where it spreads? Deaths are all that matters.

Hospitalizations are important to track.

Tim Aurora says

I think the Right has moved down, into the gutter and taking the country with it.

Yeah makes complete sense. Since the right is burning churches, businesses, murdering and beating people and vandalising hundreds of businesses and ruining lives.

You lefties live in a bubble.

Tim Aurora says

Black Americans are killed at a much higher rate than white Americans
Although half of the people shot and killed by police are white, black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate.

Black people KILL EACH OTHER at a much higher rate.
Although half the people shot are White, Blacks are responsible for HALF OF ALL VIOLENT CRIME despite being 13% of the Population.

The fact that the Cops killed 28 unarmed people in 2019, and 9 of them were Black, the fact is over 2/3 were White, which is disproportionate to the Black Violence Rate.


Here we go again, in one ear and out the other, with Black Crime Stats

CBOEtrader says

Per police encounter a black is far less likely to be shot by police.

Police brutality will be a joke of an issie as long as blacks commit 6 to 10x their proportional rate of violent crime.

It's like explaining to a beta how women work. You explain it, they seem to understand, as soon as a chick comes by, they go right back to default asskissing behavior.

HEYYOU says

One can smell Trump's RepCon cesspool anytime one is close to a RepCon.

Hey nice set of facts supporting your opinion Hey You.