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Hircus
2021 Jul 18, 6:06pm
Hircus
2021 Jul 18, 6:06pm
I live in a silicon valley neighborhood that has had a lot of whites replaced by asians in the past 20 years. Especially these past 5-10 years. A decent chunk of whites who left were old, and either died or moved somewhere for care. I know a 1 (and another I suspect) white who just moved to a cheaper part of CA to retire, cashing out their home. Of course this is a small anecdotal sample size, but I agree w/ Patricks sentiment that whites dont often have something against asian neighbors. I just havent heard people complain about asians, but I have heard people complain about fear of ghetto blacks.
I would guess most of the asians moving in around my street work in tech or health care. That's been the case for the past 4 new neighbors I've talked to.
I do know 1 white who moved as his street turned mostly indian american, but his issue was their constant large parties which caused parking traffic and the pungent smell of their cooking (which multiple neighbors did in their garages converted into kitchens. btw why do they do this?). I dont view that as being anti asian - those are legitimate gripes which bother some people.
edit- I think when a neighborhood gentrifies into a new predominant race, it's often primarily driven by the new race (with exceptions for people fleeing crime). I think this is why you see enclaves like "chinatown", "little vietnam" etc... for example, why do so many indians move to live in fremont? They want to live together, and specifically gravitate towards those neighborhoods when home shopping. I don't see anything wrong with this, but I do find it odd that the same effect is referred to as being "culture preserving" when minorities do it, but "white flight" when whites do it, even if the whites aren't fleeing, but rather the neighborhood is just getting white-diluted by strong demand from a specific minority as typical housing unit turnover naturally progresses over the years.
I would guess most of the asians moving in around my street work in tech or health care. That's been the case for the past 4 new neighbors I've talked to.
I do know 1 white who moved as his street turned mostly indian american, but his issue was their constant large parties which caused parking traffic and the pungent smell of their cooking (which multiple neighbors did in their garages converted into kitchens. btw why do they do this?). I dont view that as being anti asian - those are legitimate gripes which bother some people.
edit- I think when a neighborhood gentrifies into a new predominant race, it's often primarily driven by the new race (with exceptions for people fleeing crime). I think this is why you see enclaves like "chinatown", "little vietnam" etc... for example, why do so many indians move to live in fremont? They want to live together, and specifically gravitate towards those neighborhoods when home shopping. I don't see anything wrong with this, but I do find it odd that the same effect is referred to as being "culture preserving" when minorities do it, but "white flight" when whites do it, even if the whites aren't fleeing, but rather the neighborhood is just getting white-diluted by strong demand from a specific minority as typical housing unit turnover naturally progresses over the years.
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GNL
2021 Jul 18, 6:11pm
GNL
2021 Jul 18, 6:11pm
Hircus says
Every Asian and every Indian I've ever known had great family structures.
I live in a silicon valley neighborhood that has had a lot of whites replaced by asians in the past 20 years. Especially these past 5-10 years. A decent chunk of whites who left were old, and either died or moved somewhere for care. I know a 1 (and another I suspect) white who just moved to a cheaper part of CA to retire, cashing out their home. Of course this is a small anecdotal sample size, but I agree w/ Patricks sentiment that whites dont often have something against asian neighbors. I just havent heard people complain about asians, but I have heard people complain about fear of ghetto blacks.
I would guess most of the asians moving in around my street work in tech or health care. That's been the case for the past 4 new neighbors I've talked to.
I do know 1 white who moved as his street turned mostly indian american, but his issue was their constant large parties which caused parking traffic and the pungent smell of their cooking (which multiple neighbors did in the...
Every Asian and every Indian I've ever known had great family structures.
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Shaman
2021 Jul 18, 6:22pm
Shaman
2021 Jul 18, 6:22pm
My neighborhood is pretty mixed, but there are oldsters who are dying or otherwise retiring and moving away. Whoever replaces them has to have some serious cash because prices are running hard over $900k-$1.1 million right now. All the new neighbors are either white or Asian, with occasional mixed race people snagging another house. People want to live here with the blue ribbon schools and low crime and well kept neighborhoods. It was affordable just five years ago… we got in just in time.
More to topic, I’ve noticed that Irvine has gone asian in a big way over the past twenty years. The construction is much newer on average than other cities, the enforcement is rigorous with respect to forcibly relocating transients, and the schools are excellent. These factors attract Asians, who have paid more on average to live in such a place rather than elsewhere, and it seems the attraction grows for Asians the more Asians that live in a place. Asians like to be around other Asians. Maybe it’s because they value low crime and there’s no ethnic group with lower crime. Or maybe such concentrations of a similar culture attract businesses that cater to that culture and it becomes a place where first generation Asians can feel very comfortable?
Either way, it’s definitely not white flight. It’s whites being outbid by Asians, who have higher average incomes. And then Asians liking these types of Asian conclaves and preferring to live there.
I have little against Asians. My wife is half Asian. But even she complains about their driving and it’s annoying how engrossed in the pandemic protocols they can be.
More to topic, I’ve noticed that Irvine has gone asian in a big way over the past twenty years. The construction is much newer on average than other cities, the enforcement is rigorous with respect to forcibly relocating transients, and the schools are excellent. These factors attract Asians, who have paid more on average to live in such a place rather than elsewhere, and it seems the attraction grows for Asians the more Asians that live in a place. Asians like to be around other Asians. Maybe it’s because they value low crime and there’s no ethnic group with lower crime. Or maybe such concentrations of a similar culture attract businesses that cater to that culture and it becomes a place where first generation Asians can feel very comfortable?
Either way, it’s definitely not white flight. It’s whites being outbid by Asians, who have higher average incomes. And then Asians liking these types of Asian conclaves and preferring to live there.
I have little against Asians. My wife is half Asian. But even she complains about their driving and it’s annoying how engrossed in the pandemic protocols they can be.
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FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 6:46pm
FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 6:46pm
Cost of living is not the only factor. Specially in contra costa county near alameda , I see whites and Asians tend to move towards their majority city.
The purpose of this thread is to suggest “ Not only Asians but Whites also tend to live with whites in white area”.
I like color don’t care neighbourhood the best, But it looks like it is hard to practically achieve truly mixed neighbourhood.. sooner or later it starts to develop into somewhat segregated on racial lines.
The purpose of this thread is to suggest “ Not only Asians but Whites also tend to live with whites in white area”.
I like color don’t care neighbourhood the best, But it looks like it is hard to practically achieve truly mixed neighbourhood.. sooner or later it starts to develop into somewhat segregated on racial lines.
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FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 6:51pm
FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 6:51pm
Hircus says
It is not true. Mostly it is called "Ghettoization" not cultural preservation.
Also it doesn't matter if "minority conclave" is rich or poor, It is still termed as ghetto.
They want to live together, and specifically gravitate towards those neighborhoods when home shopping. I don't see anything wrong with this, but I do find it odd that the same effect is referred to as being "culture preserving" when minorities do it, but "white flight" when whites do it, even if the whites aren't fleeing, but rather the neighborhood is just getting white-diluted by strong demand from a specific minority as typical housing unit turnover naturally progresses over the years.
It is not true. Mostly it is called "Ghettoization" not cultural preservation.
Also it doesn't matter if "minority conclave" is rich or poor, It is still termed as ghetto.
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FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 6:54pm
FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 6:54pm
Oh boy.. Washington post and its racial orgasms.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/
The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/
The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans
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B.A.C.A.H.
2021 Jul 18, 7:01pm
B.A.C.A.H.
2021 Jul 18, 7:01pm
farmer2021 says
Yes it is.
I grew up here in the area. I did not immigrate to here from other crowded places.
I know so many whites (and blacks) who did not immigrate to here, but instead grew up here, who left. Some of those also of Asian heritage, native born Californians as American as me (not Asian immigrants). They share almost nothing with Asian immigrants, except how they look, and their surnames. Those natives of all races who've left, outnumber those of us who stayed.
They left for the more reasonable cost of living, and less crowded conditions. I know, because they told me so.
Compared to the concrete canyons I saw in Asia when I traveled there for work occasionally, the densely crowded-congested, hugely expensive Bay Area and other places they congregate to like Irvine or Vancouver, are like the Wide Open Prairie, at Bargain Prices.
Cost of living is not the only factor.
Yes it is.
I grew up here in the area. I did not immigrate to here from other crowded places.
I know so many whites (and blacks) who did not immigrate to here, but instead grew up here, who left. Some of those also of Asian heritage, native born Californians as American as me (not Asian immigrants). They share almost nothing with Asian immigrants, except how they look, and their surnames. Those natives of all races who've left, outnumber those of us who stayed.
They left for the more reasonable cost of living, and less crowded conditions. I know, because they told me so.
Compared to the concrete canyons I saw in Asia when I traveled there for work occasionally, the densely crowded-congested, hugely expensive Bay Area and other places they congregate to like Irvine or Vancouver, are like the Wide Open Prairie, at Bargain Prices.
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Hircus
2021 Jul 18, 7:27pm
Hircus
2021 Jul 18, 7:27pm
farmer2021 says
Hmmm I dont think so. I just haven't ever heard of anyone describe a neighborhood as bad unless it really is. Perhaps, to some people, its true that a borderline asian neighborhood is considered marginally more ghetto than a borderline white neighborhood, but I would be surprised if this was a significant difference, and I would imagine it to be a belief held mostly by older people who probably have little recent contact with asians.
I do agree with you that pretty much all cultures have a preference for living together, and yes I think whites generally prefer whites. But I also think whites are generally very comfortable with asians moving in, at least here in the sf bay. Hell, whites are more welcoming to asians than anyone else imo.
I guess me personally, I would prefer to not be the only white person in an asian neighborhood, although I don't think even that would bother me much unless I felt culturally excluded (ie if there were few americanized asians). If I lived in a ghetto, I would prefer a white ghetto, so there wouldnt be an easy visual reason to single me out. But I don't want to live in a ghetto, period.
So far I like the asian increase in my neighborhood, as I feel the people moving in are highly educated high earners, who are likely to improve schools and lower crime.
It is not true. Mostly it is called "Ghettoization" not cultural preservation.
Also it doesn't matter if "minority conclave" is rich or poor, It is still termed as ghetto.
Hmmm I dont think so. I just haven't ever heard of anyone describe a neighborhood as bad unless it really is. Perhaps, to some people, its true that a borderline asian neighborhood is considered marginally more ghetto than a borderline white neighborhood, but I would be surprised if this was a significant difference, and I would imagine it to be a belief held mostly by older people who probably have little recent contact with asians.
I do agree with you that pretty much all cultures have a preference for living together, and yes I think whites generally prefer whites. But I also think whites are generally very comfortable with asians moving in, at least here in the sf bay. Hell, whites are more welcoming to asians than anyone else imo.
I guess me personally, I would prefer to not be the only white person in an asian neighborhood, although I don't think even that would bother me much unless I felt culturally excluded (ie if there were few americanized asians). If I lived in a ghetto, I would prefer a white ghetto, so there wouldnt be an easy visual reason to single me out. But I don't want to live in a ghetto, period.
So far I like the asian increase in my neighborhood, as I feel the people moving in are highly educated high earners, who are likely to improve schools and lower crime.
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B.A.C.A.H.
2021 Jul 18, 9:24pm
B.A.C.A.H.
2021 Jul 18, 9:24pm
Hircus says
Then I think you know that many American born Asian kids are completely 100% assimilated. (I am even spouse to one of those). I don't know if that's what you referred to as americanized asians, or if you referred to something else.
To me those completely assimilated folks are not really Asian, any more than a black whose ancestors came here before most haolie's ancestors came, is African.
yes
Then I think you know that many American born Asian kids are completely 100% assimilated. (I am even spouse to one of those). I don't know if that's what you referred to as americanized asians, or if you referred to something else.
To me those completely assimilated folks are not really Asian, any more than a black whose ancestors came here before most haolie's ancestors came, is African.
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Hircus
2021 Jul 18, 10:27pm
Hircus
2021 Jul 18, 10:27pm
B.A.C.A.H. says
americanized = american culture = my culture = me not feeling culturally excluded.
I agree almost all who were born here are fully americanized, although their immigrant parents often stagnate and never quite fully make it. I find asians who arrived here young highly/fully americanize, while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.
B.A.C.A.H. says
In my experience, 50 to 1, when someone says "hes asian" it most often refers to their blood / genes, than to their culture or place of birth. Of course, it can be used for either, contextually.
Then I think you know that many American born Asian kids are completely 100% assimilated. (I am even spouse to one of those). I don't know if that's what you referred to as americanized asians, or if you referred to something else.
americanized = american culture = my culture = me not feeling culturally excluded.
I agree almost all who were born here are fully americanized, although their immigrant parents often stagnate and never quite fully make it. I find asians who arrived here young highly/fully americanize, while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.
B.A.C.A.H. says
To me those completely assimilated folks are not really Asian, any more than a black whose ancestors came here before most haolie's ancestors came, is African.
In my experience, 50 to 1, when someone says "hes asian" it most often refers to their blood / genes, than to their culture or place of birth. Of course, it can be used for either, contextually.
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FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 11:55pm
FarmersWon
2021 Jul 18, 11:55pm
https://www.brookings.edu/research/neighborhood-segregation-persists-for-black-latino-or-hispanic-and-asian-americans/
Neighborhood segregation persists for Black, Latino or Hispanic, and Asian Americans
Neighborhood segregation persists for Black, Latino or Hispanic, and Asian Americans
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B.A.C.A.H.
2021 Jul 19, 7:40am
B.A.C.A.H.
2021 Jul 19, 7:40am
Hircus says
Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.
We're locals, we see it, we live it. We know.
Recent adult-arrival immigrants who self-segregate as they congregative into crowded, expensive enclaves they created for themselves, importing their congestion and high prices with themselves, don't get it. Instead of looking in the mirror they cite The Race Card.
while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.
Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.
We're locals, we see it, we live it. We know.
Recent adult-arrival immigrants who self-segregate as they congregative into crowded, expensive enclaves they created for themselves, importing their congestion and high prices with themselves, don't get it. Instead of looking in the mirror they cite The Race Card.
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Hircus
2021 Jul 19, 11:02am
Hircus
2021 Jul 19, 11:02am
B.A.C.A.H. says
Yup. My friend, a chinese girl who still acts very chinese, arrived here at about 20 to do her masters (shes prob 28 now). She recently purchased a home in a newly constructed neighborhood with her american born chinese husband. She gloated to me that her (chinese) realtor told her that her new neighborhood was 90% asian, mostly chinese so far (it was about half sold at that point). She was so happy about it, and I'm not sure if she understands that the PC crowd might not approve of her preference. The homes were expensive, and bidding wars + "it only goes up" mania gave her instant equity.
Hircus sayswhile most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.
Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.
Yup. My friend, a chinese girl who still acts very chinese, arrived here at about 20 to do her masters (shes prob 28 now). She recently purchased a home in a newly constructed neighborhood with her american born chinese husband. She gloated to me that her (chinese) realtor told her that her new neighborhood was 90% asian, mostly chinese so far (it was about half sold at that point). She was so happy about it, and I'm not sure if she understands that the PC crowd might not approve of her preference. The homes were expensive, and bidding wars + "it only goes up" mania gave her instant equity.
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FarmersWon
2021 Jul 19, 11:18am
FarmersWon
2021 Jul 19, 11:18am
Hircus says
Yes Asians tend to live in Asian neighborhoods. It is no secret.
But it seems same is true for whites, which was not well known before some cities started to become one-third or so Asian.
B.A.C.A.H. saysHircus sayswhile most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.
Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.
Yup. My friend, a chinese girl who still acts very chinese, arrived here at about 20 to do her masters (shes prob 28 now). She recently purchased a home in a newly constructed neighborhood with her american born chinese husband. She gloated to me that her (chinese) realtor told her that her new neighborhood was 90% asian, mostly chinese so far (it was about half sold at that point). She was so happy about it, and I'm not sure if she understands that the PC crowd might not approve of her preference. The homes were expensive, and bidding wars + "it only goes up" mania gave her instant equity.
Yes Asians tend to live in Asian neighborhoods. It is no secret.
But it seems same is true for whites, which was not well known before some cities started to become one-third or so Asian.
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Patrick
2021 Jul 19, 1:09pm
Patrick
2021 Jul 19, 1:09pm
This site used to show everyone in the US by race, from census tracts, which are pretty small:
https://patrick.net/post/1301335/2017-01-13-race-map-of-us
The link to the zoomable map does not work anymore for me:
https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html?ref=patrick.net
Does it work for anyone else? Maybe the woke shut it down because TOO MUCH REALITY.
https://patrick.net/post/1301335/2017-01-13-race-map-of-us
The link to the zoomable map does not work anymore for me:
https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html?ref=patrick.net
Does it work for anyone else? Maybe the woke shut it down because TOO MUCH REALITY.
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RWSGFY
2021 Jul 19, 8:13pm
RWSGFY
2021 Jul 19, 8:13pm
Donald says
Like 2 out of 10 total for the whole country? Oh, the horror!
Has Sleepy Joe deployed Navy hospital ships yet? What's he waiting for?
Second, 20% of all new Covid cases are now in Florida.
Like 2 out of 10 total for the whole country? Oh, the horror!
Has Sleepy Joe deployed Navy hospital ships yet? What's he waiting for?
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WookieMan
2021 Jul 19, 8:26pm
WookieMan
2021 Jul 19, 8:26pm
Donald says
Let people fucking cruise. I'm personally done cruising, but for fucks sake, let them make a choice. Cruises have always been sketchy. Nora virus or whatnot. People have always gotten sick on cruises. They get sick in Mexico brushing their damn teeth. We're shutting down industries that bring thousands of jobs to these ports. Annually there are probably 20 people that die on the way to these jobs. Likely less than Covid. Who the fuck cares.
First, in the middle of the night, an appellate court reinstated the CDC''s ban on cruise ships that DeSantis recently got overturned in court.
Let people fucking cruise. I'm personally done cruising, but for fucks sake, let them make a choice. Cruises have always been sketchy. Nora virus or whatnot. People have always gotten sick on cruises. They get sick in Mexico brushing their damn teeth. We're shutting down industries that bring thousands of jobs to these ports. Annually there are probably 20 people that die on the way to these jobs. Likely less than Covid. Who the fuck cares.
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Bd6r
2021 Jul 19, 8:26pm
Bd6r
2021 Jul 19, 8:26pm
Donald says
I have nearly full confidence that cruise companies will buy gov't bureaucrats off and nothing will interfere with their PROFIT!!!
Today was a bad day for DeSantis. First, in the middle of the night, an appellate court reinstated the CDC''s ban on cruise ships that DeSantis recently got overturned in court. Second, 20% of all new Covid cases are now in Florida.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/19/cruise-stocks-fall-amid-covid-concerns-court-ruling-in-florida.html
I have nearly full confidence that cruise companies will buy gov't bureaucrats off and nothing will interfere with their PROFIT!!!
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richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 9:06pm
richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 9:06pm
Fallopia says
If positive hope makes you feel better, I will not dissuade you from it.
It's a damned bitter pill to swallow to know just how criminal your government is, I know. I swallowed it 20 years ago and was in a practical rage for 16 years because 1/2 my friends had "hope" that X would fix it! Y would happen! Surely Z will be prosecuted!
The military has betrayed the nation. Where's your hope? In our fucking judicial system? Derek Chauvin is in jail because a thug drug addict died of a drug overdose after resisting arrest for 5 minutes. There's no judicial system.
This shit ends when enough people realize THEY have to make this shit end. The system isn't going to fix itself.
Trump will be reinstated. Just wait.
If positive hope makes you feel better, I will not dissuade you from it.
It's a damned bitter pill to swallow to know just how criminal your government is, I know. I swallowed it 20 years ago and was in a practical rage for 16 years because 1/2 my friends had "hope" that X would fix it! Y would happen! Surely Z will be prosecuted!
The military has betrayed the nation. Where's your hope? In our fucking judicial system? Derek Chauvin is in jail because a thug drug addict died of a drug overdose after resisting arrest for 5 minutes. There's no judicial system.
This shit ends when enough people realize THEY have to make this shit end. The system isn't going to fix itself.
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Bd6r
2021 Jul 20, 9:07pm
Bd6r
2021 Jul 20, 9:07pm
richwicks says
trolling, methinks. Link is a weak attempt at left-wing Babylon Bee.
If positive hope makes you feel better, I will not dissuade you from it.
trolling, methinks. Link is a weak attempt at left-wing Babylon Bee.
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richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 9:09pm
richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 9:09pm
When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.
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porkchopXpress
2021 Jul 20, 9:54pm
porkchopXpress
2021 Jul 20, 9:54pm
So what? There are idiots on all sides. I don't get your point.
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ForcedTQ
2021 Jul 20, 9:58pm
That site is like the onion, I wouldn’t say it’s a ProTrump news site….
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porkchopXpress
2021 Jul 20, 10:07pm
porkchopXpress
2021 Jul 20, 10:07pm
So anything pro-trump is true? Does that mean anything anti-biden is false?
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Patrick
2021 Jul 20, 10:14pm
Patrick
2021 Jul 20, 10:14pm
richwicks says
Again, Fallopia is trolling by posting this.
His technique seems to be:
1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"
And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud. I think he's really trying to create FUD about that fraud.
How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?
When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.
Again, Fallopia is trolling by posting this.
His technique seems to be:
1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"
And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud. I think he's really trying to create FUD about that fraud.
How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?
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FarmersWon
2021 Jul 20, 10:15pm
FarmersWon
2021 Jul 20, 10:15pm
Patrick says
Fellatio and fakerawnews are "Sidney Powell" of current cycle.
https://patrick.net/post/1338544/2021-03-22-was-sidney-powell-a-democrat-plant
https://patrick.net/post/1336710/2020-11-20-trump-lawyer-sound-unrealistic
Rb6d sayswut
Fallopia is trolling by posting this.
Is he an independent troll, or paid?
Fellatio and fakerawnews are "Sidney Powell" of current cycle.
https://patrick.net/post/1338544/2021-03-22-was-sidney-powell-a-democrat-plant
https://patrick.net/post/1336710/2020-11-20-trump-lawyer-sound-unrealistic
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richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 10:26pm
richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 10:26pm
Fallopia says
Responsibility?
That 16 years was my stupidity in not recognizing my "smart and ethical friends" didn't have any ethics, and weren't smart. They raged (as I did) when Bush lied us into the war in Iraq, but they still believe Obama was just a great president, and he had "a good reason" to bomb Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen.
I can explain, to the morons, why Bush was a bad president, but deaf ears when I explain Obama was no different. It just disgusts me. It's kind of like finding out the priest you've always respected and liked is an atheist and has been talking bullshit for over a decade and all the money he's been collecting tax free for the last 15 years bought his new boat, and vacation home in the Bahamas.
We are a nation filled with people with no principles. I suppose we deserve what is coming to us.
richwicks saysI swallowed it 20 years ago and was in a practical rage for 16 years because 1/2 my friends had "hope" that X would fix it!
I'm sorry to hear that. Do you take any responsibility for your 16 years of rage? I'm pretty sure it wasn't your friends' fault.
Responsibility?
That 16 years was my stupidity in not recognizing my "smart and ethical friends" didn't have any ethics, and weren't smart. They raged (as I did) when Bush lied us into the war in Iraq, but they still believe Obama was just a great president, and he had "a good reason" to bomb Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen.
I can explain, to the morons, why Bush was a bad president, but deaf ears when I explain Obama was no different. It just disgusts me. It's kind of like finding out the priest you've always respected and liked is an atheist and has been talking bullshit for over a decade and all the money he's been collecting tax free for the last 15 years bought his new boat, and vacation home in the Bahamas.
We are a nation filled with people with no principles. I suppose we deserve what is coming to us.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Jul 20, 10:56pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Jul 20, 10:56pm
The guillotine is French, and I think if Macron keeps going, has a real shot at coming out of retirement. As Comey is from the US I'd guess we'll just shoot him when the time comes, probably with an AR-15.
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richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 10:58pm
richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 10:58pm
Fallopia says
Yes, of course.
I'm also saying the people that create fake bullshit news stories, are pretty fucking easy to spot. In addition to that, nearly everything on television is fake news stories, and has been for at least 20 years and it's easy to spot.
In 2000-2008 "the right" was blind to it, but from 2008 to 2016 "the right" wasn't blind to it, but "the left" was, but something special happened in 2016 - a good deal of "the right" realized 2000-2008 was bullshit propaganda that they fell for, but "the left", for some inexplicable reason, thought the bullshit that was being shitted down their throat was the truth, even though they were the FIRST to recognize blatant propaganda being masqueraded as "news".
I never would have guessed NEVER would have guessed that "the right" would have been the first group to
1) recognize that "news" media is complete brainwashing propaganda
2) recognize that the intelligence agencies are fucking liars
3) realize that judicial system is corrupt
and 4) recognize our voting system is total bullshit
Before "the left" did. I'm fucking astounded to be honest, even now. I used to think "the left" was smart. They have no independent thought at all. I know a person with an MIT degree that SWEARS that Russia "hacked our election" - but when I ask him "well, how did they do that exactly?" - he moves to another subject or ignores the question. He's a fucking MIT graduate.
I've lost a lot of faith in the people I thought were smart. They're smart, in a single area, of their expertise, and complete dildo moron idiots in others. Autistic geniuses, and their arrogance, prevents them from ever realizing they are wrong. I'm surrounded by retarded experts. This is what Silicon Valley is actually like.
richwicks saysThis is a total BS story.
But it's on a pro-Trump news website. Are you saying that people write and propagate fake pro-Trump news stories?
https://realrawnews.com/
Yes, of course.
I'm also saying the people that create fake bullshit news stories, are pretty fucking easy to spot. In addition to that, nearly everything on television is fake news stories, and has been for at least 20 years and it's easy to spot.
In 2000-2008 "the right" was blind to it, but from 2008 to 2016 "the right" wasn't blind to it, but "the left" was, but something special happened in 2016 - a good deal of "the right" realized 2000-2008 was bullshit propaganda that they fell for, but "the left", for some inexplicable reason, thought the bullshit that was being shitted down their throat was the truth, even though they were the FIRST to recognize blatant propaganda being masqueraded as "news".
I never would have guessed NEVER would have guessed that "the right" would have been the first group to
1) recognize that "news" media is complete brainwashing propaganda
2) recognize that the intelligence agencies are fucking liars
3) realize that judicial system is corrupt
and 4) recognize our voting system is total bullshit
Before "the left" did. I'm fucking astounded to be honest, even now. I used to think "the left" was smart. They have no independent thought at all. I know a person with an MIT degree that SWEARS that Russia "hacked our election" - but when I ask him "well, how did they do that exactly?" - he moves to another subject or ignores the question. He's a fucking MIT graduate.
I've lost a lot of faith in the people I thought were smart. They're smart, in a single area, of their expertise, and complete dildo moron idiots in others. Autistic geniuses, and their arrogance, prevents them from ever realizing they are wrong. I'm surrounded by retarded experts. This is what Silicon Valley is actually like.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Jul 20, 10:59pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Jul 20, 10:59pm
When Newsome does get ousted, what's the protection situation like for ex-governor's? I'm guessing he'll have to hire his own. Wonder what the over/under is on him just getting randomly socked by strangers whenever he walks down the street?
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richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 11:02pm
richwicks
2021 Jul 20, 11:02pm
Patrick says
Shit, he could just post some clips from Fox News.
Does he think we seriously don't realize this?
Find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet?
Golly Gee Whiz, there's propaganda for the Republicans - who could have possibly guessed??
His technique seems to be:
1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"
Shit, he could just post some clips from Fox News.
Does he think we seriously don't realize this?
Find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet?
Golly Gee Whiz, there's propaganda for the Republicans - who could have possibly guessed??
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