patrick.net

Oh boy.. Washington post and its racial orgasms.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/
The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

farmer2021 says

Cost of living is not the only factor.

Yes it is.

I grew up here in the area. I did not immigrate to here from other crowded places.

I know so many whites (and blacks) who did not immigrate to here, but instead grew up here, who left. Some of those also of Asian heritage, native born Californians as American as me (not Asian immigrants). They share almost nothing with Asian immigrants, except how they look, and their surnames. Those natives of all races who've left, outnumber those of us who stayed.

They left for the more reasonable cost of living, and less crowded conditions. I know, because they told me so.

Compared to the concrete canyons I saw in Asia when I traveled there for work occasionally, the densely crowded-congested, hugely expensive Bay Area and other places they congregate to like Irvine or Vancouver, are like the Wide Open Prairie, at Bargain Prices.

farmer2021 says

It is not true. Mostly it is called "Ghettoization" not cultural preservation.
Also it doesn't matter if "minority conclave" is rich or poor, It is still termed as ghetto.

Hmmm I dont think so. I just haven't ever heard of anyone describe a neighborhood as bad unless it really is. Perhaps, to some people, its true that a borderline asian neighborhood is considered marginally more ghetto than a borderline white neighborhood, but I would be surprised if this was a significant difference, and I would imagine it to be a belief held mostly by older people who probably have little recent contact with asians.

I do agree with you that pretty much all cultures have a preference for living together, and yes I think whites generally prefer whites. But I also think whites are generally very comfortable with asians moving in, at least here in the sf bay. Hell, whites are more welcoming to asians than anyone else imo.

I guess me personally, I would prefer to not be the only white person in an asian neighborhood, although I don't think even that would bother me much unless I felt culturally excluded (ie if there were few americanized asians). If I lived in a ghetto, I would prefer a white ghetto, so there wouldnt be an easy visual reason to single me out. But I don't want to live in a ghetto, period.

So far I like the asian increase in my neighborhood, as I feel the people moving in are highly educated high earners, who are likely to improve schools and lower crime.

Hircus says

(ie if there were few americanized asians)

Hircus, did you grow up in the Bay Area?

yes

Hircus says

yes

Then I think you know that many American born Asian kids are completely 100% assimilated. (I am even spouse to one of those). I don't know if that's what you referred to as americanized asians, or if you referred to something else.

To me those completely assimilated folks are not really Asian, any more than a black whose ancestors came here before most haolie's ancestors came, is African.

B.A.C.A.H. says

Then I think you know that many American born Asian kids are completely 100% assimilated. (I am even spouse to one of those). I don't know if that's what you referred to as americanized asians, or if you referred to something else.

americanized = american culture = my culture = me not feeling culturally excluded.

I agree almost all who were born here are fully americanized, although their immigrant parents often stagnate and never quite fully make it. I find asians who arrived here young highly/fully americanize, while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.


B.A.C.A.H. says

To me those completely assimilated folks are not really Asian, any more than a black whose ancestors came here before most haolie's ancestors came, is African.

In my experience, 50 to 1, when someone says "hes asian" it most often refers to their blood / genes, than to their culture or place of birth. Of course, it can be used for either, contextually.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/neighborhood-segregation-persists-for-black-latino-or-hispanic-and-asian-americans/

Neighborhood segregation persists for Black, Latino or Hispanic, and Asian Americans

Hircus says

while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.

Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.

We're locals, we see it, we live it. We know.

Recent adult-arrival immigrants who self-segregate as they congregative into crowded, expensive enclaves they created for themselves, importing their congestion and high prices with themselves, don't get it. Instead of looking in the mirror they cite The Race Card.

B.A.C.A.H. says

Hircus says

while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.

Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.

Yup. My friend, a chinese girl who still acts very chinese, arrived here at about 20 to do her masters (shes prob 28 now). She recently purchased a home in a newly constructed neighborhood with her american born chinese husband. She gloated to me that her (chinese) realtor told her that her new neighborhood was 90% asian, mostly chinese so far (it was about half sold at that point). She was so happy about it, and I'm not sure if she understands that the PC crowd might not approve of her preference. The homes were expensive, and bidding wars + "it only goes up" mania gave her instant equity.

Hircus says

B.A.C.A.H. says

Hircus says

while most adult arrivals only somewhat americanize.

Yes. And those are the ones pricing whites, blacks, American-born Asians and American-born Latinos out of the densely packed, over-crowded, over-priced Bay Area.

Yup. My friend, a chinese girl who still acts very chinese, arrived here at about 20 to do her masters (shes prob 28 now). She recently purchased a home in a newly constructed neighborhood with her american born chinese husband. She gloated to me that her (chinese) realtor told her that her new neighborhood was 90% asian, mostly chinese so far (it was about half sold at that point). She was so happy about it, and I'm not sure if she understands that the PC crowd might not approve of her preference. The homes were expensive, and bidding wars + "it only goes up" mania gave her instant equity.

Yes Asians tend to live in Asian neighborhoods. It is no secret.
But it seems same is true for whites, which was not well known before some cities started to become one-third or so Asian.

This site used to show everyone in the US by race, from census tracts, which are pretty small:

https://patrick.net/post/1301335/2017-01-13-race-map-of-us

The link to the zoomable map does not work anymore for me:

https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html?ref=patrick.net

Does it work for anyone else? Maybe the woke shut it down because TOO MUCH REALITY.

Donald says

Second, 20% of all new Covid cases are now in Florida.

Like 2 out of 10 total for the whole country? Oh, the horror!

Has Sleepy Joe deployed Navy hospital ships yet? What's he waiting for?

Donald says

First, in the middle of the night, an appellate court reinstated the CDC''s ban on cruise ships that DeSantis recently got overturned in court.

Let people fucking cruise. I'm personally done cruising, but for fucks sake, let them make a choice. Cruises have always been sketchy. Nora virus or whatnot. People have always gotten sick on cruises. They get sick in Mexico brushing their damn teeth. We're shutting down industries that bring thousands of jobs to these ports. Annually there are probably 20 people that die on the way to these jobs. Likely less than Covid. Who the fuck cares.

Donald says

Today was a bad day for DeSantis. First, in the middle of the night, an appellate court reinstated the CDC''s ban on cruise ships that DeSantis recently got overturned in court. Second, 20% of all new Covid cases are now in Florida.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/19/cruise-stocks-fall-amid-covid-concerns-court-ruling-in-florida.html

I have nearly full confidence that cruise companies will buy gov't bureaucrats off and nothing will interfere with their PROFIT!!!

wut

Fallopia says

Trump will be reinstated. Just wait.

If positive hope makes you feel better, I will not dissuade you from it.

It's a damned bitter pill to swallow to know just how criminal your government is, I know. I swallowed it 20 years ago and was in a practical rage for 16 years because 1/2 my friends had "hope" that X would fix it! Y would happen! Surely Z will be prosecuted!

The military has betrayed the nation. Where's your hope? In our fucking judicial system? Derek Chauvin is in jail because a thug drug addict died of a drug overdose after resisting arrest for 5 minutes. There's no judicial system.

This shit ends when enough people realize THEY have to make this shit end. The system isn't going to fix itself.

richwicks says

If positive hope makes you feel better, I will not dissuade you from it.

trolling, methinks. Link is a weak attempt at left-wing Babylon Bee.

When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.

Realrawnews is fake news

Realrawnews is fake news. Sorry.

So what? There are idiots on all sides. I don't get your point.

That site is like the onion, I wouldn’t say it’s a ProTrump news site….

So anything pro-trump is true? Does that mean anything anti-biden is false?

Rb6d says

wut

Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

Is he an independent troll, or paid?

richwicks says

When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.

Again, Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud. I think he's really trying to create FUD about that fraud.

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

Patrick says

Rb6d says

wut

Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

Is he an independent troll, or paid?

Fellatio and fakerawnews are "Sidney Powell" of current cycle.
https://patrick.net/post/1338544/2021-03-22-was-sidney-powell-a-democrat-plant
https://patrick.net/post/1336710/2020-11-20-trump-lawyer-sound-unrealistic

Fallopia says

richwicks says

I swallowed it 20 years ago and was in a practical rage for 16 years because 1/2 my friends had "hope" that X would fix it!

I'm sorry to hear that. Do you take any responsibility for your 16 years of rage? I'm pretty sure it wasn't your friends' fault.

Responsibility?

That 16 years was my stupidity in not recognizing my "smart and ethical friends" didn't have any ethics, and weren't smart. They raged (as I did) when Bush lied us into the war in Iraq, but they still believe Obama was just a great president, and he had "a good reason" to bomb Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen.

I can explain, to the morons, why Bush was a bad president, but deaf ears when I explain Obama was no different. It just disgusts me. It's kind of like finding out the priest you've always respected and liked is an atheist and has been talking bullshit for over a decade and all the money he's been collecting tax free for the last 15 years bought his new boat, and vacation home in the Bahamas.

We are a nation filled with people with no principles. I suppose we deserve what is coming to us.

Weak sause.

The guillotine is French, and I think if Macron keeps going, has a real shot at coming out of retirement. As Comey is from the US I'd guess we'll just shoot him when the time comes, probably with an AR-15.

Fallopia says

richwicks says

This is a total BS story.

But it's on a pro-Trump news website. Are you saying that people write and propagate fake pro-Trump news stories?

https://realrawnews.com/

Yes, of course.

I'm also saying the people that create fake bullshit news stories, are pretty fucking easy to spot. In addition to that, nearly everything on television is fake news stories, and has been for at least 20 years and it's easy to spot.

In 2000-2008 "the right" was blind to it, but from 2008 to 2016 "the right" wasn't blind to it, but "the left" was, but something special happened in 2016 - a good deal of "the right" realized 2000-2008 was bullshit propaganda that they fell for, but "the left", for some inexplicable reason, thought the bullshit that was being shitted down their throat was the truth, even though they were the FIRST to recognize blatant propaganda being masqueraded as "news".

I never would have guessed NEVER would have guessed that "the right" would have been the first group to

1) recognize that "news" media is complete brainwashing propaganda
2) recognize that the intelligence agencies are fucking liars
3) realize that judicial system is corrupt
and 4) recognize our voting system is total bullshit

Before "the left" did. I'm fucking astounded to be honest, even now. I used to think "the left" was smart. They have no independent thought at all. I know a person with an MIT degree that SWEARS that Russia "hacked our election" - but when I ask him "well, how did they do that exactly?" - he moves to another subject or ignores the question. He's a fucking MIT graduate.

I've lost a lot of faith in the people I thought were smart. They're smart, in a single area, of their expertise, and complete dildo moron idiots in others. Autistic geniuses, and their arrogance, prevents them from ever realizing they are wrong. I'm surrounded by retarded experts. This is what Silicon Valley is actually like.

When Newsome does get ousted, what's the protection situation like for ex-governor's? I'm guessing he'll have to hire his own. Wonder what the over/under is on him just getting randomly socked by strangers whenever he walks down the street?

Patrick says

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

Shit, he could just post some clips from Fox News.

Does he think we seriously don't realize this?

Find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet?

Golly Gee Whiz, there's propaganda for the Republicans - who could have possibly guessed??

Patrick says

What are the actual crimes he should be charged with?

Yeah, not really the best one to get things started. I think he'll be left for the general purge.

Seriously though, I think Comey could indeed be found guilty of some offense that would merit the death penalty.

The FBI is that corrupt.

This is definitely in the realm of conspiracy theory, but I think this is a possible scenario. If Trump where to get back in office, a huge majority of people would suddenly be feeling a lot less revolutionary, thinking that would solve all their problems(forgetting that for four years nothing changed). A small minority would probably have a complete mental breakdown and enlarge our ever-growing homeless population. They have the means(fraudulent elections), to do it, and it might even get people to buy into the pandemic BS if Trump was the one pushing it. But they already have their puppet state leader, and they probably have a better chance staying the course for now. But if they get desperate, you never know...

Patrick says

Seriously though, I think Comey could indeed be found guilty of some offense that would merit the death penalty.

The FBI is that corrupt.

For sure. An obvious target would be FBI collusion with child pedophilia rings. They have a long history of witness intimidation regarding these types of cases, going all the way back to the Franklin Coverup.

richwicks says

I've lost a lot of faith in the people I thought were smart. They're smart, in a single area, of their expertise, and complete dildo moron idiots in others. Autistic geniuses, and their arrogance, prevents them from ever realizing they are wrong. I'm surrounded by retarded experts. This is what Silicon Valley is actually like.

Oh, those people are likely smart. But keep in mind that people are NOT logical creatures. When it comes to religion and politics, people choose not to use their smarts.

The conspiracy theory in this case is that the election was fair and not stolen as the evidence pointing toward massive fraud is overwhelming. Math just is and doesn't lie

Patrick says

richwicks says

When did the navy get judicial authority? This is a total BS story.

Again, Fallopia is trolling by posting this.

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud. I think he's really trying to create FUD about that fraud.

How much do you get paid for this, @Fallopia ?

Sure enough, Patrick has Fallopia nailed:

Fallopia says

Patrick says

His technique seems to be:

1. post something so outlandish from a disreputable but right-wing site that people object
2. attempt to generalize that to "see, this one right-wing site posted bullshit, therefore all right-wing sites are bullshit"

And yet the election was indeed stolen by ballot fraud.

The website and stories are obviously BS. Anyone with half a brain should instantly realize this. Yet look at the comments below some of the stories...they number into the thousands. Tons of people believe this bullshit. They will glom on to any conspiratorial nonsense.

Just like people believe the election was stolen because they can't accept reality.

Troll, troll, go away, bug some other blog today . . .