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What effect will it have on people's DNA? Does the study mention that?

WineHorror1 says

What effect will it have on people's DNA? Does the study mention that?

Your body will produce the s protein for an unknown time in unknown quantities at unknown locations potentially harming or killing you

There was an earlier MIT study that showed the same thing. This is in vitro, of course, but troubling nonetheless. If it happens appreciably in vivo, rut roh.

Now that the sequence for the spike protein has become part of your DNA through reverse transcription (RNA to DNA), your cells make the spike protein, pieces of which then get displayed on the surface of your cells, for example, your liver cells. T cells that have developed to recognize spike protein through vaccination, or through natural infection, which may have occured before or after vaccination, target and kill your cells, which appear to the T cells to be virally infected. Depending on where in the DNA these reverse transcribed sequences are inserted, cancer may result.

Other than that, nothing to worry about.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

There was an earlier MIT study that showed the same thing. This is in vitro, of course, but troubling nonetheless. If it happens appreciably in vivo, rut roh.

Now that the sequence for the spike protein has become part of your DNA through reverse transcription (RNA to DNA), your cells make the spike protein, pieces of which then get displayed on the surface of your cells, for example, your liver cells. T cells that have developed to recognize spike protein through vaccination, or through natural infection, which may have occured before or after vaccination, target and kill your cells, which appear to the T cells to be virally infected. Depending on where in the DNA these reverse transcribed sequences are inserted, cancer may result.

Other than that, nothing to worry about.

Yeah, that doesn't sound good at all.

It works just as designed.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/reverse-transcriptionpermanent-installation

I wonder in all the DARPA and NIH meetings that occurred in the last ten years on mRNA, did they ever consider reverse transcription? If the mRNA stays long enough in the cytosol and is not dissolved by enzymes, the human cell could find base pairs of nucleic acids and create a mirror image of the genetic code which could be brought into the nucleus of the cell for insertion into the human genome. This is such a giant consideration because genetic code for a damaging and lethal protein installed into our own cells permanently would be passed down to somatic daughter cells and from spermatocytes and oocytes to an embryo. Forever changing the human genome for future generations must have been a large part of the safety discussion in those DARPA and NIH transcripts—only investigation and release of documents will tell the story. In the meantime, Alden et al have demonstrated integration of the center 444 base pair amplicon or reporter region from the Pfizer vaccine into the human nucleus in a hepatoma cell line.[iii] This paper has not been challenged by any credible authority nor disproven by any other experiments.

Patrick says

Alden et al have demonstrated integration of the center 444 base pair amplicon or reporter region from the Pfizer vaccine into the human nucleus in a hepatoma cell line

Y'all heard about this first on Patnet. (Handy search function, Patrick!)

https://patrick.net/post/1345329/2022-05-26-intracellular-reverse-transcription-of
https://patrick.net/post/1339440/2021-05-28-something-for-conspiracy-theorists
https://patrick.net/post/1342941/2021-12-14-pfizer-s-own-stats-1200-40-000-trial

What we really need to ask is what chemicals or hormones will cause this new DNA transcripted from the mRNA to express itself and start pumping out toxic spike proteins? And are these chemical triggers something they could place in the food supply to reach out and activate a “kill switch” for the vaxxed?
Just because a code is in your DNA, doesn’t mean it will be used to make proteins, and those proteins it codes for are the way it’s expressed. Usually hormones trigger gene expression. And those can be generated by outside forces like environment and internal forces like stress.
So what sort of factors would make this new DNA insert express itself and begin making massive amounts of spike?
That would be the trigger.

Shaman says

What we really need to ask

We need to ask why take it at all? I don't take anything I don't need. I can lay in bed for a week with the flu if needed. Hydrate and take vitamins, which I do anyway.

Modern medicine has been great to an extent. Due to the 1900's eliminating/protecting from a lot of viruses and disease, big pharma needs to make shit up as publicly traded companies to please shareholders. No one needed the covid vaccine. It 100% is a flop. It doesn't work. I believe it has killed people, but I don't think it's as lethal as some make it out to be. Either way, I'm not taking it.

Hell I didn't take a thing for my fractured heel. Break something in your foot, it's not fucking pleasant. I'd rather feel the pain knowing if I'm pushing myself too fast and prolonging the injury. I did with a trip to Mexico and St. John during my boot time for the heel. I extended it a month of healing. But that was activity. If I masked it with pain killers it would have even been longer. I have to say, snorkeling with a boot on, and boot condom was fucking weird. Knee Rovers are also amazing when traveling with foot injuries. You can zip around anywhere in seconds.

Well obviously the best thing would have been to not take the vax. But people have made that decision and separated into their camps accordingly by now. What I’m concerned about is how the existing situation could be exploited by the same people who made and pushed the vax to carry out the delayed kill order.

The CDC continues to blatantly lie, and slowly modifies its statements to hide the previous lies:

https://palexander.substack.com/p/cdc-how-could-the-cdc-remove-such



They have for now retained their lie that the mRNA toxxine does not modify DNA, even though it has been shown several times that it does:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35723296/

Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro. Huh7 cells were exposed to BNT162b2, and quantitative PCR was performed on RNA extracted from the cells. We detected high levels of BNT162b2 in Huh7 cells and changes in gene expression of long interspersed nuclear element-1 (LINE-1), which is an endogenous reverse transcriptase. Immunohistochemistry using antibody binding to LINE-1 open reading frame-1 RNA-binding protein (ORFp1) on Huh7 cells treated with BNT162b2 indicated increased nucleus distribution of LINE-1. PCR on genomic DNA of Huh7 cells exposed to BNT162b2 amplified the DNA sequence unique to BNT162b2. Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution. We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6 h upon BNT162b2 exposure.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/mrna-from-mrna-covid-gene-injection

mRNA from mRNA COVID gene injection vaccine platform is taken up by our human DNA! Yes, reversed transcribed back into DNA & implications are staggering! Not good! We were right when we screamed out

We also show that Pfizer (BNT162b2) mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in 6 h upon Pfizer exposure; these people in pharma, CDC, NIH, FDA knew this, issue is they DON'T care!

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution. We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6 h upon BNT162b2 exposure.

GNL says

What effect will it have on people's DNA? Does the study mention that?

It appears, that once it's incorporated into your DNA, your body will produce it indefinitely. This would (possibly?) explain why your body would move over to IgG4 to neutralize it, rather than destroy the cells producing it.

I think. I hate biology and I suck at it as well.

Not ALL your cells, SOME of your cells. Potentially this could effect spermatozoa and eggs as well.

If this happened, and I'm saying IF it happened, I think trust in corporate medicine is dead forever.

richwicks says

IgG4

IgG4 is a new term to me. What is it?

richwicks says

GNL says

What effect will it have on people's DNA? Does the study mention that?

It appears, that once it's incorporated into your DNA, your body will produce it indefinitely. This would (possibly?) explain why your body would move over to IgG4 to neutralize it, rather than destroy the cells producing it.

I think. I hate biology and I suck at it as well.

Not ALL your cells, SOME of your cells. Potentially this could effect spermatozoa and eggs as well.

If this happened, and I'm saying IF it happened, I think trust in corporate medicine is dead forever.

I do not believe that 1 in a million people will ever know/realize this so, trust will continue. IMO

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and Judy Mikovits were the first that I heard warning us that the COVID-19 'vaccine' would alter our DNA. Virtually every
media outlet trashed both of these brave ladies, including the vaunted liberal rag Rolling Stone, which is now just another tool in the hands of
the establishment. Below is an example of how they went out of their way to trash Mikovits, while defending Anthony Fauci ...

Judy Mikovits, Disgraced Doctor at the Center of ‘Plandemic,’ Has a Bestselling Book on Amazon

'Plague of Corruption' is gaining traction on the heels of a proliferation of COVID-19 conspiracy theories

"IT IS PERHAPS a testament to these anxious, extremely paranoid times that one of the most famous scientists in the country right now is not actually a credible scientist at all. Dr. Judy Mikovits is at the center of the documentary Plandemic, a melange of pseudoscience and baseless conspiracy theories related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite featuring the widely debunked claims that the COVID-19 death toll has been inflated and that masks spread the novel coronavirus, the 26-minute Plandemic went massively viral on social media, thanks in no small part to promotion from right-wing conspiracy theorists and mainstream influencers alike. Although Facebook and YouTube removed the video for violating anti-misinformation policies, it continues to be widely shared on various social platforms, even though most of its claims have been thoroughly debunked."

"Within the anti-vaccine community, Mikovits is a well-known figure: After her 2009 research linking chronic fatigue syndrome to a mouse retrovirus was discredited and retracted from Science, Mikovits was fired from her post as research director at Nevada’s Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease. (She was arrested in November 2011 for allegedly stealing her notebooks from the lab. The charges were ultimately dropped.) Recently, Mikovits has reframed her fall from grace as the medical establishment silencing her attempts to raise questions about vaccine safety, and has achieved some level of notoriety in fringe communities as a whistleblower of sorts."

There's more. Read it here:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/plandemic-judy-mikovits-plague-of-corruption-998224/

The vaxxed appear to be fooked. I fear for my wife who secretly got the Pfizer shots even after all of the warnings I gave, but it's ultimately her choice. I have permanently lost some respect for her especially when I tried to inform her...most didn't have people like us sounding the alarm early.

porkchopexpress says

I have permanently lost some respect for her especially when I tried to inform her...most didn't have people like us sounding the alarm early.

Don't be too hard on her. Women tend to be far more emotional than men, and fear is a very intoxicating emotion. Plus, anti EXPERIMENTAL vaxxers (i.e., conspiracy kooks) are in the minority, while those educated 'Doctors' in the white coats are all in favor and given lots of play by the corrupt mainstream media.

OK, my idea is that once the vaccinated population’s DNA is fully ‘transcribed’, we all get SPIKED by the Pod People through exchange of bodily fluids, saliva, sperm, mother’s milk, blood transfusion etc. etc.?
I want to move to a largely unvaxxed area using the county by county map on this page. Some counties are less than 20% ‘compliant’ which is very appealing to me regardless.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/these-states-have-the-lowest-covid-19-vaccination-rates

Robert Sproul says

OK, my idea is that once the vaccinated population’s DNA is fully ‘transcribed’, we all get SPIKED by the Pod People through exchange of bodily fluids, saliva, sperm, mother’s milk, blood transfusion etc. etc.?
I want to move to a largely unvaxxed area using the county by county map on this page. Some counties are less than 20% ‘compliant’ which is very appealing to me regardless.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/these-states-have-the-lowest-covid-19-vaccination-rates

Unless you plan to have (more) children I don't think you should worry about s protein shedding. It's pretty harmless outside of your blood stream, maybe yet another allergen, but there are millions of those. Still those areas have many other favorable qualities obviously;)

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/secret-epidemics-friday-september

💉 The Journal of Proteomics Clinical Applications quietly published a new Italian study back in April blandly titled, “Detection of recombinant Spike protein in the blood of individuals vaccinated against SARS‐CoV‐2: Possible molecular mechanisms.”

You’ll well remember, I’m sure, all the saccharine promises by federal government officials that the covid shots’ mRNA stayed at the injection site and fully degraded within a few days. It is worth noting that it wasn’t so much Pfizer and Moderna who were making those claims — both companies were super careful to avoid public representations — it was taxpayer-funded officials from captured public agencies like the CDC, FDA, and NIH.

An then all the medical establishment’s grant-groveling, white-coated sock-puppets echoed those same lies in a cascading crescendo of brown-nosing amplification. And then the fact-checkers and social media giants shut down any heterodox doctor asking any inconvenient questions.

The chickens were bound to get back to the roost at some point.

Instead of parroting the tired old “safe and effective” line, the new April study bravely and openly described its purpose as questioning about the wisdom of continued booster campaigns:

mRNA vaccines … may represent a new standard of vaccination. However, it is the duty of the scientist not to neglect controls. Herein lies the importance of monitoring vaccine-induced Spike protein “PP” after a time period after vaccination in human biological samples. The presented method allows to assess the half-life of the Spike “PP” protein molecule and to consider the risks or benefits in continuing further booster doses of the SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine.

The researchers dubbed vaccine-induced spike protein as “PP”, based on the unique genetic characteristics distinguishing the jab version of spike from all the other natural types from the various viral variants. They created a test allowing other researchers to detect jab spikes in people (as distinct from any of the ‘natural’ spikes).

But the study’s secondary discoveries turned out to be the real story. First, the researchers found that some vaccinees had persistent jab-spike in their bodies — long after the original jabs.

In some cases, we found the PP-Spike marker in vaccinated individuals more than 30 days after the vaccine, indicating that it is possible to detect vaccine “Spike” protein even sometime after vaccination and in any organic tissue.

When the researchers said “more than 30 days,” they meant up to six months — the duration of the study. So they actually failed to detect the “half-life” of the mRNA spike, since there was no way to determine the upper limit. They also found PP in “any organic tissue.” Meaning — putting the lie to government guarantees — the mRNA spike does not stay after all in the injection site. It spreads throughout the body.

Nor, also contrary to what was promised, did the PP degrade within a few days.

It was beyond the scope of the study to figure out why the jab spike was hanging around so long. But the researchers offered three hypothesis, and their first idea was a doozy:

It is possible that the mRNA may be integrated or re-transcribed in some cells.

Wait, what? Of all the government’s many failed assurances and broken promises, the one that the government officials and their white-coated army of obsequious jab pushers have most grimly clung to was the often-repeated promise that there was no possible way that the mRNA could modify someone’s genes and get into human DNA.

But, as the researcher’s very first theory to explain PP persistence illustrated, this study provides evidence rebutting the government’s most critical and most important promise of all: that the jabs are perfectly innocuous and cannot possibly create permanent genetic modifications.

That essential promise is starting to look a lot like what we tell kids about the Tooth Fairy.

Here’s the link to the study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/prca.202300048

https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/darwinian-system-with-covidian-jab

The project that gave rise to the Moderna company itself [Darwinian Chemical Systems] was a project where they were specifically figuring out how to get mRNA to write itself into the genome of the whatever target they were going after ... And the fact of the matter is: Moderna was started on the back of having proven that mRNA can be transfected and write itself into the human genome.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/covid-19-vaccine-shedding-experiences

In the previous article (which provides important context for the ideas laid forth in this one) I discussed the habitual tendency of science to reject observations which have no mechanism that could explain how they are happening. In turn, I argued this was problematic as it results in many critically important observations being dismissed since their “mechanism” lies outside the existing scientific paradigm.

One of the most common ways this happens is for logical arguments to be put together which assert the observation cannot be real. In some cases, the argument is quite compelling, while in others (provided you understand the subject) it’s actually ridiculous.

For example, since the mRNA vaccines were an experimental gene therapy, one of the immediate fears people had about them (myself included) was that they would permanently alter your DNA.

To address this, countless articles were written which ridiculed that notion. This was done by repeating a few logical arguments which sounded nice and were deemed to be “true” because the “experts” had espoused them (e.g. consider these frequently cited pronouncements by Paul Offit and Anthony Fauci). Those arguments were as follows:

1. The vaccines cannot enter the nucleus of the cell

2. mRNA from the vaccines breaks down rapidly in the cell, so it does not have time to enter the nucleus and change your DNA.

3. mRNA is not DNA, and hence believing mRNA can change DNA represents a fundamental lack of knowledge of biology.

On the surface, that train of logic effectively “refutes” the DNA alteration hypothesis. However, in reality, each of the above premises was false or highly misleading (e.g., the mRNA was designed to resist being broken down so it could remain active for a prolonged period).
Note: a more detailed explanation of why those premises were wrong can be found in my contribution to this article which discussed how mRNA spike protein vaccines alters DNA. Additionally, Robert Malone recently wrote a more detailed critique of Offit doubling down on a related claim (that DNA contaminants in the vaccines cannot affect our DNA). ...

I can’t say I was particularly surprised when independent research conducted long after the vaccine hit the market discovered the vaccine indeed can change the DNA of a cell. ...

https://www.aussie17.com/p/scientists-stunned-by-first-proofs

Scientists Stunned by First Proofs of Contaminated DNA getting absorbed into Human Cells

"These cells did not merely interact with the vaccines but absorbed them, incorporating foreign DNA into their very structure"

In an explosive revelation a few days ago during a video conference with Medical Doctors for Covid Ethics International, Prof. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, former Chair of Medical Microbiology at the University of Mainz and a distinguished figure in the field, unveiled findings that have sent shockwaves through the scientific community.

The first experiments indicates that experimental COVID mRNA jabs, may have been integrating into human cells—raising the specter of genetic modification on an unprecedented scale. ...

Prof Bhakdi's colleagues immersed human cells in vaccines, unveiling a startling truth: These cells did not merely interact with the vaccines but absorbed them, incorporating foreign DNA into their very structure. "Our two lady scientists...found that the human cells immediately took up the vaccines, and the DNA, and the chromosomes," Bhakdi said, outlining a process where cells began producing the spike protein in massive quantities. What was once theoretical fear has now been manifested into tangible evidence, showing the potential for these vaccines to alter human genetics fundamentally.

Goddamn them, and God save us. Don't get sick, because a blood transfusion of spike-contaminated blood is a death sentence.

stereotomy says

Goddamn them, and God save us. Don't get sick, because a blood transfusion of spike-contaminated blood is a death sentence.

You don't think that's a bit over dramatic?

GNL says

stereotomy says

Goddamn them, and God save us. Don't get sick, because a blood transfusion of spike-contaminated blood is a death sentence.

You don't think that's a bit over dramatic?

Time will tell.

GNL says

stereotomy says

Goddamn them, and God save us. Don't get sick, because a blood transfusion of spike-contaminated blood is a death sentence.

You don't think that's a bit over dramatic?

No because the Spike Protein is either a death sentence or a lifelong debilitating injury.

The_Deplorable says

GNL says

stereotomy says

Goddamn them, and God save us. Don't get sick, because a blood transfusion of spike-contaminated blood is a death sentence.

You don't think that's a bit over dramatic?

No because the Spike Protein is either a death sentence or a lifelong debilitating injury.

That sounds over dramatic also.

If it inserts itself into a tumor suppressor gene, cancer rates will increase.

GNL says

That sounds over dramatic also.

I still think most of the evidence converges on a vaxx death rate of about 1 in 800 of the ever-jabbed within the first year or two of the jab:

https://patrick.net/post/1378505/2023-02-09-more-evidence-that-the-toxxine-kills

And now many longer-term effects of the jab are showing up, like cancers, which is boosting the death rate to maybe 1 in 400 of the ever-jabbed (so far). It's still unclear how much more the death rate from the jab will rise. And then there are the effects on future generations. Maybe, say, the daughters of all the women who took it will be infertile. That happened with some other drug, and it took 20 or 30 years to find out.

It could be worse, but the vaxx is far, far over every established safety limit and should have never been allowed in humans at all. Injecting it into about 3/4 of all the people on earth was the worst crime against humanity ever.

I agree with it being the biggest crime in history, I just have a hard time going down the road of it being an extinction level event. Yes, time will tell but, how can people be so sure when the say its an ELE? There's no way to be so sure.

Long explanation of how the vaxx is created:

https://dig-deeply.com/2024/03/15/foreign-dna-in-the-mrna-vaccine/

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/falling-down-wednesday-march-27-2024

The short version is a research group treated some ovarian cancer cells with several different covid vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, etc). They separated out the cells that had been successfully “transfected” — meaning that the mRNA got into the cell as designed and started making spike protein. Then they let those transfected cells divide, to see what would happen in subsequent cell generations.

My first thought was geez, this test should have been done ages ago before the vaccines were ever approved for emergency use. How useless is the FDA? But I digress and ask silly questions.

Once researchers had their batches of divided cells, they sent the cells to Kevin McKernan’s lab in Boston, so that he could test for genetic integration or anything else interesting that he could find on an RNA/DNA level.

Kevin found evidence of integration. Specifically, he found some daughter cells had the DNA from contaminants in the vaccines, which is not supposed to happen. “What we found is, [contaminant] DNA that is getting transfected into ovarian cancer cell lines is replicating in the cells,” says McKernan, noting that the ratio of vaccine contaminant DNA to human cell DNA was even “higher than we expected.”

Jab defenders still argue it is “impossible” for mRNA or contaminant DNA to get into the cell nucleus. That would be called “integration,” and if it happens, then some real problems start. But pro-jabber “impossibility” arguments rest on a key flawed assumption. Jab defenders assume that the lipid nano-proteins delivering the mRNA (and the contaminant DNA) stay safely in the shoulder muscle, at the injection site. Their simplistic logic is that since muscle cells don’t divide in the first place, there’s no risk of cellular integration.

But of course, we have long known that the mRNA and its carrier lipid nano-proteins (LNPs) go everywhere. So the jab defender’s core assumption — that the LNPs stay in non-dividing muscle cells — is just factually wrong. It’s misinformation. ...

I think this is the most promising line of research going in terms of helping establish covid liability. If genetic integration is proven, it will bring the entire odious pharma crack house right down on their heads.

Patrick says

If genetic integration is proven, it will bring the entire odious pharma crack house right down on their heads.

If this has not been proven yet, how can anyone take a side in this debate? This is why I wait and see. Since I am not very smart AND I am not 100% sure I know of anyone harmed by the jab, I must wait and observe my circle. Are we still expecting a Deagle sized depop? Is so, and this has not been proven yet, based on what?

GNL says

Are we still expecting a Deagle sized depop?

No.

That website it BS. Much was made of it (and I fell for it), but it's just some lunatic or crazy man running the site. If you look at past predictions made by that site, it's just nonsense as well.

Do you mean https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/

I think that Jeff Childers, the guy who runs that site, is entirely sane and very smart. I don't know of any bad predictions by him.

The Branch Covidians are relying on the (now largely discredited) Central Dogma of genetics. Among its most dubious claims was that reverse transcription/integration of mRNA into DNA was impossible. The cultural inertia wrt what people have been told about the "science of genetics" acts like a stealth meme virus that allows the scam narrative surrounding the poke 'n croak to program the NPCs/sheeple.

GNL says

If this has not been proven yet,

It has been demonstrated in vitro.

Patrick says

Do you mean https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/

If you're asking me, I was talking about https://deagel.com/