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rando says

Loneliness and social isolation are both the inevitable results of diversity.

Countries with a single strong majority culture take care of their own people, exactly because they are their own people.

You nailed it. That's how it is in mexico.

rando says

Countries with a single strong majority culture

Or a common culture among many different nationalities as ours used to be.

rando says

Loneliness and social isolation are both the inevitable results of diversity.

Countries with a single strong majority culture take care of their own people, exactly because they are their own people.

Yea but Japan tho

Kinda blows your whole shit to fuck all, huh?

Japan has no diversity at all, yet ground zero for isolationists and the inevitable mass suicide that accompanies

You're going to be hearing much more on this. Obesity is a gigantic fucking problem, that someone has noticed that our collective electronic connectedness is leaving much to be desired, and the loneliness that ensues is even more of a problem. Lookout

There's some bad hombres out there, loners are dangerous

Being an asshole doesn't make for a lot of friends.

Don't forget the fuckers been radiated over and over from Hiroshima to Fukushima.
That has to have some impact...
as an aside, what's with all the 'shima's?

errc says

Japan has no diversity at all, yet ground zero for isolationists and the inevitable mass suicide that accompanies

rando says

Loneliness and social isolation are both the inevitable results of diversity.

I thought it was feminism.

Dan8267 says

I thought it was feminism

Probably pretty much the same effect.

Our current culture makes it easier than ever to avoid real meaningful social contact. Even phone calls have fallen out of popularity to the texting phenomenon. With our smart phones and social apps carried around wherever we go, we are more connected than ever across all sorts of distances, borders, and boundaries. And yet, face to face contact is fading as well. As people spend more time with their electronic social life, they spend much less with their in-person social life. Since every type of activity reinforces ones ability to perform that same activity, neglect of activity produces the inverse result. Social skills fade, leading to increased uncomfortable feelings about true social contact. People become more introverted as a result, exacerbating the condition.

In short: social ability is a skill. Use it or lose it.

errc says

You're going to be hearing much more on this. Obesity is a gigantic fucking problem,

https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate

errc says

Yea but Japan tho

Kinda blows your whole shit to fuck all, huh?

What?

Japan is an excellent example of an extremely successful society with nearly zero diversity.

They take care of each other pretty damn well, because they are all Japanese and feel a kinship and understanding from that common history and culture.

P N Dr Lo R says

rando says

Countries with a single strong majority culture

Or a common culture among many different nationalities as ours used to be.

Yes, the "melting pot" was all about taking foreigners and making them into Americans. That was very effective at reducing the harm of diversity on social cohesion.

But now the melting pot is out of favor, and the unity of the country suffers because of that.

Japan is an excellent example of an extremely successful society with nearly zero diversity.

They take care of each other pretty damn well, because they are all Japanese and feel a kinship and understanding from that common history and culture.

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Then why do they have such prolific suicide rates?

Suicide is the leading cause of death for young people!

If it's so great, why do so many opt to check out of it on their own?

errc says

Yea but Japan tho

What are you talking about? Japan has one of the highest life expectancies in the world.

Suicide in Japan is cultural. Interestingly, high life expectancy Nordic Countries also have very, very high suicide rates. Maybe it's the Communal Social Policies?

Nordic Economic Systems cause Suicide!!!

Any society which places much emphasis on the social contract will have both low crime and high suicide rates. Social pressure to conform and behave correctly also cuts into individuality rendering such people social pariahs. Humans are social creatures. We need each other to thrive. So pariah status leads swiftly to depression and depression often leads to suicide.

Quigley says

Any society which places much emphasis on the social contract will have both low crime and high suicide rates. Social pressure to conform and behave correctly also cuts into individuality rendering such people social pariahs. Humans are social creatures. We need each other to thrive. So pariah status leads swiftly to depression and depression often leads to suicide.

I'd be very curious to find out social contact rates in cities vs rural areas. I'd bet that despite the physical isolation of rural ares, that the actual isolation is more prevalent in urban areas.

Quigley says

Our current culture makes it easier than ever to avoid real meaningful social contact. Even phone calls have fallen out of popularity to the texting phenomenon. With our smart phones and social apps carried around wherever we go, we are more connected than ever across all sorts of distances, borders, and boundaries. And yet, face to face contact is fading as well.

Hey, didn't they say that when the telephone was invented?

rando says

Loneliness and social isolation are both the inevitable results of diversity.

They should get a dog.

errc says

Then why do they have such prolific suicide rates?

Suicide is the leading cause of death for young people!

You obviously don't get it. Just because Japanese don't marry and or have families any more, commit suicide a lot, and are on the cutting edge of 30 year old virginity and sex with dolls and robots doesn't mean that their homogeneous demographics aren't an incredible blessing leading them to be far more healthy socially than the whacked out Americans always bragging about their so called "melting pot" and diversity.

https://www.euphoricrecall.net/p/32-ideas-for-32-years?publication_id=323684&post_id=135485126&isFreemail=true

Americans without any friends have increased 400% since 1990. The issue is especially prevalent among men. As society continues to atomize, it will only get worse.




Loneliness is arguably the number one risk factor for premature mortality. An analysis of 300,000 people in 148 studies found that loneliness is associated with a 50% increase in mortality from any cause, making it comparable to smoking 15 cigarettes a day, and much more dangerous than obesity.

Patrick says

Countries with a single strong majority culture take care of their own people, exactly because they are their own people.

And the managers don't want a united and strong citizenry because this would be disadvantageous to them. Divide and rule is easier in a diverse society, its easier to manipulate elections. At the end, it all ties down with money and power.

gabbar says

And the managers don't want a united and strong citizenry because this would be disadvantageous to them. Divide and rule is easier in a diverse society, its easier to manipulate elections. At the end, it all ties down with money and power.

Goes all the way back to the 19th Century with the Managerial Class wanting huge numbers of mostly Irish immigrants over the majority will.

The ownership class has waxed poetic over Ricans, Irishmen, Italians, and Mexicans all in turn, whomever is coming to lower wages and raise rents in their slum holdings.

Patrick says

Americans without any friends have increased 400% since 1990. The issue is especially prevalent among men. As society continues to atomize, it will only get worse.

I have too many friends and I'm a social introvert, until I get to know you. Then I'm a blast, although an ass hole at times. I'm usually doing something with friends 3 times a week socially. Volleyball, so there's 5 friends that play and other show up. Pong, that group is 15 or so and we hang once a week. Then just random stuff like wandering down to the neighbors houses.

Kids are a big factor in this I think. If you don't have kids, it's hard to meet new people. Or harder. I don't want to be friends with work people, generally. I think that can be toxic. Too much "shop" talk about work. I think in that situation you might as well not have friends. I was out last night on the farm with my nephews friend having some beers and relaxing. They were doing too much shop talk in my opinion about their work, but I just listened.

I'm fortunate now I don't take work home. Nothing to worry about off the clock. So it's easy to hang out and not talk about work. Working a job that forces you to intermittent fast is rather amazing. And you're active. And you get solid pay and benefits. I lost 22lbs in one month. Hoping to get to 190lbs by Labor day.

Tangent aside, my wife and I are social more than I want at times. Big family on her end. I don't see it believable that 15% only have 10 or more friends. Especially as an introvert. Maybe I'm not?

Too much drama with womynx. The avg. modern American womynx is a basket case. Doesn't help lol

This study must have been difficult because fat fucks are also lonely; nobody wants to hang out with a fat bastard, let alone a fat chick.

I ruthlessly tease any girl I'm "dating" if she starts getting fat. They really don't need reminding but I do it anyway.

AmericanKulak says

Goes all the way back to the 19th Century with the Managerial Class wanting huge numbers of mostly Irish immigrants over the majority will.

I really can't complain about the Irish thing. Here I am, it worked out for my ancestors.

The proddies were right that the Irish would open lots of bars and Catholic churches.

But at least we came legally.

Patrick says

The proddies were right that the Irish would open lots of bars and Catholic churches.

And become cops. Also, would have been harder to build the transcontinental RR without those strong Mickie backs. And it was the Irish who did the bayou work no one would risk losing a slave over. At least they generally left that horrible beer and that rot gut whiskey back in Ireland. Love that Irish accent in women, and those green eyes, too.