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Maybe we should start a thread for 'ludicrous AI generated headlines'.

Ceffer says

Claims it has anti gravity capability.

Anti-gravity would break all our physics. It would mean Relativity is wrong or at very least, extremely flawed.

Relativity predicts time dilatation in a gravity well, and we know this happens with atomic clocks. You can actually measure the difference of a gravity field between two SHELVES in a lab with an atomic clock.

richwicks says

Anti-gravity would break all our physics. It would mean Relativity is wrong or at very least, extremely flawed.

Relativity predicts time dilatation in a gravity well, and we know this happens with atomic clocks. You can actually measure the difference of a gravity field between two SHELVES in a lab with an atomic clock.

No it doesn't. If mass is zero or near zero, look at what happens with the formula then.

So if an object can be rendered massless, then gravity and inertia would be nullified. Speed of light limitations will no longer apply.

Trollhole says

No it doesn't. If mass is zero or near zero, look at what happens with the formula then.

Not super educated on the formula. I did solve for Bohr's model of hydrogen through Schrodinger's equation, ONCE though.

Trollhole says

So if an object can be rendered massless, then gravity and inertia would be nullified. Speed of light limitations will no longer apply.

Even if an object has no mass, it's still constrained by the speed of light. Photons are massless.

Trollhole says

Anti-gravity would break all our physics. It would mean Relativity is wrong or at very least, extremely flawed.

And what exactly is wrong with that? It means that it is falsifiable. That's a good thing.

Many observes believe that an arcane advanced physics exists, for the secret few, to hold it back from the teeming masses (as usual) and we are given the archaic and stagnant physics of Einstein and Newton as if they are the final inquiries. The masses are supposed to gnaw on these forever as flawed bones, while the elites, as usual, keep the good stuff for their own utilitarian, secretive academians.

Ceffer says

And what exactly is wrong with that? It means that it is falsifiable. That's a good thing.

What I mean by that is that it's highly unlikely. The thing about physics is that it's self reliant. Take for example the OceanGate Titan submersible. You can calculate the energy of the implosion a few ways. Many people did it based on pressure, but another way to do it is how much water was displaced by the submersible, and how far that water had to fall down. You get the same energy release. You can calculate energy, mass, power, in multiple ways, and come up with the same solution.

It's internally consistent, and it's kind of remarkable in a way. That's how you know it's correct, there are no internal inconsistencies, but it does break between QM and Relativity. When you try to use relativity along with QM you end up with zeros and infinities. We definitely have an error somewhere, but they are entirely different domains of comprehension. We probably really end up with something NEAR zero and NEAR infinity with the equations, something is missing, but I doubt gravity is entirely different than what we thought.

But maybe?

It's like Newtonian mechanics, there's a bunch of stuff left out because it's NEAR zero for most cases. F=ma doesn't take into account relativistic effects, because they are so small, it's near zero. Newton didn't have the precision to measure it, and we didn't either, until recently.

If there's an error in how we understand gravity it will be entirely consistent with our known physics, it will just take into account some other thing, just like Newtonian mechanics. We do really weird stuff, we've had things near absolute zero, and it's very strange, but it's consistent with our math still, no new math came out of it. When helium is near absolute zero, it does odd things like drains out of an open container. It becomes a single molecule. We understand it.

Ceffer says

Many observes believe that an arcane advanced physics exists, for the secret few, to hold it back from the teeming masses (as usual) and we are given the archaic and stagnant physics of Einstein and Newton as if they are the final inquiries. The masses are supposed to gnaw on these forever as flawed bones, while the elites, as usual, keep the good stuff for their own utilitarian, secretive academians.

Nah.

I'm an engineer, I've seen stuff invented and created based on physics. I've seen stuff invented that FAILED in the marketplace because when it came out, something better than it already existed.

We wouldn't have gone through all this waste if it wasn't necessary. Why create a VCR when a computer and a SD Card could replace it?

There may be a 6th force, there is some unstable evidence for it. A being at the QM level would never recognize gravity existed. We may be the same. There might be a force that is only detectable across interstellar distances. Who knows?

If there was some "secret science", it would have been used 300 years ago. We'd have seen flying saucers then. We'd be living under the rule of what we think are gods now. If I had the technology of today and could go back to 1700, I'd easily be able to take over the world, and they'd be eager that I do it. If I was a sociopath, and I'm not, I'd keep the knowledge secret and create an godlike group to keep the knowledge secret. It would be trivial.

What do you think a 1700's KING would think of a computer, or even a television or a radio? A flush toilet, an electric stove, or an airplane? This would be magic to them. There's no "secret science". They claim that the military is ahead by 20 years, I rather doubt it. Military specification is just the least likely to fail part in bad conditions. The public gets the leftovers, which work plenty well.

Trollhole says

So if an object can be rendered massless

If an object is massless, it travels at the speed of light.

Ceffer says

It is fireball season, but I imagine quite a few represent the new space wars of strategic satellites being shot down.

I saw one of these myself:

https://patrick.net/post/1328018/2019-10-20-patrick-saw-a-green-fireball-last-night

Patrick says

Ceffer says

It is fireball season, but I imagine quite a few represent the new space wars of strategic satellites being shot down.

I saw one of these myself:

https://patrick.net/post/1328018/2019-10-20-patrick-saw-a-green-fireball-last-night

Just a falling star I think, a meteorite. That one just got low in the atmosphere before it disintegrated. It may have even made it out of the atmosphere, and back into space as well just grazing the planet.

Trollhole says

So if an object can be rendered massless,

dis integrated?

Onvacation says

Trollhole says

So if an object can be rendered massless,

dis integrated?

Yes.

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Patrick says

I saw one of these myself:

I saw one, too, a few years ago. Apparently it was an old satellite burning up on re-entry (or so they said). It looked close, but I guess it wasn't, they saw it all the way to Colorado.

To be perfectly fair, it should also include Oregon and Washington states.

Printing press diplomas have consequences.

I guess BIS and the IMF didn't give them permission. They did give permission to liquidate pesky survivors with some amped up 5G.

Ceffer says

Another ludicrous AI generated headline.

Look at the author's name...
EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!

It would be better if the story captioned Great Whites.

One would hope their ever more shrill, loud and undisguised psychosis is a symptom of their impending failure. The inner autist lunatic has unfolded itself to become the outer manifest lunatic.

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/51594

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/51603

CIA hasn't manufactured a masked body double for him, so guess he is on the way out to nestle in Satan's eternal embrace. Problem is, they have somebody in the wings even worse one would imagine. Did he get the vax with da real sheeyat in it, was he rubber hosed by CCP for non-compliance, has he been EMP'd to put him under? Only the Woo knows.

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/51611