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Polls, betting markets and election prediction thread


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2024 Sep 18, 3:19pm   138 views  13 comments

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The divergence has started between the partisan polls on each side and the neutral pollsters (if any).

Also the betting markets currently hold harris as favorite although the swing states stay hotly contested while Trump survives assassination attempt after attempt.

One would think they would move in the opposite direction which is a bit disturbing, but it may just be partisan hackery to add insult to injury.

Teamsters overwhelmingly voted in favor of Trump, do we have more liberal arts majors than working class to explain the polls?

Make your predictions here, or not ;)

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2   mell   2024 Sep 18, 3:50pm  

Hey we haven't seen you in a while. @Patrick needs to have a welcome back here. What's the point of this link? Yes, the betting markets are currently unanimous although some are aa close as 2 percentage points. Are you forecasting a harris victory?
3   AD   2024 Sep 18, 4:32pm  

RealClear Politics has one of the best tracking polls

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4   AD   2024 Sep 18, 4:39pm  

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Biden won by 4.6% of the popular vote so round that up to 5%, and examine the recent national polls for Harris which have her as much as winning the popular vote by 5%

Don't matter cause she might fare a lot better in New York and California than Biden to easily get her to that 5% margin. What matters is the voting in less liberal states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Michigan.

I guess the Del Boca Vista demographic has slowly died off in South Florida and that may explain why Florida is essentially not a left leaning in Presidential elections.

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5   mell   2024 Sep 18, 5:08pm  

AD says


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Biden won by 4.6% of the popular vote so round that up to 5%, and examine the recent national polls for Harris which have her as much as winning the popular vote by 5%

Don't matter cause she might fare a lot better in New York and California than Biden to easily get her to that 5% margin. What matters is the voting in less liberal states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Michigan.

I guess the Del Boca Vista demographic has slowly died off in South Florida and that may explain why Florida is essentially not a left leaning in Presidential elections.

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Agreed. Still the betting markets are betting on who becomes president (amongst other things), and I was surprised about the 5% lead following them being pretty much tied around the 2nd assassination attempt. Maybe many are betting on the dem cheat machine being well oiled or that the next attempt succeeds. Crazy times. Still it's pretty much a tie in the EC right now, probably slightly leaning Trump since PA will be fucked if harris wins
6   stereotomy   2024 Sep 18, 5:10pm  

^^^^^^
THIS!
7   HeadSet   2024 Sep 18, 6:23pm  

mell says

betting on the dem cheat machine being well oiled

Bingo!
8   AD   2024 Sep 18, 6:47pm  

mell says


Maybe many are betting on the dem cheat machine being well oiled or that the next attempt succeeds.


That is what I have been wondering a lot especially since the Arizona lawsuit by the Arizona GOP about the 40,000 voter registrations. The chickens have finally come home to roost in regards to Bill Clinton's Motor Voter Law.

I think also about Georgia and the voter integrity law passed a couple of years ago by Governor Kemp, and wonder how hard will the paid AntiFa and Act Blue operatives will work this election year compared to 2020.

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9   Ceffer   2024 Sep 18, 7:18pm  

Why would anybody bet on a rigged election with a captured MSM? You're basically betting on whether the fraud can overcome the popular vote or not. The percentages are bogus, when KamalaToe has trouble bribing audiences to attend her events.

Does the Deep State and the Euro Congeners win, or does Trump massively overwhelm their cheating apparatus?

I guess the old mantra holds that compulsive gamblers will gamble on anything.
10   AmericanKulak   2024 Sep 18, 8:05pm  

AD says


I guess the Del Boca Vista demographic has slowly died off in South Florida and that may explain why Florida is essentially not a left leaning in Presidential elections.

Secular/Reform Brooklyn Bolsheviks were replaced with Hassidim who vote 75% Republican. Seriously: North of Miami is full of Hassidics now, and most of them conceal carry. They have 3-4 kids apiece unlike the Secular Yentas.

Orlando however went the opposite way; Orange and Oscela used to be solid Red: Now it's chock full of MENA who vote solid Democrat. The State Rep in Orlando, Eskamani, is 5 kinds of Left Nut, her parents were Iranian Communists.
11   komputodo   2024 Sep 19, 8:23am  

AD says

I guess the Del Boca Vista demographic has slowly died off in South Florida

Isn't that where Seinfelds parents moved to?
12   Patrick   2024 Sep 19, 9:01am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/maximized-thursday-september-19-2024


In the most poll-defying story of the week, CNN ran an very encouraging article two days ago headlined, “Teamsters won’t endorse in presidential race after releasing internal polling showing most members support Trump.”



The International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) is one of the largest labor unions in the country. Originally established in 1903, it first represented teams of drivers who shipped goods on horse-drawn wagons; hence the name. The union gradually expanded to encompass a broad range of industries like freight, warehouse, construction, airlines, public services, and so on.

The Teamsters is one of America’s most powerful and politically active unions, known for its ability to organize large-scale strikes and negotiate for labor rights, higher wages, job security, and improved working conditions. Needless to say, since the New Deal era the Teamsters have historically aligned with Democrats.

On Monday, the IBT’s leaders created history by splitting the baby, announcing the union will not endorse either candidate this year. The reason for the historic non-endorsement is that most of its Democrat-leaning members (60%) supported Trump. Why not endorse Trump? The Teamsters are probably fearful of crossing easily-offended and revenge-minded Democrats.

If the Teamster’s own internal poll of reliably liberal, politically active membership breaks 60%/34% in Trump’s favor, what are we to make of corporate media’s polling showing the candidates neck-and-neck? Something isn’t adding up.

If the Teamsters supports Trump 60% to 34%, I’m thinking the corporate media polls are completely fake.
13   WookieMan   2024 Sep 19, 9:12am  

AD says

What matters is the voting in less liberal states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Michigan.

Trump wins them all. Election over. You can't cheat your way out of that hole. You forgot MN in there as well. That's my prediction. I eat it if I'm wrong. Half of those states are my part of the country that I've been to recently.

Trump is pro-Israel. But he's worked with Muslims. Got us out of their territory overseas. Biden/Harris have done nothing but send Israel a ton of money and a shitty dock to Gaza. You lost Dearborn, MI and Minneapolis with that. They vote as a community. 20-30k votes in one state is all it takes.

I don't care about polls. It's paid for by the parties. There are less R's than D's registered. So polling is oversampled. Harris is toast. Don't forget she's a "black" woman. She lost most of the male votes out of the gate. I don't think women can lead and I think most men think the same. They can be successful, but I'll never vote for a woman for POTUS. There's a lot like me in fly over country. Hence why she loses MN, WI, MI, and PA. Which is a Trump win.

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