patrick.net

Daily Show isn't very balanced, no one is. They are very liberally biased.

FortWayne says

Daily Show isn't very balanced, no one is. They are very liberally biased.

If by that you mean biased towards the truth, then yes. The routinely make fun of the Democrats. They ridiculed Obama, Weiner, Bloomberg, and others on the left.

As for liberalism, that's not a bias, it's an adherence to truth regardless of your political beliefs. You are confusing liberalism with leftism like most conservatives.

It's an entertainment show in the same vein as Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow and ought to be given comparable weight.

Dan8267 says

If by that you mean biased towards the truth, then yes. The routinely make fun of the Democrats. They ridiculed Obama, Weiner, Bloomberg, and others on the left.

As for liberalism, that's not a bias, it's an adherence to truth regardless of your political beliefs. You are confusing liberalism with leftism like most conservatives.

It's no secret there is liberal bias there. Sure they ridicule Democrats occasionally, but not nearly to the same degree as they do Republicans. If you are looking for a middle of the road comedian, Jay Leno is probably the closest to it. Daily Show is very Democrat biased. They won't even entertain idea of not agreeing with principles of liberalism.

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

If by that you mean biased towards the truth, then yes. The routinely make fun of the Democrats. They ridiculed Obama, Weiner, Bloomberg, and others on the left.

As for liberalism, that's not a bias, it's an adherence to truth regardless of your political beliefs. You are confusing liberalism with leftism like most conservatives.

It's no secret there is liberal bias there. Sure they ridicule Democrats occasionally, but not nearly to the same degree as they do Republicans. If you are looking for a middle of the road comedian, Jay Leno is probably the closest to it. Daily Show is very Democrat biased. They won't even entertain idea of not agreeing with principles of liberalism.

Jon Stewart is a comedian and the Republicans have been making his and Steven Colbert's jobs way too easy.

FortWayne says

Daily Show is very Democrat biased.

Have you even watched the clip? Try it. In fact, watch that whole episode and then point out how it's unfair or inaccurate.

Jon is just being a spinster to detract where blame, fault, inadequacies, and down right ineptitude of this administration and the fact that every hair brain scheme those knuckle heads take on. Only leads to pure disaster for this constituents and a big fucking boon to the deep pockets of his boys of the production team that brought us this shit sack to begin with.

Jon just skewers Obama a little bit, only because his credibility was shot eons ago, when he and Colbert became Obama's official comedy pundits to put everyone else in a lame light, while kissing Obama's ass no matter what he's done and making him seem Hip, Sincere, and Honest, though Obama has not exhibited one single iota of a gesture that would back those assumptions up as facts.

Jon Stewart and Colbert, lost 50% or more of his original audience, they see him as political patsy for the Liberal media and agenda. In other words they are preaching to the choir.

I guess what I am saying is... I don't need to tune into Jon Stewart to hear another Libtard blame the Republicans for all of Obama's failures, even if I get to see Obama in the dunk the clown tank for a brief two minutes while he prefaces and sets up his "Those fucking Republicans again" rant.

+1.
when you have a 100:1 ratio of conservative attacks vs liberal attacks, it is biased.

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

If by that you mean biased towards the truth, then yes. The routinely make fun of the Democrats. They ridiculed Obama, Weiner, Bloomberg, and others on the left.

As for liberalism, that's not a bias, it's an adherence to truth regardless of your political beliefs. You are confusing liberalism with leftism like most conservatives.

It's no secret there is liberal bias there. Sure they ridicule Democrats occasionally, but not nearly to the same degree as they do Republicans.

Thanks for finally coming to whatever sense you possess...

egads101 says

FortWayne says

It's no secret there is liberal bias there. Sure they ridicule Democrats occasionally, but not nearly to the same degree as they do Republicans.

it is true, they ridicule republicans more than democrats.

SoftShell says

when you have a 100:1 ratio of conservative attacks vs liberal attacks, it is biased.

Actually, no that's exactly not the way to measure bias. A neutral presentation of history does not give equal credence to both sides of an issue, rather it gives fair and defensible criticism of each side.

For example, by your definition, any portray of history that does not blame the Jews as much as the Nazis for the holocaust would be "biased". Any coverage of WWII that shows pictures of the mass graves and concentration camps would be "biased" and anti-Nazi propaganda. Well, it's absolutely impossible to accurately cover WWII in a way that doesn't make the Nazis look bad, because they were.

Another example. A non-bias presentation of astronomy vs. astrology isn't going to show an equally valid case for astrology simply because there is none.

It's not bias to acknowledge the reality that one side is worse or less credible than the other. And that is why conservatives are wrong when they say there is a liberal bias in news coverage like The Daily Show and NPR. There is a truth bias, and that's the way it should be.

Jon Stewart is the only trusted source in news today.

Sadly, he's not even a newsman. That's saying a lot.

CNN/Fox are both full of shit and cater to lowest common denominator.

All politicians are shitheads and BBC is where I get my news.

Dan8267 says

Well, it's absolutely impossible to accurately cover WWII in a way that doesn't make the Nazis look bad, because they were.

Ironic . . . the Nazis brought national healthcare to most of Western Europe. The death camps were only byproducts: what you, think the government bureaucrats wouldn't come up with their own warped standards on who gets the care and who gets to render the care after they get to run the healthcare system without any monetary constraints that enforces a modicum of level playing field?

Wouldn't it be weird if one side - say, for the sake of argument, the Republicans - were truly more ridiculous at present? So that a reasonable news/entertainment outlet would ridicule them more?

Nah, too silly to contemplate. Both sides are always equally bad, and equally to blame.

Everybody knows that!

I've seen it a few times. It is funny sometimes. But politically, he spends 99% of the time bashing Republicans, and 1% of the time making small puns at Democrats.

Sometimes it's deserved, most of the time facts are misrepresented to make for bigger Republican bashing. I really can't stand this type of comedy.

Reality says

Ironic . . . the Nazis brought national healthcare to most of Western Europe. The death camps were only byproducts

Wow that's amazing! Nationalize healthcare system inevitably lead to concentration camps and genocide. You should get a Nobel Prize for that insight!

In retrospect it's so obvious. If we don't have selfish corporations trying to assfuck us out of healthcare we've paid them for, then it's only obvious we're going to kill all the Jews. I mean, who doesn't see that connection?

egads101 says

Post EVEN ONE fact that wasn't true from a recent episode. You can't do it.

That's because I don't watch it. When I did, it was always disappointing.

I'm too conservative to pay for cable television. Thus, I can't watch it.
Oh well!

FortWayne says

Daily Show isn't very balanced, no one is. They are very liberally biased.

Yes, so it would seem. But could it be because truth and reality have a liberal bias ?

FortWayne says

Sometimes it's deserved, most of the time facts are misrepresented to make for bigger Republican bashing. I really can't stand this type of comedy.

OF course you don't. Because the people who represent your point of view in the U.S. government are total douche bags that are constantly making fools of themselves. It's sort of like what you do here.

The real reason that conservative hate The Daily Show and The Colbert Report is because conservatives know that Fox lies and that these two shows expose the outrageousness of the lies in a way that cannot be denied. Conservatives can't think of any way to defend the vile behavior these two shows reveal Fox News and the conservative media performing.

Of course, conservatives know that everything that comes from Fox News is an outright lie. Even the most inbred, banjo-playing redneck knows that. The thing is they don't care. They like the lies. So they all agree to keep repeating the lies, no matter how ridiculous, as a strategy to prevent policy making from being based on the truth.

But The Daily Show and The Colbert Report makes it impossible to pretend that the lies are true. The writers of those shows are just too damn good at using video to show the lies and hypocrisies for exactly what they are. This infuriates conservatives who want to keep the lies.

So they lie some more and dismiss these shows -- and more importantly, all the irrefutable evidence shown on those shows -- as liberal bias. After all, contradicting statements from the same guy at Fox News must be the result of liberal bias even though it's entirely a Fox broadcast.

Conservatism has been redefined by the actions of conservatives as the willful acceptance of what one knows is a lie and the disregard of all evidence that contradicts that lie for the purpose of advancing a political agenda that could not be advanced if the truth were publicly acknowledged.

How do you people find time to watch all this tv? What awesome things in this life are you passing up on, in order to watch some jack ass like colbert spout his pro corpora-fascist nonsense?

Sleep?
Sex?
Cooking?
Reading?
Social interaction?
Philanthropy?

The economics of watching tv state as law, that one must trade off something better, in order to find the time to watch the colbert report. So, what are you missing out on?

egads101 says

Or shut down the government for no fucking reason, and then just did what they
should have done earlier after costing the economy about 24 billion dollars.

Right - "no fucking reason"? I thought Republicans were trying to save millions of Americans the burden of having their insurance cancelled and premiums skyrocketing with the Obamacare debacle?

"No fucking reason" indeed.

How much do you want to bet that Obama and the Democrats will be proposing to postpone the individual mandate and let folks keep their existing individual plans before the year is out?

So tell us who shut down the government again?

@topic - it is touching that Stewart and the rest of the MSM have finally woken up and started reporting and criticizing the Obamacare debacle. It is kind of hard to sweep under the rug with such a monumental and historic fail of the website, millions of Americans are getting massive premium increases in the mail or their insurance cancelled.

It would have been nice if these hacks found their integrity a few years earlier so Americans would be better informed before re-electing Obama last year.

It's not like the Republicans haven't predicted that Obamacare would be a total debacle for the last 4 years.

But...but....but contraception! Gay Marriage! Abortion on demand! 47%. Republicans can't be listened too cause they are "bat shit crazy" on these "extremely important" issues. It's easier for Stewart to make funny faces at a random back bencher Republican living in the sticks than dealing with issues that affect the majority of the population.

Call me crazy, but I think it is bat shit crazy for Obama and the Democrats to spend the last 5 years of the "Great Recession" larding on another expensive welfare entitlement (Obamacare) and wasting time on frilly social issues for short term political gain.

egads101 says

Did they succeed in that endeavor? NO! Was it predictable that they would fail
utterly? YES, COMPLETELY.

Who you talking about again? Obama and the Democrats shutting down the government because they refused to negotiate and reform the Obamacare debacle?

Yet here we are just a few weeks later and Democrats are now proposing some of the EXACT same things Republicans wanted to shield the American people from the pain of the ill-thought Obamacare legislation.

Are you so in the tank to believe that people a year from now are going to care more about DC being shut down for a few weeks as opposed to the average premium increase of 40%? Let alone millions losing their plans and not being able to use the broken website to shop for alternatives?

Talk about "utter failure"! Obamacare is going to discredit big government liberalism for a generation. It is going to be hard to change the first impression of the Obamacare failure for the Comedy Central watching dopes who already vote big D.

Republicans are going to have a field day making political ads for 2014/16 saying that Democrats were so intractible that they shut down the government instead of compromising with Republicans and fixing the obvious problems of Obamacare.

The Daily show is obviously biased. But I give Jon Stewart props for debating w/ Bill O'Reilly. Jon's a funny guy, but more entertainer than a conduit for news. Is O'Reilly biased? He sure is. But at least these two had the stones to acknowledge each other, and have a civil debate. And that I can respect.

FortWayne says

Daily Show isn't very balanced, no one is. They are very liberally biased.

Everyone on to the left of Attilla the Hun, Ghengas Khan, and Adolf Hitler is too liberally biased for you.

Both sides are equally full of shit. At least repugs openly admit they do it to suck their corporate masters cocks and spread their religious intolerance (can someone come up with a reasonable explanation why christian religious intolerance is a good thing and all other religious intolerance is a bad thing?). The dumbcrats actually believe the delusion they are improving the world by bankrupting the country.

sbh says

Meanwhile the Republicans will continue to say very little that is "meant to
be factual" because the truth is too important to be so tethered to reality as
to reflect it.

Examples?

Seems to me, it is the Republicans (specifically the Tea Party) that are telling the American people the hard and uncomfortable truths. Hence the reason why they are so roundly attacked by the establishment in both parties in DC.

Obamacare would never have passed (even with the Democrat majorities in Congress) if Obama and the Democrats told the truth and didn't lie their asses off saying that we could expand the safety net, keep or plans, doctors AND reduce our premiums.

Ditto for the Democrats who think we can maintain our entitlement Ponzi schemes simply by raising taxes.

Ditto for the Democrats running bankrupt cities who think they can dig out from bankruptcy without reforming public sector union pensions. Just raise taxes, reduce services, stop paving roads and watch the cities burn to the ground.

What truths are more important than these?

bob2356 says

and spread their religious intolerance (can someone come up with a reasonable
explanation why christian religious intolerance is a good thing and all other
religious intolerance is a bad thing?).

For real? Thought libs were supposed to be big in nuance and not black/white thinking?

I think abortion and gay marriage are the 2 biggest social issues for religous people on the right. Is it really intolerant to want to reform our abortion on demand laws to be more in line with "civilized" Europe and limit 3rd trimester abortions unless extreme medical conditions?

Oh the "intolerance"!

Muslim fundies kill gay people, Christian fundies just want to keep marriage about procreation between a man and woman and allow for civil unions.

Just amazes me how the girls get the vapors thinking America is somehow under threat of becoming the Taliban. Seriously, what planet do you people live on? American culture is less religous today that at any time in our history.

With the exception of the American people becoming more pro-life as we shed our cave-man ignorance of fetal biology - can you name one social issue that you think is under threat?

Talk about paranoia.

FortWayne says

It's no secret there is liberal bias there. Sure they ridicule Democrats occasionally, but not nearly to the same degree as they do Republicans. If you are looking for a middle of the road comedian, Jay Leno is probably the closest to it. Daily Show is very Democrat biased. They won't even entertain idea of not agreeing with principles of liberalism.

Liberal bias is often mistaken for intelligent content. Given that most conservative media is made to be intentionally ignorant, its not uncommon for those whom consume conservative media to be suspicious of any programming that is made above the 6th grade comprehension level.

socal2 says

Examples?

Seems to me, it is the Republicans (specifically the Tea Party) that are telling the American people the hard and uncomfortable truths. Hence the reason why they are so roundly attacked by the establishment in both parties in DC.

The Tea Party is a astroturf cover and not a real political entity. They also just about singlehandedly discredited the entire GOP. As such any claims that they "tell the truth" is null and void.

edvard2 says

They also just about singlehandedly discredited the entire GOP.

Just bizarro world stuff you can say this stuff.

The Tea Party were responsible for one of the biggest Republican electorial sweeps in the Republican party's history in 2010 winning them back the House and giving them the majority of State governerships and legislatures.

The Tea Party wing are responsible for actually getting some real spending cuts with the "sequester" where Obama is even now lamely trying to take credit for reducing the deficit.

Say what you want about them and their percieved popularity with the Comedy Central dopes, but the Tea Party have been successful in changing the national discussion to limiting the size and scope of government instead of growing it.

Then again - the spectacular crash and burn of Obamacare is doing more to discredit big government liberalism than the Tea Party could ever dream of doing by themselves.

sbh says

But Liberal politicians believe the lies they tell us.

Correction: leftist, not liberal.

We liberals pride ourselves of being orthogonal to the left-right American political line.

Most true liberals are rationalists, and all rationalists adhere to the truth, not what they want to be the truth. That's part of what it means to be rational.

socal2 says

Muslim fundies kill gay people, Christian fundies just want to keep marriage about procreation between a man and woman and allow for civil unions.

Christian fundamentalist have hung and burned at the stack many a gay man, atheist, or black. Please challenge me on this so I can start posting lots of pictures of these atrocities.

The only reason that today American Christians aren't lynching blacks and burning witches is that god-fearless atheists and damnable secularists don't let them get away it. But we had to fight tooth and nail for 400 years to make that happen, and we're still not done!

sbh says

But Liberal politicians believe the lies they tell us.

They don't believe it. They are just very good at selling BS to the people.

FortWayne says

sbh says

But Liberal politicians believe the lies they tell us.

They don't believe it. They are just very good at selling BS to the people.

Name one liberal lie.

Of course, you won't be able to. You'll state a lie from a Democrat, but Democrat and liberal aren't the same thing. You might state a leftist lie like, "a man can rape a women with his eyes", but you won't be able to find a single liberal lie. There aren't any.

And if you're still confused about the difference between liberals, Democrats, leftists, socialists, communists, and progressives, just read any of the many posts in which I clarified what these things are and how none of them are the same thing.

You want an example of a liberal lie? The statement, "A society where people run around nude is one that is less likely to be attacked by an outside forces; therefore, we should remove all anti-nudity laws.". That statement would be a liberal lie if anyone in all of human history actually made it.

Another example? The statement, "The freedom to clone oneself for the purpose of reproduction would end rape.", would be a liberal lie if anyone were to actually make that statement.

As I've said, no liberal lie has ever been told in the entire god-damn history of the human race. The left lies. The right lies. Democrats lie. Republicans lie. Socialists lie. Communists lie. But nobody lies about liberal principles because there is no reason to. Liberalism is so easily defensible that no lies are needed.

But hey, prove me wrong. Show me one common liberal lie. Something that more than one random crazy person you just paid has said. Some liberal -- not socialist, not leftist -- lie told by The Daily Show, MSNBC, Elizabeth Warren, or any liberal.

I've given you two examples of what would constitute liberal lies if any liberal actually said them. Now give me at least one damn example of an actual liberal lie.

And then there was silence.

http://www.DNGzaeLJrNU

Dan8267 says

Christian fundamentalist have hung and burned at the stack many a gay man,
atheist, or black. Please challenge me on this so I can start posting lots of
pictures of these atrocities.

Ha! You think you have a point comparing Muslims today to Christians hundreds of years ago in treatment of gays?

Why do you hold Muslims to such a low standard Dan? Do you think they are biologically inferior or something? Talk about racism!

BTW - I was talking about gay "intolerance". Don't think America's deplorable slavery days are exclusive to Christians. In fact, the aboliltionist movement was a Christian movement. Where were the atheists Dan in trying to end slavery? Probably big fans of Eugenics and making scientific excuses for slavery.

And I will take the Pepsi challenge in comparing Atheist persecution of Christians, Jews and Muslims in the last 100 years to Aethist victims of Christianity. FFS - the Godless Commies alone managed to kill more people in half a century than virtually all religious wars combined!

Do you need me to post pictures too?

Dan8267 says

Name one liberal lie.

- Public sector unions are great for government!
- Our entitlement Ponzi Schemes are mathematically sustainable.
- 16 week fetuses are no different than a tumor or hang-nail.

Are these Liberal lies, or just Democrat, Progressive or Socialist lies Dan?

socal2 says

Why do you hold Muslims to such a low standard Dan? Do you think they are biologically inferior or something? Talk about racism!

Your Straw Man arguments are transparent and childish.

socal2 says

Ha! You think you have a point comparing Muslims today to Christians hundreds of years ago in treatment of gays?

As I said, the only difference between Christianity in the West and Islam in the Middle East, is that in the West we atheists and secularists have carried our countries kicking and screaming into the 21st century, limiting the power of the religious.

If it weren't for our monumental efforts, then yes, the West would be as backwards as the Middle East just like it was before the Age of Enlightenment.

socal2 says

Don't think America's deplorable slavery days are exclusive to Christians.

Atheists and Jews weren't promoting slavery in America. Christian ministers routinely quoted both the Old and the New Testaments as evidence of the righteousness of slavery.

I know you want to white-wash that part of Christian history, but the historical records and quotes are too blatant to be paved over with lies.

socal2 says

Where were the atheists Dan in trying to end slavery? Probably big fans of Eugenics and making scientific excuses for slavery.

Wrong. Prior to the 20th century, any atheist would stay quite about his disbelief least he be arrested for it. Even during the first half of the 20th century, atheists could be arrested as communist, or at least shunned by society, prevented from working, prevented from voting should they make their beliefs known.

This is just like the gay community, which is why you see no big civil rights movement on any issue advocated by gays before the late 20th century.

I know you want to someone show that atheism causes people to do bad things and become evil, but history shows the exact opposite. They are far less likely to end up in jail or commit violent crimes.

socal2 says

And I will take the Pepsi challenge in comparing Atheist persecution of Christians, Jews and Muslims

Nonexistent. See Tom Selleck and Charlie Chaplin are the most dangerous despots ever.

And don't make me post more topless pictures of Selleck, because I will!

Excellent billboard. Demonstrates exactly why morality should not be based on Bronzed-Age ethics.