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You would have to go back to Caligula to find a worse leader.

maybe you just don't like black people, and there is literally nothing he could have done that would please you.

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:21am

He would have won my heart and ushered a heart felt apology had he read the Affordable Healthcare Act and threw it back at them, did a State of the Union address every week informing America who in Congress on both sides of the isle are trying to make his Socialized healthcare system a fascist forced pay system without price caps in place or consumer protection. But then again that was his plan all along.
I was the only motherfucker in America even listening to what he fucking said during the Primaries and Debates in 2008. And in spite of all of the ribbing I've received from Patnet since early 2007 about Obama's intentions. Have been spot on!

We don't have a single payer, healthcare system and we don't have affordable healthcare.

I don't like black people you gotta lotta nerve.

Last week my friend was over here helping me do some work on my house. He volunteered and refused payment. I owe him a week end of home upkeep now.
We went to Home Depot and on the way in this Black Security guard emboldened by the rash of BLM protests, stops Tim, and says "Can I ask you a question?" he said "Yeah..."
She pointed at me, and said "Are you with him?".
We both just looked at her like she was a mental case, because she was and Obama voter after all. Now had a white security guard did the same to me and pointed at him it would have been very very very very BAD.
Patrick you might not believe this but not all Blacks are victims. I can guarantee that I wish more for all blacks in America that 90% of the Liberals do.
I would like to see them all business owners, home owners, and educated in a "Good School District" or at least in a school system that is uniform across the board and doesn't look down their noses at Schools in neighborhoods less fortunate than them. I would like to see all black people self confident that if they work hard in America they can do anything they set their minds to and there is no obstacles but their own insecurities. Which the Liberals go out of their way constantly to stoke any diminishing spark of insecurity. I want more for blacks than their red lined neighborhood and social safety nets.
Especially when you consider faith based organizations were thousands percent more efficient at administering than the convoluted mess that has been made of it and the huge money maker the black plight has turned into. But that gravy train would end if Blacks were more financially and socially stable. The whole Liberal cottage industry would collapse.

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resistance @ 2015 Sep 12, 11:00am

Just sayin that the ridiculous levels of hate for Obama are clearly not connected to his actual performance. The world did not end on his watch. It's something else, probably the continued erosion in the power and status of white people (of which a black president is a clear symbol) and the continuous shaming tactics used by the PC-police to get white people to shut up about their legitimate concerns.

Obamacare, while flawed because it does not really address the no-we-won't-ever-tell-you-the-price-in-advance nature of health care in the US, is actually a big improvement over what we had, mostly because the pre-existing condition exclusion is gone, and because it ended lifetime limits on coverage. Before Obamacare you could easily be bankrupted by any major illness, and now you have some protection from that -- and the cost of political cooperation from the insurance industry was the mandate that everyone have coverage.

And how come no one gives Obama credit for finding and whacking Osama when Bush could not?

So pretty sure the "worst president" and "Caligula" crap are a great example of people not able to say what they really mean.

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FuckTheMainstreamMedia @ 2015 Sep 12, 11:24am

Just sayin that the ridiculous levels of hate for Obama are clearly not connected to his actual performance. The world did not end on his watch. It's something else, probably the continued erosion in the power and status of white people (of which a black president is a clear symbol) and the continuous shaming tactics used by the PC-police to get white people to shut up about their legitimate concerns.

He set in place the stepping stones for Israel to be annihilated.

Obamacare, while flawed because it does not really address the no-we-won't-ever-tell-you-the-price-in-advance nature of health care in the US, is actually a big improvement over what we had, mostly because the pre-existing condition exclusion is gone, and because it ended lifetime limits on coverage. Before Obamacare you could easily be bankrupted by any major illness, and now you have some protection from that -- and the cost of political cooperation from the insurance industry was the mandate that everyone have coverage.

I've posted before that poor people already had open and free access to healthcare using my wife as an example. Single mom making $25-30K per year...and yes in Los Angeles that is poor....enough so that she paid no federal taxes and got the Earned Income Credit each year. She had access to health care at a number of clinics in LA for free or low cost and that included preventive care and treatment for a wide range of items. Many of these clinics could no longer accept her once she had coverage under Obamacare and surprise...she couldnt afford the deductibles. The people you are talking about with the preexiting conditions and the ability to be bankrupted....you are talklng a really narrow group of people who could afford the several thousand a year Obamacare costs in premiums and deductibles, but did not otherwise have health coverage or would get dropped from their coverage.

And how come no one gives Obama credit for finding and whacking Osama when Bush could not?

You watch Zero Dark Thirty? Paneta was the hero, not Obama. Obama did everything he could to stymie the operation and pretty clearly has no fundamental grasp o our military, our intelligence, nor any of our foreign policy objectives. I'm being generous by not accusing him of doing all this intentionally. Paneta is a team player type and Bill O' Reily had a heck of a time getting Panneta to takke credit for the positive things he had done

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HydroCabron @ 2015 Sep 12, 11:26am

clearly not connected to his actual performance. The world did not end on his watch. It's something else, probably the continued erosion in the power and status of white people

Also plain-old team loyalty.

After 8 years of peace and prosperity under Clinton, AM radio and all the office "libertarians" were positively livid with rage at his wholesale destruction of America, raping of liberty, and seizure of all our guns. You couldn't go near the water cooler without hearing the same clowns spew venom every day.

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MAGA @ 2015 Sep 12, 11:28am

Oooo. That is racist. :-/

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 12, 1:08pm

Before Obamacare you could easily be bankrupted by any major illness, and now you have some protection from that -- and the cost of political cooperation from the insurance industry was the mandate that everyone have coverage.

Well you don't have any protection if you don't have unaffordable healthcare, and you didn't qualify for the freebie job.
Look Millions of Americans even with subsidized insurance, have dropped their coverage because they are having to chose between eating and having a place to live.
You want more? OK I'll give you more, Obama has avoided giving any State of the Union to the US, because those are typical addresses of a concerned President to his concerned constituents informing them of policy he and his administration may either be working on in their best interest or against your best interest. But either way, that weekly SOTU was more reliable news source than Colbert or Stewart.
This guy doesn't give a crank, at first he went around the country glad handing his voter base with more division and mockery of the guy before him and his supporters. When his monologue bullshit sessions got tired, he quit making public appearances asking his minions to pull his finger.
He bull shitted everyone early about Shovel ready jobs and projects, then bussed Mexican immigrant labor in from Mexico to do those projects. Even here in south Florida many new condos are being built with migrant workers. This guy hasn't done one genuine thing since he's been in office every thing he does is a red herring. He promises amnesty, then makes a law that only a select few qualify but everyone else even those in their families do not. All of his causes he champions are for one class of people designed to make another class feel disenfranchised. That is his only genius. Your attacking me on Race is vivid proof of that. You're suggesting that he is so inferior that he can't be a piece of shit politician with his own set of negative attributes to be disliked without race trumping them all? What makes him different that someone like Bush with the level and degree he can be despised without invoking race, unless I was using racial epitaphs toward him, which I don't and I'm not.
I despise him no less than anyone despises Bush, you don't call people racist for disliking Bush.

I'm riling against establishment candidates and always have. Obama has been the biggest one in Centuries. This guy is as nefarious as a Gypsy yard service.

He even chose his AG's accordingly.

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Strategist @ 2015 Sep 12, 1:18pm

....as Jimmy Carter breathes a sigh of relief...

The worst President ever was Jimmy Carter. What is he remembered the most for?
The worst economy since the Great Depression.
Turning a prosperous Iran into a radical Islamic disaster.

19 mmmarvel @ 2015 Sep 12, 2:12pm

You would have to go back to Caligula to find a worse leader.

You're being unfair to Caligula - after all, he was born that way.

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 12, 2:46pm

And I didn't just pick Caligula and pull him out of my ass, no pun intended.

A lot of what has been happening under Obama is not much different than what Caligula did to Rome.
Sure most LIberal's had good intentions and perhaps we needed to move the people's rights ball a little closer to the inzone.
But what has happened has been a gross uninteligent over reach and an insult to humanity. The Gender nuteral of our children, criminalizing Christianity while promoting Muslim's or at least having a policy that obviously imply that was the case, and not conerned about the surface looks. It would seem to many on the worng side of Obama and it's more than half of the Nation Pat! It looks like some perverted shit going on,

a perversion of Demcracy,
a perversion of tradition
a perversion of decency
a perversion of family
a perversion of laws
a perversion of rights

It's one huge adultered mess, and this wasn't caused by someone else. It's been caused by a gross neglect of common sense and morals just to score a win in the History books. Regardless what unintended conciquences may lie ahead. And I don't care how Bush did it, he's another entirely topic of equally fault and blame. My passion for Trump is a contract of trust, I am for him until he sells him self out. In the event he does I certainly wont start defending him.

21 WttnlWttnl @ 2015 Sep 12, 4:05pm

Obama has been a fantastic president. Fantastic HUGE economic growth. No improprieties or scandals. He'll go down in history as one of the great ones.

22 WttnlWttnl @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:36pm

A lot of what has been happening under Obama is not much different than what Caligula did to Rome.

Sure most LIberal's had good intentions and perhaps we needed to move the people's rights ball a little closer to the inzone.

But what has happened has been a gross uninteligent over reach and an insult to humanity. The Gender nuteral of our children, criminalizing Christianity while promoting Muslim's or at least having a policy that obviously imply that was the case, and not conerned about the surface looks. It would seem to many on the worng side of Obama and it's more than half of the Nation Pat! It looks like some perverted shit going on,

a perversion of Demcracy,

a perversion of tradition

a perversion of decency

a perversion of family

a perversion of laws

a perversion of rights

What tradition? Define it.
What decency? Define it.
What "family"? Define it.
What laws? Which laws? Tell us.
What rights? Which rights? Tell us.

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 12, 4:11pm

He is I'm just still mad because Gore stole votes from Nader.

24 HEY YOU @ 2015 Sep 12, 4:32pm

Obama will lose the title in 2016 because Democrats or Republicans will elect the next worst president.

Mr. Happy says: "..Gore stole votes from Nader."
Doesn't matter,the Activist Conservative SCOTUS & Jeb Bush installed G.W.Bush as President without counting & verifying all Florida votes.

Thanks for 9/11! Homeland Security, Unfunded wars,destruction of the Constitution. They are still trying to destroy America.

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tatupu70 @ 2015 Sep 12, 5:29pm

He was a virtual nobody until his campaign and getting into the debates in 2008

And by nobody, you mean a Harvard Law Grad and US Senator.

Osama was long dead years before the SEALS raided the compound in Pakistan.

lol---OK bgamall. All the dozen or more confirmed Bin Laden audio recordings were forgeries?

26 bob2356 @ 2015 Sep 12, 6:55pm

My passion for Trump is a contract of trust, I am for him until he sells him self out. In the event he does I certainly wont start defending him.

Bullshit, you defended bush enough.

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tatupu70 @ 2015 Sep 12, 7:26pm

Yep, including all the pictures we saw of his dead body in the compound, his dead body on the helicopter, his dead body on the aircraft carrier and the video of his body being wrapped and dumped in the sea....

Oh wait, we didn't see any of those photos or videos...

Yes, and the fact that you didn't see pictures of a dead man means he must have died several years earlier.

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tatupu70 @ 2015 Sep 12, 7:42pm

Did we see pictures of Saddam, his two sons and Gaddafi when they were killed?

Saddam was captured, not killed by the US. Gaddafi wasn't killed by US forces. Hussein's sons weren't terrorist leaders that the US was trying to avoid making martyrs.

What good could come from releasing pictures of a dead Bin Laden? It could inflame the Middle East and potentially create more terrorists. Just to prove to idiots like you that Bin Laden was killed? I don't think Obama gives a crap what you believe---you would likely continue to deny it even if Obama sent the dead body to your house.

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Strategist @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:03pm

tatupu70 says

What good could come from releasing pictures of a dead Bin Laden? It could inflame the Middle East and potentially create more terrorists.

That is why they did not release any proof of Osama being killed.
Ironman, Osama could always show himself just to prove the US is full of it.

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Strategist @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:17pm

Strategist says

Ironman, Osama could always show himself just to prove the US is full of it.

That would be tough for him to do if he died years before the raid...

I can't disagree with your statement. However, if he died years earlier, they would have jumped to take credit at that time.

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komputodo @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:18pm

maybe you just don't like black people, and there is literally nothing he could have done that would please you.

really? from you? you're better than that...that's a clown move bro..

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Strategist @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:29pm

Obamacare, while flawed because it does not really address the no-we-won't-ever-tell-you-the-price-in-advance nature of health care in the US, is actually a big improvement over what we had, mostly because the pre-existing condition exclusion is gone, and because it ended lifetime limits on coverage. Before Obamacare you could easily be bankrupted by any major illness, and now you have some protection from that -- and the cost of political cooperation from the insurance industry was the mandate that everyone have coverage.

And how come no one gives Obama credit for finding and whacking Osama when Bush could not?

I believe what Obama will be remembered for the most is....
Healthcare, followed by....
Preventing a depression, and then catching Osama.
The slow and pathetic recovery is a major issue, but will soon be forgotten.

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Strategist @ 2015 Sep 12, 9:41pm

What tradition? Define it.

Traditions are like people. They are born, they change, and they die.

What decency? Define it.

Just an opinion.

What "family"? Define it.

Extremely subjective.

What rights? Which rights? Tell us.

Right to have slaves? Rape and murder? Those ancient Romans were pretty brutal.

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 13, 6:43am

HEY YOU says

Doesn't matter,the Activist Conservative SCOTUS & Jeb Bush installed G.W.Bush as President without counting & verifying all Florida votes.

bob2356 says

Bullshit, you defended bush enough.

When have I defended Bush? I have called Bullshit on Obama shifting blame on every single one of his failures onto Bush.
BULLSHIT! I'll say it again just in case my intent is misconstrued.

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 13, 6:45am

tatupu70 says

Gaddafi wasn't killed by US forces.

Wasn't he... wasn't he... wasn't he?

Just how do you think a country full of peasants gets weapons to chase those crazy bald heads out of town?

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 13, 6:46am

What tradition? Define it.

What decency? Define it.

What "family"? Define it.

What laws? Which laws? Tell us.

What rights? Which rights? Tell us.

It's an American thing, something that a PAC money plant could never understand.

Say hello to Hussein media for me.

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CL @ 2015 Sep 13, 6:51am

Thanks, righties, for all the susplaining!

It's all just racist though, like Patrick posited. The vitriole reserved for a man clearly more intelligent, gifted and successful as President than his predecessor is so discordant that it makes the detractors sound more stupider than a stupid guy.

Unless you count for racism, and to a lesser degree, hyper partisanship.

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Strategist @ 2015 Sep 13, 8:14am

Just how do you think a country full of peasants gets weapons to chase those crazy bald heads out of town?

Damn Russians!

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Tenpoundbass @ 2015 Sep 13, 10:47am

CL says

Unless you count for racism, and to a lesser degree, hyper partisanship.

If disliking Obama for what it is, is racist, then color me red. Though I do have to warn you guys your PC shaming powers are dimenishing by the minute.
And when the political pendulum swings back you fuckers brought everything headed your way on your selves.

It's going to be depressing to be a Liberal 2016 at least through 2030. There will be at least a 15 year Liberal drought, and it's one drought I'm looking forward to.

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tatupu70 @ 2015 Sep 13, 3:40pm