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Crime in the area known as Baldwin Hills, south of Los Angeles, was never so successfully eliminated as when they built the Baldwin Hills Plaza and hired so many young blacks who resided around the area.
There are numerous examples where opportunities to have jobs eliminate crime.
The idea of doing that is bad because black people have suffered an almost unique history of being murdered as if their lives LITERALLY do not matter.
No other group of people in our history have been devalued so horribly except tribal Americans and Chinese immigrants to some extent in the 1800’s who were somehow procured mainly to reduce costs of labor for building railroads by the oligarchy.
When America was young, black people were kidnapped internationally for profits, enslaved, and denied status as human beings.
Capitalism always fails when it’s allowed to exist unregulated, and when capitalism fails the scene is ripe for fascism to take hold.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia saysJazz, why are you ignoring that Communism has killed far moreIt’s irrelevant here and now.
Disapprove people who would say that others killed more, entitles one to kill no one
No, I’m not saying that.
I hate to spoil such gladness.
I would be interested to find a graph of crime by poor on people who are meeting their basic needs? --and then break that one down by the races.
The racial factor just might disappear.
porkchopexpress saysYou and your Left wing friends really need to read the book Extreme Ownership. There’s a fundamental chasm in human philosophy between the Left and the Right, and it all comes down to individual accountability. Until that chasm is eliminated, there will never be enough common ground to have a united society.Sorry Jazz, but the facts don’t support the Left wing narrative at all. In fact, it’s the opposite and you don’t hear the Right constantly whining about it.Notice other than declaring ring wing superiority there is nothing being said other than a stinking apology.
That fact alone betrays the abject bankruptcy of the claim.
if white on white was in there it would likely dwarf the other graphs.
Meanwhile, BlackLivesMatter thugs in Belgium.
WTF does Belgium have to do with any of what his happening in the US is beyond me.
Meanwhile, BlackLivesMatter thugs in Belgium.
WTF does Belgium have to do with any of what his happening in the US is beyond me.
@Patrick
I’m looking for the source of two stats that I recall reading from you to aid in my discussion with my liberal friends.
Can you help point me to the source:
1.) African Americans make up 13% of the USA but are responsible for 50% of the violent crime.
2.) Whites are 20x at higher risk of violent crime committed by blacks than the inverse.
Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.
As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.
Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.
In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.
What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.
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if white on white was in there it would likely dwarf the other graphs.
@Patrick
I’m looking for the source of two stats that I recall reading from you to aid in my discussion with my liberal friends.
Can you help point me to the source:
1.) African Americans make up 13% of the USA but are responsible for 50% of the violent crime.
2.) Whites are 20x at higher risk of violent crime committed by blacks than the inverse.
Take a break guys. You CA guys need to get the fuck out of dodge. Go to Idaho or something? I like Bear Lake. Sandpoint was nice too.
A brutal austerity has befallen America since Reagan's time with the lie of trickle down economics, the busting of unions, the revolutionary Powell memorandum all because of propagandizing libertarian themes, free market magic and removing all the common-sense policies that every other civilized country in the world practices.
The whole right wing revolution exists to make wages cheaper. It's now America can't do anything but assure the wealthy empires and wage terror and war on the world.
Life expectancy is now tied to wealth.
Murders per se are defined by how you count them for a desired narrative.
Your desire is evidently to establish one or more races as genetically inferior or murderous. So what about all those BROWN PEOPLE in Moldova, Ghana, Bangladesh, they fit your sick narrative.
There's something sick in encouraging structureless, fatherless "communities of color" through perverse benefits incentives, weak school discipline, and increasingly weak policing.
Fuck this entire insane racial supremacy/inferiority con job.
goofus saysNPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns
goofus saysI'm here for coherent arguments, not blathering about "supremacy."WGAF
goofus saysNPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns
FuckCCP89 saysjazz_music saysThis talk is insane and a waste of timegoofus saysNPC circuits have overloaded. Boop beep bloop.What childish fiction people revel in while the fucking world around them burns
Stop commiting arson then.
That's right - coherence is racist, math is racist, logic is racist.
FuckCCP89 saysBurning buildings were all over TV for the last two weeks.Fake news
FuckCCP89 saysBurning buildings were all over TV for the last two weeks.Fake news
We just had the worst 24 hours of murder in Chicago History in 60 Years
All victims and perps Black.
https://t.co/zJnCXDWvQQ?amp=1
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime?utm_campaign=chicago.suntimes&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Black Lives Don't Matter, unless it's one of the very rare Police Fatalities.
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Most of what is called "racism" is just a statistically justified fear of crime. It's not fair to the individual black person when others avoid him out of fear, but it's also not fair to tell everyone else that they must significantly increase their personal risk of crime to be "anti-racist".
Poverty may cause crime, but crime also causes poverty. Businesses flee and there are fewer jobs and services in high-crime areas. No one wants to lend to start a business where that business is likely to be bankrupted due to crime, or burned down in the inevitable next riot. Black families are also impoverished by lawyers and other costs of dealing with the legal system when junior decides it's a good idea to pull a gun and gets caught. People with the means to move away from crime-ridden areas do so as soon as they can.
Probably most black crime is committed by a minority of very bad people. If those people can be permanently locked up, that would help everyone.
To say #BlackLivesMatter without talking about the much higher rate of black crime above the crime rates of all other groups is to ignore the fundamental problem.
#BlackCrimeMatters too, and must be spoken about if anything is to ever improve.